[W126 Coupe] 91 560 SEC Grille

[Mark]

A bird took out a section of my grille last week.
Does anyone have a complete grille for sale or the plastic fins behind the chrome.
Any suggestions on a 'reasonable cost' supplier of a new one would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark

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>   1. Re: Center Console ( dick.spellman at gmail.com )

>   2. Re: 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise (btb management)

>   3. Re: 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise ( dick.spellman at gmail.com )

>   4. Re: 1991 560 SEC value chart (Egill Gudmundsson)

>   5. Re: 1991 560 SEC value chart (joe chiappinelli)

>   6. Re: 380 died  :-( (Gerry Van Zandt)

>   7. Re: 380 died  :-( ( dick.spellman at gmail.com )

>   8. Re: 380 died  :-(  Thank you (Ingrid Hagstrom)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:24:12 -0400

> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com " <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Center Console

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> Dan.  If you removed the two screws at the base of the wood, you should be able to lift towards you at base and give it a side to side wiggle to free at top.  No other fasteners are involved.  Switches and fiber looms can be pushed from behind and disconnected.

> 

> Dick Spellman

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> From: "L&D gardner" <cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au>

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Center Console

> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 11:02 am

> 

> 

> 

> Hi Folks

> 

> I have finally got the knobs off!!,I used heat gun gently,plus a plastic 

> slotted conduit gripper with multi grips,removed large nuts but the HVAC 

> panel is still held at the top where the burl wood panel touches the dash,do 

> I have to remove switches to access some screws and if so what is the best 

> way to remove the switches?

> 

> 

>            Kind Regards Dan 1986 560 SEC  Euro (220kw)

> 

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>   1. Re: Centre Console removal (Jay Manek)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:17:30 -0000

> From: "Jay Manek" <jaymanek at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Centre Console removal

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> they can be extremely tight...

> 

> I would pull harder...the worst that can happen is you will break the knobs 

> and they arent expensive from MB.

> 

> 

> 

> Many Thanks & Regards

> 

> Jay Manek | www.mercland.com| 07716 349949

> 

> 

> From: Mister McGoo

> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:14 PM

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> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Centre Console removal

> 

> 

> Dan;

> Perhaps the knobs became loose and tended to slip off so someone may have 

> glued them on.  Tapping on them to try to "break"  the bond may work but 

> they are connected to the controls that may not like being hammered.  I'd 

> try that gently.

> 

> 

> Or if you have an etching tool, place a heavy steel item/plate/putty knive 

> blade/whatever against the side of the knob grip and carefully use the 

> etching tool against the metal to in turn vibrate the knob.  Strange they 

> don't come off.... but they ARE over 20 years old and might have never been 

> removed before.

> -Al

> 

> 

> 

>> 

>> On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:23 AM, L&D gardner wrote:

>> 

>>> Hi Folks

>>> 

>>> Thanks for the advise regarding the console,the knobs are recessed so 

>>> its virtually impossible to get any sort of lever under them,I have put 

>>> so much force gripping them and trying to pull off that I can see them 

>>> being destroyed in the process,I may try careful use a heat gun.(its 

>>> like they are super glued on!)

>>> 

>>> Kind Regards Dan

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> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:48:13 +0000

> From: btb management <btbmanagement at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

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> When I try to run the a/c or heater on my 1985 500 sec there is a loudish 

> vibrating grumble noise and room temp air blows on either setting...is this compressor related?

> Thanks,

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> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com " <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

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> In engine bay its compressor.  Behind glove box its blower.

> 

> Dick Spellman

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> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1985 500 sec heater/a/c noise

> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 12:48 pm

> When I try to run the a/c or heater on my 1985 500 sec there is a loudish 

> vibrating grumble noise and room temp air blows on either setting...is this compressor related?

> Thanks,

> Robert

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> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:21:41 -0500

> From: "Egill Gudmundsson" <n604th at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

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> Hey Joe, 

> 

> 

> 

> What would you think a reasonable price would be for my 1991 with 209.000

> miles and all the extras done to it.

> 

> 

> 

> Please email me at egill at iam-aviation.com

> 

> 

> 

> Thanks 

> 

> Egill Gudmundsson

> 

> 

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> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of joe chiappinelli

> Sent: 27. okt?ber 2011 15:14

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> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

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> 

> 

> To all,

> 

> Have now collected 125 classified listings for 1991 560 SECs imported to

> North America. All listings in this database have VIN numbers, int/ext

> colors, mileage and asking/sale price. The attached chart shows the data

> listed. This data does not reflect condition in any way. Draw your own

> conclusions. I will publish updates from time to time for the general use of

> the group.

> 

> J.Chip

> 1991 560 SEC

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> Message: 5

> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:50:38 -0400

> From: joe chiappinelli <joe.chiappinelli at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

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> Egill.

> I'm traveling in Madrid on a little bus/vac and don't have my database

> available with me. I'll get back to you when I return next week

> 

> Jchip

> 

> On 11/5/11, Egill Gudmundsson <n604th at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Hey Joe,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> What would you think a reasonable price would be for my 1991 with 209.000

>> miles and all the extras done to it.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Please email me at egill at iam-aviation.com

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Thanks

>> 

>> Egill Gudmundsson

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>> On Behalf Of joe chiappinelli

>> Sent: 27. okt?ber 2011 15:14

>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 1991 560 SEC value chart

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> To all,

>> 

>> Have now collected 125 classified listings for 1991 560 SECs imported to

>> North America. All listings in this database have VIN numbers, int/ext

>> colors, mileage and asking/sale price. The attached chart shows the data

>> listed. This data does not reflect condition in any way. Draw your own

>> conclusions. I will publish updates from time to time for the general use of

>> the group.

>> 

>> J.Chip

>> 1991 560 SEC

>> 

>> 

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> Message: 6

> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:00:36 -0500

> From: Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at me.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

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> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:  ignition control box, dead coil, etc.

> 

> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your fuses?  Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

> 

> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just prior to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light up like a Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and you're running off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some time on the battery as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).  The OVP is another culprit here.

> 

> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your ignition control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then your coil.

> 

> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch - it sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of electricity to the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will allow you to start when in Neutral, but not in Park.

> 

> Good luck!

> 

> Cheers,

> Gerry

> 

> 

> 

> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com wrote:

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>> 

>> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I 

>> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).  

>> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor - 

>> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing 

>> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops 

>> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>> 

>> Any ideas?

>> 

>> Cheers,

>> 

>> Ingrid

>> Cooma, Australia

>> 380SEC

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> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:11:52 -0400

> From: " dick.spellman at gmail.com " <dick.spellman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

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> Nice write up Ferry.  I'd be checking the coil and then following the logic flow you offered too.

> 

> Dick Spellman

> 

> 

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> From: "Gerry Van Zandt" <gerryvz at me.com>

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(

> Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 2:00 pm

> There are very few things that would make a running engine die:  ignition control box, dead coil, etc.

> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your fuses?  Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just prior to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light up like a Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and you're running off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some time on the battery as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.).  The OVP is another culprit here.

> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your ignition control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then your coil.

> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch - it sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of electricity to the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will allow you to start when in Neutral, but not in Park.

> Good luck!

> Cheers,Gerry

> 

> 

> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com wrote:

> 

> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I 

> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).  

> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor - 

> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing 

> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops 

> slightly when the ignition is turned.

> 

> Any ideas?

> 

> Cheers,

> 

> Ingrid

> Cooma, Australia

> 380SEC

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> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:03:43 +1100

> From: Ingrid Hagstrom <ingrid at pcutechnology.com.au>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 died  :-(  Thank you

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> Firstly, thanks to all of you you who responded - I really appreciate 

> it.  Thanks to the mbcoupes group as a whole - to me, it is a wonderful 

> thing that a group of enthusiasts could keep this resource operating for 

> so long, and be so willing to share your time & knowledge.

> 

> The car is home- my brother & I  didn't look at it yesterday, because 

> the Cooma Motor Fest was on (link below, if anyone is interested).  So, 

> today, we will start the diagnostic process.

> 

> http://www.coomacarclub.com.au/Motorfest_2011.php

> 

> In response to Gerry below, I have not checked all the fuses yet, but 

> will do that today.

> 

> The dash did NOT light up.  The only unusual behavior c. 7 minutes prior 

> to the car conking out was that the CD player cut out, then came on 

> again (several times), and the aerial retracted.  I turned the CD it off.

> 

> Re the ignition control box:  An auto electrician I met at the autofest 

> yesterday also suggested that as a possibility.  He also suggested that 

> I check the fuel pump relay.

> 

> I'll  let you know the results - it may be a couple of days.

> 

> BTW, I used to have a 72 VW beetle that had a habit of dying when 

> running. The problem was finally diagnosed as alternator.  The symptoms 

> are not quite the same as in the Merc - the VW's dash warning lights did 

> come on.

> 

> Once again, thanks to all.

> 

> Ingrid

> Cooma, Australia

> 380SEC

> 

> 

> 

> On 06/11/2011 05:00, Gerry Van Zandt wrote:

>> There are very few things that would make a running engine die: 

>> ignition control box, dead coil, etc.

>> 

>> First of all, the basics.  Did you check your fuses? ALL of your 

>> fuses?  Turn each of them in their fuse holders at least 360 degrees?

>> 

>> Did any lights light up on your dash (ABS, Battery lamp, etc.) just 

>> prior to when the car conked out?  Usually when your dash lights light 

>> up like a Christmas tree, then you know your alternator has died and 

>> you're running off the battery (and you can usually go for quite some 

>> time on the battery as long as you turn off your lights, radio, etc.). 

>> The OVP is another culprit here.

>> 

>> But I don't think any of that is your problem.  I'd check your 

>> ignition control box. To me, that's the most logical culprit.  Then 

>> your coil.

>> 

>> With regard to not starting, also check your neutral safety switch - 

>> it sits between the battery and starter and controls the flow of 

>> electricity to the starter.  Often times when it's failing it will 

>> allow you to start when in Neutral, but not in Park.

>> 

>> Good luck!

>> 

>> Cheers,

>> Gerry

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com 

>> <mailto:mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com> wrote:

>> 

>>> 

>>> My 380SEC died as I was driving home yesterday afternoon (fortunately, I

>>> could pull off the road, AND I was within walking distance of home ).

>>> Preliminary investigation suggests electrical and/or starter motor -

>>> when I turn the ignition key, I here a series of clicks, but nothing

>>> further.  We checked the battery with a voltmeter - full charge, drops

>>> slightly when the ignition is turned.

>>> 

>>> Any ideas?

>>> 

>>> Cheers,

>>> 

>>> Ingrid

>>> Cooma, Australia

>>> 380SEC

>> 

>> 

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