[W126 Coupe] 560SEC top-end rebuild

[Jonathan Hodgman]

If only it were that Simple...:-P

jono
Josh Allen wrote:

> Gerry,

>

> I'm not sure just how bad the cam is that prompted this work, but if 

> you can't find a new cam at a reasonable price, you might check in the 

> possibility of getting it reground.

>

> In my area, we have Delta Cams who do custom grinds for the racing 

> community, and when I talked to them a while back said that they had 

> some MB cam grind specs, but I didn't ask anything about 560 cams, as 

> I was working on a 500.

> At the time, I believe their rate was $25 per surface worked, but they 

> may have different rates now, or possibly different 'complete cam' job 

> lot prices.

> http://www.deltacam.com/index.php

>

> I'm certain that there are other companies that perform similar work, 

> I'd just heard about this shop, and been surprised when I found out 

> that they were local.

>

> -Josh

>

>

> On 3/16/2010 12:03 PM, Gerry Van Zandt wrote:

>>

>> Hi Steve,

>>

>> It's not so much how the bolts come out, it's when they go back in 

>> that you find the need for heli-coiling.

>>

>> Most all the head bolts have come out just fine. One side I soaked 

>> overnight with penetrating oil and the other side I didn't. I'd say 

>> that the soaked side came out about 30-40% easier than the non-soaked 

>> ones. That said, even with the non-soaked ones, they were pretty easy 

>> to do with just a modest breaker bar.

>>

>> The two rear-most bolts on the sides of the heads nearest the 

>> firewall are the worst, just because of the lack of room to get at 

>> them. Chet recommends in his write-up removing the inner firewall 

>> sections, but I found that I didn't need to do this at least for 

>> removing them. The factory procedure didn't mention this either. 

>> However, for torquedown, I probably will need to so that I can get a 

>> better angle on them with the torque wrench.

>>

>> For the toasted cam, I'm getting my hands on a good used 560 cam, and 

>> I will replace all of the 8 rocker arms on that side. I will keep and 

>> use the lifters becuase they appeared to be just fine. It looks like 

>> the cam issue was caused by a lubrication problem, so I will closely 

>> examine the oiler tube on that side for cracked oilers or caps that 

>> supply oil to the holes where it flows down onto the cam lobes and 

>> into the cam bearings. These caps and oilers are very cheap and easy 

>> to replace when it's all apart.

>>

>> ALso, my chain rails, tensioner rail and timing chain all have 60K 

>> miles on them, but I'm just going to replace all of them out of hand 

>> because they'll never be as accessible as they are right now. Also 

>> the two rear heater hoses into the firewall - they've got to be 

>> original and their rubber isn't getting any fresher....

>>

>> I cracked the vacuum hose that goes from the brake booster to the 

>> intake manifold (a $95 hose) so will have to replace that, and I saw 

>> some outside surface cracks in the two fuel lines that go to the fuel 

>> cooler, so those are getting replaced too. The idle slide 

>> valve-to-intake hose cracked in my hand, so obviously that's getting 

>> replaced; the idle air injection hoses are around 60K miles old as 

>> well, but I will replace those too becuase the injectors are out and 

>> everything is right there for the reassembly.

>>

>> Basically a top-end rebuild is an excellent opportunity to replace 

>> all soft parts, hoses and vacuum lines. Hell, even the motor mounts 

>> are easily accessible with the manifolds off the heads !! If I'm 

>> motivated, I may even do those although I know my current ones are 

>> good. Unlike the 500E, which has hydraulically-damped motor mounts, 

>> the 560's mounts are simple&  cheap.

>>

>> There is no better way to learn about how the 560SEC works than to 

>> just carefully and patiently take it apart, and put it together. 

>> Really gives you a feel for the engineering of the cars and their 

>> complexity, even 25 years ago ! Much nicer to work on than modern 

>> cars. Makes you feel like you're really doing something instead of 

>> sitting at a computer screen or pulling codes. No handheld-testers or 

>> Star Diagnostic Systems in sight when doing head work !!!

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Gerry

>>

>>

>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2010, at 

>> 11:15AM,<mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>  wrote:

>>   

>>> Hi, Gerry, nice to hear from you again. Looks like a great project 

>>> that you are on - great write-up and photos in Espot, too.

>>>

>>> How have the head bolts been coming out? Any problems and do you 

>>> foresee having to put inserts into the block?

>>>

>>> Steve

>>>      

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