[W126 Coupe] Ken, thanks for the photos of Las Vegas!!

[johnfolger at earthlink.net]

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read every day and have joined the NEW list also.
Many thanks to all that make this a great read during a busy day!!!
  
  

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes attached to the
      vents? (Dick Spellman)
   2. Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group (190girl)
   3. Re: [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes attached to the
      vents? (Dick Spellman)
   4. Re: Old folks (Bucks2 at aol.com)
   5. Re: Seat Lock Problem (L&D gardner)
   6. Re: Old folks (Steve Nervig)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:36:04 -0400
From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes
	attached to the vents?
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi Yousef,

That's the ETR valve for the AC.  It's perfectly normal to see 
condensate on that metal housing once the foam cover has been removed.

Place a piece of tight cell foam over it when dry and place a dab of 
silicone adhesive on its face to hold the foam in place.  Try and 
surround the whole valve as was originally done with the apparently 
missing piece of MB foam.

The foam will act as an insulator and you will no longer see condensate 
dripping from the valve.

-\Dick

On 9/7/2011 6:28 PM, Yousef wrote:

> Hey All

>

> Ive noticed that there is a lont of water condensed on the outside on of

the tube connected to the ac vent (driver side).. Is that normal..

>

> Also i have very limited knowledge when it comes AC.. CAn you guys tell me

what this part is called and what does it do (golden thing )

>

> Cbeeg

>

>

>

> PS its really hot&  humid where i live (UAE)

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:08:04 -0400
From: "190girl" <190girl at earthlink.net>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Subject:  The Old 560SEC.COM Group
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Dear SEC Coupes & Old School Members (Mostly Men but you Realize Who I Am in
Your Midst):

Guys.........drop the poison as I have always decreed.  Our passion
regarding the Classic Bruno Sacco Classic MBz Chassis Car Models years is
SUPREME.  We retain the ownership, drive train mechanics, marque madness, so
lets' lay behind any harsh criticism to those who further our Guardian Angel
dreams in any manner be it new website, meets, etc etc, Collect ourselves
and gather our strength what's left to shine and rock the world of what is
doable and affordable and leave our Legacy to a world of new followers with
our collections and knowledge to light a world of the future on fire with
our strong attachment to all manner of W126, 124, 107's.  
If we all could turn back the back the clock of time to ONLY know what a
1950's Gullwing was worth today in ANY condition we'd all be "rich" but
"rich" is a state of mind.  Each one of us  is RICH is owning a SEC in many
forms well cared for to leave our imprint into the future generation of gear
heads.   We might be getting old, but those youngsters have passion and
thirst, and we Old Schoolers can serve the future pipeline.  
I was Collector of 2011 featured in MBCA National Magazine in Jan Feb this
year.....ageless, mega Passion, OEM are my passions .  They selected me to
tell a story to younger collectors out there...........Don't Abandon Older
Cars.  They Bring JOY and so shall you.
I have been quiet on the List last 6 months but I am here for you.  I'd love
a 2012 meet and would host it...............but to share costs, I need TEN
cars (Couiples, Singles, etc)  
Anybody game?  

Cheers,

Legs
Star Cruiser




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:59:38 -0400
From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] [w126 coupe] condensation from the tubes
	attached to the vents?
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Yousef,

The metal fittings on the hose can be wrapped or encased in foam tube as 
well.  From the pictures, it appears your hose(s) to the ETR (Evaporator 
Temperature Regulator) Valve were replaced on your MB at some point.  
That stain on the metal casing face is where MB applied the adhesive for 
the foam block that covered the valve.  The foam is structurally firm 
and perhaps 1/4 inch (6mm) in thickness.  Anything that will prevent the 
cabin air from contacting the metal should prevent any future condensate.

-\Dick


On 9/7/2011 6:28 PM, Yousef wrote:

> Hey All

>

> Ive noticed that there is a lont of water condensed on the outside on of

the tube connected to the ac vent (driver side).. Is that normal..

>

> Also i have very limited knowledge when it comes AC.. CAn you guys tell me

what this part is called and what does it do (golden thing )

>

> Cbeeg

>

>

>

> PS its really hot&  humid where i live (UAE)

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

> The MB Coupes Website!

> W126 SEC Mailing List

> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:38:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bucks2 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk  
occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt. 
Good  memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm
in  
Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks again  
Mike Ramay for a great get together.
 
Ken Buck
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

Don't  have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's going 
on with  the gang.
Jay


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:25:42 +0800
From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock Problem
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi Folks

Thanks for the advise,I found the front plastic bolt covers very difficult 
to remove,I slid flat bladed tools underneath but they seem to be locked 
onto something unfortunate despite being very gentle I cracked one.There 
must be a technique for removal,I have checked the CD but cannot find any 
reference..If anyone has information on how to remove these without breakage

I would appreciate it.

 

                                                          Kind Regards Dan 
Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi Folks
Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend asked 
for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip 
joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in the 
passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the 
seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a 
miracle!!
After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the 
vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed the 
rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor 
bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and 
effect repair I would appreciate it.

 

                             Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro 
(220kw)
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:06:47 -0400
From: Dick Spellman <dick.spellman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Dan,

Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor
bolts from the front cabin.
Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin
floor.
Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the side of
the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical and
vacuum lines.
Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.
Installation is the reverse process.

The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses manage
seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)
and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if
equipped.

The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat
back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose from
the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired on a
bench.

Good luck,

Dick


On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:


>   Hi Folks

> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend asked

> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in 

> the

> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

> miracle!!

> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed 

> the

> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>

>

> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>

> The MB Coupes Website!

> W126 SEC Mailing List

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:27:47 -0700
From: Michael Ramay <mike.ramay at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Lock problem
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Prior to removing the seat from the car, check the lock itself in the seat
back - it's easier that moving that heavy, heavy seat. Move the seat forward
a bit, lean the seat back forward and take out the two chrome philip head
screws on the bottom of the the plastic panel that is the back of the seat.
With that panel off, you can see the seat lock and the vacuum line that
locks the seat. It's now easy to test the vacuum line with a Mity-Vac to see
if it's still connected. It took longer to type this than it should take to
do this!!
Mike

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Dick Spellman 
<dick.spellman at gmail.com>wrote:


> Dan,

>

> Below is from waning memory.  Please check the cd manual for specifics.

>

> Slide the seat rearward and remove the two trim caps and two 13mm floor

> bolts from the front cabin.

> Slide the seat forward and remove the two 13mm bolts from the rear cabin

> floor.

> Remove the seat belt rail trim cover and bolt in rear cabin from the side

> of the transmission.   Rock the seat upward and disconnect the electrical

> and vacuum lines.

> Now remove the seat to a bench and inspect for any frame damage.

> Installation is the reverse process.

>

> The vacuum lead manages the seat back lock.  The electric harnesses manage

> seat belt latch indicator (2-wire?), seat movement (6,8 or 10 pin block?)

> and electric heat (should be a relay box and harness under seat) if

> equipped.

>

> The motors internal to the seat for rail front to back movement and seat

> back elevation are run on thick black cables.  These can become loose from

> the motors leaving no action while the motors turn and can be repaired on 

> a

> bench.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Dick

>

>

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM, L&D gardner <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au> wrote:

>

>>   Hi Folks

>> Well! Just as I was enjoying my SEC ?bug free?for a change  a friend 

>> asked

>> for a ride from the bottom of his drive to the top,problem is he has hip

>> joint problems and was waiting for surgery, so as he is about to get in 

>> the

>> passenger side his hip gives way  and he comes crashing down into the

>> seat(he weighs 130kg)how the welds on the seat frame held together is a

>> miracle!!

>> After that the seat would not lock with the engine running,I suspect the

>> vacuum pipes/connectors have been damaged under the seat I have removed 

>> the

>> rail bolts but the seat would not lift up,I may have to remove the floor

>> bolts.If anyone has information on how to access the lock components and

>> effect repair I would appreciate it.

>>

>>

>> Kind Regards Dan Gardner   1986 560 SEC Euro (220kw)

>>

>>

>>

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:56:11 -0700
From: Steve Nervig <dakota at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Old folks
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi, Ken. Yes indeed - the Vegas Meet was great, with special thanks to the
Ramays and the Cavazos. Photos are still viewable here, including a nice
write up by Jim Baubel. Several photos of you and your beautiful white 1991
560SEC.

<http://web.mac.com/dakota/Trips/Las_Vegas.html>

Steve Nervig
1992 300CE Sportline


On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Bucks2 at aol.com wrote:


> I too have moved on to an S class and no longer have and SEC, but I lurk

occasionally. I still wear my Las Vegas / Chicago get together polo shirt.
Good memories every time I drive by the Bahama Breeze restaurant when I'm in
Vegas, wishing I had a picture of 21 SEC's parked in the lot. Thanks again
Mike Ramay for a great get together.

>  

> Ken Buck

>  

>  

> In a message dated 9/7/2011 3:28:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com writes:

> Don't have my SEC, but have a 300CE. Still like to keep up on what's going

on with the gang.

> Jay

> 


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