[W126 Coupe] Pimping a 500 SEC

Andrew Sporner asporner at googlemail.com
Sat Jan 31 17:38:34 EST 2009


I might have been unclear somewhat-- here is the way the Germans do it:

DIN horsepower is the power measurement protocol in the German DIN
standard 70020. It is sometimes abbreviated as "PS", which stands for
Pferdestärke, which is the German word for horsepower. DIN hp is
measured at the engine's output shaft, and is usually expressed in
metric (Pferdestärke) rather than mechanical horsepower.

Which I think is different than in the USA. Is this true?


Andy


On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Andrew Sporner
<asporner at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Thanks,

>

> But are we comparing the same horsepowers? SAE -vs- BHP? If I understand

> it right they measure the power here (in Europe) at the engine, not at

> the wheels.

>

>

> Andy

>

> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Markus Meyer

> <mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com> wrote:

>> Yes, euros had more hp than their US counterparts. For example:

>>

>> euro 380 = US 500

>> US 500 = euro 560

>>

>> One major reason is the exhaust. The restrictive US exhaust vs. the euro

>> tri-y for instance, yields a 25-30hp difference I believe. So...a US 560

>> being 238hp, adding 25-30 puts you in the clost to 260-270hp range, which is

>> what one of the euro 560's motors has. There is another motor that puts out

>> close to 300hp, which is a euro 560 that I believe has different fuel

>> mappings.

>>

>> Markus Meyer

>> mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com

>> www.meyerprobateproperties.com

>> Meyer Probate & Properties, LLC

>> 484-919-9762

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> -------- Original Message --------

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Pimping a 500 SEC

>> From: Andrew Sporner <asporner at googlemail.com>

>> Date: Sat, January 31, 2009 4:17 pm

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>

>> Hi all,

>>

>> I have read bits and pieces about the Frankenbenz and the power thats

>> expected from it. I did some looking in the archives and found mentions of a

>> 445 Hp 560SEC.

>>

>> Has there been anything done to "pimp out" a 500 SEC? From what I understand

>> the 560 motor was only in the 2nd series onward and I really want to keep my

>> first series car, but get more than the standard HP. Has anyone done this

>> with

>> M117?

>>

>> Another note. On one previous post someone mentioned that the European

>> motors had more horsepower. Is this because of the "cat" or is it a

>> misunderstanding

>> that here the horsepower is calculated differently (my 500 here puts

>> out 170KW and

>> 232 hp, but the same car in the U.S. 180 something)?

>>

>> Cheers

>>

>>

>>

>> -Andy

>>

>>

>>

>> Andy

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