[W126 Coupe] 91 560 SEC Grille

[Jonathan Hodgman]

same.

On 11/6/2011 8:35 PM, Darryl Kepler wrote:

> I don't know if it is the same , but I have 2 380's that I am parting out.

> Darryl

> darrylkepler at comcast.net

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of Mark

> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:26 PM

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 91 560 SEC Grille

>

> A bird took out a section of my grille last week.

> Does anyone have a complete grille for sale or the plastic fins behind the

> chrome.

> Any suggestions on a 'reasonable cost' supplier of a new one would be

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Mark

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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>> Today's Topics:

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>>    1. Re: Center Console ( dick.spellman at gmail.com )

>>    2. Re: 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise (btb management)

>>    3. Re: 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise ( dick.spellman at gmail.com )

>>    4. Re: 1991 560 SEC value chart (Egill Gudmundsson)

>>    5. Re: 1991 560 SEC value chart (joe chiappinelli)

>>    6. Re: 380 died  :-( (Gerry Van Zandt)

>>    7. Re: 380 died  :-( ( dick.spellman at gmail.com )

>>    8. Re: 380 died  :-(  Thank you (Ingrid Hagstrom)

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>> Message: 1

>> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:24:12 -0400

>> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com "<dick.spellman at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Center Console

>> To: " Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists "<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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>> Dan.  If you removed the two screws at the base of the wood, you should be

> able to lift towards you at base and give it a side to side wiggle to free

> at top.  No other fasteners are involved.  Switches and fiber looms can be

> pushed from behind and disconnected.

>> Dick Spellman

>>

>>

>> ----- Reply message -----

>> From: "L&D gardner"<cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

>> To:<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Center Console

>> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 11:02 am

>>

>>

>>

>> Hi Folks

>>

>> I have finally got the knobs off!!,I used heat gun gently,plus a plastic

>> slotted conduit gripper with multi grips,removed large nuts but the HVAC

>> panel is still held at the top where the burl wood panel touches the

> dash,do

>> I have to remove switches to access some screws and if so what is the best

>> way to remove the switches?

>>

>>

>>             Kind Regards Dan 1986 560 SEC  Euro (220kw)

>>

>> Today's Topics:

>>

>>    1. Re: Centre Console removal (Jay Manek)

>>

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>> Message: 1

>> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:17:30 -0000

>> From: "Jay Manek"<jaymanek at hotmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Centre Console removal

>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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>> they can be extremely tight...

>>

>> I would pull harder...the worst that can happen is you will break the

> knobs

>> and they arent expensive from MB.

>>

>>

>>

>> Many Thanks&  Regards

>>

>> Jay Manek | www.mercland.com| 07716 349949

>>

>>

>> From: Mister McGoo

>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:14 PM

>> To: MB COUPES

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Centre Console removal

>>

>>

>> Dan;

>> Perhaps the knobs became loose and tended to slip off so someone may have

>> glued them on.  Tapping on them to try to "break"  the bond may work but

>> they are connected to the controls that may not like being hammered.  I'd

>> try that gently.

>>

>>

>> Or if you have an etching tool, place a heavy steel item/plate/putty knive

>> blade/whatever against the side of the knob grip and carefully use the

>> etching tool against the metal to in turn vibrate the knob.  Strange they

>> don't come off.... but they ARE over 20 years old and might have never

> been

>> removed before.

>> -Al

>>

>>

>>

>>> On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:23 AM, L&D gardner wrote:

>>>

>>>> Hi Folks

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for the advise regarding the console,the knobs are recessed so

>>>> its virtually impossible to get any sort of lever under them,I have put

>>>> so much force gripping them and trying to pull off that I can see them

>>>> being destroyed in the process,I may try careful use a heat gun.(its

>>>> like they are super glued on!)

>>>>

>>>> Kind Regards Dan

>>

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>> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:48:13 +0000

>> From: btb management<btbmanagement at hotmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

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>> When I try to run the a/c or heater on my 1985 500 sec there is a loudish

>> vibrating grumble noise and room temp air blows on either setting...is

> this compressor related?

>> Thanks,

>> Robert

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>> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:55:00 -0400

>> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com "<dick.spellman at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

>> To: " Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists "<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>,

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>> In engine bay its compressor.  Behind glove box its blower.

>>

>> Dick Spellman

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>> From: "btb management"<btbmanagement at hotmail.com>

>> To:<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

>> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 12:48 pm

>> When I try to run the a/c or heater on my 1985 500 sec there is a loudish

>> vibrating grumble noise and room temp air blows on either setting...is

> this compressor related?

>> Thanks,

>> Robert

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>> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:21:41 -0500

>> From: "Egill Gudmundsson"<n604th at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

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>> Hey Joe,

>>

>>

>>

>> What would you think a reasonable price would be for my 1991 with 209.000

>> miles and all the extras done to it.

>>

>>

>>

>> Please email me at egill at iam-aviation.com

>>

>>

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Egill Gudmundsson

>>

>>

>>

>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>> On Behalf Of joe chiappinelli

>> Sent: 27. okt?ber 2011 15:14

>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

>>

>>

>>

>> To all,

>>

>> Have now collected 125 classified listings for 1991 560 SECs imported to

>> North America. All listings in this database have VIN numbers, int/ext

>> colors, mileage and asking/sale price. The attached chart shows the data

>> listed. This data does not reflect condition in any way. Draw your own

>> conclusions. I will publish updates from time to time for the general use

> of

>> the group.

>>

>> J.Chip

>> 1991 560 SEC

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>> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:50:38 -0400

>> From: joe chiappinelli<joe.chiappinelli at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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>> Egill.

>> I'm traveling in Madrid on a little bus/vac and don't have my database

>> available with me. I'll get back to you when I return next week

>>

>> Jchip

>>

>> On 11/5/11, Egill Gudmundsson<n604th at gmail.com>  wrote:

>>> Hey Joe,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> What would you think a reasonable price would be for my 1991 with 209.000

>>> miles and all the extras done to it.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Please email me at egill at iam-aviation.com

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>> Egill Gudmundsson

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>>> On Behalf Of joe chiappinelli

>>> Sent: 27. okt?ber 2011 15:14

>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> To all,

>>>

>>> Have now collected 125 classified listings for 1991 560 SECs imported to

>>> North America. All listings in this database have VIN numbers, int/ext

>>> colors, mileage and asking/sale price. The attached chart shows the data

>>> listed. This data does not reflect condition in any way. Draw your own

>>> conclusions. I will publish updates from time to time for the general use

> of

>>> the group.

>>>

>>> J.Chip

>>> 1991 560 SEC

>>>

>>>

>> -- 

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>> Message: 6

>> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:00:36 -0500

>> From: Gerry Van Zandt<gerryvz at me.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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>> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:  ignition

> control box, dead coil, etc.

>> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your fuses?

> Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

>> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just prior

> to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light up like a

> Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and you're running

> off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some time on the battery

> as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).  The OVP is another

> culprit here.

>> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your ignition

> control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then your coil.

>> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch - it

> sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of electricity to

> the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will allow you to start when

> in Neutral, but not in Park.

>

>> Good luck!

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Gerry

>>

>>

>>

>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com wrote:

>>

>>> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I

>>> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).

>>> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor -

>>> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing

>>> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops

>>> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>>>

>>> Any ideas?

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>>

>>> Ingrid

>>> Cooma, Australia

>>> 380SEC

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>> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:11:52 -0400

>> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com "<dick.spellman at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

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>> Nice write up Ferry.  I'd be checking the coil and then following the

> logic flow you offered too.

>> Dick Spellman

>>

>>

>> ----- Reply message -----

>> From: "Gerry Van Zandt"<gerryvz at me.com>

>> To:<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

>> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 2:00 pm

>> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:  ignition

> control box, dead coil, etc.

>> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your fuses?

> Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

>> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just prior

> to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light up like a

> Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and you're running

> off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some time on the battery

> as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).  The OVP is another

> culprit here.

>> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your ignition

> control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then your coil.

>> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch - it

> sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of electricity to

> the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will allow you to start when

> in Neutral, but not in Park.

>

>> Good luck!

>> Cheers,Gerry

>>

>>

>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com wrote:

>>

>> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I

>> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).

>> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor -

>> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing

>> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops

>> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>>

>> Any ideas?

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>> Ingrid

>> Cooma, Australia

>> 380SEC

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>> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:03:43 +1100

>> From: Ingrid Hagstrom<ingrid at pcutechnology.com.au>

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(  Thank you

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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>> Firstly, thanks to all of you you who responded - I really appreciate

>> it.  Thanks to the mbcoupes group as a whole - to me, it is a wonderful

>> thing that a group of enthusiasts could keep this resource operating for

>> so long, and be so willing to share your time&  knowledge.

>>

>> The car is home- my brother&  I  didn't look at it yesterday, because

>> the Cooma Motor Fest was on (link below, if anyone is interested).  So,

>> today, we will start the diagnostic process.

>>

>> http://www.coomacarclub.com.au/Motorfest_2011.php

>>

>> In response to Gerry below, I have not checked all the fuses yet, but

>> will do that today.

>>

>> The dash did NOT light up.  The only unusual behavior c. 7 minutes prior

>> to the car conking out was that the CD player cut out, then came on

>> again (several times), and the aerial retracted.  I turned the CD it off.

>>

>> Re the ignition control box:  An auto electrician I met at the autofest

>> yesterday also suggested that as a possibility.  He also suggested that

>> I check the fuel pump relay.

>>

>> I'll  let you know the results - it may be a couple of days.

>>

>> BTW, I used to have a 72 VW beetle that had a habit of dying when

>> running. The problem was finally diagnosed as alternator.  The symptoms

>> are not quite the same as in the Merc - the VW's dash warning lights did

>> come on.

>>

>> Once again, thanks to all.

>>

>> Ingrid

>> Cooma, Australia

>> 380SEC

>>

>>

>>

>> On 06/11/2011 05:00, Gerry Van Zandt wrote:

>>> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:

>>> ignition control box, dead coil, etc.

>>>

>>> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your

>>> fuses?  Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

>>>

>>> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just

>>> prior to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light

>>> up like a Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and

>>> you're running off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some

>>> time on the battery as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).

>>> The OVP is another culprit here.

>>>

>>> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your

>>> ignition control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then

>>> your coil.

>>>

>>> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch -

>>> it sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of

>>> electricity to the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will

>>> allow you to start when in Neutral, but not in Park.

>>>

>>> Good luck!

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> Gerry

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com

>>> <mailto:mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>  wrote:

>>>

>>>> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I

>>>> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).

>>>> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor -

>>>> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing

>>>> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops

>>>> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>>>>

>>>> Any ideas?

>>>>

>>>> Cheers,

>>>>

>>>> Ingrid

>>>> Cooma, Australia

>>>> 380SEC

>>>

>>>

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