[W126 Coupe] Rear Window Seal Rust

[Jonathan]

Well, there have been far more extensively documented failures in 
Mercedes history..i.e. early 90's wiring harnesses/evaps, early M113 
harmonic damper, W210 spring perch failures etc, etc...

Given the age of the car I can say w/ almost utter certainty they will 
tell you you're on your own.

Best of Luck with the repair,

Jonathan

Mark Carbone wrote:

> Gentlemen - 

>

> Thanks for all the feedback - will have it checked out and insure a 

> professional glass guy is used - would like to see MB take some 

> responsibility - I'm going to call them and see what they have to say 

> - what can I lose!!

>

> Mark

> On Jan 21, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Carl Hansen wrote:

>

>> All the more I think we ought to raise hell with the factory.

>>  

>> Carl Hansen

>>

>>     ----- Original Message -----

>>     *From:* Markus Meyer <mailto:mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com>

>>     *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>     *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2008 4:27 PM

>>     *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear Window Seal Rust

>>

>>     Its not just the SECs, one of my two SELs has the same problem as

>>     well (as did my SEC which I just had fixed, SEL is in the

>>     future).  Of course my wrecked SEC does NOT have that problem, go

>>     figure...!

>>

>>     Markus Meyer

>>     mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com

>>     <mailto:mfm at meyerprobateproperties.com>

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>>         -------- Original Message --------

>>         Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear Window Seal Rust

>>         From: "Carl Hansen" <c.c.hansen at cogeco.ca

>>         <mailto:c.c.hansen at cogeco.ca>>

>>         Date: Mon, January 21, 2008 3:44 pm

>>         To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>>         <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>>

>>

>>         With this problem seemingly happening to every last SEC, this

>>         must surely be considered a design flaw and therefore

>>         the responsibility of Mercedes-Benz.

>>         These cars were considered top of the line, the flagship

>>         model where nothing was spared to build a car as close to

>>         perfection as humanly possible. Certainly the price for these

>>         cars when new reflected that. Many of them have very low

>>         mileage less than 100,000 and most have been pampered, never

>>         seen snow or rain and rarely used for anything but pleasure,

>>         tucked away under cover in a garage during winter months. 

>>         As a club of this size we should have a certain amount

>>         of influence to convince the factory that they provide some

>>         assistance for example make parts available at cost if

>>         nothing else.

>>         Some years ago the factory provided new aluminum bumpers that

>>         corroded due to interaction between the aluminum and the

>>         steel fastenings.

>>          

>>         Carl Hansen 

>>

>>             ----- Original Message -----

>>             *From:* DCrawford at tompkinsinc.com

>>             <mailto:DCrawford at tompkinsinc.com>

>>             *To:* mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>             *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2008 2:00 PM

>>             *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear Window Seal Rust

>>

>>             Mike;

>>             A picture is worth a 1,000 words – thanks!  I have a bit

>>             of rust starting at the corners of the back window and

>>             have thought that I had some time before really needing

>>             to get it fixed.  The image of the rust migrating across

>>             the back was quite starting to say the least.  I think

>>             this repair has moved up the priority list for me.

>>             Again, thanks much,

>>             Dave Crawford

>>             84 500 SEC

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>>             *From:* Mike Taylor [mailto:Mike.Taylor at tracegroup.com] 

>>             *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2008 6:19 AM

>>             *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>             *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear Window Se al Rust

>>             Mark,

>>             I also had this done recently on my ‘88 560SEC.   Axel is

>>             right, what will double the cost is if the window cracks

>>             (I was quoted GBP1,200 or USD $2,400 in the UK for a new

>>             rear window) so the bodyshop who did the work for me

>>             brought a specialist in to take it out and replace it,

>>             and lucki ly it stayed in one piece.

>>             There is a metal strip around 2 inches wide running right

>>             across the rear of the car underneath the window, this

>>             should be replaced as it is cheap (GBP50 from MB).  The

>>             only other body part in this area is very expensive, and

>>             goes from the base of the rear window all the way across

>>             the rear shelf, and down between the petrol tank and rear

>>             seats.  This is more like GBP750 just for the panel, but

>>             things would have to be very bad for you to really need that.

>>             Mine was pretty badly rusted (picture attached) mostly

>>             invisible until they took the screen out, but the guys

>>             managed to rebuild what was needed well enough, without

>>             the need for the big panel.  Make sure the window is well

>>             (and carefully !) sealed  back in afterwards.   The

>>             labour charge for me was around GBP500, so in US terms

>>             USD1000 for the labour and re-paint, plus USD100 for the

>>             metal strip.  It also keeps the cost down if they can

>>             weld the strip each side of the car without damaging the

>>             rear quarter panel, otherwise this would need to be

>>             re-sprayed too.

>>             See the picture attached, this damage was possible to

>>             rebuild, and you can see where the metal strip goes,

>>             following the line of the blanket (this was used by the

>>             bodyshop…I do not keep an old blanket on my rear parcel

>>             shelf J  ).   Make sure they replace your boot (trunk?)

>>             seal too.

>>             Cheers,

>>             Mike

>>             <image001.jpg>

>>             *From:* mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

>>             <mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>>             <mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com%5D> *On Behalf

>>             Of *Joseph Schumann

>>             *Sent:* 21 January 2008 03:12

>>             *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>             *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear Window Seal Rust

>>             Hi:

>>

>>             I just had this done a few months ago. The prices are

>>             about right or maybe a biy on the low side.

>>

>>

>>             Joe

>>

>>             */Axel Wulff <axelwulff at hotmail.com

>>             <mailto:axelwulff at hotmail.com>>/* wrote:

>>             I thought I'd add my 2-cents to this debate.

>>              

>>             I had this problem on my car and had a body shop do the

>>             repairs.

>>              

>>             On my car the window sill had rusted through and the body

>>             shop replaced the entire sheet (you see the seams with

>>             the trunk lid open) with new metal. At the time I did not

>>             know that MB provides a replacement panel. Had I known, I

>>             would certainly have gone that way instead of letting the

>>             body sh op fabricate a piece.

>>              

>>             The entire job cost about $1,400 (paint, metal work, new

>>             window gasket, rear window in and out).

>>              

>>             However, what can turn this job into a $3,000 affair is

>>             if the rear window cracks at any point in the process. If

>>             the rear window has any deliamination (white fog

>>             along the edges), cracking is more likely to happen,

>>             resulting in the need for a new window $1,300, gasket

>>             $160 and installtion).

>>              

>>             My advice would be to find a //_very _//experienced glass

>>             guy to handle the rear window.

>>

>>             Regards, 

>>             Axel J. Wulff

>>             610-731-5453 Cellular

>>             610-572-4611 Home

>>

>>             > From: aniello3 at mac.com <mailto:aniello3 at mac.com>

>>             > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>             > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:29:15 -0800

>>             > Subject: [W126 Coupe] Rear Window Seal Rust

>>             > 

>>             > Hi All - Looking for some help to understand cost to

>>             have the rear 

>>             > window seal repaired correctly. Only visible rust i s

>>             under the center 

>>             > of the rear window, noticed when viewing from the inside

>>             of the trunk.

>>             > 

>>             > Appreciate any input.

>>             > 

>>             > Mark

>>             > Southern CA -

>>             > 1991 560SEC 81k miles

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