[W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
stephenw2 at comcast.net
stephenw2 at comcast.net
Sat Feb 12 00:43:22 EST 2011
Mister McGoo, et al,
Thanks for all your feedback; I certainly read all of it this morning. And, I must say this forum is great. I didn't understand this Steering Wheel anomaly; and hadn't had driven cars as such. Today, my neighbor introduced me to his Mercedes mechanic since the car needed a brake sensor (ABS Light on); he confirmed the correctness of the Steering Wheel and showed me that looking through the Windshield at the Wheel it is perfectly lined up with the top of the dash (the part that overhangs the instrument cluster). Interesting and although I was convinced it was correct after reading the various feedback and seeing pictures, this seals the deal. I am happy again!!
I've always wanted a 560 SEC; however I have a lot to learn about the car. It's in great condition and I hope to build upon that.
Regards,
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mister McGoo" <eelploot at hotmail.com>
To: "MB COUPES" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:41:12 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
This topic is taking off a life of its own. The steering wheel being non-parallel to the dash is not a design flaw. The steering wheel is directly in front of the centerline of the DRIVER'S SEAT, which is, from a driving standpoint, "correct". As I first said, I'd be willing to bet that most drivers have never noticed this "tilt". And it's certainly not unique to Mercedes.
> From: daslone at saber.net
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:18:51 -0800
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
>
> Not Me, I have known about this "problem" for years.
>
> Read answers #10 and #14 in the post
>
> http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759995
>
> Dean
>
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> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:13
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 81, Issue 10
>
>
> > Hmmm, is it Dean that's having the problem with the steering wheel?
> >
> > At any rate, I believe that what he is trying to convey is that the
> > steering wheel itself..
> > - not the Colum
> > - not the alignment
> > - not the dash
> >
> > - The steering wheel is not "square"... in essence, when sitting in the
> > car, hands on wheel @ 9:o'clock & 3:o'clock.. you look at the left side of
> > the wheel and it seems further back or down than the right side, or one
> > side of the wheel rim is not level with the other.
> >
> > Measuring distance from the dash pad to the back of the wheel rim.. left
> > side roughly measures 9 3/4" while the right side is 10 1/2" ..
> >
> > Is this the type of issue you speak of?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
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> >> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:19:30 -0800
> >> From: "Dean Slone" <daslone at saber.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
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> >> Read this post,
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> >> http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759995
> >>
> >> Dean
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Henric aka 48hp
> >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:44
> >> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's a unique look at the C126 stripped. You can see the two steering
> >> column mounting locations and where it breeches the firewall.
> >>
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Henric
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 11, 2011, at 7:26 AM, AZTECPILOT at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Stephen,
> >>
> >> Without going out into the cold garage to look at the steering column,
> >> I believe I can say the steering column has no bends, it runs at a slight
> >> angle all the way from the dash attachment bracket, through the fire
> >> wall, and straight on to the steering gear which is mounted on the car
> >> frame. The steering gear is mounted on the frame at a position closer to
> >> the center line of the car as compared to the center of the drivers seat,
> >> hence it has to be angled to the right to mount the gear on the frame, OR
> >> have a complicated
> >> u-joint in the steering column. Benz chose the simpler mounting. Lucky
> >> for us, no u-joint to keep lubricated and possibly require replacement at
> >> some point in time.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mister McGoo" <eelploot at hotmail.com>
To: "MB COUPES" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:41:12 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
This topic is taking off a life of its own. The steering wheel being non-parallel to the dash is not a design flaw. The steering wheel is directly in front of the centerline of the DRIVER'S SEAT, which is, from a driving standpoint, "correct". As I first said, I'd be willing to bet that most drivers have never noticed this "tilt". And it's certainly not unique to Mercedes.
> From: daslone at saber.net
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:18:51 -0800
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
>
> Not Me, I have known about this "problem" for years.
>
> Read answers #10 and #14 in the post
>
> http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759995
>
> Dean
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "onboost1" <onboost1 at verizon.net>
> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:13
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 81, Issue 10
>
>
> > Hmmm, is it Dean that's having the problem with the steering wheel?
> >
> > At any rate, I believe that what he is trying to convey is that the
> > steering wheel itself..
> > - not the Colum
> > - not the alignment
> > - not the dash
> >
> > - The steering wheel is not "square"... in essence, when sitting in the
> > car, hands on wheel @ 9:o'clock & 3:o'clock.. you look at the left side of
> > the wheel and it seems further back or down than the right side, or one
> > side of the wheel rim is not level with the other.
> >
> > Measuring distance from the dash pad to the back of the wheel rim.. left
> > side roughly measures 9 3/4" while the right side is 10 1/2" ..
> >
> > Is this the type of issue you speak of?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>
> > To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:15 PM
> > Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 81, Issue 10
> >
> >
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> >>
> >> 1. Re: Problem with 1990 560 SEC (Dean Slone)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:19:30 -0800
> >> From: "Dean Slone" <daslone at saber.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
> >> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >> Message-ID: <943BC0B0B687482E9B9FB6C2F5407F2B at D2DXLQ51>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> Read this post,
> >>
> >> http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759995
> >>
> >> Dean
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Henric aka 48hp
> >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:44
> >> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Problem with 1990 560 SEC
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's a unique look at the C126 stripped. You can see the two steering
> >> column mounting locations and where it breeches the firewall.
> >>
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Henric
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 11, 2011, at 7:26 AM, AZTECPILOT at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Stephen,
> >>
> >> Without going out into the cold garage to look at the steering column,
> >> I believe I can say the steering column has no bends, it runs at a slight
> >> angle all the way from the dash attachment bracket, through the fire
> >> wall, and straight on to the steering gear which is mounted on the car
> >> frame. The steering gear is mounted on the frame at a position closer to
> >> the center line of the car as compared to the center of the drivers seat,
> >> hence it has to be angled to the right to mount the gear on the frame, OR
> >> have a complicated
> >> u-joint in the steering column. Benz chose the simpler mounting. Lucky
> >> for us, no u-joint to keep lubricated and possibly require replacement at
> >> some point in time.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom
> >> The MB Coupes Website!
> >> W126 SEC Mailing List
> >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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