[W126 Coupe] Status?
rrshayegan at wm.edu
rrshayegan at wm.edu
Tue Jul 1 17:06:42 EDT 2008
Yeah, letting the engine warm up is no problem. I wonder why with all the other problems the last engine had though this wasn't one of them? Just because there was so much gap in the piston:cylinder clearance that there was less friction?
The idle control unit I'm talking about is the black box at the firewall. I have the website saved on my computer at home of a shop that sells rebuilt idle control units and on their boxes there is an adjustment screw to change the idle.
---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:40:52 -0400
>From: "Noel C. Coulantes" <noel at noels.com>
>Subject: RE: RE: Status?
>To: <rrshayegan at wm.edu>
>
>I have the left air cleaner snorkeling coming.
>Your front suspension needs the left and right inner lower control arm
>bushings. You need the L & R upper control arms. You need the L & R lower
>outer ball joints (installed with special press tool). And you need the
>L & R rear caster joints (look like the size of a softball, with stud) that
>are diagonally rear on the frame behind the lower control arms. I would
>replace the wheel bearings and seals, if not done already. Use only Mercedes
>
>parts.
>
>It's too close to July 4th to get the car shipped (the truckers basically
>show up when they can, unless you want to double the transport cost). I'll
>get a quote going for you.
>
>I am at a crossroads with the tuning. Being basically lazy (just kidding),
>I managed to achieve warm running to the point where I can't seem to improve
>that. I have good sparkplug coloration, good performance, reasonable idle.
>I have fussed with the idle air (and RPM), to the point that warm running is
>
>reasonable, with a question mark there when you have the A/C on. It still
>idles OK with the A/C, just rougher. ON THE OTHER HAND, the dead cold
>running is poor, poor enough that it has all my attention. Strangely enough,
>
>the mixture (or rather, lack of cold enrichment) is not the issue. The
>engine is so ragged, cold, it was stalling when you drove a 100' and came to
>an idle. So, now I think I fixed it from stalling cold, if I left the
>electronic idle (round cylinder) disconnected (wide open), but then it's
>idling at 1,000 RPM warm. I have the electronic control attached, and
>roughly 700 in neutral, 600 in gear, damn near perfect warm. Are you going
>to be able to warm this car up, because of these wild cams? I would consider
>the car almost dangerous dead cold. Can you take responsibility for that
>warming up? You mentioned an idle controller to replace the factory
>cylinder. What is that? I'll keep working on that cold running.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rrshayegan at wm.edu [mailto:rrshayegan at wm.edu]
>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:02 PM
>To: noel at noels.com
>Subject: RE: RE: Status?
>
>Ok, I can clear $700 without a problem so feel free to charge that to the
>same card. One thing I can spot that you forgot though: the snorkeling for
>the driver's side of the air intake. Also, did you get a chance to make a
>list of the suspension parts I need to replace (looking over the stuff I had
>already bought to swap in, all I have other than shocks are the various
>pieces that attach to the shocks)?
>
>Could you also look into getting the car shipped up to Durham NC for me?
>
>Ideal would be to 27707 (Durham, NC) on a weekday this week after 6pm. Less
>ideal would be 27601 (Raleigh, NC) during business hours on a weekday. I
>have a 6am flight to Dallas, TX Thursday July 3, returning 10pm Sunday
>night, which is why the weekend doesn't work, so if they can't do it before
>then it will have to be next week. On the shipping, let me know before you
>charge me for it - I may have to have you put some of it on a credit card
>rather than the card attached to my checking account (which is the number
>you have).
>
>Thanks,
>Richard
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:33:35 -0400
>>From: "Noel C. Coulantes" <noel at noels.com>
>>Subject: RE: RE: Status?
>>To: <rrshayegan at wm.edu>
>>
>>Richard
>>Sorry, the slot head still exists, works fine. I'll get the repair kit for
>>you (leave the steel ball out), but it will take you ~ hour to chisel loose
>
>>the "break off" bolts, that now do not have heads. The big key there, is
>>don't get metal in the engine.
>>
>>I am going to shotgun blast the tail-end of your bill. If I forgot
>>something, it's on me............
>>
>>A bunch of stuff was included.....anti-freeze.....top-up oils.
>>The extra parts (forgive me if I forgot something) included all the
>>anti-freeze hoses, particularly the hidden below the windshield cowl hoses,
>>the trans front seal, pan gasket, filter, Mobil 1 synthetic ATF, soft P/S
>>hoses, soft trans hoses, a fuel filter, an A/C drier, R134a, cleaning the
>>radiator by a local plastic radiator shop = $400 at my out of pocket pure
>>cost. I am going to limit the extra labor for Ross, "above and beyond", to
>>3 hours = $300. That makes the extra, outside of the engine = $700 even and
>>I am drawing a line and do not intend to make the bill larger. I may have
>>Ross fuss over very minor details (vacuum plugs, routing of stuff).
>>
>>I have to fuss with more tuning ~ 2 or 3 hours or so. We ran a water rich
>>cooling anti-freeze to get rid of the acid or whatever was in the cooling
>>system. We're going to dump that later today and run 100% Mercedes
>>anti-freeze. I think we are done..................
>>Thanks
>>Noel
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rrshayegan at wm.edu [mailto:rrshayegan at wm.edu]
>>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:54 AM
>>To: noel at noels.com
>>Subject: RE: RE: Status?
>>
>>I may just do it at a track then - back when it was still a 380 I managed
>to
>>shave a half second off the quarter mile with nothing more than the 3mm hex
>>(speaking of which, is my fuel distributor back to the proper hex head
>>adjustment?)
>>
>>---- Original message ----
>>>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:42:46 -0400
>>>From: "Noel C. Coulantes" <noel at noels.com>
>>>Subject: RE: RE: Status?
>>>To: <rrshayegan at wm.edu>
>>>
>>>"Dyno" is my middle name, but highly over rated if the dyno person does
>>>not know how to tune. Examples of when the dynamometer does not play a
>>role,
>>>are cold running, and acceleration. So, experience teaches you how to deal
>>>with that. If you over do those, fuel mileage goes out the window, as
>well.
>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: rrshayegan at wm.edu [mailto:rrshayegan at wm.edu]
>>>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:31 AM
>>>To: noel at noels.com
>>>Subject: Fwd: RE: Status?
>>>
>>>I read you loud and clear on the warmup. Never driven a hot cam engine
>>other
>>>than an old Porsche that had been swapped to webber carbs, but that car
>was
>>>just plain different.
>>>
>>>I'd say I'm more mechanically able than the vast majority of people (On
>>that
>>>car I've done all the maintenance before the first engine swap except for
>>>brake fluid changes because I don't have a bleed kit, and I've also done
>>>things like change out the fuel injectors, change the window regulators,
>>>swapped the interior out with one from a different car which required also
>>>swapping the individual seat motors), but I didn't exactly go to BMWs tech
>>>school.
>>>
>>>If what you're getting at is am I comfortable with adjusting timing and
>>>mixture, I am, but I've been told you get better results when you do it on
>>a
>>>dyno.
>>>
>>>---- Original message ----
>>>>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:04:29 -0400
>>>>From: "Noel C. Coulantes" <noel at noels.com>
>>>>Subject: RE: Status?
>>>>To: "'Richard Shayegan'" <rrshayegan at wm.edu>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how many "hot cam" engines you have
>>>> driven, but this motor likes to be warmed up. I
>>>> agree with your Dad.
>>>>
>>>> The motor cold is either struggling to idle or tends
>>>> to "blast off" as you depress more and more on the
>>>> gas pedal, the motor hesitates,
>>>>
>>>> and then "blasts off" when it is cold. It runs close
>>>> to normal when warmed up. You have someone's rebuilt
>>>> warm-running regulator (right front of intake),
>>>>
>>>> and I am hesitant to tamper with it (they sealed
>>>> it).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any mechanical ability? The issue is,
>>>> since you are the driver, you could conceivably do
>>>> some tuning work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think 15W-50 most of the time, 0W-40 in winter
>>>> conditions.
>>>>
>>>> I should be able to look at whatever additional
>>>> parts and labor this morning.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Noel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: Richard Shayegan [mailto:rrshayegan at wm.edu]
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:15 PM
>>>> To: Noel C. Coulantes
>>>> Subject: Re: Status?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, will do. Two things I want to check. Should I
>>>> always give it a minute or two warm-up, or just when
>>>> breaking in (ol' dad always said 30 seconds in the
>>>> summer to 1 minute in the winter is why I ask). Also
>>>> any weight you recommend in particular for the
>>>> mid-atlantic? Coldest it gets in the winter is low
>>>> 20's, but in the summer we can hit 100. In the old
>>>> 380 engine which couldn't run synthetic without
>>>> making a mess of my driveway (rear main seal), I'd
>>>> run 10-40 mineral in the winter and 20-50 mineral
>>>> in the summer. In this engine I figure on Mobil 1
>>>> 15w-50 year round?
>>>>
>>>> BTW, if you come up with a final amount owed don't
>>>> be a stranger, feel free to call me on my cell too
>>>> (301) 873-2823- I was fixing to return the rental
>>>> car tomorrow, but if the I still owe is less than
>>>> what I have, I can hold onto it for a few more days,
>>>> and if the amount I owe is more than I have by less
>>>> than $525 I can tell the guy I sublet from that I'll
>>>> pay him when I get paid next Friday.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> Noel C. Coulantes wrote, On 6/27/2008 5:34 PM:
>>>>
>>>> So, here is what I recommend. Change the engine oil with mineral oil at
>~
>>>>
>>>> 1,000 miles, and
>>>>
>>>> every 3,000 miles thereafter with Mobil 1 synthetic.
>>>>
>>>> Do 30,000 with Mobil 1 synthetic Auto Transmission Fluid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Break in - drive normally,and 10 seconds here, 10 seconds there of
>>>>
>>>> full throttle (in a safe manner), like on an interstate on-ramp.
>>>>
>>>> Don't drive full throttle for long periods. Don't baby the engine,
>>either.
>>>>
>>>> Don't do the elaborate break-in you described. Do warm up the engine at
>>>>
>>>> least a minute or two, before the first drive in the morning, then drive
>>>>
>>>> normally.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: rrshayegan at wm.edu [mailto:rrshayegan at wm.edu]
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:09 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: noel at noels.com
>>>>
>>>> Subject: RE: Status?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One more thing. When you get a chance could you tell me what your
>>>>
>>>> recommended maintenance is? I was thinking oil change with some
>>>conventional
>>>>
>>>> 10-40 + GM EOS at 500 miles, change to Mobil 1 at 1000 miles, fresh
>Mobil
>>>1
>>>>
>>>> at the 2000 mile mark, and from then on do Mobil 1 every 4000 miles. I
>>was
>>>>
>>>> also figuring to change the transmission fluid to Mobil 1 after 20k
>>miles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On spark plugs I was thinking whatever I had in there (I don't have them
>>>in
>>>>
>>>> front of me, but IIRC they are NGK non-resistor plugs 1 level cooler
>than
>>>>
>>>> the factory recommendation for US cars).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On break in, my philosophy is never go above 2000rpm for the first 500
>>>>
>>>> miles, vary the speed and only do city driving, then for the second 500
>>>>
>>>> miles never go over 3500 rpm, still varying the speed and city driving,
>>>and
>>>>
>>>> then after 1000 miles start to give it some more throttle but no
>high-rpm
>>>or
>>>>
>>>> full throttle until 2000 miles and after 2000 miles the car is good to
>>go.
>>>>
>>>> Sound good to you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:17:58 -0400
>>>>
>>>> From: "Noel C. Coulantes" <noel at noels.com>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: RE: Status?
>>>>
>>>> To: "'Richard Shayegan'" <rrshayegan at wm.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> I have been working on your car, not your bill. I got all the
>>>>
>>>> basic tuning, initial timing, vacuum lines, even worked on the A/C.
>>>>
>>>> The engine seems to be doing just fine, just plagued by those cams.
>>>>
>>>> CIS injection is very sensitive to how much cam, and your engine has the
>>>>
>>>> right basic mixture, but is a little hard to get a reasonable idle. The
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> idle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> is a little rough, and the electronic idle control simply does not work
>>>>
>>>> correctly. All the idle control parts are silly in price, and I have
>done
>>>>
>>>> the default thing, I disconnected the idle servo (round thing dead
>center
>>>>
>>>> front on intake). Then the idle, with no A/C compressor on, is ~900 RPM,
>>>>
>>>> which is slightly too fast, makes the car minorly clunk when you put it
>>in
>>>>
>>>> gear or reverse. The A/C appears to work mechanically and I even looked
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> dye and a black lamp for leaks and found none. The R134a conversion was
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> done
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> correctly (I don't really need to say that), and the real issue with the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A/C
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> is what is called "control" and/or vacuum leaks in the dash area. So, to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fix
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> your A/C, a mechanic would find all the vacuum leaks and replace all the
>>>>
>>>> vacuum servos (which are the leaks) first. There might be an issue with
>>>the
>>>>
>>>> push-button unit, which would emerge only after the vacuum is fixed (but
>>I
>>>>
>>>> think it may also be fine, don't get nervous). I have done what I can on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A/C, but the heat is on at the same time as the A/C, and more than half
>>>the
>>>>
>>>> air blows at the windshield, all indicating those vacuum leaks. But the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> air is mixed with hot air and the net result is "not cold A/C out the
>>>>
>>>> vents".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your transmission is actually doing well. It has no leaks, and I have
>>>>
>>>> adjusted "when" it shifts slightly later than stock, and "how hard"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> slightly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> harder than stock. The shifts are equal, a good thing, and does not
>slip.
>>>>
>>>> I could have made the adjustments Granny stock, but I knew you would
>>>prefer
>>>>
>>>> what I did, and I can show you those adjustment places, not hard to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Power steering is working well, no leaks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless you tell me otherwise (and we are way behind on engine building),
>>I
>>>>
>>>> think your car is ready for you and can be driven on the road, which I
>>was
>>>>
>>>> not comfortable in committing to until now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to get to your bill later today.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Noel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: Richard Shayegan [mailto:rrshayegan at wm.edu]
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:12 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: Noel C. Coulantes
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Status?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, sounds goods, just checking in. Let me know when the additional
>>>>
>>>> costs eclipse the $1000 mark (and each successive time it does that...if
>>>>
>>>> it does...though I really hope it doesn't, because as it stands I don't
>>>>
>>>> have that just yet).
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Noel C. Coulantes wrote, On 6/26/2008 10:56 AM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>> Starts and runs well, sorry I have not been near my email computer for a
>>>>
>>>> while.
>>>>
>>>> Transmission is bone dry so far. Fussing over routing of fuel lines,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> spark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> plug wires, other details. Even though I participated in the crank up,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> know the lifters are quiet and the engine is running on 8 cylinders, I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> not done any tune work. Will keep you posted. You will owe (very
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> reasonable)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> extra shop labor to fix things (outside the build as one-piece and swap)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> by
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> my superstar Ross, but you get me for free, whatever time I put on
>tuning
>>>>
>>>> and other stuff. I must say you have been very patient, and I'll try to
>>>>
>>>> reciprocate with some attention to detail.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Noel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: rrshayegan at wm.edu [mailto:rrshayegan at wm.edu]
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:56 AM
>>>>
>>>> To: noel at noels.com
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Status?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still no start?
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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