[W126 Coupe] MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 32, Issue 1
benzman3
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Thu May 3 02:56:21 EDT 2007
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> 1. update - 4/30/07 (Satish Tummala)
> 2. Re: update - 4/30/07 (Brent von Behrens)
> 3. New to list (Louis Miller)
> 4. Re: update - 4/30/07 (Satish Tummala)
> 5. Re: transmission question (Dana Plummer)
> 6. (no subject) (Dana Plummer)
> 7. Re: update - 4/30/07 (Axel Wulff)
> 8. Re: Car for sale (rick raimo)
> 9. Re: New to list (Terry Ratliff)
> 10. Clay's Nightmare continues (benzman3)
> 11. Re: Clay's Nightmare continues (Dan Landiss)
> 12. Re: Movie car question! (Sam Sisic)
> 13. Clay's Last Shot (benzman3)
> 14. Re: Movie car question! (Mike Ramay)
> 15. Re: Movie car question! (Paul Samarin)
> 16. Re: Clay's Last Shot (Dan Landiss)
> 17. Re: Movie car question! (Tad Heckaman)
> 18. Re: Clay's Last Shot (rltimmerma at cox.net)
> 19. Re: Clay's Last Shot (Gary Peck)
> 20. Re: summer meet (Markus Meyer)
> 21. Re: Clay's Last Shot (Dana Plummer)
> 22. Re: Clay's Last Shot (Mister McGoo)
> 23. Re: summer meet (Luis Carlos Noriega)
> 24. Re: Clay's Last Shot (Robert Cavazos)
> 25. Re: Clay's Last Shot (Robert Cavazos)
> 26. Re: summer meet (Satish Tummala)
> 27. Re: summer meet (Mike Ramay)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:38:54 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] update - 4/30/07
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> Update:
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> 1. Satish Tummala
> 2. Sam Firebaugh
> 3. David Milling
> 4. Larry Stevens
> 5. Bill Stevenson
> 6. Sam Sisic
> 7. Marcus Meyer
> 8. Brent von Behrens
> 9. Rob Dent
> 10. Anuj Varshney
> 11. Kweku
> 12. JD - ?
> 13. Axel Wulff
> 14. David Cole
> 15. Jim Mayne
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:31:23 +0000
> From: "Brent von Behrens" <fdvb at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] update - 4/30/07
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:01:25 -0400
> From: "Louis Miller" <millerlh at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] New to list
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> HI All:
>
> I'm new to this group, but my 1990 560 SEC isn't, having formerly been
> owned by Roger Bensenhaver of Virginia. (Great car, by the way.) As a
> total non technical guy, I'm having a great time reading the posts.
>
> I'm reading about some meets and gatherings, but can't figure out the
> where or when. I'm in NJ, and see at least one other member from around
> here.
>
> I'm sure I'll be asking dumb questions from time to time, but please
> indulge me because I adhere to the belief that the only stupid question is
> the one you didn't ask.
>
> Lou Miller of Flemington.
>
>
>
>
> Louis Miller
> millerlh at earthlink.net
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:35:43 -0400
> From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] update - 4/30/07
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> How's the weekend of July 13th?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brent von Behrens" <fdvb at msn.com>
> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] update - 4/30/07
>
>
>> Have we nailed down the dates yet?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dana Plummer <dp777usa at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] transmission question
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <874457.49548.qm at web35408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> I ended up not getting the MBZ coupe. Please take me
> off your mailing list. I did the de-list, but it has
> not worked for some.
> dp777usa
> --- Steve Smith <smith at photoregon.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I checked my transmission fluid level yesterday.
>> I'm right at the minimum
>> mark. (checked the level with the engine running
>> and the transmission at
>> operating temp. level ground....etc.)
>>
>> Should I add fluid and how much. I have OEM MBZ
>> tranny fluid. Do you just
>> pour the fluid down the dipstick neck?
>>
>> Recently I adjusted the "t" adjustment on the trans.
>> Now I get a slight
>> intermittent drip. The tranny has never leaked
>> before. Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> The MB Coupes Website!
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:26:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dana Plummer <dp777usa at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] (no subject)
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <560113.8319.qm at web35413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> I ended up not getting the MBZ coupe. Please take me
> off your mailing list. I did the de-list, but it has
> not worked for some.
> dp777usa at yahoo.com
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:33:35 -0400
> From: "Axel Wulff" <axelwulff at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] update - 4/30/07
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <BAY123-F1991C27382B1FEAC00A170B1430 at phx.gbl>
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> July 13 weekend works very well for me.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
>
>
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>
>
>>From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] update - 4/30/07
>>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:35:43 -0400
>>
>>How's the weekend of July 13th?
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent von Behrens" <fdvb at msn.com>
>>To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:31 PM
>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] update - 4/30/07
>>
>>
>>>Have we nailed down the dates yet?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Brent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
>>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
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>>The MB Coupes Website!
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:25:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: rick raimo <rickraimo49 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Car for sale
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <448264.11413.qm at web33813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> I hope no one minds, but my nephew asked me to post
> this item about a MBZ that his father in law has for
> sale. It is a 2006 CLS500, with all the bells and
> whistles, and about 5500 miles on it. He paid 67K for
> the car and would sell it for around 55K. The car is
> in Long Island, and if anyone is interested, email me
> off list. Thanks, Rick Raimo
> 84 500 SEC/AMG-EURO
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 08:34:11 -0400
> From: "Terry Ratliff" <Terry at MyMBSEC.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] New to list
> To: <millerlh at earthlink.net>, "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"
> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <000601c78bed$0799abd0$660fa8c0 at DellE1705>
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> Lou - Once the meet date & place is set I will post it to my web site. -
> Terry
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Terry C. Ratliff
>
> MyMBSEC.com
>
> P.O. Box 4782, Clearwater, Florida 33758-4782
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> Phone: 727-489-2116
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> eMail: Terry at MyMBSEC.com
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> Web site: http://MyMBSEC.com <http://mymbsec.com/>
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> _____
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>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Louis Miller
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:01 PM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] New to list
>
>
>
> HI All:
>
>
>
> I'm new to this group, but my 1990 560 SEC isn't, having formerly been
> owned
> by Roger Bensenhaver of Virginia. (Great car, by the way.) As a total non
> technical guy, I'm having a great time reading the posts.
>
>
>
> I'm reading about some meets and gatherings, but can't figure out the
> where
> or when. I'm in NJ, and see at least one other member from around here.
>
>
>
> I'm sure I'll be asking dumb questions from time to time, but please
> indulge
> me because I adhere to the belief that the only stupid question is the one
> you didn't ask.
>
>
>
> Lou Miller of Flemington.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Louis Miller
>
> millerlh at earthlink.net
>
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:10:36 -0700
> From: "benzman3" <benzman3 at cox.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Nightmare continues
> To: "SEC CLUB" <MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM>
> Message-ID: <C757D56327E8498DA33C7B76B9DB4A22 at claytonPC>
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> Hi to those that responded,
> Dick when I tested for short I had neg. cable off and ground neg. to alt.
> bracket and it lite up that would mean a short correct. Still have to
> floor car and crank to start and I'm sure that probably foul plugs at
> first, but then car starts and runs when driving ok except at idle again,
> it dies. Only ran good and started instantly the one day and not again.
> Can drive to a shop if I brake torque at stops.
> thanks, Clay
> Call me or give me a number and I'll call you
> 480-368-1217 or 480-540-5990 cell
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 13:39:57 -0500
> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Nightmare continues
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <4637897D.1070004 at landiss.com>
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> on 5/1/2007 1:10 PM benzman3 wrote:
>
>> when I tested for short I had neg. cable off and ground neg. to alt.
>> bracket and it lite up that would mean a short correct.
>
> No, it means that some accessory was drawing enough current to light the
> lamp. Even a dome light or brake light would be enough. It doesn't have
> be a short. In fact, it it were, it should have blown a fuse.
>
>> Still have to floor car and crank to start and I'm sure that probably
>> foul plugs at first, but then car starts and runs when driving ok
>> except at idle again, it dies.
>
> Rich, rich, rich. Leaky injectors. Leaky anything.
>
> --
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> :::::::::::
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 18:29:06 -0500
> From: Sam Sisic <ssisic at Antunovich.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
> To: "'mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> I believe those were E500's... Great chase seen!! It was painful waching
> those great cars get wrecked. ;-(
> Although not as painful as watching the SEC get wrecked in Road House!!
> Sam
> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:36 PM
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
>>
>> In the movie The Bourne Supremacy there were three Mercedes
>> Sedans chasing him through Russia, any idea what they were?
>> Thanks
>> Bill P.
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:02:27 -0400
> From: "Bill" <bl6377 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <CB7FF56566C64DE6940538B0B43AFB0C at BillPC>
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> I was thinking maybe the E500's?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
>
>
>> W124 E-classes, though beyond that I don't know.
>>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 16:39:33 -0700
> From: "benzman3" <benzman3 at cox.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: "SEC CLUB" <MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM>
> Message-ID: <75D5F4A14B6947C6AFF42AE2DFF009B9 at claytonPC>
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> Well Guys,
> This will be the last time I write about my problem, so not to take up
> space. The car almost wants to start on 1st. turn of strater, but dosen't
> and you have to hold pedal to floor and then it starts right away. Played
> with fuel dist. counter clock wise leans it out, but it idles up and down
> between 750 and 900 but still running rich. Black smoke at idle and
> alittle at higher rpm 2000-3000. It's like its getting too much fuel. Runs
> on highway ok, but still have battery draw when tested with neg. off to a
> ground on car. What would make it run so rich and cause the draw ?
> Only after having fuel filter changed ? I forgot you can smell the gas
> also, but can't see any leaks by engine or fuel pumps. I know to many
> questions.
> Someone give me some help.
> Clay Moizo
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 17:15:06 -0800
> From: "Mike Ramay" <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20070502001450.E6B6612038A at mailwash11.pair.com>
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> As a fan of both Patrick Swayze and even more of the SEC, I stepped though
> the "fly the SEC" scene in Roadhouse and it looks to be a replica in the
> air, with no motor or transmission in it. That made me feel better about
> the
> movie because that is a GEORGEOUS blue SEC.
>
> Later,
> Mike R.
> (702) 494-8056
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Sam Sisic
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: 'mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com'
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
>
> I believe those were E500's... Great chase seen!! It was painful waching
> those great cars get wrecked. ;-(
> Although not as painful as watching the SEC get wrecked in Road House!!
> Sam
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 17:19:23 -0700
> From: Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <1D6E88B7-1B66-42B6-AA0E-69CE465D268F at sbcglobal.net>
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> It looked like an SEL to me, but I'm going on memory. I thought it
> looked like they removed the rear door handles from an SEL and
> spliced it into the end of that scene.
>
> Paul
>
> On May 1, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Mike Ramay wrote:
>
>> As a fan of both Patrick Swayze and even more of the SEC, I stepped
>> though
>> the "fly the SEC" scene in Roadhouse and it looks to be a replica
>> in the
>> air, with no motor or transmission in it. That made me feel better
>> about the
>> movie because that is a GEORGEOUS blue SEC.
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>> (702) 494-8056
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-
>> bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Sam Sisic
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:29 PM
>> To: 'mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com'
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
>>
>> I believe those were E500's... Great chase seen!! It was painful
>> waching
>> those great cars get wrecked. ;-(
>> Although not as painful as watching the SEC get wrecked in Road
>> House!!
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> The MB Coupes Website!
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>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
> Paul Samarin
> pauls at sbcglobal.net
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 19:41:58 -0500
> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> on 5/1/2007 6:39 PM benzman3 wrote:
>> but still have battery draw when tested with neg. off to a ground on car.
>
> I'm not sure the two symptoms are related. The lamps in the little
> pencil-sized testers are quite small. It takes very little current to
> light them. If you were drawing significant current, there would be
> enough to light a brake lamp -- you might try holding one of THOSE lamps
> between battery negative and ground.
>
> Report back if a brake lamp glows white, yellow, orange, or not at all
> when placed in series with the battery.
>
> --
>
> :::::::::::
> "We have become morally ill because we have become accustomed to saying
> one thing and thinking another." --Vaclav Havel
> <http://www.landiss.com/civillib.htm#1Jan90>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:52:39 -0400
> From: "Tad Heckaman" <douglash at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>
>
> On 5/1/07, Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> It looked like an SEL to me, but I'm going on memory. I thought it
>> looked
>> like they removed the rear door handles from an SEL and spliced it into
>> the
>> end of that scene.
>> Paul
>>
>> On May 1, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Mike Ramay wrote:
>>
>> As a fan of both Patrick Swayze and even more of the SEC, I stepped
>> though
>> the "fly the SEC" scene in Roadhouse and it looks to be a replica in the
>> air, with no motor or transmission in it. That made me feel better about
>> the
>> movie because that is a GEORGEOUS blue SEC.
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>> (702) 494-8056
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com<mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com>
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Sam Sisic
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:29 PM
>> To: 'mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com'
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Movie car question!
>>
>> I believe those were E500's... Great chase seen!! It was painful waching
>> those great cars get wrecked. ;-(
>> Although not as painful as watching the SEC get wrecked in Road House!!
>> Sam
>>
>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:01:34 -0700
> From: <rltimmerma at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Cc: benzman3 <benzman3 at cox.net>
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> Clay,
> I agree, it sounds like way too rich at idle. I had similar symptoms
> on a friend's 380 SEC. Turned out to be the air flow metering plate was
> not fully returning at idle. I took the intake apart and cleaned
> everything up with mineral spirits, put it back together and it ran like a
> champ.
> I've heard that you can spray carb cleaner inside the manifold while
> holding down the air metering plate to clean the pivot point.
> Good luck,
>
> Ray
> '90 560 SEC
> ---- benzman3 <benzman3 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> Well Guys,
> This will be the last time I write about my problem, so not to take up
> space. The car almost wants to start on 1st. turn of strater, but dosen't
> and you have to hold pedal to floor and then it starts right away. Played
> with fuel dist. counter clock wise leans it out, but it idles up and down
> between 750 and 900 but still running rich. Black smoke at idle and
> alittle at higher rpm 2000-3000. It's like its getting too much fuel. Runs
> on highway ok, but still have battery draw when tested with neg. off to a
> ground on car. What would make it run so rich and cause the draw ?
> Only after having fuel filter changed ? I forgot you can smell the gas
> also, but can't see any leaks by engine or fuel pumps. I know to many
> questions.
> Someone give me some help.
> Clay Moizo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 04:14:45 -0400
> From: "Gary Peck" <gary.peck at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <003101c78c91$f20e04a0$6401a8c0 at mycomputer>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Clay
> Hard starting & fuel smell - check the two O rings in the EHA regulator,
> 90% its the regulator, 10% the O rings.
>
> MBGary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: benzman3
> To: SEC CLUB
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:39 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
>
>
> Well Guys,
> This will be the last time I write about my problem, so not to take up
> space. The car almost wants to start on 1st. turn of strater, but dosen't
> and you have to hold pedal to floor and then it starts right away. Played
> with fuel dist. counter clock wise leans it out, but it idles up and down
> between 750 and 900 but still running rich. Black smoke at idle and
> alittle at higher rpm 2000-3000. It's like its getting too much fuel. Runs
> on highway ok, but still have battery draw when tested with neg. off to a
> ground on car. What would make it run so rich and cause the draw ?
> Only after having fuel filter changed ? I forgot you can smell the gas
> also, but can't see any leaks by engine or fuel pumps. I know to many
> questions.
> Someone give me some help.
> Clay Moizo
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:13:18 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Markus Meyer" <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <20070502131318.452A687375 at email.iwon.com>
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> If its the weekend of July 14/15 or 28/29 (preferred for me) you can take
> the ? off my name!!! Markus
> From: Satish Tummala ^lt;no email> Date: Sun Apr 29 2007 - 19:52:22 EDT
> Update: --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1. Satish 2. Sam Firebaugh 3. David Milling 4. Larry Stevens 5. Bill
> Stevenson 6. Sam Sisic 7. Marcus Meyer - ? 8. Brent 9. Rob Dent 10. Anuj
> Varshney 11. Kweku 12. JD - ? 13. Axel
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> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:59:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dana Plummer <dp777usa at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <364927.47211.qm at web35402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> Gary pleasae take me off the mailing list. I don't
> have the mbz now.
> dp
> --- Gary Peck <gary.peck at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> Clay
>> Hard starting & fuel smell - check the two O rings
>> in the EHA regulator, 90% its the regulator, 10% the
>> O rings.
>>
>> MBGary
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: benzman3
>> To: SEC CLUB
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:39 PM
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
>>
>>
>> Well Guys,
>> This will be the last time I write about my
>> problem, so not to take up space. The car almost
>> wants to start on 1st. turn of strater, but dosen't
>> and you have to hold pedal to floor and then it
>> starts right away. Played with fuel dist. counter
>> clock wise leans it out, but it idles up and down
>> between 750 and 900 but still running rich. Black
>> smoke at idle and alittle at higher rpm 2000-3000.
>> It's like its getting too much fuel. Runs on highway
>> ok, but still have battery draw when tested with
>> neg. off to a ground on car. What would make it run
>> so rich and cause the draw ?
>> Only after having fuel filter changed ? I forgot
>> you can smell the gas also, but can't see any leaks
>> by engine or fuel pumps. I know to many questions.
>> Someone give me some help.
>> Clay Moizo
>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:05:27 +0000
> From: Mister McGoo <eelploot at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY126-W185CDD02C169794455976ACB420 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Clay;
>
> Try unplugging the power to the cold-start injector. (The blue electrical
> connection directly behind the distributor). Could be the cold-start
> injector is not shutting off (defective sensor).
>
> If no change, see if you can find a known good (or new) cold start
> injector assembly to try. Could be the cold start injector itself is
> defective and is pouring fuel into the intake all the time.
>
> Don't quit posting questions. You're not bothering anybody. This is what
> the site is for, right? This is the site where people pool their
> collective experiences, and eventually some contributor will hit on an
> answer to your problem. The more symptoms described, the better the
> chances of finding a solution, and every solved problem can be more
> knowledge for everyone.
>
> -Bellamy
>
>
> From: benzman3 at cox.netTo: MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COMDate: Tue, 1 May 2007
> 16:39:33 -0700Subject: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
>
>
>
> Well Guys,
> This will be the last time I write about my problem, so not to take up
> space. The car almost wants to start on 1st. turn of strater, but dosen't
> and you have to hold pedal to floor and then it starts right away. Played
> with fuel dist. counter clock wise leans it out, but it idles up and down
> between 750 and 900 but still running rich. Black smoke at idle and
> alittle at higher rpm 2000-3000. It's like its getting too much fuel. Runs
> on highway ok, but still have battery draw when tested with neg. off to a
> ground on car. What would make it run so rich and cause the draw ?
> Only after having fuel filter changed ? I forgot you can smell the gas
> also, but can't see any leaks by engine or fuel pumps. I know to many
> questions.
> Someone give me some help.
> Clay Moizo
> _________________________________________________________________
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> IF YOU HAD BACK FUSION L3.L4.L5 REMOVED AND METAL PUT BACK IN, A HEART
> ATACK W/ 4 STENTS PUT IN, CORATED SURGERY ON RIGHT AND GOING IN FOR LEFT
> THIS MONTH. I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD BE ON SOME KIND OF MEDS ALSO. I'M
> TELLING YOU LIKE A GENTLEMAN, RATHER THAT THE PEOPLE YOU MUST KNOW AT THE
> 7/11'S BECAUSE I NEVER BEEN IN ONE EVER. REGARDS, CLAY
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 21:36:38 +0000
> From: "Luis Carlos Noriega" <luiscnoriega at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <BAY136-F163DA3467A4940956FBF1DD6420 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> I'm very surprise on the kind of respond a gentleman like you can
> give,ARE
> U UNDER MEDICATION? In the event I go at this meetings, probably i will
> not
> like to meet people like you.
> You might want to meet some peolpe at you local 7/11.
> Regards
> Luis C.Noriega
>
>
>>From: "Markus Meyer" <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
>>Reply-To: mfmeyer at iwon.com,Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>><mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
>>Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:13:18 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>> If its the weekend of July 14/15 or 28/29 (preferred for me) you can
>> take
>>the ? off my name!!! Markus
>>From: Satish Tummala ^lt;no email> Date: Sun Apr 29 2007 - 19:52:22 EDT
>>Update:
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>1. Satish 2. Sam Firebaugh 3. David Milling 4. Larry Stevens 5. Bill
>>Stevenson 6. Sam Sisic 7. Marcus Meyer - ? 8. Brent 9. Rob Dent 10. Anuj
>>Varshney 11. Kweku 12. JD - ? 13. Axel
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>
>
>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 15:05:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Cavazos <jazzman_390 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <874512.68278.qm at web36614.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Clay,
>
> It could be the fuel pressure regulator. Check to see if you have
> strong gasoline smell at the air filter to valve cover breather tube (that
> little vacuum hose on the breather tube comes from the fuel pressure
> regulator and is there for a reference to atmospheric pressure). Or you
> can pull the vacuum hose off the regulator and turn the key on a few times
> (or start the car) to run the pumps and see if any fuel comes out. If any
> does, it's bad.
>
> On your dead battery issue, have you tried removing the fuses one at a
> time while watching the intesity of your test light? If you see it dim
> considerably, you will know where to concentrate you efforts. Like someone
> earlier stated, there will always be some (very small) draw (like the
> clock) on the battery.
>
> Bob Cavazos
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: benzman3 <benzman3 at cox.net>
> To: SEC CLUB <MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2007 4:39:33 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well Guys,
>
> This will be the last time I write about my
> problem, so not to take up space. The car almost wants to start on 1st.
> turn of
> strater, but dosen't and you have to hold pedal to floor and then it
> starts
> right away. Played with fuel dist. counter clock wise leans it out, but it
> idles
> up and down between 750 and 900 but still running rich. Black smoke at
> idle and
> alittle at higher rpm 2000-3000. It's like its getting too much fuel. Runs
> on
> highway ok, but still have battery draw when tested with neg. off to a
> ground on
> car. What would make it run so rich and cause the draw ?
>
> Only after having fuel filter changed ? I forgot
> you can smell the gas also, but can't see any leaks by engine or fuel
> pumps. I know to many questions.
>
> Someone give me some help.
>
> Clay Moizo
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 15:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Cavazos <jazzman_390 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <193554.31534.qm at web36615.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Clay,
>
> One other thing, if the regulator is bad, you may have gasoline in your
> oil. Pull the dipstick and smell it for gasoline.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Robert Cavazos <jazzman_390 at yahoo.com>
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 3:05:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
>
> Clay,
>
> It could be the fuel pressure regulator. Check to see if you have
> strong gasoline smell at the air filter to valve cover breather tube (that
> little vacuum hose on the breather tube comes from the fuel pressure
> regulator and is there for a reference to atmospheric pressure). Or you
> can pull the vacuum hose off the regulator and turn the key on a few times
> (or start the car) to run the pumps and see if any fuel comes out. If any
> does, it's bad.
>
> On your dead battery issue, have you tried removing the fuses one at a
> time while watching the intesity of your test light? If you see it dim
> considerably, you will know where to concentrate you efforts. Like someone
> earlier stated, there will always be some
> (very small) draw (like the clock) on the battery.
>
> Bob Cavazos
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: benzman3 <benzman3 at cox.net>
> To: SEC CLUB <MBCOUPES at MBCOUPES.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2007 4:39:33 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Clay's Last Shot
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well Guys,
>
> This will be the last time I write about my
> problem, so not to take up space. The car almost wants to start on 1st.
> turn of
> strater, but dosen't and you have to hold pedal to floor and then it
> starts
> right away. Played with fuel dist. counter clock wise leans it out, but it
> idles
> up and down between 750 and 900 but still running rich. Black smoke at
> idle and
> alittle at higher rpm 2000-3000. It's like its getting too much fuel. Runs
> on
> highway ok, but still have battery draw when tested with neg. off to a
> ground on
> car. What would make it run so rich and cause the draw ?
>
> Only after having fuel filter changed ? I forgot
> you can smell the gas also, but can't see any leaks by engine or fuel
> pumps. I know to many questions.
>
> Someone give me some help.
>
> Clay Moizo
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check out
> new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 18:23:21 -0400
> From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <002201c78d08$7ddc68c0$8b01a8c0 at salescounter>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Whatever that meant...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Luis Carlos Noriega" <luiscnoriega at hotmail.com>
> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
>
>
>> I'm very surprise on the kind of respond a gentleman like you can
>> give,ARE U UNDER MEDICATION? In the event I go at this meetings, probably
>> i will not like to meet people like you.
>> You might want to meet some peolpe at you local 7/11.
>> Regards
>> Luis C.Noriega
>>
>>
>>>From: "Markus Meyer" <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
>>>Reply-To: mfmeyer at iwon.com,Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>>><mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
>>>Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:13:18 -0400 (EDT)
>>>
>>> If its the weekend of July 14/15 or 28/29 (preferred for me) you can
>>> take the ? off my name!!! Markus
>>>From: Satish Tummala ^lt;no email> Date: Sun Apr 29 2007 - 19:52:22
>>>EDT
>>>Update: --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>1. Satish 2. Sam Firebaugh 3. David Milling 4. Larry Stevens 5. Bill
>>>Stevenson 6. Sam Sisic 7. Marcus Meyer - ? 8. Brent 9. Rob Dent 10. Anuj
>>>Varshney 11. Kweku 12. JD - ? 13. Axel
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>
>>
>>
>>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps.
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>>
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>
> Message: 27
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 15:40:18 -0800
> From: "Mike Ramay" <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20070502223948.E9E5F120354 at mailwash11.pair.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I took Markus's message to mean that he agrees with that date and there is
> no further question of his ability to attend - he'll be there.
>
> What did you think it meant. FYI, Markus is a marvelous person.
>
> Later,
> Mike R.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Luis Carlos Noriega
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:37 PM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
>
> I'm very surprise on the kind of respond a gentleman like you can
> give,ARE
> U UNDER MEDICATION? In the event I go at this meetings, probably i will
> not
> like to meet people like you.
> You might want to meet some peolpe at you local 7/11.
> Regards
> Luis C.Noriega
>
>
>>From: "Markus Meyer" <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
>>Reply-To: mfmeyer at iwon.com,Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>><mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] summer meet
>>Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:13:18 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>> If its the weekend of July 14/15 or 28/29 (preferred for me) you can
>> take
>
>>the ? off my name!!! Markus
>>From: Satish Tummala ^lt;no email> Date: Sun Apr 29 2007 - 19:52:22 EDT
>>Update:
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>1. Satish 2. Sam Firebaugh 3. David Milling 4. Larry Stevens 5. Bill
>>Stevenson 6. Sam Sisic 7. Marcus Meyer - ? 8. Brent 9. Rob Dent 10. Anuj
>>Varshney 11. Kweku 12. JD - ? 13. Axel
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>
>
>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
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