[W126 Coupe] Rear suspension mods.
Dick Spellman
spell.yy at verizon.net
Fri Apr 27 14:05:16 EDT 2007
Divov wrote:
> Firstly, it is extremely presumptuous of me to be commenting on design
> done by highly qualified German Engineers when, as only an
> enthusiastic amateur, my knowledge would barely fill a post-card. The
> following is merely my observations and experience based on trial &
> error under racing conditions and logical application.
> However, the Merc Engineer's brief must have been to design a set-up
> which was perfect to keep the over-weight Industrialist alive after he
> may have had a few too many at the local beerhall!!
> It is a very safe and forgiving car. They are marvellously engineered
> cars.
> The SEC is a fast, luxurious freeway cruiser but no super agile
> cornerer - viewed by many as an "old man's car".
> When provoked fast in to corners, it's a overweight understeering bitch.
> My objective is to alter that set-up to one giving sharper responses
> and faster cornering ability - even at the expense of the cars normal
> benign nature.
>
> If you followed the thread on my aluminium billet anti roll bar
> mounting modification, I rigidly located the rear anti roll bar which
> definitely controls toe-in / toe-out on the back wheels. On my first
> effort, I tried to locate the roll bar mounting exactly where the
> designers planned with a stationary car - midway between the 2
> mounting bolts.
> With the stock rubber half moon mounts, these will compress under
> acceleration as the wheels attempt to overtake the body thereby
> inducing some toe in on the rear wheels. Conversely, under braking the
> body tries to rip off the wheels and those bushes compress the other
> way giving toe out as the anti roll bar pulls the wheels aft.
> Looking at a Fiat Dino (Ferrari powered super Fiat) set up, this is
> really nifty arrangement. It works as follows:
> The rear wheel toe-in is controlled by two rods (one on each side),
> each attached to the rear hubs aft of their pivot point and the other
> end these rods attach to the diff and they are also adjustable length.
> (the diff is mounted to the body, similar to the SEC) On a Fiat Dino,
> static rear toe in is adjustable unlike the Benz.
> The clever part is that when the car is standing parked, these rods
> are at about a 7 degree angle relative to the ground. (visualise they
> run parallel to the drive shafts)
> When the car squats under acceleration, these rods become more
> parallel to the road and hence become effectively longer and therefore
> push out on the hubs, swivelling them to give toe-in. Under braking,
> with weight transfer forward, the tail lifts & the rods create a
> greater angle, become effectively become shorter and therefore the
> wheels toe out.
> What a neat set-up! This is a infinitely better arrangement than that
> which the Merc uses.
> Based on what both set-ups strive to achieve, I deduce that toe-in
> under acceleration and toe out under braking are desirable design
> objectives.
> However, the SEC standard factory static alignment spec is _________
> degree rear toe in.
> I assume that they were terrified to have toe out (giving a whip-lash
> oversteer character) therefore they rather settled on a conservative
> toe-in setting.
>
> My first attempt at a rigid mounting was not totally successful as I
> ended with this permanent toe-in set-up and I was somewhat
> disappointed with the cars turn-in in the corners.
> Understeer definitely improved (because the anti roll bar was more
> efficient) but, turn in remained soggy and the car still tended to
> plough into corners on the outside front wheel if I attempted the
> classical racing "late entry turn in" cornering technique. The plough
> on effect was so bad that I would miss the corners apex completely.
> Rear toe-in will counter the front wheels effort to turn in to a
> corner and cause the plough on effect. AKA terminal understeer.
> So, the "Mk 2" version of the solid roll bar mount has the hole
> through which the ARB passes moved aft of the standard middle point to
> give zero toe-in.
> How did I figure out how far to move back the ARB hole?
> I slotted the mounting holes (mounting to the chassis) in the
> aluminium billets so that I could hammer the whole billets aft. This
> was done on a wheel alignment machine and I could move the ARB
> mountings aft until I got zero rear wheel toe-in reading. (Normal the
> SEC has no adjustment for rear toe-in)
> Back at the workshop I accurately marked the centre line of the front
> mounting bolt while still leaving the rear bolt tight. (using a
> temporary long bolt & measuring with a vernier to the ARB) I now knew
> the distance from the front bolt to the ARB.
> New mounting billets were made with the hole for the ARB drilled in
> the perfect position for this particular car. (I couldn't trust
> running the car on slotted holes in case it moved during a race).
> Track testing to follow will confirm (hopefully) a more crisp turn-in
> character since the rear wheels won't be on their own mission.
>
> Being a bit of a maverick, I get a kick out of getting a big Benz to
> handle where the general consensus was that it was not possible.
> Perceptions have changed and people now are starting to take the
> racing SEC Benz a lot more seriously.
> The problem with being one of the very few nutters to try and race a
> SEC is that there is no data base of information so you have to try
> and work it out for yourself.
> It is a challenge but so rewarding when you get it right.
>
> From mucking about on this race car, what emerges applicable for the
> normal road car user is that these rubber ARB mountings do a real
> man's job and it would be a good idea to make sure your car's rear ARB
> bushes are in tip top condition. Worn & sloppy bushes will seriously
> adversely affect a SEC's handling.
> They are really easy to replace and I'm sure can't cost much from the
> Merc dealership.
> If your particular car happens to have "out of spec" rear alignment
> and your alignment specialist tells you there is no adjustment so
> "tough luck" - don't believe him!
> This is what you can do:
> You can slot the holes in the saddle brackets which hold the rubber
> half moon bushes. Get nice quality thickish washers which are snug to
> the mounting bolts and spot weld the washers to the saddle bracket
> once you have got the alignment within spec. Remove the brackets &
> then thoroughly weld & refit in the same orientation. Problem solved.
>
> I am so enthusiastic about this project and hopefully the development
> of this racing Benz is of some interest to a fellow readers and I'm
> not boring everyone to tears.
> If so, tell me to shut up and I won't be offended!
>
> Regards
>
> Alec D.
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Great write-up Alec. Keep the information flowing.
Thanks,
Dick
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