[W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem - now sunroof

[Mike R.]

OK, I'll help when I can. It's about 60 here in Vegas, so I'd suggest bringing the car down here and we'll give it a go. 

Take care,
Mike R.
Las Vegas (the warm, benevolent God's country!!) :-)
Ex - Detroit
Ex - Sault Ste. Marie
Ex - Cleveland (VERY ex)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Camran Nassiri 
  To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem - now sunroof


  I'll follow Markus's recommendations and if to no avail I'll call you in a couple of days.  Once we can dig ourselves out of 3 feet of snow we just got dumped on up here in North Idaho (God's country)!!
  Thanks,
  Camran




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    From: mramay at att.biz
    To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
    Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:06:49 -0800
    Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem - now sunroof


    Camran,
    Give me a call and I'll see if I remember enough to be useful to you. Markus's suggestions are great, try them first.

    Later,
    Mike R.
    (702) 494-8056
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Camran Nassiri 
      To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
      Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem


      Thanks dick for your response.  I hope that Mike may response to this question.

      Thanks,
      Camran
      90 560SEC
      91 420SEL

      > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:34:09 -0500
      > From: spell.yy at verizon.net
      > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
      > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem
      > 
      > Hi Camran,
      > 
      > I really have limited experience on the sunroof where all of mine work 
      > properly. I did remove a complete sunroof assembly and send to Mike 
      > Ramay who walked me through the r&r. I'd say he is the best resource 
      > for resolving your issue.
      > 
      > Regards,
      > 
      > Dick
      > 
      > Camran Nassiri wrote:
      > > Hi Dick- On my 90 560SEC I can tilt the back of the sunroof but can't 
      > > open the sunroof. 
      > > When I have someone push the button I can hear the motor but the roof 
      > > doesn't open.
      > > Any idea what the problem is?
      > >
      > > Thanks,
      > > Camran
      > > 90 560SEC
      > > 91 420SEL
      > >
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      > > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:48:06 -0500
      > > From: spell.yy at verizon.net
      > > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
      > > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem
      > >
      > > Hi Jeff,
      > >
      > > Glad to hear you are still driving that 500euro sec. I had a worn
      > > switch cover and intermittent operation on my SEC and simply
      > > replaced the entire switch where I wanted the button face to be
      > > new. I would replace the fuse first (all fuses if you have not
      > > already done so) and if the problem persists, check the electrical
      > > connector and fiber on the back are firmly attached. Worse case,
      > > the switch can be removed, cleaned and reinstalled. The cover
      > > comes off with a pick to either side of the plastic hinge. You
      > > can also locate a used switch at a wreckers yard from any early
      > > 126 chassis as I did from an 85 500SEL.
      > >
      > > Sounds like the motor linkage and rails are allowing for smooth
      > > operation so, leave well enough alone. It does not hurt to do the
      > > MB grease (ask Jonathan) on the rails as per the cd manual every
      > > year at the same time you blow out the drains.
      > >
      > > Good luck,
      > >
      > > Dick
      > >
      > > jeffrey maniff wrote:
      > >
      > > Dick -
      > > Any chance you would know why my sunroof (all of a sudden) is
      > > beginning to work and then not work. Is it the switch, a fuse
      > > or the mechanism. If you don't remember me, i am the guy who
      > > grew up on green street around the corner from you with the
      > > euro version 500SEC (1985). I use my sunroof constantly but
      > > notice lately that it will not work and then 10 minutes later
      > > it opens and closes with good speed.
      > > Any thoughts,
      > > Thanks
      > > Jeff (jsman24 at hotmail.com <mailto:jsman24 at hotmail.com>) if you
      > > prefer
      > >
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:20:45 -0500
      > > From: spell.yy at verizon.net <mailto:spell.yy at verizon.net>
      > > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
      > > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem
      > >
      > > Hi Tom,
      > >
      > > I have not tried the following but, you have nothing to
      > > lose. Trigger the extender to move forward and grab a
      > > hold of the arm and pull with minimal force to see if you
      > > can actually take the arm past it's normal stop to fully
      > > remove.
      > >
      > > Failing this effort, you have no choice but, to remove the
      > > rear seat, side panel and extender motor with the broken
      > > arm. Then finding a used arm, set it up on a bench and
      > > test before re-installing. It's been many years since I
      > > did those Autolux aluminum gears so, please see the
      > > instructions on the MBCoupes main webpage under 'repairs'
      > > if you determine it's time to replace the one nylon gear
      > > in the original motor assembly. I'd look the whole affair
      > > over to be sure it will be in perfect working order when
      > > your repair has been made.
      > >
      > > Best regards,
      > >
      > > Dick
      > >
      > > armtoelsner at comcast.net <mailto:armtoelsner at comcast.net>
      > > wrote:
      > >
      > > Dick,
      > > The end of the arm actually broke, with the small part
      > > of the arm broken off inside the triangle shaped tip.
      > > So the entire arm needs to be replaced. The arm moves
      > > and retracts fine. It is just that when it is
      > > retracted, the belt that has been extended to go
      > > around my ample girth :-)) often doesn't completely
      > > recoil.
      > > Tom
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message --------------
      > > From: Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>
      > > <mailto:spell.yy at verizon.net>
      > > Hi Tom,
      > >
      > > That seatbelt triangle shaped tip at the end of the
      > > arm extension is a replaceable part. Try either a
      > > wrecker yard or the local MB dealer or perhaps
      > > Jonathan. The center on one of the legs of the
      > > triangle /should/ have a snap in piece that permits
      > > sliding the tip through the belt webbing. I'd be
      > > guessing that the floor bolt is also visible on the
      > > lap belt and can be removed with the tri then slid
      > > over, not sure as I have not been in my coupe in some
      > > time. This presumes nothing is lodge in the opening
      > > that you can't break free without removing the rear
      > > side panel.
      > >
      > > As for slow operation. It's is probably a really good
      > > idea to lube up the teeth on the extension and pray
      > > the original nylon gear to metal gear is not too badly
      > > worn from the stress of pushing pulling the arm on
      > > aged grease. I use that MB slide paste stu ff on all
      > > these kinds of things. Don't know if there is
      > > anything else that would last as long.
      > >
      > > Regards,
      > > Dick
      > >
      > > toelsner at comcast.net <mailto:toelsner at comcast.net> wrote:
      > >
      > > Group,
      > > The guide the seat belt goes through on the
      > > driver's side broke off from the presenter
      > > arm. The motor itself is fine and the arm
      > > extends and retracts with no problem. Does
      > > anybody have the documented procedure for
      > > replacing the arm? Do I need to remove the
      > > inside rear panel to gain access? If so, does
      > > anybody have instructions?
      > > 
      > > Also, is it common for the seat belts
      > > themselves to retract/coil at a snails pace?
      > > Or leave part of it not completely retracted?
      > > Is there a fix for this? Thanks again to all.
      > > 
      > > Tom Oelsner
      > >
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      > > Subject:
      > > Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem
      > > From:
      > > Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>
      > > <mailto:spell.yy at verizon.net>
      > > Date:
      > > Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:39:38 +0000
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