[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 88, Issue 5
Mac Blair
buick32 at comcast.net
Fri Sep 2 16:11:44 EDT 2011
I must admit that I got thoroughly lost in the welter of website addresses,
and what you were, were not, and decided not to do. Today is Thursday.
What is the bottom line?
McClellan G. Blair, Ph.D.
Director of Technical Services
AQUEONICS, INC
(724)840-4481 Mobile
(864)286-3933 Office
(864)286-3935 Fax
www.aqueonics.com
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> 1. Re: Clearing up confusion about the "new" MBcoupes mailing
> list & web forum (Dan Landiss)
> 2. Re: Clearing up confusion about the "new" MBcoupes mailing
> list & web forum (wjs)
> 3. Re: Clearing up confusion about the "new" MBcoupes
> mailing
> list & web forum (560secFL)
> 4. SEC hood and trunk (Markus Meyer)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:31:54 -0500
> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new"
> MBcoupes mailing list & web forum
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <4E60CCBA.506 at landiss.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> Did I hear someone comment yesterday on "boorish behavior"?
>
> Is there anyone still reading this list who did not understand that
> Jay's answer "YES" was to Axel's question "Anyone else having the same
> issue"?
>
> (Actually, Gerry had already answered that in his message September 1 at
> 11:26am CDT. He stated: "The 'new' email list is deleted, mbcoupes.org
> domain has been redirected to the MBUSA web site.")
>
> If we switch to a Google Group it will easy to put boors and babblers on
> moderation.
>
>
>
> on 9/2/2011 5:42 AM James Oosthuizen wrote:
> >
> > Is that "Yes, I'm excited that you're getting screwed and confused by
> > your own innate ability to manage anything but a simple 20 year old
> > forum" or
> >
> > "Yes" (But really I don't know wtf I'm talking about) or
> >
> > "Yes you Neanderthal, just look at the stupid page and realize that
> > you pissed off the guy who tried to make your life easier and now he's
> > told you all to go to hell" or
> >
> > "Yes" so you can get one more point towards senior poster on
> the forum, or
> >
> > "Yes, I clicked the same link you did and ended up at the same page
> > with a bunch of mumble jumble that looks nothing like an SEC" or
> >
> > "Yes"......(dumbazz)
> >
> > BTW, I'm just babbling and having fun....just in case someone takes
> > all that personally for some reason
> >
> > Hein
> >
> > *From:*mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] *On Behalf Of *Jay Hirsch
> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:57 PM
> > *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new"
> > MBcoupes mailing list & web forum
> >
> > YES
> >
> > Jay H
> >
> > On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Axel Wulff wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmmmm.....
> >
> > Every time I try to go tombcoupes.org <http://mbcoupes.org>, I get
> > redirected to the arrival page for Mercedes-Benz USA.
> >
> > Anyone else having the same issue?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Axel J. Wulff
> > 610-731-5453 Cellular
> > 610-572-4611 Home
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From:hugh587 at hotmail.com <mailto:hugh587 at hotmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:18:56 -0400
> > To:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new"
> > MBcoupes mailing list & web forum
> >
> > Gerry, is thembcoupes.org <http://mbcoupes.org>sign up page still
> > available ? I seem to have signed up for the 500E
> >
> > forum.
> >
> > Hugh MacGregor
> >
> >
> > Sent from Hugh's iPad
> >
> >
> > On Aug 31, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at me.com
> > <mailto:gerryvz at me.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Just a few things to make sure people are not confused on this:
> >
> > THE OLD STATUS QUO
> >
> > * There is a web site that has been around for a LONG time
> > atwww.mbcoupes.com <http://www.mbcoupes.com>. This web site
> > has not been updated/curated for at least 5 years
> > * There is an email list (THIS e-mail list) that has been around
> > for a LONG time at email addressmbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> > <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>. This email list is not
> > actively managed and hasn't been for a long time. Furthermore
> > it uses antiquated 1990s email list technology. This email
> > list's archives were once available but don't seem to be
> > available anymore (or only partly available). The list has a
> > number of members whose accounts have been taken over by
> > spammers -- mainly an irritation, but if the list was actively
> > managed this nuisance could easily be eliminated.
> >
> > WHAT STEVE AND I DID ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO:
> >
> > * Recognizing that 126 coupe owners deserve an actively managed
> > and curated e-mail list, two weeks ago Steve and I established
> > a REPLACEMENT e-mail list at email
> > addressmbcoupes at mbcoupes.org
> > <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.org>(i.e. the "new" list). We had
> > about 30 people sign up for that new list using a web page
> > that Steve graciously set up for this purpose, to make the
> > signup process easy. At my request, Steve has taken that
> > signup page down because as I indicated, I have been planning
> > to abandon the "new list" effort due to a lack of critical
> > mass over the past 2 weeks.
> > * I reserved the domainwww.mbcoupes.org
> > <http://www.mbcoupes.org>(different frommbcoupes.com
> > <http://mbcoupes.com>) and am using that address both for the
> > "new" email list (mbcoupes at mbcoupes.org
> > <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.org>) and also to point directly to
> > a separate, SEC-focused internet forum that I tacked onto a
> > web site I run that caters to 500E and 400E owners. If you go
> > to the web site "www.mbcoupes.org <http://www.mbcoupes.org>"
> > you will get pointed to this Internet forum. It is primarily
> > a repository for how-tos and other information that is of
> > interest to 126 coupe owners.
> > * The "new"mbcoupes.org <http://mbcoupes.org>email list that
> > Steve and I set up IS ONLY for SEC/126 related information.
> > There is no 500E information on this list - it would be
> > off-topic.
> > * If you want full access to photographs posted on the 126
> > sub-board on my 500E web site, you have to sign up for the
> > forum for a free membership, just like with any other web
> > forum. Full text is available for anyone and doesn't require
> > sign-up, but for photos associated with the how-tos you do
> > have to sign up. This is TOTALLY OPTIONAL and is NOT
> > ASSOCIATED with the "new emai list" that Steve Nervig and I
> > set up. The web forum is only an additional resource out
> > there that I made available because it's an easy add-on to the
> > 500E site I have already been running for several years now.
> >
> > I hope this clears things up. It seems that people do seem to
> > have interest in the "new email list" and I intend to make a final
> > decision about it tomorrow (Thursday).
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website! W126 SEC Mailing List Postings remain property
> > of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
> --
>
> If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast
> enough. --Mario Andretti
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:45:09 -0400
> From: wjs <wjs201 at optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new"
> MBcoupes mailing list & web forum
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <32D2C89F-7FD9-4F42-99AD-0AE28C84B030 at optonline.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Hey James -- in the spirit of camaraderie, perhaps you could be
> less abrasive; does biting sarcasm really serve anyone's best
> interest? Besides, it reflects more on your nature than your subject's.
>
> Jack
> '87 SEC
>
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:42 AM, James Oosthuizen wrote:
>
> > Is that ?Yes, I?m excited that you?re getting screwed and
> confused by your own innate ability to manage anything but a
> simple 20 year old forum? or
> >
> > ?Yes? (But really I don?t know wtf I?m talking about) or
> >
> > ?Yes you Neanderthal, just look at the stupid page and realize
> that you pissed off the guy who tried to make your life easier
> and now he?s told you all to go to hell? or
> >
> > ?Yes? so you can get one more point towards senior poster on
> the forum, or
> >
> > ?Yes, I clicked the same link you did and ended up at the same
> page with a bunch of mumble jumble that looks nothing like an SEC? or
> >
> > ?Yes???(dumbazz)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BTW, I?m just babbling and having fun?.just in case someone
> takes all that personally for some reason
> > Hein
> >
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch
> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:57 PM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new"
> MBcoupes mailing list & web forum
> >
> > YES
> >
> > Jay H
> > On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Axel Wulff wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hmmmm.....
> >
> > Every time I try to go to mbcoupes.org, I get redirected to the
> arrival page for Mercedes-Benz USA.
> >
> > Anyone else having the same issue?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Axel J. Wulff
> > 610-731-5453 Cellular
> > 610-572-4611 Home
> >
> >
> > From: hugh587 at hotmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:18:56 -0400
> > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new"
> MBcoupes mailing list & web forum
> >
> > Gerry, is the mbcoupes.org sign up page still available ? I
> seem to have signed up for the 500E
> > forum.
> > Hugh MacGregor
> >
> > Sent from Hugh's iPad
> >
> > On Aug 31, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at me.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just a few things to make sure people are not confused on this:
> >
> > THE OLD STATUS QUO
> >
> > There is a web site that has been around for a LONG time at
> www.mbcoupes.com. This web site has not been updated/curated for
> at least 5 years
> > There is an email list (THIS e-mail list) that has been around
> for a LONG time at email address mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com. This
> email list is not actively managed and hasn't been for a long
> time. Furthermore it uses antiquated 1990s email list technology.
> This email list's archives were once available but don't seem to
> be available anymore (or only partly available). The list has a
> number of members whose accounts have been taken over by spammers
> -- mainly an irritation, but if the list was actively managed
> this nuisance could easily be eliminated.
> >
> >
> > WHAT STEVE AND I DID ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO:
> >
> > Recognizing that 126 coupe owners deserve an actively managed
> and curated e-mail list, two weeks ago Steve and I established a
> REPLACEMENT e-mail list at email address mbcoupes at mbcoupes.org
> (i.e. the "new" list). We had about 30 people sign up for that
> new list using a web page that Steve graciously set up for this
> purpose, to make the signup process easy. At my request, Steve
> has taken that signup page down because as I indicated, I have
> been planning to abandon the "new list" effort due to a lack of
> critical mass over the past 2 weeks.
> > I reserved the domain www.mbcoupes.org (different from
> mbcoupes.com) and am using that address both for the "new" email
> list (mbcoupes at mbcoupes.org) and also to point directly to a
> separate, SEC-focused internet forum that I tacked onto a web
> site I run that caters to 500E and 400E owners. If you go to the
> web site "www.mbcoupes.org" you will get pointed to this Internet
> forum. It is primarily a repository for how-tos and other
> information that is of interest to 126 coupe owners.
> > The "new" mbcoupes.org email list that Steve and I set up IS
> ONLY for SEC/126 related information. There is no 500E
> information on this list - it would be off-topic.
> > If you want full access to photographs posted on the 126
> sub-board on my 500E web site, you have to sign up for the forum
> for a free membership, just like with any other web forum. Full
> text is available for anyone and doesn't require sign-up, but for
> photos associated with the how-tos you do have to sign up. This
> is TOTALLY OPTIONAL and is NOT ASSOCIATED with the "new emai
> list" that Steve Nervig and I set up. The web forum is only an
> additional resource out there that I made available because it's
> an easy add-on to the 500E site I have already been running for
> several years now.
> >
> > I hope this clears things up. It seems that people do seem to
> have interest in the "new email list" and I intend to make a
> final decision about it tomorrow (Thursday).
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Gerry
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website! W126 SEC Mailing List Postings remain
> property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:04:16 -0400
> From: "560secFL" <560secfl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new"
> MBcoupes mailing list & web forum
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <002d01cc6979$34234df0$9c69e9d0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> "People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get
> along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and
> the kids? ..."
>
>
>
> Rodney_King
>
>
>
>
>
> One of the Kids
>
> Kelly
>
> 1988 560 sec
>
>
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of James Oosthuizen
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 6:42 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new" MBcoupes
> mailing list & web forum
>
>
>
> Is that "Yes, I'm excited that you're getting screwed and confused by your
> own innate ability to manage anything but a simple 20 year old forum" or
>
>
>
> "Yes" (But really I don't know wtf I'm talking about) or
>
>
>
> "Yes you Neanderthal, just look at the stupid page and realize that you
> pissed off the guy who tried to make your life easier and now
> he's told you
> all to go to hell" or
>
>
>
> "Yes" so you can get one more point towards senior poster on the forum, or
>
>
>
> "Yes, I clicked the same link you did and ended up at the same page with a
> bunch of mumble jumble that looks nothing like an SEC" or
>
>
>
> "Yes"..(dumbazz)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> BTW, I'm just babbling and having fun..just in case someone takes all that
> personally for some reason
>
> Hein
>
>
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:57 PM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new" MBcoupes
> mailing list & web forum
>
>
>
> YES
>
>
>
> Jay H
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Axel Wulff wrote:
>
>
>
> Hmmmm.....
>
> Every time I try to go to mbcoupes.org, I get redirected to the
> arrival page
> for Mercedes-Benz USA.
>
> Anyone else having the same issue?
>
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: hugh587 at hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:18:56 -0400
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clearing up confusion about the "new" MBcoupes
> mailing list & web forum
>
> Gerry, is the mbcoupes.org sign up page still available ? I seem to have
> signed up for the 500E
>
> forum.
>
> Hugh MacGregor
>
>
> Sent from Hugh's iPad
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at me.com> wrote:
>
> Just a few things to make sure people are not confused on this:
>
>
>
> THE OLD STATUS QUO
>
>
>
> * There is a web site that has been around for a LONG time at
> www.mbcoupes.com. This web site has not been updated/curated for
> at least 5
> years
> * There is an email list (THIS e-mail list) that has been around for a
> LONG time at email address mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com. This email list is not
> actively managed and hasn't been for a long time. Furthermore it uses
> antiquated 1990s email list technology. This email list's archives were
> once available but don't seem to be available anymore (or only partly
> available). The list has a number of members whose accounts have
> been taken
> over by spammers -- mainly an irritation, but if the list was actively
> managed this nuisance could easily be eliminated.
>
>
>
>
>
> WHAT STEVE AND I DID ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO:
>
>
>
> * Recognizing that 126 coupe owners deserve an actively managed and
> curated e-mail list, two weeks ago Steve and I established a REPLACEMENT
> e-mail list at email address mbcoupes at mbcoupes.org (i.e. the "new" list).
> We had about 30 people sign up for that new list using a web page
> that Steve
> graciously set up for this purpose, to make the signup process
> easy. At my
> request, Steve has taken that signup page down because as I indicated, I
> have been planning to abandon the "new list" effort due to a lack of
> critical mass over the past 2 weeks.
> * I reserved the domain www.mbcoupes.org (different from mbcoupes.com)
> and am using that address both for the "new" email list
> (mbcoupes at mbcoupes.org) and also to point directly to a separate,
> SEC-focused internet forum that I tacked onto a web site I run that caters
> to 500E and 400E owners. If you go to the web site "www.mbcoupes.org" you
> will get pointed to this Internet forum. It is primarily a repository for
> how-tos and other information that is of interest to 126 coupe owners.
> * The "new" mbcoupes.org email list that Steve and I set up IS ONLY
> for SEC/126 related information. There is no 500E information on
> this list
> - it would be off-topic.
> * If you want full access to photographs posted on the 126 sub-board
> on my 500E web site, you have to sign up for the forum for a free
> membership, just like with any other web forum. Full text is
> available for
> anyone and doesn't require sign-up, but for photos associated with the
> how-tos you do have to sign up. This is TOTALLY OPTIONAL and is NOT
> ASSOCIATED with the "new emai list" that Steve Nervig and I set
> up. The web
> forum is only an additional resource out there that I made
> available because
> it's an easy add-on to the 500E site I have already been running
> for several
> years now.
>
>
>
> I hope this clears things up. It seems that people do seem to
> have interest
> in the "new email list" and I intend to make a final decision about it
> tomorrow (Thursday).
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Gerry
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
> The MB Coupes Website! W126 SEC Mailing List Postings remain
> property of MB
> Coupes, L.L.C.
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:11:30 -0400
From: Markus Meyer <markusfmeyer at gmail.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC hood and trunk
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi gang,
I am in the process of cutting up an SEC I stripped down. I have sold much
of it off. I still have the hood and trunk. Both are aluminum of course
and expensive new. The trunk is in fine condition, debadged, silver in
color. Came from an 88, might fit the gen1 series as well. The hood is
also silver, and is fine except for the part surrounding the grille. At the
bottom the strip that goes under the grille is cracked. I was told a good
bodyshop guy who knows how to work with aluminum could fix it. Not having
an SEC anymore, I don't need either of these parts and I hate to just take
them to the recycler if someone can use them.
Let me know if interested in the next week or so. And while I'm cutting it
up, if anyone needs the whole rear clip, which was undamaged, let me know
and I cut cut that off as one piece and save it.
Markus
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