[W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem

[jeffrey maniff]

Camran - 
I polled the audience yesterday and was hoping Dick would answer me too.  I have a euro version 1985 500SEC and my sunroof only recently stopped working but after a few minutes and a few pressings of the button, it works again.  It is smooth with no noise but i don't understand the intermittency.  Do you? or anyone else for that matter.
Thanks,
jeff


From: mbzman560 at hotmail.comTo: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.comDate: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:06:15 -0800Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem


Thanks dick for your response.  I hope that Mike may response to this question.Thanks,Camran90 560SEC91 420SEL> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:34:09 -0500> From: spell.yy at verizon.net> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem> > Hi Camran,> > I really have limited experience on the sunroof where all of mine work > properly. I did remove a complete sunroof assembly and send to Mike > Ramay who walked me through the r&r. I'd say he is the best resource > for resolving your issue.> > Regards,> > Dick> > Camran Nassiri wrote:> > Hi Dick- On my 90 560SEC I can tilt the back of the sunroof but can't > > open the sunroof. > > When I have someone push the button I can hear the motor but the roof > > doesn't open.> > Any idea what the problem is?> >> > Thanks,> > Camran> > 90 560SEC> > 91 420SEL> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:48:06 -0500> > From: spell.yy at verizon.net> > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem> >> > Hi Jeff,> >> > Glad to hear you are still driving that 500euro sec. I had a worn> > switch cover and intermittent operation on my SEC and simply> > replaced the entire switch where I wanted the button face to be> > new. I would replace the fuse first (all fuses if you have not> > already done so) and if the problem persists, check the electrical> > connector and fiber on the back are firmly attached. Worse case,> > the switch can be removed, cleaned and reinstalled. The cover> > comes off with a pick to either side of the plastic hinge. You> > can also locate a used switch at a wreckers yard from any early> > 126 chassis as I did from an 85 500SEL.> >> > Sounds like the motor linkage and rails are allowing for smooth> > operation so, leave well enough alone. It does not hurt to do the> > MB grease (ask Jonathan) on the rails as per the cd manual every> > year at the same time you blow out the drains.> >> > Good luck,> >> > Dick> >> > jeffrey maniff wrote:> >> > Dick -> > Any chance you would know why my sunroof (all of a sudden) is> > beginning to work and then not work. Is it the switch, a fuse> > or the mechanism. If you don't remember me, i am the guy who> > grew up on green street around the corner from you with the> > euro version 500SEC (1985). I use my sunroof constantly but> > notice lately that it will not work and then 10 minutes later> > it opens and closes with good speed.> > Any thoughts,> > Thanks> > Jeff (jsman24 at hotmail.com <mailto:jsman24 at hotmail.com>) if you> > prefer> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:20:45 -0500> > From: spell.yy at verizon.net <mailto:spell.yy at verizon.net>> > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>> > Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem> >> > Hi Tom,> >> > I have not tried the following but, you have nothing to> > lose. Trigger the extender to move forward and grab a> > hold of the arm and pull with minimal force to see if you> > can actually take the arm past it's normal stop to fully> > remove.> >> > Failing this effort, you have no choice but, to remove the> > rear seat, side panel and extender motor with the broken> > arm. Then finding a used arm, set it up on a bench and> > test before re-installing. It's been many years since I> > did those Autolux aluminum gears so, please see the> > instructions on the MBCoupes main webpage under 'repairs'> > if you determine it's time to replace the one nylon gear> > in the original motor assembly. I'd look the whole affair> > over to be sure it will be in perfect working order when> > your repair has been made.> >> > Best regards,> >> > Dick> >> > armtoelsner at comcast.net <mailto:armtoelsner at comcast.net>> > wrote:> >> > Dick,> > The end of the arm actually broke, with the small part> > of the arm broken off inside the triangle shaped tip.> > So the entire arm needs to be replaced. The arm moves> > and retracts fine. It is just that when it is> > retracted, the belt that has been extended to go> > around my ample girth :-)) often doesn't completely> > recoil.> > Tom> > > > -------------- Original message --------------> > From: Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>> > <mailto:spell.yy at verizon.net>> > Hi Tom,> >> > That seatbelt triangle shaped tip at the end of the> > arm extension is a replaceable part. Try either a> > wrecker yard or the local MB dealer or perhaps> > Jonathan. The center on one of the legs of the> > triangle /should/ have a snap in piece that permits> > sliding the tip through the belt webbing. I'd be> > guessing that the floor bolt is also visible on the> > lap belt and can be removed with the tri then slid> > over, not sure as I have not been in my coupe in some> > time. This presumes nothing is lodge in the opening> > that you can't break free without removing the rear> > side panel.> >> > As for slow operation. It's is probably a really good> > idea to lube up the teeth on the extension and pray> > the original nylon gear to metal gear is not too badly> > worn from the stress of pushing pulling the arm on> > aged grease. I use that MB slide paste stu ff on all> > these kinds of things. Don't know if there is> > anything else that would last as long.> >> > Regards,> > Dick> >> > toelsner at comcast.net <mailto:toelsner at comcast.net> wrote:> >> > Group,> > The guide the seat belt goes through on the> > driver's side broke off from the presenter> > arm. The motor itself is fine and the arm> > extends and retracts with no problem. Does> > anybody have the documented procedure for> > replacing the arm? Do I need to remove the> > inside rear panel to gain access? If so, does> > anybody have instructions?> > > > Also, is it common for the seat belts> > themselves to retract/coil at a snails pace?> > Or leave part of it not completely retracted?> > Is there a fix for this? Thanks again to all.> > > > Tom Oelsner> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > The MB Coupes Website!> > W126 SEC Mailing List> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Subject:> > Re: [W126 Coupe] Seat Belt Presenter Problem> > From:> > Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>> > <mailto:spell.yy at verizon.net>> > Date:> > Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:39:38 +0000> > To:> > Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>> > <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>> >> > To:> > Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>> > <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>> >> >> > The MB Coupes Website!> > W126 SEC Mailing List> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > The MB Coupes Website!> > W126 SEC Mailing List> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. 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