[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 84, Issue 1

[David Leonard]

i went to sears, and they put in the exact fit battery--it's worked 
perfectly for four years, now, and has tons of power.  didn't seem to 
make sense to mess around with it, for the minor savings i would have 
derived.   in the northeast, we have heat and we have cold, that's for sure.

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David Leonard
Director
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>     1. Battery for 560 (Robert Karl Stonjek)

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>     4. Re: Battery for 560 (Dan Landiss)

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> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 16:05:16 +1000

> From: "Robert Karl Stonjek"<rstonjek at bigpond.net.au>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Battery for 560

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> What's the best battery for a 560SEC (euro, higher compression)?

>

> The last two batteries in my car do not appear to have been adequate, the original (on purchase) being Bosch BDIW65I with CCA of 550 and RC of 105.  That battery was hopeless.

>

> I had it replaced with a Century DIN 85L with CCA of 600 and RC of 135.  This is a bigger battery but it only lasted 5 years and is now gone, but it never really cranked the motor over fast enough in my opinion.

>

> The owner's manual suggests a 91A/h battery.

>

> Online battery selectors suggest DIN 88 or DIN 100.  The battery should be no more than 350*175mm by my measurement.  It could be taller than 175 (current battery height), but no more than around 200mm.

>

> Batteries I've seen online include the Federal 649MF (900CCA, 100A/h, DIN95) but they are hard to get and expensive in Oz.

>

> The Dekor 58515 (DIN88L) looks good (CCA 750, RC 165) but it is expensive ($70 more than the battery I last purchased plus I have to pay freight of $50 to get down to where I live ie it is not available locally).  This is a 'maintenance free' battery.

>

> The main physical difference between DIN88 and DIN100 is 19 verses 21 plate construction (outside dimensions can be the same depending on manufacturer).

>

> It looks like DIN100 is the best option, but what brand and where can you get them from (in Oz).  I suppose the low compression cars (9:1) don't have so much of a problem with cold cranking (CCA) as the higher compression (10:1) euro version.

>

> And another problem you probably don't have ~ hitting kangaroos.  I hit one at 140kph a few days ago.  It hit on the lower right hand (driver's) side bending the bumper bar and destroying the fog lamp but doing no other significant damage.  The roo was killed outright and was in very messy condition.  Had I been going slower it would have had time to put in another hop and would have been caught right in the middle of my grill, probably leaving the car undrivable and very expensively damaged.

>

> Not quite sure how I'm going to straighten the bumper (is bent downward, maybe a couple of cm ie an inch).

>

> Robert

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> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 05:57:33 -0400

> From: Markus Meyer<markusfmeyer at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Battery for 560

> To: Robert Karl Stonjek<stonjek at ozemail.com.au>, 	Mercedes Coupes

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> I've had the best luck with Interstate Batteries.  The one I replaced in my

> last 560 had exceeded the warranty period by almost 2 years.  I have one in

> one of my other cars now that is 10 years old and still going.  The one in

> another car is 7 years old and still going.

>

> Mercedes used to use that brand but has recently switched to Deka.

>

> Markus

>

> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Robert Karl Stonjek<rstonjek at bigpond.net.au

>> wrote:

>>   What's the best battery for a 560SEC (euro, higher compression)?

>>

>> The last two batteries in my car do not appear to have been adequate, the

>> original (on purchase) being Bosch BDIW65I with CCA of 550 and RC of 105.

>> That battery was hopeless.

>>

>> I had it replaced with a Century DIN 85L with CCA of 600 and RC of 135.

>> This is a bigger battery but it only lasted 5 years and is now gone, but it

>> never really cranked the motor over fast enough in my opinion.

>>

>> The owner's manual suggests a 91A/h battery.

>>

>> Online battery selectors suggest DIN 88 or DIN 100.  The battery should be

>> no more than 350*175mm by my measurement.  It could be taller than 175

>> (current battery height), but no more than around 200mm.

>>

>> Batteries I've seen online include the Federal 649MF (900CCA, 100A/h,

>> DIN95) but they are hard to get and expensive in Oz.

>>

>> The Dekor 58515 (DIN88L) looks good (CCA 750, RC 165) but it is expensive

>> ($70 more than the battery I last purchased plus I have to pay freight of

>> $50 to get down to where I live ie it is not available locally).  This is a

>> 'maintenance free' battery.

>>

>> The main physical difference between DIN88 and DIN100 is 19 verses 21 plate

>> construction (outside dimensions can be the same depending on manufacturer).

>>

>> It looks like DIN100 is the best option, but what brand and where can you

>> get them from (in Oz).  I suppose the low compression cars (9:1) don't have

>> so much of a problem with cold cranking (CCA) as the higher compression

>> (10:1) euro version.

>>

>> And another problem you probably don't have ~ hitting kangaroos.  I hit one

>> at 140kph a few days ago.  It hit on the lower right hand (driver's) side

>> bending the bumper bar and destroying the fog lamp but doing no other

>> significant damage.  The roo was killed outright and was in very messy

>> condition.  Had I been going slower it would have had time to put in another

>> hop and would have been caught right in the middle of my grill, probably

>> leaving the car undrivable and very expensively damaged.

>>

>> Not quite sure how I'm going to straighten the bumper (is bent downward,

>> maybe a couple of cm ie an inch).

>>

>> Robert

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> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:20:19 +0000

> From: "Day . Ralph"<RDay at drc.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Battery for 560

> To: Robert Karl Stonjek<stonjek at ozemail.com.au>, Mercedes Coupes

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> I am not familiar with the brands downunder, but I replaced mine with an Interstate battery about eight years ago.  I live in a climate with extremes, e.g. very warm to cold, and the battery hasn't failed yet.  I don't know if Interstate batteries are available in Oz.

>

> Ralph D. Day

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> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Robert Karl Stonjek

> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:05 AM

> To: MB Coupes

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Battery for 560

>

> What's the best battery for a 560SEC (euro, higher compression)?

>

> The last two batteries in my car do not appear to have been adequate, the original (on purchase) being Bosch BDIW65I with CCA of 550 and RC of 105.  That battery was hopeless.

>

> I had it replaced with a Century DIN 85L with CCA of 600 and RC of 135.  This is a bigger battery but it only lasted 5 years and is now gone, but it never really cranked the motor over fast enough in my opinion.

>

> The owner's manual suggests a 91A/h battery.

>

> Online battery selectors suggest DIN 88 or DIN 100.  The battery should be no more than 350*175mm by my measurement.  It could be taller than 175 (current battery height), but no more than around 200mm.

>

> Batteries I've seen online include the Federal 649MF (900CCA, 100A/h, DIN95) but they are hard to get and expensive in Oz.

>

> The Dekor 58515 (DIN88L) looks good (CCA 750, RC 165) but it is expensive ($70 more than the battery I last purchased plus I have to pay freight of $50 to get down to where I live ie it is not available locally).  This is a 'maintenance free' battery.

>

> The main physical difference between DIN88 and DIN100 is 19 verses 21 plate construction (outside dimensions can be the same depending on manufacturer).

>

> It looks like DIN100 is the best option, but what brand and where can you get them from (in Oz).  I suppose the low compression cars (9:1) don't have so much of a problem with cold cranking (CCA) as the higher compression (10:1) euro version.

>

> And another problem you probably don't have ~ hitting kangaroos.  I hit one at 140kph a few days ago.  It hit on the lower right hand (driver's) side bending the bumper bar and destroying the fog lamp but doing no other significant damage.  The roo was killed outright and was in very messy condition.  Had I been going slower it would have had time to put in another hop and would have been caught right in the middle of my grill, probably leaving the car undrivable and very expensively damaged.

>

> Not quite sure how I'm going to straighten the bumper (is bent downward, maybe a couple of cm ie an inch).

>

> Robert

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> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:46:45 -0500

> From: Dan Landiss<dan at landiss.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Battery for 560

> To: Robert Karl Stonjek<stonjek at ozemail.com.au>, 	Mercedes Coupes

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> I concur with the others that Interstate batteries are just fine. Have

> you considered that the problem may be the charging system, not the

> batteries? The required charging voltage varies with temperature, but

> from a 0?C cold start 14.5 to 15.o VDC is not excessive. As under-hood

> temperatures rise that should fall to around 14 VDC.

>

> Charts here:<http://landiss.com/battery.htm>.

>

> The voltage regulator for your Bosch alternator is part of the brush

> assembly and can be separately replaced. You should be able to find one

> rated at the correct charging voltage. Owners of Escort radar detectors

> might note that your display can often be switched to read battery voltage.

>

> on 5/3/2011 1:05 AM Robert Karl Stonjek wrote:

>> What's the best battery for a 560SEC (euro, higher compression)?

>> The last two batteries in my car do not appear to have been adequate,

>> the original (on purchase) being Bosch BDIW65I with CCA of 550 and RC

>> of 105.  That battery was hopeless.

>> I had it replaced with a Century DIN 85L with CCA of 600 and RC of

>> 135.  This is a bigger battery but it only lasted 5 years and is now

>> gone, but it never really cranked the motor over fast enough in my

>> opinion.

>> The owner's manual suggests a 91A/h battery.

>> Online battery selectors suggest DIN 88 or DIN 100.  The battery

>> should be no more than 350*175mm by my measurement.  It could be

>> taller than 175 (current battery height), but no more than around 200mm.

>> Batteries I've seen online include the Federal 649MF (900CCA, 100A/h,

>> DIN95) but they are hard to get and expensive in Oz.

>> The Dekor 58515 (DIN88L) looks good (CCA 750, RC 165) but it is

>> expensive ($70 more than the battery I last purchased plus I have to

>> pay freight of $50 to get down to where I live ie it is not available

>> locally).  This is a 'maintenance free' battery.

>> The main physical difference between DIN88 and DIN100 is 19 verses 21

>> plate construction (outside dimensions can be the same depending on

>> manufacturer).

>> It looks like DIN100 is the best option, but what brand and where can

>> you get them from (in Oz).  I suppose the low compression cars (9:1)

>> don't have so much of a problem with cold cranking (CCA) as the higher

>> compression (10:1) euro version.

>> And another problem you probably don't have ~ hitting kangaroos.  I

>> hit one at 140kph a few days ago.  It hit on the lower right hand

>> (driver's) side bending the bumper bar and destroying the fog lamp but

>> doing no other significant damage.  The roo was killed outright and

>> was in very messy condition.  Had I been going slower it would have

>> had time to put in another hop and would have been caught right in the

>> middle of my grill, probably leaving the car undrivable and very

>> expensively damaged.

>> Not quite sure how I'm going to straighten the bumper (is bent

>> downward, maybe a couple of cm ie an inch).

>> Robert

>>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

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>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.