[W126 Coupe] Wheel Shimmy Driving Me Crazy!
Alexander Hochhausl
plustech at optonline.net
Sat Nov 10 17:30:57 EST 2007
Ding, ding, ding. You are the winner or am I?
I had checked the control arm bushings before, with the car jacked up
felt fine.
Today I checked the wheel bearings, the steering play, with the car
jacked up again
bla-bla-bla nothing.
Then I dropped it down and felt the wheel play again. Out of frustration
I grabbed the upper control arm, and out-to-out, nothing, but forward
and backward 3/8 of play, if not more! Oh my god! That was the
drivers side, the passenger side, about ¼! So I took out the rubber
bushings, and saw the shiny silver tell-tale sign of movement. So while
Im waiting for the new bushings I put a pair of 5/8 washers in on each
side to increase the bushing compression. All the play is gone. I took
it for a ride, and I tell you all, it is like a new car. The vibrations
do not exist you are waiting for them, but they dont show up. I know
its normal NOT to have them, but after 5 years of dealing with it it
is simply AMAZING smooth as silk I am in heaven!
So I probably spent $300 over the past 5 years on a problem that $0.30
of washers fixed.
Jonathan and the rest of you all that gave me advice I am truly in
your debt. I cant tell you how many experts I have been to that
either told be a bunch of crap or had no idea (and told mea bunch of
crap).
So now that the SEC is virtually perfect, I feel I need to repay you
all. So I have decided that I will share my Supercharger plans for free
for the asking. I was hoping to make a few bucks to break even on my
investment, but you have saved me who knows how many $ with this (now
simple) solution. Give me a few days to organize the info and I will
post pics, plans and parts lists. It takes a bunch of work (none of
which is irreversible by the way), but the payoff of having an extra
100-150 HP under the hood is just a pure rush. Especially when you blow
one of those punks with the 3 exhaust pipe (youve seen them) off the
road, and the next light they look at you like you are a magician! But I
will warn you ahead of time if you blow the engine or tranny dont
come knocking on my door. I have had the setup for almost a year now,
and the car runs perfect (and I have over 150K miles on the original
set-up). But like anything it takes common sense and moderation to make
sure you dont destroy your car.
I wish you all smooth cruising I know I will (finally)!
-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:57 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Wheel Shimmy Driving Me Crazy!
You should come out this way as my tyre guy does on the car balancing,
ie, each one is spun up to about 80-90- mph while on a lift...makes for
a Smooth ride!
Have you looked closely @ the lower and upper control arm bushings?
Jonathan
plustech at optonline.net wrote:
I'm not sure about the damper. I believe I replaced it on the 380, but
not the 560. I have replaced the drive shaft carrier bearing & mount and
flex discs - I know what that feels like - but that's gone. I know it
sounds goofy how many parts I have replaced. But I got a good deal on
the car. I bought it in 2003 with 85K miles for $4800. The body, engine
and tranny were in excellent shape, but I don't know how the previous
owner managed to destroy most of the suspension/drive shaft related
component. Either very bad steets or got it airborne a few times? So I
did not mind spending the money. I plan on getting my 200K mark: at 155K
now and still runs perfect - daily driver that has never let me down,
and I take care of it well, but it's this last thing that I can't seem
to figure out.
The next crazy thing I'm contemplating is lifting the car one wheel at a
time - find a way to rotate the wheel up to the 60 mph RPM to hopefully
find something. That's why I was asking about the on-car tire balancing
... but I'll check the paperwork for the damper first.
Thanks for the tip!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mister McGoo
Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Wheel Shimmy Driving Me Crazy!
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>
> So you have replaced everything at least once! Yikes. You
> neglected to mention the steering damper, which I'm sure you
> likely have replaced three or four times, yes? Your problem
> sounds frustrating.
>
> A couple of [perhaps] unrelated things: I had a 300D (W124 - 6
> cyl, not 5) on which renewing the motor mounts solved a very
> slight "steering shimmy" through a speed range around 30 -
> 35mph. It seems that the motor tended to do a little jig
> through that rpm range, as the mounts had obviously gone south
> months before. However, I have never heard of this with a V8.
>
> Or, is it possible that your "shimmy" is not in the steering at
> all, but (for instance) is a driveshaft problem causing the
> entire body to vibrate so very slightly that you feel it through
> the steering wheel? The steering box is hard-bolted to the
> "chassis". I'm thinking of your statement that the vibration
> appears to coincide with a specific rotational speed.
>
> (If we keep this up, you'll have a brand new SEC built totally
> from some happy person's parts department!)
>
> -Bellamy
>
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:53:15 -0500From:
> plustech at optonline.netTo: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.comSubject: Re:
> [W126 Coupe] Wheel Shimmy Driving Me Crazy!
>
>
>
>
> Yes, I have replaced the bearings. The play (swivel) is very
> little, approx 1/8 at the wheel edge, and it takes a fair
> amount of force. I see the steering idler arm moving slightly up
> & down at the ball joint end that is what I think the problem
> is, but no matter how much I tighten the assembly, it always has
> some play. Ill check the bearings again though. Thanks.
>
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