[W126 Coupe] Pimping a 500 SEC

[Andrew Sporner]

> We're all talking the same numbers @ the crank.

>

> :)



Thanks :-)  thats always been a point of unclarity because I have
heard it different ways.
I have only had EURO versions and had assumed that the differences
were the cat (which
mine does have--though not factory installed.

Here (in germany anyways) since the greens were in power not long ago
(and I think even
a little before --though it was before my time here) there is a tax on
how "dirty" the car is.
An unmodified 500 SEC would cost EUR 1268 a year for taxes and one
with EURO-3 (which
is what I have got) costs EUR 337.  The good ones are made in
Stuttgart by Peter Wurms.
(they were sold only at Mercedes workshops)  That is what I have in my
car.  It would be
interesting to see how EURO-3 stacks up with California Emissions.  My
new C-class is
already EURO-4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards#Emission_standards_for_passenger_cars)


>From what I understand, the 560 motor is basically a bored-out 500

motor with a lot of other
niceties.   I also know that Koenig in Munich had a supercharger
option for a 560.   What
I would like to know is what is available for the 500 to get it up
there?  Or is it a custom
job like we used to do with the Chevy motors when I was in school?


Andy



>

> Andrew Sporner wrote:

>

> Thanks,

>

> But are we comparing the same horsepowers?  SAE -vs- BHP?  If I understand

> it right they measure the power here (in Europe) at the engine, not at

> the wheels.

>

>

> Andy

>

> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Markus Meyer

> <mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com> wrote:

>

>

> Yes, euros had more hp than their US counterparts.  For example:

>

> euro 380 = US 500

> US 500 = euro 560

>

> One major reason is the exhaust.  The restrictive US exhaust vs. the euro

> tri-y for instance, yields a 25-30hp difference I believe.  So...a US 560

> being 238hp, adding 25-30 puts you in the clost to 260-270hp range, which is

> what one of the euro 560's motors has.  There is another motor that puts out

> close to 300hp, which is a euro 560 that I believe has different fuel

> mappings.

>

> Markus Meyer

> mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com

> www.meyerprobateproperties.com

> Meyer Probate & Properties, LLC

> 484-919-9762

>

>

>

>

> -------- Original Message --------

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Pimping a 500 SEC

> From: Andrew Sporner <asporner at googlemail.com>

> Date: Sat, January 31, 2009 4:17 pm

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have read bits and pieces about the Frankenbenz and the power thats

> expected from it. I did some looking in the archives and found mentions of a

> 445 Hp 560SEC.

>

> Has there been anything done to "pimp out" a 500 SEC? From what I understand

> the 560 motor was only in the 2nd series onward and I really want to keep my

> first series car, but get more than the standard HP. Has anyone done this

> with

> M117?

>

> Another note. On one previous post someone mentioned that the European

> motors had more horsepower. Is this because of the "cat" or is it a

> misunderstanding

> that here the horsepower is calculated differently (my 500 here puts

> out 170KW and

> 232 hp, but the same car in the U.S. 180 something)?

>

> Cheers

>

>

>

> -Andy

>

>

>

> Andy

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