[W126 Coupe] spark plugs

Jonathan jhodgman at gmail.com
Sun Mar 2 00:30:22 EST 2008


Ronny,

I run 20/50 year round be it synthetic or dino.

Depending on the conditions you drive, 5K should be fine on syn. unless
you are putting the car under heavy load/through extreme conditions.

Jonathan

RONNY GEENEN wrote:

> Jonathan,

> I followed your discussion. You mentioned it is better to use 20/50 oil.

> Is that just the normal oil? I use for my cars only full synthetic oil

> and change it every 5,000 miles.

>

> Ronny

> Glendora, Ca 91740

> 1987 560 SEC

> 1984 300 SD

>

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> *From:* Jonathan <mailto:jhodgman at gmail.com>

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> *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:08 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] spark plugs

>

> Hello Bill,

>

> Yes, All M116/117's need the same looking after in regards to the

> timing chain/tensioner/guide rails/oil line clips. Aside from

> getting the job done it is of Utmost importance to use Genuine

> guides as well as a Genuine tensioner.

>

> 15/40 is good, you may find 20/50 even better. For off the shelf

> oil that still meets the needs of our engines (re, zinc/phosphate

> etc..) I've been using Valvoline Racing 20/50.

>

> Shrouding is what happens when you have Large amounts of deposits

> forming on your spark plugs..to the point where they cover the

> electrode and form an actual cover/shroud over the tip.

>

> Jonathan

>

> Bill Reford wrote:

>> Hi Jonathan,

>>

>> We just did a timing chain (172,00KM)(108,000 Miles) and she will

>> be re-assembled shortly, I was interested to see what shape the

>> chain/tensioner etc, was in.(fear of the unknown)

>>

>> The chain showed some wear (minor) the rest of it showed very

>> little wear (pleasently surprised, as per the lists dialogue over

>> the years) (replaced everything anyway), I believe that the car

>> has had an easy life, judging by the engine internals, and by the

>> history that I got when I imported the car from Germany in 2000

>> and the service by me since then.

>>

>> The plugs look good after 15,000 km (since the last change)

>> (light brown and with no oil deposits appearing)

>>

>> Question ... I have a 1990 560 SEL (US) as well, with similar

>> mileage, (milage is accurate) with regular service by MB since

>> new. Does the timing chain and their components wear the same as

>> on a 1995 euro 500 ? should I assume that the chain needs

>> attention ?

>>

>> I use Castrol 15W40 and change every 5000 KM. (in the winter they

>> are both garage queens)

>>

>> What is shrouding ??

>>

>> Bill

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* Jonathan <mailto:jhodgman at gmail.com>

>> *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>> <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:50 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] spark plugs

>>

>> Hello Bill,

>>

>> I would just keep an eye on your plugs..If when you inspect

>> them you are starting to see deposits form then I'd make the

>> switch to the BP5's. Also, if it gets Really bad close the

>> gap down to about .028-.030. That will help prevent

>> shrouding etc.

>>

>> What weight oil are you running? How many k's since your

>> last oil change?

>>

>> Jonathan

>>

>> Bill Reford wrote:

>>> Jonathan,

>>>

>>> At what mileage or kilometer reading should one choose NGK

>>> BP5ES (for tired valve guides) ?? My 85 500 SEC euro is

>>> starting to puff smoke (1 or 2 seconds) at startup, when

>>> sitting overnight only.

>>>

>>> Bill

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> *From:* Jonathan Hodgman <mailto:jhodgman at gmail.com>

>>> *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>> <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:41 PM

>>> *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] spark plugs

>>>

>>>

>>> NGk Bp6ES or 5 ES if you valve guides are getting tired..

>>>

>>>

>>> Jonathna

>>>

>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Gary

>>> <garysalas at yahoo.com <mailto:garysalas at yahoo.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> my store no longer sells the bosch so what's another

>>> plug?

>>>

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>> 1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"

>> 1991 560 SEC Euro ECE Conv. (for sale)

>> 1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs (TT conversion IP)

>> 1989 560 SEC Euro ECE *Parts*

>> 1988 300 TE

>> 1989 560 SEC AMG (Mech.lifter/radical cam conv.)

>> 1987 AMG Hammer 6.0L 32V

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> 1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"

> 1991 560 SEC Euro ECE Conv. (for sale)

> 1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs (TT conversion IP)

> 1989 560 SEC Euro ECE *Parts*

> 1988 300 TE

> 1989 560 SEC AMG (Mech.lifter/radical cam conv.)

> 1987 AMG Hammer 6.0L 32V

> 1986 560 SEL 6.0L 32V AMG

> 1980 280 SE Euro

> 2006 Z4 3.0Si M-Spec

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1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"
1991 560 SEC Euro ECE Conv. (for sale)
1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs (TT conversion IP)
1989 560 SEC Euro ECE *Parts*
1988 300 TE
1989 560 SEC AMG (Mech.lifter/radical cam conv.)
1987 AMG Hammer 6.0L 32V
1986 560 SEL 6.0L 32V AMG
1980 280 SE Euro
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