[W126 Coupe] Sarasota and cold brews at the MarVista
frank.r.north at gmail.com
frank.r.north at gmail.com
Sun Jun 12 12:29:19 EDT 2011
Jay:
You must find a way to lure some coupes to a gathering on the sands of Sarasota. It's been way too long and my 560 misses the good fellowship and fried shrimp.
Frank
Tampa, FL
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1. Strange Fault (& fix) (Vance Rowley)
2. Re: Strange Fault (& fix) (Attila)
3. Re: Strange Fault (& fix) (Vance Rowley)
4. Re: Strange Fault (& fix) (Jay Febish)
5. Re: Strange Fault (& fix) (Jay Febish)
6. Re: Strange Fault (& fix) (Ronny 560sec)
7. Re: Strange Fault (& fix) (Vance Rowley)
8. Re: Strange Fault (& fix) (Mr. G.)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:32:54 +0300
From: Vance Rowley <vance_rowley at hotmail.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about 30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light. I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:56:32 -0400
From: "Attila" <attila13 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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There is no co-relation between the two. Check the vacuum
line from the
brake-booster to the intake manifold (lower plenum). Great big plastic
thingy. If that is good, put vacuum gauge on main vacuum line and see if
it holds. Yours very drunk in Florida. If the car was here, I could find
it in
no time flat. Sayonara.
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Vance Rowley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:33 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these
wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started
to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about
30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light.
I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already
slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I
managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping
of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the
rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the
wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked
perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to
get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local
garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it
myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the
brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests
up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The
brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I
cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything
is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially
as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the
hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at
the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.
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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:28:25 +0300
From: Vance Rowley <vance_rowley at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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Hi Attila,
Thanks for the fast reply and advice. I will check and let you know the results (when I get round to it).
Quite a coincidence, I used to live in Florida, but that was 4 years before my 560 was built when I used to drive around in a monster of a 7.5L Lincoln Continental which did as much as 8 miles to the gallon. (but who cared back then?).
Great times back then. Makes me wish I was back there. Have one for me.
Cheers,
Vance.
From: attila13 at bellsouth.net
To: vance.rowley at thestart.eu; mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:56:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
There is no co-relation between the two. Check the vacuum line from the
brake-booster to the intake manifold (lower plenum). Great big plastic
thingy. If that is good, put vacuum gauge on main vacuum line and see if
it holds. Yours very drunk in Florida. If the car was here, I could find it in
no time flat. Sayonara.
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Vance Rowley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:33 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about 30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light. I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:30:14 -0400
From: Jay Febish <jflyer2 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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When the wiper/brake problem happened did you happen to notice if the ABS light came on? My '91 did the same thing once. I replaced the OVP relay and never had the problem again. These cars are very quirky when there is the least bit of voltage problems, either over or under the optimum. (12.5v at the battery with car not running, 13.3 to 13.5v at the battery with the engine running.)
On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Attila wrote:
There is no co-relation between the two. Check the vacuum line from the
brake-booster to the intake manifold (lower plenum). Great big plastic
thingy. If that is good, put vacuum gauge on main vacuum line and see if
it holds. Yours very drunk in Florida. If the car was here, I could find it in
no time flat. Sayonara.
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Vance Rowley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:33 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about 30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light. I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:34:52 -0400
From: Jay Febish <jflyer2 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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Don't worry Vance, Attila will have a few brews for anyone for any reason! ;-) Attila, when're you going to get down here to Sarasota? The MarVista is probably in danger of going out of business without you and Mikey D...
Jay
On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Vance Rowley wrote:
Hi Attila,
Thanks for the fast reply and advice. I will check and let you know the results (when I get round to it).
Quite a coincidence, I used to live in Florida, but that was 4 years before my 560 was built when I used to drive around in a monster of a 7.5L Lincoln Continental which did as much as 8 miles to the gallon. (but who cared back then?).
Great times back then. Makes me wish I was back there. Have one for me.
Cheers,
Vance.
From: attila13 at bellsouth.net
To: vance.rowley at thestart.eu; mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:56:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
There is no co-relation between the two. Check the vacuum line from the
brake-booster to the intake manifold (lower plenum). Great big plastic
thingy. If that is good, put vacuum gauge on main vacuum line and see if
it holds. Yours very drunk in Florida. If the car was here, I could find it in
no time flat. Sayonara.
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Vance Rowley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:33 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about 30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light. I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:15:25 -0700
From: "Ronny 560sec" <ronny.geenen at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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You guys are good in solving problems. Two weeks ago I was doing a Real Estate job. I parked the car and get out taking the key with me.
About 10 minutes later I got in my 87 560 SEC and want to start the engine. But no nothing happened, nada. Totally dead. I took the key and open the drivers door to get out.
The car has an after market Clifford alarm system that started making noise. I pushed the button and the alarm went off. I did not know why this happened and decided to try to start again. The car started at the turn of the key and has done it every day. No repeat problem. Why?
Ronny
From: Jay Febish
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:30 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
When the wiper/brake problem happened did you happen to notice if the ABS light came on? My '91 did the same thing once. I replaced the OVP relay and never had the problem again. These cars are very quirky when there is the least bit of voltage problems, either over or under the optimum. (12.5v at the battery with car not running, 13.3 to 13.5v at the battery with the engine running.)
On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Attila wrote:
There is no co-relation between the two. Check the vacuum line from the
brake-booster to the intake manifold (lower plenum). Great big plastic
thingy. If that is good, put vacuum gauge on main vacuum line and see if
it holds. Yours very drunk in Florida. If the car was here, I could find it in
no time flat. Sayonara.
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Vance Rowley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:33 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about 30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light. I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.
The MB Coupes Website!
W126 SEC Mailing List
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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:34:20 +0300
From: Vance Rowley <vance_rowley at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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Hi Jay,
Good point regarding the OVP relay, but I replaced mine to some years back to fix a high idle problem. Before I replaced it, both the ABS and the ASR lights were on permanently as well as the high idle, but luckily, no signs of any of those problems since. So to answer your question, no, the ABS light wasn't on when I had the brake problem. But I certainly won't dismiss the OVP relay should the problem happen again. Although I am convinced Attila is right, and there is no link with the fuse (or any electrical component) in my case.
One last silly thought though. Is it possible to accidently disturb a brake vacuum line or another part of the braking system by lifting the hood, working in the engine compartment, then closing the hood again? If so, then it could be what happened to fix my brake problem when I replaced the fuse for the wipers if I accidently and unknowingly knocked or moved a vacuum line back into place.
I know, what a stupid idea I hear you say. But I have learned not to dismiss any idea or suggestion when it comes to these cars.
Thanks again for your tips.
Vance.
From: jflyer2 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:30:14 -0400
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
When the wiper/brake problem happened did you happen to notice if the ABS light came on? My '91 did the same thing once. I replaced the OVP relay and never had the problem again. These cars are very quirky when there is the least bit of voltage problems, either over or under the optimum. (12.5v at the battery with car not running, 13.3 to 13.5v at the battery with the engine running.)
On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Attila wrote:
There is no co-relation between the two. Check the vacuum line from the
brake-booster to the intake manifold (lower plenum). Great big plastic
thingy. If that is good, put vacuum gauge on main vacuum line and see if
it holds. Yours very drunk in Florida. If the car was here, I could find it in
no time flat. Sayonara.
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Vance Rowley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:33 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about 30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light. I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.The MB Coupes Website!
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:38:07 -0400
From: "Mr. G." <prieye at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
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mara a vista sounds like a great idea.. I'm in if Attila is in. RG
From: jflyer2 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:34:52 -0400
To: vance.rowley at thestart.eu; mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Don't worry Vance, Attila will have a few brews for anyone for any reason! ;-) Attila, when're you going to get down here to Sarasota? The MarVista is probably in danger of going out of business without you and Mikey D...
Jay
On Jun 11, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Vance Rowley wrote:
Hi Attila,
Thanks for the fast reply and advice. I will check and let you know the results (when I get round to it).
Quite a coincidence, I used to live in Florida, but that was 4 years before my 560 was built when I used to drive around in a monster of a 7.5L Lincoln Continental which did as much as 8 miles to the gallon. (but who cared back then?).
Great times back then. Makes me wish I was back there. Have one for me.
Cheers,
Vance.
From: attila13 at bellsouth.net
To: vance.rowley at thestart.eu; mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:56:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
There is no co-relation between the two. Check the vacuum line from the
brake-booster to the intake manifold (lower plenum). Great big plastic
thingy. If that is good, put vacuum gauge on main vacuum line and see if
it holds. Yours very drunk in Florida. If the car was here, I could find it in
no time flat. Sayonara.
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Vance Rowley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:33 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Strange Fault (& fix)
Over the years, I have had (and heard of) some strange faults on these wonderful cars. But I can't work this one out.
Here is what happened.
I was driving into town one night (about 8 miles from home) when it started to rain. As you would expect, I turned on the wipers. They worked for about 30 seconds, then "poof" they stopped just as I was coming up to a red light. I hit the brake pedal, and it just sank to the floor. Luckily, I had already slowed down considerably before braking, so with a few pumps on the pedal I managed to stop OK.
To cut a long story short. Driving very carefully and quite a bit of pumping of the brakes, I managed to get to my destination and was also lucky the rain stopped for my return journey home.
Next day, I checked the fuses, and as expected, the fuse that powers the wipers had gone. I replaced it with a new one, and hey presto, they worked perfectly. (Nothing strange there I hear you say). I then thought, now to get to the brake problem. So jumped in the car and set off to my local garage I use for service and repairs (when I can't be bothered to do it myself). As I came up to the first junction at the end of my road, I hit the brake pedal and nearly went through the windscreen. I then did a few tests up and down my own street and managed to stop on a dime every time. The brakes worked perfectly with no sign of the pedal sinking to the floor. So I cancelled my visit to my local garage and nearly 3 months later everything is still perfect.
Now I can understand the fuse for the wipers going on a 1991 car, especially as I don't use it that much these days, but can anyone explain to me how the hell can replacing the fuse for the wipers fix my brake problem as well at the same time. I just can't work this one out.
If anyone has any ideas or recommendations, I would love to hear from you.
Yours very confused,
Vance
1991 560 SEC Euro.
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