[W126 Coupe] Battery drain
Dan Gardner
cruftsk9 at tpg.com.au
Sun Jun 21 06:31:45 EDT 2009
Hi Folks
As a general check on running voltage,I have a modified cigarette lighter
plug that takes two leads from a Fluke digital multimeter set to volts which
I set up inside the car on the centre console,voltage can then be observed
while driving with various pieces of electrical components in use.I find it
quite useful and if you have a few vehicles easy to transfer from car to
car.
Kind Regards Dan 1986 560SEC (220KW)
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> From: "Stein Stromsoe" <Stromsoe at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Outside airtemp gauge
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> My outside tempratue gauge is counting up and down on its own.
> A nice 65F day, and it is indicating 100-119F. Then at times opposite.
> Never
> correct.
> I have replaced the convenience control module previously (1 year ago due
> to
> sunroof issue)
> Not sure if this is controlled by that unit.
> Up until this spring it was just fine.
> Help.
>
> Stein
> 92 400E
> 86 500SEC - RIP
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:47:22 -0400
> From: Jonathan Hodgman <blueridgemb at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Outside airtemp gauge
> To: Stein Stromsoe <Stromsoe at earthlink.net>, Mercedes Coupes Mailing
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> Changing out the temp sensor would be your cheapest and best hope...
> Otherwise it's the module/display in the dash which is Pricey.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Stein Stromsoe wrote:
>>
>> My outside tempratue gauge is counting up and down on its own.
>> A nice 65F day, and it is indicating 100-119F. Then at times opposite.
>> Never correct.
>> I have replaced the convenience control module previously (1 year ago
>> due to sunroof issue)
>> Not sure if this is controlled by that unit.
>> Up until this spring it was just fine.
>> Help.
>>
>> Stein
>> 92 400E
>> 86 500SEC - RIP
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> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:06:43 +0000
> From: "Jay Manek" <sales at mercland.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Outside airtemp gauge
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> It will be the sensor.. A used one is actually easier as you can snip the
> wire under the front bumper and rejoin the new sensor. Otherwise the wire
> goes all the way to the cabin.
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Hodgman <blueridgemb at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:47:22
> To: Stein Stromsoe<Stromsoe at earthlink.net>; Mercedes Coupes Mailing
> Lists<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Outside airtemp gauge
>
>
> Changing out the temp sensor would be your cheapest and best hope...
> Otherwise it's the module/display in the dash which is Pricey.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Stein Stromsoe wrote:
>>
>> My outside tempratue gauge is counting up and down on its own.
>> A nice 65F day, and it is indicating 100-119F. Then at times opposite.
>> Never correct.
>> I have replaced the convenience control module previously (1 year ago
>> due to sunroof issue)
>> Not sure if this is controlled by that unit.
>> Up until this spring it was just fine.
>> Help.
>>
>> Stein
>> 92 400E
>> 86 500SEC - RIP
>> The MB Coupes Website!
>> W126 SEC Mailing List
>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
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> 88 300E AMG
> 89 190E 2.6 5sp (Mosselman TT waiting..)
> 89 300TE
> 88 560SEC AMG Euro ECE (parts)
> 89 560SEC AMG solid lifter 7K RPM Conv.
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> Best way to find a short is to take out fuses 1 at a time with the test
> light connected between battery & ground cable . first to test are the
> door
> switches . the only pitfall is becker radio . there is a chance you will
> lose the code . HTH
>
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> 1. Re: 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> (Jonathan Hodgman)
> 2. BATTERY DRAIN (clay)
> 3. Re: 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes (Dean Slone)
> 4. Re: 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes (Markus Meyer)
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:18:53 -0400
> From: Jonathan Hodgman <blueridgemb at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:59:12 -0700
> From: "clay" <benzman3 at cox.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
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> Hi Guys,
> Out of hospital again, it's getting to be like going to get the SEC fixed.
> Broke ankle on both sides and couldn't get surgery do to the block cloth
> that made me fall. Enough of that, I and my son still can't find drain but
> when I went to start the last few times the wipers come on for a couple of
> sweeps, Could the drain be in ignition switch or the stalk or horns or
> column ? The shop I used to tune the 450SLC for emissions test charges
> $89.00 per hour. I guess I'm wondering how long a Mercedes shop w/trained
> mechanics would take to locate drain (ball park). Is there a plug in for
> codes on a 1988 SEC ? Any info highly appreciated especially Dick, He's
> helped me alot.
> Thanks Alot,
> Clayton Moizo
> Scottsdale,AZ
> If anyone wants to call in in bed again for at least another month or 2.
> Home 480.368.1217
> Cell 480.268.0791
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:20:59 -0700
> From: "Dean Slone" <daslone at saber.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Thanks Markus,
>
> Because the car was sitting awhile, I think I want to drain the gas first
> and change the filter before running any distance. I have been reading
> about injector additives.
>
> Any suggestions there?
>
> Dean
>
> SLONE REALTY
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Markus Meyer
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes
>
>
> If it was my car (and I just did this with a similar experience on my
> wife's car), I'd contact Jonathan on this list, check out his website:
>
> www.blueridgemb.com
>
> He can get you the right hoses, filters, belts, etc.
>
> I'd get the car running first to warm it up a bit, makes fluid draining a
> little easier.
>
> I personally use/like Amsoil synthetic products, but there are many other
> good ones out there.
>
> Change the engine oil and filter (8.5 quarts).
> Change trans oil and filter/gasket (about 13-14 quarts).
> Change the diff fluid - no filter, about 1.5-2 quarts. Make sure to open
> the fill plug FIRST before the drain plug!
> Change the power steering fluid and filter - about 2-4 quarts to flush
> that out.
> Change the radiator coolant - about 2 gallons of Zerex G05 or MB coolant
> mixed with water 50/50.
> Note sure if you have SLS suspension, if so, change that fluid/filter as
> well.
>
> Markus Meyer
> mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com
> www.meyerprobateproperties.com
> Meyer Probate & Properties, LLC
> 484-919-9762
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes
> From: "Dean Slone" <daslone at saber.net>
> Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 2:58 pm
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>
> ?
> Does anyone have a list of part numbers and quantities of items needed
> to service a 500sec before operating the first time?
>
> Engine Oil - Transmission - Radiator - Differential - Gasoline - Brakes
> - Rotors - Hoses - Belts
>
> I want to give the mechanicals the best chance to stay good.
>
> The car sat for over a year before I got it and I don't want to just
> start it and drive it without setting up a maintenance beginning point.
> There are no (zero) records associated with the car.
>
> Any suggestions as to what to do and which products to use?
>
> Thanks Dean
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dean Slone
> To: jhodgman at gmail.com ; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:29
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
>
>
> I read the same thing Jonathan. Can't recall if it was here or
> benzworld. The comments were something about viscosity. The new fluid
> too
> slick and not shifting properyl. I will try to find the posts.
>
> Dean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jonathan Hodgman
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:55
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
>
>
> Who commented as such? if you are doing a 'normal' trans service
> you replace about 95% of the fluid when you drain the pan, TC'er and
> change
> the filter.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Mark Foster wrote:
> Is there any truth to the comment I heard that you don?t replace
> all of the tranny fluid?
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Markus Meyer
> Sent: June 19, 2009 10:45 AM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
> Glad you are finding what you needed!
> Yes, never know once you get it running. I'd probably suggest
> changing all fluids/filters and drive to see what's up. Get a tank of
> good
> gas in there with some fuel injection cleaner such as BG44K or something
> similar.
> Good luck!
> Markus Meyer
> mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com
> www.meyerprobateproperties.com
> Meyer Probate & Properties, LLC
> 484-919-9762
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
> From: "Mark Foster" mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com
> Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 1:31 pm
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"
> mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>
> Markus et al,
> I took the battery I have to a Interstate battery dealer. Would
> you believe it was a few minutes down the street and I live in a little
> coastal community just south of Vancouver? Amazing ? anyway I digress!
> I turns out there was a distinct absence of acid in the battery
> ? so a new one was ordered this morning at $160 Canadian.
> Thanks for your help. As the car has not been running for
> awhile, there may still be issues to comes. So? I might b posting to this
> forum again in the very near future!
> Thank you,
> Mark
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Markus Meyer
> Sent: June 19, 2009 2:49 AM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
> Mark,
> Check out Interstate Batteries, I believe the website is
> www.interstatebatteries.com. You can search for a local
> dealer/distributor.
> I have been using their batteries in all my vehicles with excellent
> success.
> For the future if you plan to leave a battery unattended that
> long, I'd suggest a trickle charger of some sort, such as a battery
> tender.
> They can get totally discharged from sitting and this is not good for
> them,
> even if fairly new.
> Markus Meyer
> mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com
> www.meyerprobateproperties.com
> Meyer Probate & Properties, LLC
> 484-919-9762
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't
> stay
> charged
> From: "Mark Foster" mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com
> Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 12:40 am
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"
> mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>
> Hi again,
>
> In the event I need to buy a battery, is there anyone on this
> forum (
> possibly in Canada ) that might know where I can get a
> replacement battery
> for a 1982 380SEC other than the Vancouver dealer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose]
> On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch
> Sent: June 18, 2009 9:09 PM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't
> stay
> charged
>
> Mark,
> Unlike a 57 Chevy or 57 Mercedes any car from the 80s on up
> draws a
> lot of volts even when just sitting.
> Alternators do not go bad from sitting.
> I have had batteries that give off false information.
> If you have another car that you could take the battery out
> of
>
> would be the simplest way to go for a test.
>
> You could also take the car for a good ride with the "old"
> battery
> of an hour and see what happens when you try to restart...at
> home in
> the driveway
> keep cruisin
> Jay
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Mark Foster wrote:
>
> > Jay,
> >
> > The battery was about a year old before the coma set in.
> >
> > I will check the resting and running voltage and report
> back.
> >
> > Any thanks - Jay - Dick & An,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-
> > bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch
> > Sent: June 18, 2009 8:16 PM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't
> stay charged
> >
> > Alternators do not go bad from sitting
> > How old was the battery prior to the one year the car was
> in
> a
> > coma?
> > Buy a new battery
> > Jay H
> > On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Dick Spellman wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >>
> >> check battery resting voltage (engine off)...check battery
> voltage
> >> with engine running..then report these two readings to
> list
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dick
> >>
> >> Mark Foster wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I suspect this is an alternator issue - but I thought I
> better ask
> >>> the
> >>> expects in this forum.
> >>> My 380 SEC has not been running for about a year. I went
> out and
> >>> started it
> >>> today and after a 20 minute jump it started but I had to
> turn the
> >>> key a
> >>> number of times as it seemed as though it would not
> always
> catch.
> >>> The
> >>> dashboard starting lights would illuminate but there was
> just a
> >>> click sound
> >>> and then nothing. So I gave it a few more minutes - tried
> again -
> >>> and this
> >>> time it started. I gave it a few minutes running, then
> shut it off.
> >>> Naturally it would not start again ( actually was
> surprised the
> >>> old girl
> >>> started for me in the first place) so another jump and
> the
> same
> >>> scenario -
> >>> clicks - then finally it caught and roared to life. This
> time I
> >>> let it run
> >>> for half an hour - watching all the gauges ( seemed
> normal
> ) -
> >>> then went
> >>> for a very short drive. Up and down my street - just in
> case ;-)
> >>> So I finally turned it off and - guess what? Nothing! The
> battery
> >>> seems fine
> >>> as I had it on charge for a few days before attempting
> this. So,
> >>> I am
> >>> guessing the next natural trouble shooting progression
> would be the
> >>> alternator?
> >>> Thoughts/comments greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Mark ( Vancouver - Canada )
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-
> >>> bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of kabed1980 at yahoo.com
> >>> Sent: June 17, 2009 5:14 PM
> >>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)
> >>>
> >>> When I finally got to my 560after 7 years of sitting not
> running I
> >>> finally
> >>> got to u got it running bitter then new I had the run in
> with the
> >>> alternator
> >>> same description Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: "Iain Gunn" mailto:igunn at bmts.com
> >>>
> >>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:08:54 To: Mercedes Coupes
> Mailing
> >>> Listsmailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here, let me tell you another one that will throw you.
> >>> Speedometer starts bouncing all over the place, all gages
> start
> >>> going erratic, everything starts shutting down, blower
> motor goes
> >>> on to high heat.
> >>>
> >>> Think you're in the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"
> movie?
> >>>
> >>> Brushes in the alternator, or alternator.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone got more for the new guy?
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Afzaal Khan.M"
> >>> mailto:afzaal53 at gmail.com
> >>> To: "Vance Rowley" mailto:vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk;
> "Mercedes Coupes
> >>> Mailing Lists" mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:04 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Great! fault diagnosed and rectified.
> >>>> mak
> >>>>
> >>>> On 16/06/2009, Vance Rowley
> mailto:vance.rowley at tiscali.co..uk wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes, at last, confirmed. Received my new OVP relay this
> morning
> >>>>> and before
> >>>>> the delivery truck had driven away, I had the parcel
> ripped open
> >>>>> and fitted
> >>>>> the relay. My thoughts as I was about to turn the
> ignition key
> >>>>> was "well,
> >>>>> here goes" But as soon as I did, I could tell that this
> is it,
> >>>>> as the engine
> >>>>> started immediately and the ABS/ASR warning lights went
> out. It
> >>>>> used to take
> >>>>> around 10 seconds or more of the engine turning over to
> start
> >>>>> with the old
> >>>>> relay. The engine was very smooth and no stumble or
> hesitation
> >>>>> when revving
> >>>>> the engine. The idle was fine also.
> >>>>> I know that the OVP gets blamed for everything, but it
> looks
> >>>>> like if you
> >>>>> have the 4 symptoms all at the same time.
> >>>>> 1. Takes a long time to start
> >>>>> 2. High Idle
> >>>>> 3. ABS/ASR warning lights remain on.
> >>>>> 4. Rough running of the engine.
> >>>>> Then it looks like the problem is almost certainly the
> OVP
> >>>>> relay. Of course
> >>>>> it is possible that the fuse is just blown, but if that
> is OK
> >>>>> (as mine was)
> >>>>> then a new OVP should be the next step.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For those who want to have a go at repairing the relay,
> from
> >>>>> what I have
> >>>>> discovered along with input from this group, it looks
> like if
> >>>>> you get all
> >>>>> symptoms at the same time, then as long as the fuse,
> relay coil,
> >>>>> contacts
> >>>>> and solder joints are OK, then the most likely culprit
> is the
> >>>>> diode
> >>>>> connected between pin# 15 and the relay coil. It is
> unlikely
> >>>>> that the zener
> >>>>> diode is the problem, as this would more likely blow
> the
> fuse if
> >>>>> the zener
> >>>>> was at fault. If you get only 1 or 2 of the above
> symptoms, then
> >>>>> a solder
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:05:23 -0700
> From: "Markus Meyer" <mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 500SEC Euro - First fluids changes
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:27:37 -0400
> From: "Iain Gunn" <igunn at bmts.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
> To: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>, "Mercedes Coupes
> Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Battery drains are tricky things to find. Usually you go back to the last
> thing worked on or installed. Did you have a new accessory installed?
> Some known things to cause drains are the power door lock pump. If there
> is a leak in to system it will run intermittently. Also the power antenna.
> Here's a thing my dad taught me. In dim light or darkness, pull the
> negative off the battery and just touch it back on the terminal, if you
> see a large spark, something is draining. Remember there are a few things
> that are always powered, so if you barely see a spark, could be one of
> those things. Then go and start pulling fuses and repeat until you find
> the circuit. That at least gets you in the right direction.
> Before you do all this though, check the items that Vance posted. Once you
> have answered # 3 disconnect the ground on the battery and leave the same
> amount of time. Hook back up and see if the engine turns over.
> See below on Vance's items
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vance Rowley
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
>
>
> Most of the things that a professional mechanic or auto electrician would
> check for a battery drain (at least at first) can be checked by yourself
> as long as you have a very basic knowledge of electricity and a
> multi-meter.
> No codes would tell you or locate a battery drain. A few more details are
> required to help you locate the problem.
>
> 1. Are you sure that your battery itself is OK? HAVE A LOAD TEST DONE ON
> IT.
> 2. How long does it take to drain the battery enough not to start the
> next time with the car just sitting?
> (Several hours, overnight, two or three days?) SEE MY ANSWER ABOVE.
> 3. What is the battery voltage with ignition off while at rest? SHOULD BE
> 12 V
> 4. What is the battery voltage with the engine running? SHOULD BE AROUND
> 14 V
> 5. How much of a current draw are you getting from the battery with
> ignition off?
>
> If you could answer at least some of the questions and provide a few more
> details of the symptoms and what you have checked so far, I am confident
> that this group can help you to some degree, and might even be able to
> offer a solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vance.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clay
> To: MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:59 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> Out of hospital again, it's getting to be like going to get the SEC
> fixed. Broke ankle on both sides and couldn't get surgery do to the block
> cloth that made me fall. Enough of that, I and my son still can't find
> drain but when I went to start the last few times the wipers come on for a
> couple of sweeps, Could the drain be in ignition switch or the stalk or
> horns or column ? The shop I used to tune the 450SLC for emissions test
> charges $89.00 per hour. I guess I'm wondering how long a Mercedes shop
> w/trained mechanics would take to locate drain (ball park). Is there a
> plug in for codes on a 1988 SEC ? Any info highly appreciated especially
> Dick, He's helped me alot.
> Thanks Alot,
> Clayton Moizo
> Scottsdale,AZ
> If anyone wants to call in in bed again for at least another month or
> 2.
> Home 480.368.1217
> Cell 480.268.0791
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:15:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: bobby whitlock <theebobbywhitlock at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <335183.34114.qm at web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> I bought a 1991 560 SEC a few months ago...It rocks!..It is champagne and
> has tan leather interior that had sheepskins on them since new...The seats
> are just now exposed and are beautiful...An old gentleman in Kansas City
> had it since new and pampered it...It had only 69000 miles on it and I am
> really the second real owner...The third was the guy who drove it from
> there to Austin, and me...I got it literally for a song...Bobby Whitlock
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
> <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com> wrote:
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>
> From: mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:15 AM
>
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> ???1. Re: 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged??? (offsubject)
> ? ? ? (Ernest Stephens)
> ???2. Re: BATTERY DRAIN (Vance Rowley)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:53:59 -0600
> From: "Ernest Stephens" <stevetsg at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> ??? (offsubject)
> To: <kabed1980 at yahoo.com>,??? "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> ??? <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY108-DS4A57F2FC6FBEDDE49420CD43B0 at phx.gbl>
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> Yes, I'm from Los Altos, CA now living in Eagle ID (sorry, couldn't
> resist)
> On another subject; I have an 87 560SEC, looks like the black model with
> the AMG 16" wheels found on MBCoupes home page.? I've had the car since
> 1992, bought my wife a white 89 560SEC in 1993, (salt and pepper set),
> beautiful cars.? I now live in an area of the country where you don't find
> as many MB Coupes as you? do in the Bay Area but I find that the love
> affair with these coupes is the same no matter where I've been.
>
> steve
> ? ----- Original Message -----
> ? From: kabed1980 at yahoo.com<mailto:kabed1980 at yahoo.com>
> ? To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> ? Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 09:47 AM
> ? Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> (offsubject)
>
>
> ? Yea I just found this site not to long ago and its great u guys helped
> me out with the high rpm problem. And I'm not the one that posted it
> hahaha. Just wondering anyone here from california bay area?
> ? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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> ? -----Original Message-----
> ? From: "Mark Foster"
> <mfoster at fosterfirst.com<mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com>>
>
> ? Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:36:50
> ? To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing
> Lists'<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>
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> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:48:49 +0100
> From: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Most of the things that a professional mechanic or auto electrician would
> check for a battery drain (at least at first) can be checked by yourself
> as long as you have a very basic knowledge of electricity and a
> multi-meter.
> No codes would tell you or locate a battery drain. A few more details are
> required to help you locate the problem.
>
> 1. Are you sure that your battery itself is OK?
> 2. How long does it take to drain the battery enough not to start the next
> time with the car just sitting?
> ? ? (Several hours, overnight, two or three days?)
> 3. What is the battery voltage with ignition off while at rest?
> 4. What is the battery voltage with the engine running?
> 5. How much of a current draw are you getting from the battery with
> ignition off?
>
> If you could answer at least some of the questions and provide a few more
> details of the symptoms and what you have checked so far, I am confident
> that this group can help you to some degree, and might even be able to
> offer a solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vance.
> ? ----- Original Message -----
> ? From: clay
> ? To: MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM
> ? Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:59 PM
> ? Subject: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
>
>
> ? Hi Guys,
> ? Out of hospital again, it's getting to be like going to get the SEC
> fixed. Broke ankle on both sides and couldn't get surgery do to the block
> cloth that made me fall. Enough of that, I and my son still can't find
> drain but when I went to start the last few times the wipers come on for a
> couple of sweeps, Could the drain be in ignition switch or the stalk or
> horns or column ? The shop I used to tune the 450SLC for emissions test
> charges $89.00 per hour. I guess I'm wondering how long a Mercedes shop
> w/trained mechanics would take to locate drain (ball park). Is there a
> plug in for codes on a 1988 SEC ? Any info highly appreciated especially
> Dick, He's helped me alot.
> ? Thanks Alot,
> ? Clayton Moizo
> ? Scottsdale,AZ
> ? If anyone wants to call in in bed again for at least another month or 2.
> ? Home 480.368.1217
> ? Cell 480.268.0791
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:38:19 -0400
> From: "Terry Ratliff" <Terry at MyMBSEC.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <D7E12066D638411CBD8469178F8FDA79 at E1705>
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> Bobby - Congrats on your new acquisition. Visit my website and post a
> picture of it.Terry
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Terry C. Ratliff
>
> Clearwater, Florida
>
> Phone: 727-330-8683
>
> eMail: Terry at MyMBSEC.com
>
> Web site: <http://mymbsec.com/> http://MyMBSEC.com
>
> _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of bobby whitlock
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:16 PM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
>
>
>
>
> I bought a 1991 560 SEC a few months ago...It rocks!..It is champagne and
> has tan leather interior that had sheepskins on them since new...The seats
> are just now exposed and are beautiful...An old gentleman in Kansas City
> had
> it since new and pampered it...It had only 69000 miles on it and I am
> really
> the second real owner...The third was the guy who drove it from there to
> Austin, and me...I got it literally for a song...Bobby Whitlock
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
> <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:15 AM
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> 1. Re: 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged (offsubject)
> (Ernest Stephens)
> 2. Re: BATTERY DRAIN (Vance Rowley)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:53:59 -0600
> From: "Ernest Stephens" <stevetsg at msn.com
> <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=stevetsg@msn.com> >
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> (offsubject)
> To: <kabed1980 at yahoo.com
> <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kabed1980@yahoo.com> >,
> "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Yes, I'm from Los Altos, CA now living in Eagle ID (sorry, couldn't
> resist)
> On another subject; I have an 87 560SEC, looks like the black model with
> the
> AMG 16" wheels found on MBCoupes home page. I've had the car since 1992,
> bought my wife a white 89 560SEC in 1993, (salt and pepper set), beautiful
> cars. I now live in an area of the country where you don't find as many
> MB
> Coupes as you do in the Bay Area but I find that the love affair with
> these
> coupes is the same no matter where I've been.
>
> steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kabed1980 at yahoo.com
> <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kabed1980@yahoo.com>
> <mailto:kabed1980 at yahoo.com
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> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 09:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> (offsubject)
>
>
> Yea I just found this site not to long ago and its great u guys helped me
> out with the high rpm problem. And I'm not the one that posted it hahaha.
> Just wondering anyone here from california bay area?
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mark Foster" <mfoster at fosterfirst.com
> <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfoster@fosterfirst.com>
> <mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com
> <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfoster@fosterfirst.com> >>
>
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:36:50
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> From: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk
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> >
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
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> Most of the things that a professional mechanic or auto electrician would
> check for a battery drain (at least at first) can be checked by yourself
> as
> long as you have a very basic knowledge of electricity and a multi-meter.
> No codes would tell you or locate a battery drain. A few more details are
> required to help you locate the problem.
>
> 1. Are you sure that your battery itself is OK?
> 2. How long does it take to drain the battery enough not to start the next
> time with the car just sitting?
> (Several hours, overnight, two or three days?)
> 3. What is the battery voltage with ignition off while at rest?
> 4. What is the battery voltage with the engine running?
> 5. How much of a current draw are you getting from the battery with
> ignition
> off?
>
> If you could answer at least some of the questions and provide a few more
> details of the symptoms and what you have checked so far, I am confident
> that this group can help you to some degree, and might even be able to
> offer
> a solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vance.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clay
> To: MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM
> <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MBCOUPES@MBCOUPES.COM>
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:59 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> Out of hospital again, it's getting to be like going to get the SEC
> fixed.
> Broke ankle on both sides and couldn't get surgery do to the block cloth
> that made me fall. Enough of that, I and my son still can't find drain but
> when I went to start the last few times the wipers come on for a couple of
> sweeps, Could the drain be in ignition switch or the stalk or horns or
> column ? The shop I used to tune the 450SLC for emissions test charges
> $89.00 per hour. I guess I'm wondering how long a Mercedes shop w/trained
> mechanics would take to locate drain (ball park). Is there a plug in for
> codes on a 1988 SEC ? Any info highly appreciated especially Dick, He's
> helped me alot.
> Thanks Alot,
> Clayton Moizo
> Scottsdale,AZ
> If anyone wants to call in in bed again for at least another month or 2.
> Home 480.368.1217
> Cell 480.268.0791
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:49:05 -0600
> From: "Al Hollis" <alhollis at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <6CF498CABD5F41799A98DFAFE780AE20 at your4dacd0ea75>
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>
> I'm considering selling mine - may I ask what you paid?
>
> Laurie K
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bobby whitlock
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
>
>
> I bought a 1991 560 SEC a few months ago...It rocks!..It is
> champagne and has tan leather interior that had sheepskins on them since
> new...The seats are just now exposed and are beautiful...An old gentleman
> in Kansas City had it since new and pampered it...It had only 69000 miles
> on it and I am really the second real owner...The third was the guy who
> drove it from there to Austin, and me...I got it literally for a
> song...Bobby Whitlock
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
> <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
> <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:15 AM
>
>
> Send MBCOUPES mailing list submissions to
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> 1. Re: 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> (offsubject)
> (Ernest Stephens)
> 2. Re: BATTERY DRAIN (Vance Rowley)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:53:59 -0600
> From: "Ernest Stephens" <stevetsg at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
> (offsubject)
> To: <kabed1980 at yahoo.com>, "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY108-DS4A57F2FC6FBEDDE49420CD43B0 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Yes, I'm from Los Altos, CA now living in Eagle ID (sorry,
> couldn't resist)
> On another subject; I have an 87 560SEC, looks like the black
> model with the AMG 16" wheels found on MBCoupes home page. I've had the
> car since 1992, bought my wife a white 89 560SEC in 1993, (salt and pepper
> set), beautiful cars. I now live in an area of the country where you
> don't find as many MB Coupes as you do in the Bay Area but I find that
> the love affair with these coupes is the same no matter where I've been.
>
> steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kabed1980 at yahoo.com<mailto:kabed1980 at yahoo.com>
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 09:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged (offsubject)
>
>
> Yea I just found this site not to long ago and its great u guys
> helped me out with the high rpm problem. And I'm not the one that posted
> it hahaha. Just wondering anyone here from california bay area?
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mark Foster"
> <mfoster at fosterfirst.com<mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com>>
>
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:36:50
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing
> Lists'<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:48:49 +0100
> From: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <A79C4A3F2AC04D9FB3481A484A011BE5 at toshibauser>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Most of the things that a professional mechanic or auto
> electrician would check for a battery drain (at least at first) can be
> checked by yourself as long as you have a very basic knowledge of
> electricity and a multi-meter.
> No codes would tell you or locate a battery drain. A few more
> details are required to help you locate the problem.
>
> 1. Are you sure that your battery itself is OK?
> 2. How long does it take to drain the battery enough not to start
> the next time with the car just sitting?
> (Several hours, overnight, two or three days?)
> 3. What is the battery voltage with ignition off while at rest?
> 4. What is the battery voltage with the engine running?
> 5. How much of a current draw are you getting from the battery
> with ignition off?
>
> If you could answer at least some of the questions and provide a
> few more details of the symptoms and what you have checked so far, I am
> confident that this group can help you to some degree, and might even be
> able to offer a solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vance.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clay
> To: MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:59 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> Out of hospital again, it's getting to be like going to get the
> SEC fixed. Broke ankle on both sides and couldn't get surgery do to the
> block cloth that made me fall. Enough of that, I and my son still can't
> find drain but when I went to start the last few times the wipers come on
> for a couple of sweeps, Could the drain be in ignition switch or the stalk
> or horns or column ? The shop I used to tune the 450SLC for emissions test
> charges $89.00 per hour. I guess I'm wondering how long a Mercedes shop
> w/trained mechanics would take to locate drain (ball park). Is there a
> plug in for codes on a 1988 SEC ? Any info highly appreciated especially
> Dick, He's helped me alot.
> Thanks Alot,
> Clayton Moizo
> Scottsdale,AZ
> If anyone wants to call in in bed again for at least another
> month or 2.
> Home 480.368.1217
> Cell 480.268.0791
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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>
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> ****************************************
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:01:29 -0400
> From: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <00ce01c9f1e1$e7311920$0202a8c0 at HomeOffice>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> He paid $4K....but I'll give you $5K for yours if it's the same. :)
>
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Al Hollis
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
>
>
> I'm considering selling mine - may I ask what you paid?
>
> Laurie K
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bobby whitlock
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
>
>
> I bought a 1991 560 SEC a few months ago...It rocks!..It is
> champagne and has tan leather interior that had sheepskins on them since
> new...The seats are just now exposed and are beautiful...An old gentleman
> in Kansas City had it since new and pampered it...It had only 69000 miles
> on it and I am really the second real owner...The third was the guy who
> drove it from there to Austin, and me...I got it literally for a
> song...Bobby Whitlock
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
> <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
> <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 59, Issue 27
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:15 AM
>
>
> Send MBCOUPES mailing list submissions to
> mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>
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> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mbcoupes
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>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> mbcoupes-owner at mbcoupes.com
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
> specific
> than "Re: Contents of MBCOUPES digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> (offsubject)
> (Ernest Stephens)
> 2. Re: BATTERY DRAIN (Vance Rowley)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:53:59 -0600
> From: "Ernest Stephens" <stevetsg at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
> (offsubject)
> To: <kabed1980 at yahoo.com>, "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY108-DS4A57F2FC6FBEDDE49420CD43B0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Yes, I'm from Los Altos, CA now living in Eagle ID (sorry,
> couldn't resist)
> On another subject; I have an 87 560SEC, looks like the black
> model with the AMG 16" wheels found on MBCoupes home page. I've had the
> car since 1992, bought my wife a white 89 560SEC in 1993, (salt and pepper
> set), beautiful cars. I now live in an area of the country where you
> don't find as many MB Coupes as you do in the Bay Area but I find that
> the love affair with these coupes is the same no matter where I've been.
>
> steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kabed1980 at yahoo.com<mailto:kabed1980 at yahoo.com>
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing
> Lists<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 09:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't
> stay charged (offsubject)
>
>
> Yea I just found this site not to long ago and its great u
> guys helped me out with the high rpm problem. And I'm not the one that
> posted it hahaha. Just wondering anyone here from california bay area?
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mark Foster"
> <mfoster at fosterfirst.com<mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com>>
>
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:36:50
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing
> Lists'<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't
> stay charged
>
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:48:49 +0100
> From: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <A79C4A3F2AC04D9FB3481A484A011BE5 at toshibauser>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Most of the things that a professional mechanic or auto
> electrician would check for a battery drain (at least at first) can be
> checked by yourself as long as you have a very basic knowledge of
> electricity and a multi-meter.
> No codes would tell you or locate a battery drain. A few more
> details are required to help you locate the problem.
>
> 1. Are you sure that your battery itself is OK?
> 2. How long does it take to drain the battery enough not to
> start the next time with the car just sitting?
> (Several hours, overnight, two or three days?)
> 3. What is the battery voltage with ignition off while at rest?
> 4. What is the battery voltage with the engine running?
> 5. How much of a current draw are you getting from the battery
> with ignition off?
>
> If you could answer at least some of the questions and provide
> a few more details of the symptoms and what you have checked so far, I am
> confident that this group can help you to some degree, and might even be
> able to offer a solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vance.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clay
> To: MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:59 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] BATTERY DRAIN
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> Out of hospital again, it's getting to be like going to get
> the SEC fixed. Broke ankle on both sides and couldn't get surgery do to
> the block cloth that made me fall. Enough of that, I and my son still
> can't find drain but when I went to start the last few times the wipers
> come on for a couple of sweeps, Could the drain be in ignition switch or
> the stalk or horns or column ? The shop I used to tune the 450SLC for
> emissions test charges $89.00 per hour. I guess I'm wondering how long a
> Mercedes shop w/trained mechanics would take to locate drain (ball park).
> Is there a plug in for codes on a 1988 SEC ? Any info highly appreciated
> especially Dick, He's helped me alot.
> Thanks Alot,
> Clayton Moizo
> Scottsdale,AZ
> If anyone wants to call in in bed again for at least another
> month or 2.
> Home 480.368.1217
> Cell 480.268.0791
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
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>
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> ****************************************
>
>
>
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