[W126 Coupe] 560 SEC cracked engine block . . . DeturnedEngines?
Henric
48hp at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 9 13:51:55 EST 2010
oh what a treat to have thirty-two valves and six liters of goodness
stuffed under the under. :)
-h
On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Hodgman wrote:
> I just dropped the Hammer wagon from a 3.27 to a 2.24... Best mod I
> could have Ever done...she'll still light the tyres on a set of
> Sticky Neova's but cruising @ 90mph right about 3K rpm is
> spectacular. On the way to a meet this w/e my GPS flashed
> 172...must have been a glitch or something ;-)
>
> the 560SEL 6L 32V runs a 2.82, bit more tricky to launch then the
> wagon..but not Horrible on the highway.
>
> If anyone is looking for a 3.27 I'm contemplating letting mine
> go..or, may turn it into a track car diff..we'll see..!
>
> Jono
> On 11/9/2010 12:23 PM, Henric wrote:
>>
>> Currently I have 2.82 MB in W126 sedan and 3.06 GT in the W126
>> coupe. Both perform flawlessly and the boost in acceleration at
>> all speeds is wonderfully welcome. I have not gauged the loss in
>> MPG but the drivability trumps the negligible loss of economy.
>>
>> -h
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Ernie Stephens wrote:
>>
>>> Barry,
>>> How has this affected your gas mileage?
>>> Ernie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Barry Corno
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560 SEC cracked engine block . . .
>>> DeturnedEngines?
>>>
>>> Ernie,
>>> I exchanged my rear end from 248's to 307's big difference.
>>>
>>> B.C.
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> ] On Behalf Of Ernie Stephens
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:52 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560 SEC cracked engine block . . .
>>> DeturnedEngines?
>>>
>>> Thanks Axel, I'll check that switch and wiring. As for the rest
>>> of it, I might take the car into a muffler shop and be happy
>>> enough with what they can do.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Ernie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Axel Wulff
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560 SEC cracked engine block . . .
>>> Deturned Engines?
>>>
>>> Hey Ernie,
>>>
>>> Yes, the North American engines were seriously de-tuned compared
>>> to their Euro brethren.
>>>
>>> The US 5.6L M117 V8 put out only 238 hp while the Euro ECE engine
>>> was rated at 300 hp.
>>>
>>> Getting more power out of the US engine is very difficult as the
>>> pistons, camshafts, fuel distributor, exhaust, etc., would have to
>>> be swapped out.
>>>
>>> Your best option on a US engine is to change the differential.
>>> Changing out the US exhaust system can add about 10 hp, but other
>>> than that......
>>>
>>> Have you checked out your kick-down switch?
>>> There is a switch underneath the accelerator pedal and your
>>> transmission should downshift when it engages. If it doesn't, the
>>> problem may be as simple as a disconnected wire.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Axel J. Wulff
>>> 610-731-5453 Cellular
>>> 610-572-4611 Home
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: stevetsg at msn.com
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 21:20:43 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560 SEC cracked engine block . . .
>>> Deturned Engines?
>>>
>>> Axel,
>>>
>>> If I understand what you're saying, the M117 has been detuned for
>>> the USA market? That would explain why performance is somewhat
>>> unimpressive. I have a hunch that that there is another 15% to
>>> 25% of thrust just waiting to be unleashed hiding under the hood.
>>>
>>> There was a time when I could floor the pedal and I'd get a boost
>>> as if it had been kicked down into passing gear. But even then
>>> it didn't seem right; there was a 2 to 3 sec delay before that
>>> boost kicked in. I'm not into flooring the pedal but it is nice
>>> to know that you have the extra power available if you need it.
>>> It seems to me that I lost that passing gear feature when
>>> components of my air conditioner were removed and replaced. Have
>>> you or anyone else reading this ever experienced anything like this?
>>>
>>> Ernie
>>> I
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Axel Wulff
>>> To: diefenbach at kingcon.com ; mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560 SEC cracked engine block
>>>
>>> Dick,
>>>
>>> Mercedes-Benz made a number of different versions of the M117
>>> engine, depending on the various national rules & regulations
>>> around the world.
>>>
>>> The engines would also evolve over the life of the W126 cars as
>>> better technology came available.
>>>
>>> The three major groups are:
>>> - Euro, high-compression, high emissions, high horsepower
>>> - North America, mid-compression, low emissions with catalytic
>>> converters and air pumps (California), low horsepower
>>> - Very low compression engines for primitive countries (Africa,
>>> China, etc.) with very low quality gasoline. About the same output
>>> as the North American engines.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Axel J. Wulff
>>> 610-731-5453 Cellular
>>> 610-572-4611 Home
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: diefenbach at kingcon.com
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:40:26 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560 SEC cracked engine block
>>>
>>> I find Marcus' experience intriguing. However, I am wondering if
>>> anyone can tell me about all the major differences between US &
>>> Euro (would this include Australian and Asian) SEC engines?
>>>
>>> Dick
>>> Danville, VT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very interesting story, Marcus.
>>>
>>> I think it's for very different reasons than my problem - I have
>>> had no rough idling, my
>>> engine was running 100% for more than three years of ownership (I
>>> am the second owner),
>>> and it's almost certainly driving without coolant (caused by a
>>> head gasket failure) that
>>> caused my block to crack.
>>>
>>> Glad your story had a happy ending, as I hope mine will!
>>>
>>> all the best,
>>> Dawid
>>>
>>> On 06 Nov 2010, at 12:36 AM, Marcus Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> This is an interesting thread for me as I also had a cracked
>>> engine block.
>>>
>>> I wonder if there are any parallels in Dawid's case?
>>>
>>> It was as a result of mechanical ineptitude, not wear and tear or
>>> engine stress.
>>>
>>> The 'experts' agreed that they had never heard of such a thing and
>>> that the blocks are pretty bulletproof.
>>>
>>> I have an Australian-delivered 1989 560 SEC. Blue-black with grey
>>> interior, lowered on H&R's and with 18x10 / 18 x 8.5 18" AMG rims.
>>>
>>> In my case, this all began after the car began idling roughly.
>>> After several things were tried, the diagnosis by Mechanic #1 was
>>> that the heads needed to be reconditioned.
>>>
>>> They were pulled and found to be very clogged. The car had less
>>> than 100k but the previous owner had only ever driven in town at
>>> low speeds and not for long periods.
>>>
>>> After machining, they were put back on the engine and everything
>>> that could also be replaced such as old, deteriorating rubber
>>> parts was done at the same time. I expected a smooth idle. But
>>> this never happened even after a lot of mucking around. The
>>> mechanic believed that the exhaust manifold was warped and wanted
>>> to bring in an engineer to check it.
>>>
>>> By now, I had had enough and the expenses were piling up. This
>>> just didn't seem to make sense. I continued to drive the car and
>>> just felt generally cheated and pissed off.
>>>
>>> I then took the car to Mechanic #2 who was a 'German car expert'.
>>> He looked over the car and showed me that the heads (and the
>>> exhaust manifolds) had not been tightened correctly and in places
>>> were almost finger tight. So much for following the correct MB
>>> tightening method.
>>>
>>> As a result, the heads had been allowing enough air in between the
>>> block to cause the rough idle. No problem, we can have them
>>> machined and dressed (again) and all should be fine. The heads
>>> were sent off again and came back with lovely flat and shiny decks.
>>>
>>> Once bolted on, the rough idle was better but certainly not 'glass
>>> smooth'. He had bad news. The block, most likely as a result of
>>> the heads 'walking', had cracked. This may or may not have been
>>> repairable, but the engine would need to be pulled down and
>>> everything carefully examined. Many hours, many dollars.
>>>
>>> The alternative was to find a replacement or reconditioned engine.
>>> Fortunately, one was located and installed. And again, my
>>> expectation was for as-new performance, idle and overall
>>> enjoyment. Nope, still idling rough but just in a different way.
>>> By now, six months had elapsed and both my patience and bank
>>> balance were wearing thin.
>>>
>>> After more inspection, diagnosis and head-scratching, Mechanic#2
>>> declared through his bristly German moustache that he 'vas happy'.
>>> Really, what he was saying was 'go away'. I went.
>>>
>>> After parking the car in disillusionment for some time, I spied a
>>> local MB mechanic and went in for a chat. This guy asked that I
>>> tell him little and leave the car with him to go through his
>>> checklist. After some time, he came back with a solution. It had
>>> been driving him nuts and he was unable to sleep at night. I had
>>> actually been sold a high-compression Euro block as a replacement.
>>> Which made sense when he did a compression check and the numbers
>>> were higher than usual for the de-tuned Australian blocks.
>>>
>>> The engine and the electronic management systems were from
>>> different parts of the world (no emissions controls for Euro
>>> motors that were mandatory in Australia, for instance) and were
>>> unable to talk to each other. He developed some work-arounds and
>>> the engine and electronic are now on speaking terms. The car idles
>>> smoothly and is quick off the mark, much more so than with the
>>> Australian 560 SEC engine.
>>>
>>> So, this has been a long, arduous and expensive exercise.
>>>
>>> So yes, a cracked engine block is a possibility. I know, from
>>> painful experience.
>>>
>>> My advice is to find a mechanic who knows these cars. They will
>>> all say they do and have words like 'Mercedes-Benz specialist' on
>>> a board outside their workshop. But finding the real deal is hard.
>>> you will probably know by a couple of indicators: they will be in
>>> their 50's and their apprenticeship years will have been in the
>>> 1980's. And they will be busy and probably not need the work so
>>> you may have to wait while they personally service a long queue of
>>> MB owners who have discovered them.
>>>
>>> My other advice is to think carefully about cutting your losses. I
>>> know you love your car, as I do, but this stuff becomes the
>>> equivalent of a second mortgage.
>>>
>>> Hope you get a good result.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> marcus johnson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: 560SEC cracked engine block - how?? (Dean Slone)
>>> 2. Re: 560SEC cracked engine block - how?? (Dawid Loubser)
>>> 3. So, I need a M117.968 Block and Pistons -
>>> www.mercedesengines.net opinions? (Dawid Loubser)
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:01:04 -0700
>>> From: "Dean Slone" <daslone at saber.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC cracked engine block - how??
>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>>>
>>> Sorry for your troubles but maybe we can help each other.
>>>
>>> I do not know where you are located but one of your options might
>>> be to buy
>>> my 1981 500SEC, chassis 000474.
>>>
>>> Some particulars on my car at:
>>>
>>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1446405-1983-euro-500-sec-lorinser-post.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't let the 1983 vin number fool you as it has all US officials
>>> for 27
>>> years. If anyone in Germany has access to old registration
>>> records and vin
>>> numbers, I would like to know who owned WDB12604412000474 in
>>> 1983-1984,
>>> BEFORE being imported to the US of A. Interpol is not
>>> interested as I am
>>> not a police official.
>>>
>>> No rust through or major damage, just small dings that I have
>>> found. Rusty
>>> spots are only surface caused by cracks in the paint. Come and
>>> get it, I am
>>> ready to deal.
>>>
>>> DazzleOne (DASlone)
>>>
>>> SLONE REALTY
>>> DEAN SLONE - Broker/Owner
>>> P.O. Box 5291 - Eureka, CA 95502
>>> Broker at SloneRealty.com
>>> daslone at saber.net
>>> (707) 499-4999
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dawid Loubser" <dawidl at solms.co.za>
>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC cracked engine block - how??
>>>
>>>
>>> Attila, if what you are saying is correct, that's likely
>>> the cause. Its very possible that enough coolant escaped while
>>> I moved the car to a safe spot for this to happen.
>>>
>>> Darn, an expensive lesson to learn! I'm going to survey my
>>> options and contact some people after the week-end.
>>>
>>> Dawid
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04 Nov 2010, at 11:02 PM, Attila wrote:
>>>
>>> You were likely down on your coolant, quite a bit. Your
>>> warning light should have come on, long before the block
>>> cracked. You can run these 117 engines for 30 seconds,
>>> without any coolant. That's it, no more. In the States
>>> there are about 3 reputable rebuilders who will take yours
>>> as exchange and send you a rebuild, at around $5k to 6k.
>>> They may be able to build you a Euro version, for about
>>> the same. It's worth asking, in these economic times. Of
>>> course, it would be great fun to custom build your own.
>>> I wouldn't take a chance on any of the original parts,
>>> even if all tests come back positive.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com ]
>>> On Behalf Of Dawid Loubser
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:34 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC cracked engine block - how??
>>>
>>> Well, it's happened -
>>>
>>> Without any particular overheating, or other problems, my regularly-
>>> maintained
>>> 1990 560SEC Euro has developed a crack in the engine block (my
>>> mechanic just showed
>>> it to me today) and thus needs to be replaced (at immense cost,
>>> obviously). He will
>>> present the options to me tomorrow. Basically, my car did start to
>>> overheat, and steamed
>>> out of the exhaust, but I immediately stopped driving the car, and
>>> towed it to my local
>>> specialist. I can't believe it overheated for long enough to cause
>>> this sort of damage,
>>> I barely expected a ruptured head gasket.
>>>
>>> This all comes as a bit of a shock to me, I know this is going to be
>>> incredibly expensive
>>> to sort out. I would like some opinion from the experts around
>>> here -
>>> has this happened to
>>> you? Why would this happen?
>>>
>>> I am looking at other options, such as simply finding a good other
>>> engine (which I might
>>> have a good lead on) - but honestly speaking, I am still in a bit of
>>> shock.
>>>
>>> kind regards to you all (I've been a lurker on this wonderful list
>>> for
>>> a *long* time - too long,
>>> in fact)
>>>
>>> Dawid
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 21:14:35 +0200
>>> From: Dawid Loubser <dawidl at solms.co.za>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC cracked engine block - how??
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>>> Thank you Dean - you are not the first list member to contact me
>>> with
>>> an offer
>>> to sell his car to me! Fact is, I have no intention of getting rid
>>> of
>>> my SEC, and
>>> even the most expensive engine repair job will not cost as much as
>>> replacing
>>> my (mint) 1990 560SEC.
>>>
>>> Also, as per my original e-mail, I am in South Africa, so it's not
>>> possible for me
>>> to bring a whole car over here (though I might have to get a rebuilt
>>> engine block
>>> from the US!) and I really wouldn't trade my car for an earlier-
>>> generation SEC.
>>>
>>> all the best,
>>> Dawid
>>>
>>> On 05 Nov 2010, at 6:01 PM, Dean Slone wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for your troubles but maybe we can help each other.
>>>
>>> I do not know where you are located but one of your options might be
>>> to buy my 1981 500SEC, chassis 000474.
>>>
>>> Some particulars on my car at:
>>>
>>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1446405-1983-euro-500-sec-lorinser-post.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't let the 1983 vin number fool you as it has all US officials
>>> for 27 years. If anyone in Germany has access to old registration
>>> records and vin numbers, I would like to know who owned
>>> WDB12604412000474 in 1983-1984, BEFORE being imported to the US of
>>> A. Interpol is not interested as I am not a police official.
>>>
>>> No rust through or major damage, just small dings that I have
>>> found. Rusty spots are only surface caused by cracks in the paint.
>>> Come and get it, I am ready to deal.
>>>
>>> DazzleOne (DASlone)
>>>
>>> SLONE REALTY
>>> DEAN SLONE - Broker/Owner
>>> P.O. Box 5291 - Eureka, CA 95502
>>> Broker at SloneRealty.com
>>> daslone at saber.net
>>> (707) 499-4999
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawid Loubser"
>>> <dawidl at solms.co.za>
>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC cracked engine block - how??
>>>
>>>
>>> Attila, if what you are saying is correct, that's likely
>>> the cause. Its very possible that enough coolant escaped while
>>> I moved the car to a safe spot for this to happen.
>>>
>>> Darn, an expensive lesson to learn! I'm going to survey my
>>> options and contact some people after the week-end.
>>>
>>> Dawid
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04 Nov 2010, at 11:02 PM, Attila wrote:
>>>
>>> You were likely down on your coolant, quite a bit. Your
>>> warning light should have come on, long before the block
>>> cracked. You can run these 117 engines for 30 seconds,
>>> without any coolant. That's it, no more. In the States
>>> there are about 3 reputable rebuilders who will take yours
>>> as exchange and send you a rebuild, at around $5k to 6k.
>>> They may be able to build you a Euro version, for about
>>> the same. It's worth asking, in these economic times. Of
>>> course, it would be great fun to custom build your own.
>>> I wouldn't take a chance on any of the original parts,
>>> even if all tests come back positive.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Dawid Loubser
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:34 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC cracked engine block - how??
>>>
>>> Well, it's happened -
>>>
>>> Without any particular overheating, or other problems, my regularly-
>>> maintained
>>> 1990 560SEC Euro has developed a crack in the engine block (my
>>> mechanic just showed
>>> it to me today) and thus needs to be replaced (at immense cost,
>>> obviously). He will
>>> present the options to me tomorrow. Basically, my car did start to
>>> overheat, and steamed
>>> out of the exhaust, but I immediately stopped driving the car, and
>>> towed it to my local
>>> specialist. I can't believe it overheated for long enough to cause
>>> this sort of damage,
>>> I barely expected a ruptured head gasket.
>>>
>>> This all comes as a bit of a shock to me, I know this is going to be
>>> incredibly expensive
>>> to sort out. I would like some opinion from the experts around
>>> here -
>>> has this happened to
>>> you? Why would this happen?
>>>
>>> I am looking at other options, such as simply finding a good other
>>> engine (which I might
>>> have a good lead on) - but honestly speaking, I am still in a bit of
>>> shock.
>>>
>>> kind regards to you all (I've been a lurker on this wonderful list
>>> for
>>> a *long* time - too long,
>>> in fact)
>>>
>>> Dawid
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>>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 21:33:08 +0200
>>> From: Dawid Loubser <dawidl at solms.co.za>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] So, I need a M117.968 Block and Pistons -
>>> www.mercedesengines.net
>>> opinions?
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>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> While I am working on local options, I am pre-emptively also having
>>> a look at sourcing a replacement (remanufactured) block and pistons
>>> overseas (U.S?) for my 560SEC engine that developed a cracked block
>>> after the head gasket ruptured.
>>>
>>> What are your opinions of http://www.mercedesengines.net ? Any other
>>> sources
>>> I should be looking at for a decent price? I am sure that shipping
>>> it to
>>> South Africa will be very expensive, but there are usually many
>>> options,
>>> depending on whom one contacts, especially if one can get it
>>> included
>>> as part of a shipment of somebody who regularly brings in engine
>>> parts,
>>> so I am not too worried yet.
>>>
>>> Any opinions and suggested would be greatly welcomed. Help me get
>>> her
>>> up and running again!
>>>
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>>> Dawid
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