[W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged

Ernest Stephens stevetsg at msn.com
Fri Jun 19 15:16:24 EDT 2009

Good question.
Thanks for your response Dick, I was struggling with the other opinion that you should only change a portion of the oil due to slippage problems caused by the viscosity of the new oil.
steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Spellman<mailto:dick.spellman at gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged


No truth to that at all Mark.

Drop the pan, clean everything up (some gray film likely), rotate the
crankshaft until you can see the drain plug on the torque converter and
remove it, crack a tranny line fitting on the valve body (driver's side
is easy access) just a bit so that torque converter drains as much as
possible. Go have lunch. Come back button things up with a new filter,
add fluid, run the shift points, top off fluid again if needed.

Dick

Mark Foster wrote:
>
> Is there any truth to the comment I heard that you don’t replace all
> of the tranny fluid?
>
>
>
> *From:* mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com>
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] *On Behalf Of *Markus Meyer
> *Sent:* June 19, 2009 10:45 AM
> *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
>
>
>
> Glad you are finding what you needed!
>
>
>
> Yes, never know once you get it running. I'd probably suggest changing
> all fluids/filters and drive to see what's up. Get a tank of good gas
> in there with some fuel injection cleaner such as BG44K or something
> similar.
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> Markus Meyer
>
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>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay charged
> From: "Mark Foster" <mfoster at fosterfirst.com<mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com>>
> Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 1:31 pm
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>
>
> Markus et al,
>
>
>
> I took the battery I have to a Interstate battery dealer. Would
> you believe it was a few minutes down the street and I live in a
> little coastal community just south of Vancouver? Amazing – anyway
> I digress!
>
>
>
> I turns out there was a distinct absence of acid in the battery –
> so a new one was ordered this morning at $160 Canadian.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help. As the car has not been running for awhile,
> there may still be issues to comes. So… I might b posting to this
> forum again in the very near future!
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com>
> [_mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com_] *On Behalf Of *Markus Meyer
> *Sent:* June 19, 2009 2:49 AM
> *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
>
>
>
> Mark,
>
>
>
> Check out Interstate Batteries, I believe the website is
> _www.interstatebatteries.com_
> <http://www.interstatebatteries.com/<http://www.interstatebatteries.com/>>. You can search for a local
> dealer/distributor. I have been using their batteries in all my
> vehicles with excellent success.
>
>
>
> For the future if you plan to leave a battery unattended that
> long, I'd suggest a trickle charger of some sort, such as a
> battery tender. They can get totally discharged from sitting and
> this is not good for them, even if fairly new.
>
>
>
> Markus Meyer
>
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>
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>
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>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
> From: "Mark Foster" <mfoster at fosterfirst.com<mailto:mfoster at fosterfirst.com>>
> Date: Fri, June 19, 2009 12:40 am
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>
>
> Hi again,
>
> In the event I need to buy a battery, is there anyone on this
> forum (
> possibly in Canada ) that might know where I can get a
> replacement battery
> for a 1982 380SEC other than the Vancouver dealer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com>
> [_http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose_]
> On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch
> Sent: June 18, 2009 9:09 PM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't stay
> charged
>
> Mark,
> Unlike a 57 Chevy or 57 Mercedes any car from the 80s on up
> draws a
> lot of volts even when just sitting.
> Alternators do not go bad from sitting.
> I have had batteries that give off false information.
> If you have another car that you could take the battery out of
> would be the simplest way to go for a test.
>
> You could also take the car for a good ride with the "old"
> battery
> of an hour and see what happens when you try to restart...at
> home in
> the driveway
> keep cruisin
> Jay
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Mark Foster wrote:
>
> > Jay,
> >
> > The battery was about a year old before the coma set in.
> >
> > I will check the resting and running voltage and report back.
> >
> > Any thanks - Jay - Dick & An,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com> [mailto:mbcoupes-
> > bounces at mbcoupes.com<mailto:bounces at mbcoupes.com>]
> > On Behalf Of Jay Hirsch
> > Sent: June 18, 2009 8:16 PM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1982 380SEC - started but won't
> stay charged
> >
> > Alternators do not go bad from sitting
> > How old was the battery prior to the one year the car was in a
> > coma?
> > Buy a new battery
> > Jay H
> > On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Dick Spellman wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >>
> >> check battery resting voltage (engine off)...check battery
> voltage
> >> with engine running..then report these two readings to list
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dick
> >>
> >> Mark Foster wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I suspect this is an alternator issue - but I thought I
> better ask
> >>> the
> >>> expects in this forum.
> >>> My 380 SEC has not been running for about a year. I went
> out and
> >>> started it
> >>> today and after a 20 minute jump it started but I had to
> turn the
> >>> key a
> >>> number of times as it seemed as though it would not always
> catch.
> >>> The
> >>> dashboard starting lights would illuminate but there was just a
> >>> click sound
> >>> and then nothing. So I gave it a few more minutes - tried
> again -
> >>> and this
> >>> time it started. I gave it a few minutes running, then shut
> it off.
> >>> Naturally it would not start again ( actually was surprised the
> >>> old girl
> >>> started for me in the first place) so another jump and the same
> >>> scenario -
> >>> clicks - then finally it caught and roared to life. This time I
> >>> let it run
> >>> for half an hour - watching all the gauges ( seemed normal ) -
> >>> then went
> >>> for a very short drive. Up and down my street - just in
> case ;-)
> >>> So I finally turned it off and - guess what? Nothing! The
> battery
> >>> seems fine
> >>> as I had it on charge for a few days before attempting
> this. So,
> >>> I am
> >>> guessing the next natural trouble shooting progression
> would be the
> >>> alternator?
> >>> Thoughts/comments greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Mark ( Vancouver - Canada )
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com> [mailto:mbcoupes-
> >>> bounces at mbcoupes.com<mailto:bounces at mbcoupes.com>]
> >>> On Behalf Of kabed1980 at yahoo.com<mailto:kabed1980 at yahoo.com>
> >>> Sent: June 17, 2009 5:14 PM
> >>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)
> >>>
> >>> When I finally got to my 560after 7 years of sitting not
> running I
> >>> finally
> >>> got to u got it running bitter then new I had the run in
> with the
> >>> alternator
> >>> same description Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: "Iain Gunn" <igunn at bmts.com<mailto:igunn at bmts.com>>
> >>>
> >>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:08:54 To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing
> >>> Lists<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here, let me tell you another one that will throw you.
> >>> Speedometer starts bouncing all over the place, all gages start
> >>> going erratic, everything starts shutting down, blower
> motor goes
> >>> on to high heat.
> >>>
> >>> Think you're in the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" movie?
> >>>
> >>> Brushes in the alternator, or alternator.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone got more for the new guy?
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Afzaal Khan.M"
> >>> <afzaal53 at gmail.com<mailto:afzaal53 at gmail.com>>
> >>> To: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk<mailto:vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>>; "Mercedes
> Coupes
> >>> Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com<mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:04 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Suspect OVP relay (update)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Great! fault diagnosed and rectified.
> >>>> mak
> >>>>
> >>>> On 16/06/2009, Vance Rowley <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk<mailto:vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes, at last, confirmed. Received my new OVP relay this
> morning
> >>>>> and before
> >>>>> the delivery truck had driven away, I had the parcel
> ripped open
> >>>>> and fitted
> >>>>> the relay. My thoughts as I was about to turn the
> ignition key
> >>>>> was "well,
> >>>>> here goes" But as soon as I did, I could tell that this
> is it,
> >>>>> as the engine
> >>>>> started immediately and the ABS/ASR warning lights went
> out. It
> >>>>> used to take
> >>>>> around 10 seconds or more of the engine turning over to start
> >>>>> with the old
> >>>>> relay. The engine was very smooth and no stumble or
> hesitation
> >>>>> when revving
> >>>>> the engine. The idle was fine also.
> >>>>> I know that the OVP gets blamed for everything, but it looks
> >>>>> like if you
> >>>>> have the 4 symptoms all at the same time.
> >>>>> 1. Takes a long time to start
> >>>>> 2. High Idle
> >>>>> 3. ABS/ASR warning lights remain on.
> >>>>> 4. Rough running of the engine.
> >>>>> Then it looks like the problem is almost certainly the OVP
> >>>>> relay. Of course
> >>>>> it is possible that the fuse is just blown, but if that is OK
> >>>>> (as mine was)
> >>>>> then a new OVP should be the next step.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For those who want to have a go at repairing the relay, from
> >>>>> what I have
> >>>>> discovered along with input from this group, it looks like if
> >>>>> you get all
> >>>>> symptoms at the same time, then as long as the fuse,
> relay coil,
> >>>>> contacts
> >>>>> and solder joints are OK, then the most likely culprit is
> the
> >>>>> diode
> >>>>> connected between pin# 15 and the relay coil. It is unlikely
> >>>>> that the zener
> >>>>> diode is the problem, as this would more likely blow the
> fuse if
> >>>>> the zener
> >>>>> was at fault. If you get only 1 or 2 of the above
> symptoms, then
> >>>>> a solder
> >>>>> joint (or more) would be most likely.But of course when
> you get
> >>>>> only 1 or
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> 2
> >>>>> of the symptoms, say for example the ABS warning light
> on, then
> >>>>> it's
> >>>>> possible the OVP is fine and that the problem could be
> the ABS
> >>>>> computer
> >>>>> itself. It's understandable that the OVP gets blamed for
> >>>>> everything, but is
> >>>>> certainly the first thing to check.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks again to everyone who gave their input.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vance.
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