[W126 Coupe] 91 560 SEC Grille

[Ronny 560sec]

Mark,
I have a grill from an 1987 SEC, but the plastic chrome on top of the black 
fins in the middle and around are in bad shape.

Ronny
Glendora, Ca

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:26 AM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] 91 560 SEC Grille

A bird took out a section of my grille last week.
Does anyone have a complete grille for sale or the plastic fins behind the 
chrome.
Any suggestions on a 'reasonable cost' supplier of a new one would be 
appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark

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>   4. Re: 1991 560 SEC value chart (Egill Gudmundsson)

>   5. Re: 1991 560 SEC value chart (joe chiappinelli)

>   6. Re: 380 died  :-( (Gerry Van Zandt)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:24:12 -0400

> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com " <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Center Console

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> Dan.  If you removed the two screws at the base of the wood, you should be 

> able to lift towards you at base and give it a side to side wiggle to free 

> at top.  No other fasteners are involved.  Switches and fiber looms can be 

> pushed from behind and disconnected.

>

> Dick Spellman

>

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> ----- Reply message -----

> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Center Console

> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 11:02 am

>

>

>

> Hi Folks

>

> I have finally got the knobs off!!,I used heat gun gently,plus a plastic

> slotted conduit gripper with multi grips,removed large nuts but the HVAC

> panel is still held at the top where the burl wood panel touches the 

> dash,do

> I have to remove switches to access some screws and if so what is the best

> way to remove the switches?

>

>

>            Kind Regards Dan 1986 560 SEC  Euro (220kw)

>

> Today's Topics:

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>   1. Re: Centre Console removal (Jay Manek)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:17:30 -0000

> From: "Jay Manek" <jaymanek at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Centre Console removal

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> they can be extremely tight...

>

> I would pull harder...the worst that can happen is you will break the 

> knobs

> and they arent expensive from MB.

>

>

>

> Many Thanks & Regards

>

> Jay Manek | www.mercland.com| 07716 349949

>

>

> From: Mister McGoo

> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:14 PM

> To: MB COUPES

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Centre Console removal

>

>

> Dan;

> Perhaps the knobs became loose and tended to slip off so someone may have

> glued them on.  Tapping on them to try to "break"  the bond may work but

> they are connected to the controls that may not like being hammered.  I'd

> try that gently.

>

>

> Or if you have an etching tool, place a heavy steel item/plate/putty knive

> blade/whatever against the side of the knob grip and carefully use the

> etching tool against the metal to in turn vibrate the knob.  Strange they

> don't come off.... but they ARE over 20 years old and might have never 

> been

> removed before.

> -Al

>

>

>

>>

>> On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:23 AM, L&D gardner wrote:

>>

>>> Hi Folks

>>>

>>> Thanks for the advise regarding the console,the knobs are recessed so

>>> its virtually impossible to get any sort of lever under them,I have put

>>> so much force gripping them and trying to pull off that I can see them

>>> being destroyed in the process,I may try careful use a heat gun.(its

>>> like they are super glued on!)

>>>

>>> Kind Regards Dan

>

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> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:48:13 +0000

> From: btb management <btbmanagement at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

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> When I try to run the a/c or heater on my 1985 500 sec there is a loudish

> vibrating grumble noise and room temp air blows on either setting...is 

> this compressor related?

> Thanks,

> Robert

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> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com " <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

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> In engine bay its compressor.  Behind glove box its blower.

>

> Dick Spellman

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> From: "btb management" <btbmanagement at hotmail.com>

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 12:48 pm

> When I try to run the a/c or heater on my 1985 500 sec there is a loudish

> vibrating grumble noise and room temp air blows on either setting...is 

> this compressor related?

> Thanks,

> Robert

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> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:21:41 -0500

> From: "Egill Gudmundsson" <n604th at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

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> Hey Joe,

>

>

>

> What would you think a reasonable price would be for my 1991 with 209.000

> miles and all the extras done to it.

>

>

>

> Please email me at egill at iam-aviation.com

>

>

>

> Thanks

>

> Egill Gudmundsson

>

>

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of joe chiappinelli

> Sent: 27. okt?ber 2011 15:14

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

>

>

>

> To all,

>

> Have now collected 125 classified listings for 1991 560 SECs imported to

> North America. All listings in this database have VIN numbers, int/ext

> colors, mileage and asking/sale price. The attached chart shows the data

> listed. This data does not reflect condition in any way. Draw your own

> conclusions. I will publish updates from time to time for the general use 

> of

> the group.

>

> J.Chip

> 1991 560 SEC

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> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:50:38 -0400

> From: joe chiappinelli <joe.chiappinelli at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

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> Egill.

> I'm traveling in Madrid on a little bus/vac and don't have my database

> available with me. I'll get back to you when I return next week

>

> Jchip

>

> On 11/5/11, Egill Gudmundsson <n604th at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hey Joe,

>>

>>

>>

>> What would you think a reasonable price would be for my 1991 with 209.000

>> miles and all the extras done to it.

>>

>>

>>

>> Please email me at egill at iam-aviation.com

>>

>>

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Egill Gudmundsson

>>

>>

>>

>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 

>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>> On Behalf Of joe chiappinelli

>> Sent: 27. okt?ber 2011 15:14

>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

>>

>>

>>

>> To all,

>>

>> Have now collected 125 classified listings for 1991 560 SECs imported to

>> North America. All listings in this database have VIN numbers, int/ext

>> colors, mileage and asking/sale price. The attached chart shows the data

>> listed. This data does not reflect condition in any way. Draw your own

>> conclusions. I will publish updates from time to time for the general use 

>> of

>> the group.

>>

>> J.Chip

>> 1991 560 SEC

>>

>>

>

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> Message: 6

> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:00:36 -0500

> From: Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at me.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:  ignition 

> control box, dead coil, etc.

>

> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your fuses? 

> Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

>

> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just prior 

> to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light up like a 

> Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and you're running 

> off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some time on the battery 

> as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).  The OVP is another 

> culprit here.

>

> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your ignition 

> control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then your coil.

>

> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch - it 

> sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of electricity 

> to the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will allow you to start 

> when in Neutral, but not in Park.

>

> Good luck!

>

> Cheers,

> Gerry

>

>

>

> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com wrote:

>

>>

>> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I

>> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).

>> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor -

>> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing

>> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops

>> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>>

>> Any ideas?

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>> Ingrid

>> Cooma, Australia

>> 380SEC

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> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:11:52 -0400

> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com " <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

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> Nice write up Ferry.  I'd be checking the coil and then following the 

> logic flow you offered too.

>

> Dick Spellman

>

>

> ----- Reply message -----

> From: "Gerry Van Zandt" <gerryvz at me.com>

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 2:00 pm

> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:  ignition 

> control box, dead coil, etc.

> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your fuses? 

> Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just prior 

> to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light up like a 

> Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and you're running 

> off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some time on the battery 

> as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).  The OVP is another 

> culprit here.

> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your ignition 

> control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then your coil.

> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch - it 

> sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of electricity 

> to the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will allow you to start 

> when in Neutral, but not in Park.

> Good luck!

> Cheers,Gerry

>

>

> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com wrote:

>

> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I

> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).

> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor -

> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing

> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops

> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>

> Any ideas?

>

> Cheers,

>

> Ingrid

> Cooma, Australia

> 380SEC

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> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:03:43 +1100

> From: Ingrid Hagstrom <ingrid at pcutechnology.com.au>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(  Thank you

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> Firstly, thanks to all of you you who responded - I really appreciate

> it.  Thanks to the mbcoupes group as a whole - to me, it is a wonderful

> thing that a group of enthusiasts could keep this resource operating for

> so long, and be so willing to share your time & knowledge.

>

> The car is home- my brother & I  didn't look at it yesterday, because

> the Cooma Motor Fest was on (link below, if anyone is interested).  So,

> today, we will start the diagnostic process.

>

> http://www.coomacarclub.com.au/Motorfest_2011.php

>

> In response to Gerry below, I have not checked all the fuses yet, but

> will do that today.

>

> The dash did NOT light up.  The only unusual behavior c. 7 minutes prior

> to the car conking out was that the CD player cut out, then came on

> again (several times), and the aerial retracted.  I turned the CD it off.

>

> Re the ignition control box:  An auto electrician I met at the autofest

> yesterday also suggested that as a possibility.  He also suggested that

> I check the fuel pump relay.

>

> I'll  let you know the results - it may be a couple of days.

>

> BTW, I used to have a 72 VW beetle that had a habit of dying when

> running. The problem was finally diagnosed as alternator.  The symptoms

> are not quite the same as in the Merc - the VW's dash warning lights did

> come on.

>

> Once again, thanks to all.

>

> Ingrid

> Cooma, Australia

> 380SEC

>

>

>

> On 06/11/2011 05:00, Gerry Van Zandt wrote:

>> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:

>> ignition control box, dead coil, etc.

>>

>> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your

>> fuses?  Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

>>

>> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just

>> prior to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light

>> up like a Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and

>> you're running off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some

>> time on the battery as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).

>> The OVP is another culprit here.

>>

>> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your

>> ignition control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then

>> your coil.

>>

>> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch -

>> it sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of

>> electricity to the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will

>> allow you to start when in Neutral, but not in Park.

>>

>> Good luck!

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Gerry

>>

>>

>>

>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com

>> <mailto:mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I

>>> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).

>>> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor -

>>> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing

>>> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops

>>> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>>>

>>> Any ideas?

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>>

>>> Ingrid

>>> Cooma, Australia

>>> 380SEC

>>

>>

>>

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