[W126 Coupe] Tires

[brucegorsak at netscape.net]

I definitley recommend the tire rack as a resource.? They have accounts with tire installers that is less expensive to go through them than to negotiate it yourself ... by a lot!? For example, I had my tires delivered to Tire Kingdom where they get 39.95 per corner for low profile 16"? Through Tire Rack it was 11.50.? 

I had Michelin Pilots on my 380SEC (I have Lorinzer wheels), but they wear out wayyyy too fast.? So I went to Continental Conti's and I love them.? They have far better longevity that the Pilots.? I have PIRELLI P4 FOUR SEASONS on my 560SEL and they seem to be last many many miles and have great road manners.? I have Dunlops on my 500SE and have hammered them with even wear and handling characteristics to date?(I dont recall which specific Dunlops), the 500 has Eibach springs and Bilstein shocks around it, corning well using the extra power from the Euro engine.

For everyday stuff like my 300TD, 300D and 190D (1964) ... I am a Michelin man.

Good luck!
Bruce

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   1. New Tires for 1985 SEC (btb management)
   2. Re: New Tires for 1985 SEC (Markus Meyer)
   3. 380 / 500 differences (Andrew Sporner)
   4. Re: 380 / 500 differences (Markus Meyer)
   5. Re: 380 / 500 differences (Richard Shayegan)
   6. Re: 380 / 500 differences (stefansj at canisius.edu)
   7. Re: 380 / 500 differences (Barry Corno)
   8. Re: 380 / 500 differences (Andrew Sporner)
   9. Re: 380 / 500 differences (Andrew Sporner)


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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:25:45 +0000
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Subject: [W126 Coupe] New Tires for 1985 SEC
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Any suggestions for new tires on 1985 500 SEC?
Live in San Diego so warm weather mostly no need for snow treads.
Thanks,
Robert

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:05:14 +0100
From: Andrew Sporner <asporner at googlemail.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 differences
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Hi

I just got the news that my 500 will cost too much to repair, so now I am
going to look for a replacement. (nearly EUR 17K for chassis/body work--
OK thats a mercedes shop and would be expensive! but even a private
shop would charge even a third to half and still its too much).

Ultimate goal is to bring it home with me in a few years.  From this I have
considered a 380 SEC which was sold from the very beginning in the USA
and thus would be no problem to insure.

I notice a huge difference in displacement, but a very small difference in
horsepower.  Somebody told me that consume nearly the same amount of
gas.  Are there any other big differences (besides the obvious).  I know that
one can get about 500,000 KM on a 500 but I don't know if the 380 motor is
as well built.

Suggestions/ideas???


Andy


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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:52:45 -0700
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:03:04 -0500
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: Richard Shayegan <rrshayegan at wm.edu>

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 differences
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I wouldn't want a US 380 if I lived in Europe. The US 380 only had 
155hp. It's a fine engine outside of that, but if you live in Europe 
where 380s came with 204hp, no need to buy a US model
All non-US 380s came with a double row timing chain. Only 1984-1985 380s 
had a double row timing chain in the US.
I think it gets a few more mpg than the 500.

Andrew Sporner wrote, On 1/30/2009 7:05 AM:

> Hi

>

> I just got the news that my 500 will cost too much to repair, so now I am

> going to look for a replacement. (nearly EUR 17K for chassis/body work--

> OK thats a mercedes shop and would be expensive! but even a private

> shop would charge even a third to half and still its too much).

>

> Ultimate goal is to bring it home with me in a few years.  From this I have

> considered a 380 SEC which was sold from the very beginning in the USA

> and thus would be no problem to insure.

>

> I notice a huge difference in displacement, but a very small difference in

> horsepower.  Somebody told me that consume nearly the same amount of

> gas.  Are there any other big differences (besides the obvious).  I know that

> one can get about 500,000 KM on a 500 but I don't know if the 380 motor is

> as well built.

>

> Suggestions/ideas???

>

>

> Andy

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:30:06 -0500 (EST)
From: <stefansj at canisius.edu>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 differences
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I have both US and euro 380. I must say that 
the us is nothing special but the euro is quite a 
nice little engine. It 
is superior to the US with 
the cams used, the dual chain, the exhaust 
manifolds, and is much more powerful. If you 
can get your hands on the euro I'd 
recommend that over the US 500. It has more 
power and better gas mileage (21.5 mpg). It is 
however the higher compression engine which 
in turn requires premium gas. PS: thanks for 
the springs Richard the car looks sooo much 
better.

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(on behalf of Richard Shayegan 
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>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 

differences  

>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 

<mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>

>I wouldn't want a US 380 if I lived in Europe. 

The US 380 only had 

>155hp. It's a fine engine outside of that, but if 

you live in Europe 

>where 380s came with 204hp, no need to 

buy a US model

>All non-US 380s came with a double row 

timing chain. Only 1984-1985 380s 

>had a double row timing chain in the US.

>I think it gets a few more mpg than the 500.

>

>Andrew Sporner wrote, On 1/30/2009 7:05 

AM:

>> Hi

>>

>> I just got the news that my 500 will cost too 

much to repair, so now I am

>> going to look for a replacement. (nearly 

EUR 17K for chassis/body work--

>> OK thats a mercedes shop and would be 

expensive! but even a private

>> shop would charge even a third to half and 

still its too much).

>>

>> Ultimate goal is to bring it home with me in 

a few years.  From this I have

>> considered a 380 SEC which was sold from 

the very beginning in the USA

>> and thus would be no problem to insure.

>>

>> I notice a huge difference in displacement, 

but a very small difference in

>> horsepower.  Somebody told me that 

consume nearly the same amount of

>> gas.  Are there any other big differences 

(besides the obvious).  I know that

>> one can get about 500,000 KM on a 500 

but I don't know if the 380 motor is

>> as well built.

>>

>> Suggestions/ideas???

>>

>>

>> Andy

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, 


L.L.C.

>>

>>   

>

>The MB Coupes Website!

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L.L.C.



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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:43:03 -0800
From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 differences
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A little insight on the 380 US engine, 307 rear end, no cats,
 and 5 liter cams with solid lifters. It now can get out of
Its shadow.

B.C.


 

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Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 differences

I have both US and euro 380. I must say that 
the us is nothing special but the euro is quite a 
nice little engine. It is superior to the US with 
the cams used, the dual chain, the exhaust 
manifolds, and is much more powerful. If you 
can get your hands on the euro I'd 
recommend that over the US 500. It has more 
power and better gas mileage (21.5 mpg). It is 
however the higher compression engine which 
in turn requires premium gas. PS: thanks for 
the springs Richard the car looks sooo much 
better.


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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:29:41 +0100
From: Andrew Sporner <asporner at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 differences
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Hi

Thanks, I just got back from the dealer/workshop.   There I looked at
a 500 SEC from 1985.
It is probably the last of the 1st series (production date 9/1985).
I am looking to get this
one.  It has only 180K Kilometers on it (mine has 344K).   The chasis
is very clean as well
as the interior.
  It is was brought in for sale by an old lady who
can't drive any longer.

I only know about the EURO versions of the SEC and know that the 380
went as long here
as the 500 (both introduced in 1981/2--which was my problem with the
insurance -- what to
with with a 500 that was built two years before they were officially
sold there) and as you
say was replaced by the 420.


Andy


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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:31:30 +0100
From: Andrew Sporner <asporner at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 380 / 500 differences
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I should mention I can *ONLY* get EURO versions (nearly anyways!) as that
is where I am ;-)

Andy


On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Andrew Sporner <asporner at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi

>

> Thanks, I just got back from the dealer/workshop.   There I looked at

> a 500 SEC from 1985.

> It is probably the last of the 1st series (production date 9/1985).

> I am looking to get this

> one.  It has only 180K Kilometers on it (mine has 344K).   The chasis

> is very clean as well

> as the interior.  It is was brought in for sale by an old lady who

> can't drive any longer.

>

> I only know about the EURO versions of the SEC and know that the 380

> went as long here

> as the 500 (both introduced in 1981/2--which was my problem with the

> insurance -- what to

> with with a 500 that was built two years before they were officially

> sold there) and as you

> say was replaced by the 420.

>

>

> Andy

>



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