[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 65, Issue 15
Graham Scaife
gscaife at stonybrookmfg.com
Fri Dec 18 12:45:15 EST 2009
Markus,
Thank you I'll give it a shot. Yesterday was quite a day. Hazard switch stuck on, Cruise control quit, windshield washer quit, Climate control quit,
and SRS warning light is flashing. Just bought this beautiful 88 560 SEC with only 74 k. Hope my luck improves.
Graham
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Re: lazy transmission (Markus Meyer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:23:58 -0600 From: "Tom&Dana" Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headers Available To: , "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" Message-ID: <5578D234874C4341A9FBF3E6CE856005 at danawana> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Jono, it anyone else has comments about the headers, please chime in! -----Original Message----- From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodgman Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:15 AM To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headers Available FWIW, adding an EGR port isn't difficult. Good luck w/ the sale! Jonathan -- Jonathan Hodgman Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East http://www.blueridgemb.com Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Tuning. (404)805-1357 97 C36 96 S600 Euro 94 E420 (Parts) 93 300SE 93 500E (Parts) 91 E300D 2.5 91 560SEC ECE 91 500SL Jap Spec 91 560SEC 226/271 90 300SL 88 300E AMG 89 190E 2.6 5sp 89 300TE 88 560SEC AMG Euro ECE (Parts) 89 560SEC AMG solid lifter 87 AMG Hammer 6.0L 32V 86 560SEL AMG 6.0L 32V The MB Coupes Website! W126 SEC Mailing List Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:20:24 +0000 From: btb management Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Dragging transmission on 500 SEC To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Have a 1985 500 SEC which went into the shop for one problem-fuel ignition and came back with another. The mechanic said he drove in heavy load mode to test the car for 20 miles on the freeway. Now the car feels like the emergency brake is on all the time and the transmission is not flowing smoothly between gears. This problem did not exist when it was brought in. Any ideas? Thanks, Robert _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:34:11 -0500 From: Jay Hirsch Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Dragging transmission on 500 SEC To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists Message-ID: <71F3DE42-495C-47C9-877D-DA2DEF5184F3 at mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Clarify for me what is "heavy load?" To me that is pulling a 28 foot boat on a trailer or a 33 foot Airstream. Was he driving with the brake on? Seems to me brake caliper is locked or you have collapsed brake hose which can cause a caliper to lock on a rotor. keep cruisin Jay H On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:20 PM, btb management wrote: > > Have a 1985 500 SEC which went into the shop for one problem-fuel > ignition and came > back with another. The mechanic said he drove in heavy load mode > to test > the car for 20 miles on the freeway. Now the car feels like the > emergency > brake is on all the time and the transmission is not flowing > smoothly between gears. > This problem did not exist when it was brought in. > Any ideas? > Thanks, > Robert > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. > Sign up now. > The MB Coupes Website! > W126 SEC Mailing List > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:35:42 -0500 From: wjs Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headers Available To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists Cc: jhodgman at gmail.com Message-ID: <15A59A6E-9A90-4BA6-8753-4F4032BE6F6E at optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Beautiful! Now if only I can convince Mrs. Claus... Jack Schaefer '87 SEC On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Tom&Dana wrote: > Thanks Jono, it anyone else has comments about the headers, please chime in! > > -----Original Message----- > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodgman > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:15 AM > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headers Available > > > FWIW, adding an EGR port isn't difficult. > > Good luck w/ the sale! > > Jonathan > > -- > Jonathan Hodgman > Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East > http://www.blueridgemb.com > Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Tuning. (404)805-1357 97 C36 96 > S600 Euro 94 E420 (Parts) 93 300SE 93 500E (Parts) 91 E300D 2.5 91 560SEC > ECE 91 500SL Jap Spec 91 560SEC 226/271 90 300SL 88 300E AMG 89 190E 2.6 5sp > 89 300TE > 88 560SEC AMG Euro ECE (Parts) > 89 560SEC AMG solid lifter > 87 AMG Hammer 6.0L 32V > 86 560SEL AMG 6.0L 32V > > The MB Coupes Website! > W126 SEC Mailing List > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C. > > The MB Coupes Website! > W126 SEC Mailing List > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:21:21 -0600 From: Brent von Behrens Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headers Available To: MB Coupes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Tom, Those are drop dead gorgeous. Someone should get their hands on them and not look back. Regards, Brent _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:35:56 +0000 From: "Graham Scaife" Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 65, Issue 14 To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anybody know how to remove the hazard switch from the consul? Graham -----Original Message----- From: mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:15 PM To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 65, Issue 14 Send MBCOUPES mailing list submissions to mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mbcoupes or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com You can reach the person managing the list at mbcoupes-owner at mbcoupes.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of MBCOUPES digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Let's connect on LinkedIn (Ernest Stephens) 2. Headers Available (Tom&Dana) 3. Re: Headers Available (Jonathan Hodgman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ernest Stephens Subject: [W126 Coupe] Let's connect on LinkedIn To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists Message-ID: <1034251151.15347511.1261002487506.JavaMail.app at ech3-cdn11.prod> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" LinkedIn ------------ Mercedes, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Ernest Stephens Confirm that you know Ernest Stephens https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/935779789/WZC9CNYY/ Every day, millions of professionals like Ernest Stephens use LinkedIn to connect with colleagues, find experts, and explore opportunities. ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:03:11 -0600 From: "Tom&Dana" Subject: [W126 Coupe] Headers Available To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" Message-ID: <966F3C02F8FC48718491413136B2AD25 at danawana> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a set of new, never-mounted headers for sale, custom made for a 560 SEC. I have been a member of this list for a long time, and out of loyalty to the list I am offering them here before posting them on eBay. I'm asking $1400, which is about what they cost to make in 2003. For those of you who don't know the story, here it is. Another member of this list supercharged his car back in 2003. I don't want to post his name without his permission, but he was quite the celebrity on this list and others as well. Like the rest of us, he was horrified by the restrictive stock exhaust set-up. He found a machinist to build and custom-fit headers for his car, and made several additional sets. They are made of 16-gauge mild steel, 1-3/4 inch diameter, and ceramic coated in silver. The coating is by Jet-Hot, and is warranted for life. They are a true Tri-Y configuration. The pipe diameter was optimized for laminar flow over the entire velocity range. The primary benefit is a big reduction in back pressure. The stock set-up results in lower power, premature valve-stem failure and the notorious head gasket leak at the number 8 cylinder. The Jet-Hot coating will prevent any rust whatsoever and will result in lower under-hood temperatures, too. I have used it on other cars and have been very impressed. So what's the power difference? Our esteemed member dyno'd his supercharged car both before and after replacing the stock manifold with the headers. Rear wheel horsepower increased from 306.6 to 345.6, and torque increased from 372.6 to 397.7. That's huge, and it illustrates just how restrictive our stock exhaust really is. I cannot guarantee what these headers will do for a non-supercharged car, but I would expect power gains to be similar--somewhere in the 10% range. Remember that a stock 560 SEC (US) only puts out 238 hp at the flywheel, so it needs all the help it can get. So why am I selling them? It's simple. I live in a smog-regulated place, and these headers don't have an EGR port. I would have to detach the EGR, and that's a no-no here. Here are a couple of photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwgriff/4192351711/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwgriff/4192351625/ If you're interested, please email me offline at dwgriff at sbcglobal.net ------------------------ ------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:15:03 -0500 From: Jonathan Hodgman Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headers Available To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists Message-ID: <4B2A6717.3070702 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed FWIW, adding an EGR port isn't difficult. Good luck w/ the sale! Jonathan -- Jonathan Hodgman Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East http://www.blueridgemb.com Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Tuning. (404)805-1357 97 C36 96 S600 Euro 94 E420 (Parts) 93 300SE 93 500E (Parts) 91 E300D 2.5 91 560SEC ECE 91 500SL Jap Spec 91 560SEC 226/271 90 300SL 88 300E AMG 89 190E 2.6 5sp 89 300TE 88 560SEC AMG Euro ECE (Parts) 89 560SEC AMG solid lifter 87 AMG Hammer 6.0L 32V 86 560SEL AMG 6.0L 32V ------------------------------ The MB Coupes Website! W126 SEC Coupes Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C. End of MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 65, Issue 14 **************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:39:34 -0500 From: Markus Meyer Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 65, Issue 14 To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists Message-ID: <4746a9c40912171239t6ded0030u85a7d69fc07ead0a at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Graham, Is this in the wood surround by the climate control? I will assume yes. You first need to remove that console to get at the switch from behind. To do so, you'll need to remove your ashtray insert, then remove the ashtray itself (2 screws), then pull out the radio to get at 2 screws at the bottom of the wood piece, then pull down and out to get the wood piece forward. Then disconnect all the electrical connections from behind, pull away the wood piece, replace the switch, and reassemble in reverse. Markus On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Graham Scaife wrote: > Does anybody know how to remove the hazard switch from the consul? > > Graham > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:21:04 +0200 From: Vance Rowley Subject: [W126 Coupe] lazy transmission To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Not heard from anyone in a while. Had problems with my email, so changed it. Anyway, getting back to the subject, I have recently been having what I would call lazy shifting with the transmission. There is no slipping and seems fine on starting off as normal (in 2nd as it does) and also seems fine by flooring it to get 1st and then back to 2nd. But then (under normal acceleration) it can't seem to make up it's mind when to shift to 3rd, although this isn't as bad as it is from 3rd to 4th. Even after reaching a constant speed of say 30mph in 3rd (and the E/S switch set at E) most of the time it will just stay in 3rd and not drop into 4th. Sometimes it will, but most of the time I have to blip the throttle a little, then ease off for it to drop into 4th. Sometimes even this doesn't work. Summary is all downshifts seem fine and upshift from 1st to 2nd is perfect. Upshift from 2nd to 3rd is OK most of the time, but upshift from 3rd to 4th depends on what mood it's in at the time. Should I just change my tranny fluid and filter, or is there some other explanation for this? Cheers, Vance 91 560sec euro _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:27:51 -0500 From: Markus Meyer Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] lazy transmission To: vance.rowley at thestart.eu, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists Message-ID: <4746a9c40912180827n13c3e329h526fdc4f0ea2e422 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When is the last time you changed your trans oil and filter? If more than 25-30K miles ago, its time. I found when I switched all my vehicles over to synthetic they responded quite well and shifted better, your experience may vary. Markus 2009/12/18 Vance Rowley > Not heard from anyone in a while. Had problems with my email, so changed > it. > Anyway, getting back to the subject, I have recently been having what I > would call lazy shifting with the transmission. There is no slipping and > seems fine on starting off as normal (in 2nd as it does) and also seems fine > by flooring it to get 1st and then back to 2nd. But then (under > normal acceleration) it can't seem to make up it's mind when to shift to > 3rd, although this isn't as bad as it is from 3rd to 4th. Even after > reaching a constant speed of say 30mph in 3rd (and the E/S switch set at E) > most of the time it will just stay in 3rd and not drop into 4th. Sometimes > it will, but most of the time I have to blip the throttle a little, then > ease off for it to drop into 4th. Sometimes even this doesn't work. > Summary is all downshifts seem fine and upshift from 1st to 2nd is perfect. > Upshift from 2nd to 3rd is OK most of the time, but upshift from 3rd to 4th > depends on what mood it's in at the time. > Should I just change my tranny fluid and filter, or is there some other > explanation for this? > > Cheers, > Vance > 91 560sec euro > > ------------------------------ > Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. > > The MB Coupes Website! > W126 SEC Mailing List > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ The MB Coupes Website! W126 SEC Coupes Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C. End of MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 65, Issue 15 ****************************************
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