[W126 Coupe] 560SEC Euro

[Carl Hansen]

I live right across the border at Niagara Falls Canada, perhaps I can help.

Carl H.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC Euro



> Yep, "load of crap" is the polite version. There are different rules for 

> importing from Canada and from "Everywhere Else", but it is a full set of 

> regulations that must be met in both cases. I haven't imported one from 

> Canada so have no first hand knowledge, but I've heard that it is somewhat 

> less stringent. There is a list of RI's on the DOT web site that could be 

> queried if anyone needs specifics.

>

> That said, there is a possible way around this. The DOT and the EPA only 

> have concerns about "newer" cars. I "think" it's 25 years old and newer 

> for DOT and 21 years old and newer for EPA. If I'm right, a 26 year old 

> car or older can be imported without having to do the conversion process. 

> Couple of phone calls could verify.

>

> Later,

> Mike R.

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Iain Gunn" <igunn at bmts.com>

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:33 PM

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC Euro

>

>

>> What a load of crap you guys have to go through. Who is the government 

>> protecting? Bringing most, there's a comprehensive list, Mercedes are 

>> handled by MB Canada, for the government, cars into Canada is very simple 

>> and easy. Needs tractability of the VIN, It needs to pass a safety check 

>> and an emission check for that year. Twenty years old, only a safety.

>> What happens if you bring the car in to Canada and have it certified 

>> here, then import to the States?

>> Regards, Iain, Ontario, Canada.

>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>

>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:00 PM

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC Euro

>>

>>

>>> As an ex-employee of a Registered Importer (RI), I can verify that David 

>>> and Bruce are right on the money. All they've stated is true.

>>>

>>> It's the liability issue that is the major concern. Most insurance 

>>> companies know what a gray market is and what is required. If you have 

>>> an accident and the other party's insurance company realizes (usually 

>>> via the European VIN number) that this is an imported car, they'll call 

>>> the Department of Transportation (DOT) to verify the car's legality. If 

>>> it has NOT been converted by an RI, the VIN number will not be in the 

>>> DOT data banks and the DOT will tell the insurance company the car is in 

>>> the country illegally. At that point, your insurance becomes null and 

>>> void, retroactive to the date you purchased it. You won't get any 

>>> premiums returned and the accident is now YOUR fault since if your 

>>> illegal car wasn't there, there wouldn't be an accident. Then you'll 

>>> likely (probably) get sued.

>>>

>>> Since I'm not capable of self insuring my vehicles, I have to use a 

>>> company and follow their rules. YMMV

>>>

>>> Take care,

>>> Mike R.

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>>> From: "David G. Cole" <dc at dc-mc.com>

>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:41 AM

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC Euro

>>>

>>>

>>>>I would heed Bruce's perspective on this as he is actively involved in 

>>>>these

>>>> ventures. But I will throw in my comments as well.

>>>>

>>>> My friend while searching for an AMG Widebody car had located one 

>>>> licensed in

>>>> Virginia. This was a euro spec car, converted at the AMG facility in 

>>>> Germany with

>>>> all the associated documents. The car was brought in to Canada and then 

>>>> into

>>>> the States and licensed in Virginia. For what ever reason the lack of 

>>>> epa or dot

>>>> docs did not bother the boys at the license branch in Virginia.

>>>>

>>>> My friend and I discussed the what-ifs of this situation, but in the 

>>>> end he went

>>>> ahead and bought the car. Upon bringing it to Houston the TX state 

>>>> police did

>>>> their "check if this is a stolen car" inspection and then proceeded to 

>>>> give it a go

>>>> for texas plates. Neither the license branch or his insurance company 

>>>> voiced any

>>>> concerns over the grey market status, stating the valid virginia title 

>>>> & registration

>>>> is all we care about, history wise.

>>>>

>>>> That has been 5 yrs ago and he has not had any issues since.

>>>>

>>>> Hope this helps some.

>>>>

>>>> David Cole

>>>> '87 560SEC AMG Widebody w/ 50k miles and also originally through Canada

>>>> and other german toys...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On 23 Feb 2008 at 8:06, Bruce Mendel wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> bringing the car into the US legally requires either an exemption

>>>>> allowed by the US laws

>>>>> (diplomat, non-resident staying 6 months or less, show use only, car

>>>>> of importance, etc).

>>>>>

>>>>> If you want to title it and drive it here on a more permanent basis,

>>>>> the car must be

>>>>> brought in to the USA by a registered importer and converted to US

>>>>> laws, which is a

>>>>> $4K+ undertaking.

>>>>>

>>>>> As Jim mentions, there are "creative" ways of getting it into the

>>>>> USA, but you won't be

>>>>> able to register or title it. And if you have an accident, you will

>>>>> have huge liability issues.

>>>>>

>>>>> Bruce

>>>>>     ----- Original Message ----- 

>>>>>     From: jralex at ix.netcom.com

>>>>>     To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>>>>     Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:46 AM

>>>>>     Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC Euro

>>>>>

>>>>>     Bruce Mendel will likely chime in to help you with this

>>>>> information. If you have any diplomatic

>>>>>     connections you might be able to bypass some of our out of date

>>>>> but expensive DOT

>>>>>     requirements. You might even be able to ship to Canada and drive

>>>>> it here. There are

>>>>>     creative ways around it but others know more about it and will

>>>>> help. Jim Alexander

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>     -----Original Message----- 

>>>>>     From: Firas Al-Shatti

>>>>>     Sent: Feb 23, 2008 1:56 AM

>>>>>     To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>>>>>     Subject: [W126 Coupe] 560SEC Euro

>>>>>

>>>>>     Dear Friends,

>>>>>     I own a 560SEC Euro version and I'm planning to ship it to US

>>>>> Virginia.

>>>>>     I wonder what modifications I need to do (as per Virginia rules)

>>>>> prior to

>>>>>     shipment.

>>>>>

>>>>>     Your feedback will be highly appreciated.

>>>>>

>>>>>     Regards,

>>>>>     Firas Al-Shatti

>>>>>     Kuwait

>>>>>

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