[W126 Coupe] 2.82 Rear Diff for 84 500SEC
Jonathan
jhodgman at gmail.com
Mon Jul 23 09:12:05 EDT 2007
Hello Alec,
Yes, ratio's are the same..some of the Euro 560's did come w/ a slightly
more aggressive 1st gear though, but everything else stayed the same.
They are all 1-1 in 4th.
Jonathan
Divov wrote:
> */Jonathan,/*
> */Are the gearbox ratios the same on a 500SEC & a 560SEC?/*
> *//*
> */With my set-up (from a 2.24 going to a 3.27) I have roughly
> calculated the following:/*
> */3500RPM - 128km/h/*
> */4000 - 146/*
> */4500 - 165/*
> */5000 - 183/*
> */5500 - 201/*
> */6000 - 220/*
> *//*
> */Alec D./*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jonathan <mailto:jhodgman at gmail.com>
> *To:* Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [W126 Coupe] 2.82 Rear Diff for 84 500SEC
>
> Interesting, as when driving around on a 2.82 I find the cars RPM
> on the highway livable, but it makes me less inclined to want to
> do serious highway driving. I find the 2.82 makes a Large
> difference over the stock 2.47 acceleration wise, very perceptible
> IMHO, esp. when you have the opportunity to swap back and forth
> from stock to modified.
>
> Here are some plots using Dan's MPHvsRPM Excel chart:
>
> http://blueridgemb.com/stockdiffrpm.jpg
>
> http://blueridgemb.com/307diffrpm.jpg
>
> Now if I could run Eddie's Gear Vendors or once we get the 5/6sp
> conversion done I'll be all for a 3.07, or even 3.47:)
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> Gerry Van Zandt wrote:
>> The 3.07 isn't all that bad in highway driving. At 80 MPH you're
>> doing EXACTLY 3,500-3,550 RPM; at 65 it runs around 3,000 RPM.
>> Redline for a 560 is what, 6K or a little higher -- there's
>> plenty of headroom. I drive my 89 560SEC from Portland up to
>> Seattle quite regularly (a 2.5 hour trip) and it's really not a
>> problem.
>>
>> I'm still getting upwards of 15 MPG average per tankful. The
>> last tankful, all highway driving, was 17.59 MPG with the
>> 3.07. 16 and 17 MPG for tankfuls with all-freeway driving are
>> not at all uncommon.
>>
>> The benefit at low speeds and off the line far outweighs the
>> engine running 700 RPM higher at 80 MPH, compared to a stock 2.47
>> car.
>>
>> An 84 500SEC or a 380SEC is a direct bolt-up for a 3.07 from a
>> sedan. The later cars (560s) require some slight mods -- the 3.07
>> gearset must be placed in a 560 pumpkin. You do have to
>> calibrate the speedo with an adjustment box. Mine was about
>> 10-12 MPH off. This is easy to do and you can tuck it behind the
>> instrument cluster back in the dash.
>>
>> A 2.82 is a good compromise in terms of ratio, but it's not
>> enough of a difference, IMHO, to warrant the time and cost of
>> doing a replacement. The 3.07 is a large jump and the results
>> are dramatic. If one is doing the swap for better off the line
>> quickness and such, I'd just go whole hog. Those of us who have
>> done the switch wouldn't go back.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gerry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2007, at 9:15 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
>> <mailto:mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As an aside, if you do a Lot of highway driving you might find
>>> the 3.07
>>>
>>> from a 450 a bit Busy...granted it will feel Great off the line
>>> though!
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>
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> 1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"
> 1991 560 SEC Full Euro ECE
> 1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs
> 1989 560 SEC AMG (N.A. Conversion 250/297)
> 1987 560 SEC
> 1986 560 SEL 6.0L 32V AMG
> 1985 300 CD (for sale)
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> 1986 560 SEC (parts)
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Providing quality parts to discriminating customers in all parts of the world.
Located in the Greater Atlanta area.
http://www.blueridgemb.com
1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"
1991 560 SEC Full Euro ECE
1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs
1989 560 SEC AMG (N.A. Conversion 250/297)
1987 560 SEC
1986 560 SEL 6.0L 32V AMG
1985 300 CD (for sale)
1980 280 SE Euro
1986 560 SEC (parts)
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