[W126 Coupe] 560 sec need signal switch

[Jim Huntress]

After all the work did I took the car to Coral Springs this weekend and the turn signals went out they work if I fool with the switch. I understand that they are connected with the flasher relay but that is good. Does anybody have one for sale. Thanks Jim

 

From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mark Foster
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:21 PM
To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 82' 380SEC - Clear Side Markers

 

Hi,

 

Can anyone suggest where I can buy Clear Side Markers for my 82’  380SEC ?

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Dean Slone
Sent: June 19, 2009 1:21 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes

 

Thanks Markus,

 

Because the car was sitting awhile, I think I want to drain the gas first and change the filter before running any distance.  I have been reading about injector additives.

 

Any suggestions there?

 

Dean

 

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From: Markus Meyer <mailto:mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com>  

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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:20 PM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes

 

If it was my car (and I just did this with a similar experience on my wife's car), I'd contact Jonathan on this list, check out his website:

 

www.blueridgemb.com

 

He can get you the right hoses, filters, belts, etc.

 

I'd get the car running first to warm it up a bit, makes fluid draining a little easier.

 

I personally use/like Amsoil synthetic products, but there are many other good ones out there.

 

Change the engine oil and filter (8.5 quarts).

Change trans oil and filter/gasket (about 13-14 quarts).

Change the diff fluid - no filter, about 1.5-2 quarts.  Make sure to open the fill plug FIRST before the drain plug!

Change the power steering fluid and filter - about 2-4 quarts to flush that out.

Change the radiator coolant - about 2 gallons of Zerex G05 or MB coolant mixed with water 50/50.

Note sure if you have SLS suspension, if so, change that fluid/filter as well.

 

Markus Meyer

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484-919-9762 

 

 

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Subject: [W126 Coupe] 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes
From: "Dean Slone" <daslone at saber.net>
Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 2:58 pm
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

 

Does anyone have a list of part numbers and quantities of items needed to service a 500sec before operating the first time?

 

Engine Oil - Transmission - Radiator - Differential - Gasoline - Brakes - Rotors - Hoses - Belts

 

I want to give the mechanicals the best chance to stay good.

 

The car sat for over a year before I got it and I don't want to just start it and drive it without setting up a maintenance beginning point.  There are no (zero) records associated with the car.

 

Any suggestions as to what to do and which products to use?

 

Thanks Dean

 

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From: Dean <mailto:daslone at saber.net>  Slone 

To: jhodgman at gmail.com ; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:29

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged

 

I read the same thing Jonathan.  Can't recall if it was here or benzworld.  The comments were something about viscosity.  The new fluid too slick and not shifting properyl.  I will try to find the posts.

 

Dean

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From: Jonathan Hodgman <mailto:blueridgemb at gmail.com>  

To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:55

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged

 

Who commented as such?  if you are doing a 'normal' trans service you replace about 95% of the fluid when you drain the pan, TC'er and change the filter.  

Jonathan

Mark Foster wrote: 

Is there any truth to the comment I heard that you don’t replace all of the tranny fluid?

From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Markus Meyer
Sent: June 19, 2009 10:45 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged

Glad you are finding what you needed!

Yes, never know once you get it running. I'd probably suggest changing all fluids/filters and drive to see what's up.  Get a tank of good gas in there with some fuel injection cleaner such as BG44K or something similar.

Good luck!

Markus Meyer

 <mailto:mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com> mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com

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Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
From: "Mark Foster" mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com
Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 1:31 pm
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

Markus et al,

I took the battery I have to a Interstate battery dealer. Would you believe it was a few minutes down the street and I live in a little coastal community just south of Vancouver? Amazing – anyway I digress!

I turns out there was a distinct absence of acid in the battery – so a new one was ordered this morning at $160 Canadian.

Thanks for your help. As the car has not been running for awhile, there may still be issues to comes. So… I might b posting to this forum again in the very near future!

Thank you,

Mark

From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes..com> ] On Behalf Of Markus Meyer
Sent: June 19, 2009 2:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged

Mark,

Check out Interstate Batteries, I believe the website is www.interstatebatteries.com <http://www.interstatebatteries.com/> .  You can search for a local dealer/distributor.  I have been using their batteries in all my vehicles with excellent success.

For the future if you plan to leave a battery unattended that long, I'd suggest a trickle charger of some sort, such as a battery tender.  They can get totally discharged from sitting and this is not good for them, even if fairly new.

Markus Meyer

mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com

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Meyer Probate & Properties, LLC

484-919-9762 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
charged
From: "Mark Foster" mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com
Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 12:40 am
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

Hi again,

In the event I need to buy a battery, is there anyone on this forum (
possibly in Canada ) that might know where I can get a replacement battery
for a 1982 380SEC other than the Vancouver dealer?

Thanks,

Mark

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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose]
On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch
Sent: June 18, 2009 9:09 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged

Mark,
Unlike a 57 Chevy or 57 Mercedes any car from the 80s on up draws a 
lot of volts even when just sitting.
Alternators do not go bad from sitting.
I have had batteries that give off false information.
If you have another car that you could take the battery out of 
would be the simplest way to go for a test.

You could also take the car for a good ride with the "old" battery 
of an hour and see what happens when you try to restart...at home in 
the driveway
keep cruisin
Jay
On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Mark Foster wrote:


> Jay,

>

> The battery was about a year old before the coma set in.

>

> I will check the resting and running voltage and report back.

>

> Any thanks - Jay - Dick & An,

>

> Mark

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes- 

> bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch

> Sent: June 18, 2009 8:16 PM

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged

>

> Alternators do not go bad from sitting

> How old was the battery prior to the one year the car was in a 

> coma?

> Buy a new battery

> Jay H

> On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Dick Spellman wrote:

>

>> Hi Mark,

>>

>> check battery resting voltage (engine off)...check battery voltage

>> with engine running..then report these two readings to list

>>

>> Regards,

>> Dick

>>

>> Mark Foster wrote:

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> I suspect this is an alternator issue - but I thought I better ask

>>> the

>>> expects in this forum.

>>> My 380 SEC has not been running for about a year. I went out and

>>> started it

>>> today and after a 20 minute jump it started but I had to turn the

>>> key a

>>> number of times as it seemed as though it would not always catch. 

>>> The

>>> dashboard starting lights would illuminate but there was just a

>>> click sound

>>> and then nothing. So I gave it a few more minutes - tried again -

>>> and this

>>> time it started. I gave it a few minutes running, then shut it off.

>>> Naturally it would not start again ( actually was surprised the

>>> old girl

>>> started for me in the first place) so another jump and the same

>>> scenario -

>>> clicks - then finally it caught and roared to life. This time I

>>> let it run

>>> for half an hour - watching all the gauges ( seemed normal ) -

>>> then went

>>> for a very short drive. Up and down my street - just in case ;-)

>>> So I finally turned it off and - guess what? Nothing! The battery

>>> seems fine

>>> as I had it on charge for a few days before attempting this. So, 

>>> I am

>>> guessing the next natural trouble shooting progression would be the

>>> alternator?

>>> Thoughts/comments greatly appreciated.

>>>

>>> Mark ( Vancouver - Canada )

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-

>>> bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>>> On Behalf Of kabed1980 at yahoo.com

>>> Sent: June 17, 2009 5:14 PM

>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)

>>>

>>> When I finally got to my 560after 7 years of sitting not running I

>>> finally

>>> got to u got it running bitter then new I had the run in with the

>>> alternator

>>> same description Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: "Iain Gunn" mailto:igunn at bmts.com

>>>

>>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:08:54 To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing

>>> Listsmailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)

>>>

>>>

>>> Here, let me tell you another one that will throw you.

>>> Speedometer starts bouncing all over the place, all gages start

>>> going erratic, everything starts shutting down, blower motor goes

>>> on to high heat.

>>>

>>> Think you're in the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" movie?

>>>

>>> Brushes in the alternator, or alternator.

>>>

>>> Anyone got more for the new guy?

>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Afzaal Khan.M"

>>> mailto:afzaal53 at gmail.com

>>> To: "Vance Rowley" mailto:vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk; "Mercedes Coupes

>>> Mailing Lists" mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:04 PM

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Great! fault diagnosed and rectified.

>>>> mak

>>>>

>>>> On 16/06/2009, Vance Rowley mailto:vance.rowley at tiscali.co..uk wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Yes, at last, confirmed. Received my new OVP relay this morning

>>>>> and before

>>>>> the delivery truck had driven away, I had the parcel ripped open

>>>>> and fitted

>>>>> the relay. My thoughts as I was about to turn the ignition key

>>>>> was "well,

>>>>> here goes" But as soon as I did, I could tell that this is it,

>>>>> as the engine

>>>>> started immediately and the ABS/ASR warning lights went out. It

>>>>> used to take

>>>>> around 10 seconds or more of the engine turning over to start

>>>>> with the old

>>>>> relay. The engine was very smooth and no stumble or hesitation

>>>>> when revving

>>>>> the engine. The idle was fine also.

>>>>> I know that the OVP gets blamed for everything, but it looks

>>>>> like if you

>>>>> have the 4 symptoms all at the same time.

>>>>> 1. Takes a long time to start

>>>>> 2. High Idle

>>>>> 3. ABS/ASR warning lights remain on.

>>>>> 4. Rough running of the engine.

>>>>> Then it looks like the problem is almost certainly the OVP

>>>>> relay. Of course

>>>>> it is possible that the fuse is just blown, but if that is OK

>>>>> (as mine was)

>>>>> then a new OVP should be the next step.

>>>>>

>>>>> For those who want to have a go at repairing the relay, from

>>>>> what I have

>>>>> discovered along with input from this group, it looks like if

>>>>> you get all

>>>>> symptoms at the same time, then as long as the fuse, relay coil,

>>>>> contacts

>>>>> and solder joints are OK, then the most likely culprit is the 

>>>>> diode

>>>>> connected between pin# 15 and the relay coil. It is unlikely

>>>>> that the zener

>>>>> diode is the problem, as this would more likely blow the fuse if

>>>>> the zener

>>>>> was at fault. If you get only 1 or 2 of the above symptoms, then

>>>>> a solder

>>>>> joint (or more) would be most likely.But of course when you get

>>>>> only 1 or

>>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>> 2

>>>>> of the symptoms, say for example the ABS warning light on, then

>>>>> it's

>>>>> possible the OVP is fine and that the problem could be the ABS

>>>>> computer

>>>>> itself. It's understandable that the OVP gets blamed for

>>>>> everything, but is

>>>>> certainly the first thing to check.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks again to everyone who gave their input.

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>

>>>>> Vance.

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