[W126 Coupe] ML steering wheel for SEC (Shayegan, Richard)

[Igor Capeta]

Richard,

thank you for this link. They have nice product range. Do you know if those 
steering wheels come with an airbag inclusive in stated price or you are 
supposed to purchase them separately?

Regards,

Igor



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>   1. Re: New to the list ... (Mister McGoo)

>   2. TOW HOOK COVER (benzman3)

>   3. ML steering wheel for SEC (Igor Capeta)

>   4. Re: ML steering wheel for SEC (Jonathan Hodgman)

>   5. >   6. tow hook cover (jack emery)

>   7. Tranny Adjustments (Bob Rodgers)

>   8. Re: tow hook cover (Dick Spellman)

>   9. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Ontheedgeracing at aol.com)

>  10. Re: tow hook cover (jack emery)

>  11. Re: tow hook cover (Dick Spellman)

>  12. Alarm system (Dan Landiss)

>  13. Re: Alarm system (Dick Spellman)

>  14. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Doug Gavin)

>  15. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Doug Gavin)

>  16. Re: gold plated emblems on a (Doug Gavin)

>  17. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Doug Gavin)

>  18. Boot badge (jack emery)

>  19. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Doug Gavin)

>  20. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Doug Gavin)

>  21. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Doug Gavin)

>  22. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Ontheedgeracing at aol.com)

>  23. Fwd: Check out Houston Section of the Mercedes-Benz Club of

>      America (Ontheedgeracing at aol.com)

>  24. Re: Fwd: Check out Houston Section of the Mercedes-BenzClub

>      of America (Robert Karl Stonjek)

>  25. Rear anti roll bar & toe in (Divov)

>  26. Re: gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC (Doug Gavin)

>  27. RE-SENDING---1985 AMG Euro version (Clayton Johnson)

>  28. Re: RE-SENDING---1985 AMG Euro version (Jonathan Hodgman)

>  29. Re: RE-SENDING---1985 AMG Euro version (Clayton Johnson)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:22:07 +0000

> From: Mister McGoo <eelploot at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] New to the list ...

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Derrick;

>

> FIRST, if you have no record of having changed the timing chain, DO THAT 

> RIGHT AWAY.  You can check the timing marks on the left cam against the 

> TDC to check for stretch.  Change the upper guide rails, plus the 

> tensioner.  Check the condition of the cam sprockets (at 183K miles? not 

> Km?).  Worn ones look like someone sharpened them to chew through oak 

> logs.

>

> You really REALLY don't want to lose the timing chain!

>

> The Euro 500SEC is a beauty.

>

> -Bellamy

>

>

>

>> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:45:27 -0400> From: spell.yy at verizon.net> To: 

>> glowboy at starstream.net; mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 

>> New to the list ...> > Welcome Derrick. That 500euro motor is a beauty so 

>> take care of it. > Any chance you have the service records so you can see 

>> when/how the > engine was maintained? Failing that, if you are inclined 

>> do the > complete electric inspection followed by the fuel and that will 

>> get the > 500 in top shape. Or, find a reputable mechanic to give it the 

>> once > over and provide you with a list of to do's.> > Regards,> Dick> > 

>> DERRICK SCHMIDT wrote:> > ... but know how they work. Have had a Sunbeam 

>> Tiger for some time.> >> > Just inherited my parents' '83 500 SEC. White 

>> with Navy blue leather interior. > > Beautiful car. They grey marketed it 

>> from Germany in '84. Drove it myself @ 150 > > mph in Germany. Dad has 

>> taken great care of the car over all. Looks absolutely > > perfect from 

>> about 10 feet, but now has 183 k miles and

>  a few issues.> >> > Two at the top of the list:> >> > Have not chekced 

> the obvious (distributor, etc) yet, but it has a very noticeable > > miss 

> at idle. Just drove it from L.A. to Sacramento and still pulled from 85 to 

> 110 > > pretty well. Any thing else to check? Plug wires look pretty new. 

> Will check the > > plugs themselves as well.> >> > Also, it seems the 

> heater core is open to hot water. Can minimize the heat into the > > cabin 

> by running fresh air through the dash vents but temperatures spend a > > 

> significant amount of time in the triple digits here so I need to get the 

> heat to stop.> >> > Any starting points would be appreciated.> >> > 

> Thanks.> >> > Derrick > >> >> >> >> > 

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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:51:49 -0700

> From: "benzman3" <benzman3 at cox.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] TOW HOOK COVER

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> Hi guys,

> I was rearding posts last week or begining of this week and someone was 

> looking for a tow hitch cover and said they were hard to find. Well I was 

> on E-Bay and there is one for sale, it says it came off of a SEL so I'm 

> not sure the same, it was for 86 and up and looked pretty nice shape.

> The E-Bay # is 200098479289 and had 5 days and 5 hours left. Priced at 

> $5.99 starting bid and had 0 bids now.

> Regards, Clay Moizo

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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:30:08 +0200

> From: "Igor Capeta" <icap at vip.hr>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] ML steering wheel for SEC

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> Could somebody inform me if I could fit an ML steering wheel on 1990 560 

> SEC

> with airbags (euro model)? I will appreciate any opinion or instruction.

> Found this wheel on ebay.de

> http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Holz-Leder-Lenkrad-fuer-Mercedes-Benz-M-ML-KL_W0QQitemZ110112423575QQihZ001QQcategoryZ53945QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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> Thanks,

>

> Igor

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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:11:04 -0400

> From: "Jonathan Hodgman" <jhodgman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] ML steering wheel for SEC

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> I'd be surprised..  I'd look for an R129 or W140 wheel instead.

>

> Jonathan

>

> On 4/11/07, Igor Capeta <icap at vip.hr> wrote:

>>

>> Could somebody inform me if I could fit an ML steering wheel on 1990 560

>> SEC

>> with airbags (euro model)? I will appreciate any opinion or instruction.

>> Found this wheel on ebay.de

>>

>> http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Holz-Leder-Lenkrad-fuer-Mercedes-Benz-M-ML-KL_W0QQitemZ110112423575QQihZ001QQcategoryZ53945QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Igor

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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:15:15 -0400

> From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] ML steering wheel for SEC

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> If you like that style of wheel it might be worth your while to check

> www.goeckel.de I'm awaiting a response from them to see if they will

> ship to the US.

>

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> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodgman

> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM

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> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] ML steering wheel for SEC

>

>

> I'd be surprised..  I'd look for an R129 or W140 wheel instead.

>

> Jonathan

>

>

> On 4/11/07, Igor Capeta <icap at vip.hr > wrote:

>

> Could somebody inform me if I could fit an ML steering

> wheel on 1990 560 SEC

> with airbags (euro model)? I will appreciate any opinion

> or instruction.

> Found this wheel on ebay.de

>

> http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Holz-Leder-Lenkrad-fuer-Mercedes-Benz-M-ML-K

> L_W0QQitemZ110112423575QQihZ001QQcategoryZ53945QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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> Thanks,

>

> Igor

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> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:03:09 +0800

> From: "jack emery" <jonnery at bigpond.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] tow hook cover

> To: "mb coupes" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> I had a look at the picture of this item on Ebay. It has only 3 bars on 

> it.

> I think the correct one had 4. Can anyone check, please? A new one is $90.

> Thanks,  Jack OZ

>

>

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> Message: 7

> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:05:16 -0400

> From: "Bob Rodgers" <bobrod at cox.net>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Tranny Adjustments

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> OOps!  I did not make 5 revolutions, just 5 clicks to where the slots are.

> Bob

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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:27:46 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] tow hook cover

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> jack emery wrote:

>> I had a look at the picture of this item on Ebay. It has only 3 bars

>> on it. I think the correct one had 4. Can anyone check, please? A new

>> one is $90.

>> Thanks,  Jack OZ

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> Jack:

>

> Pretty certain I have one or two US bumper 126 chassis SEDAN tow hook

> covers floating about.  Can't speak for whatever color they are but they

> are US bumper.  The euro has the 3 and is wider.  I just bought a euro

> new from MB Germany for the euro sedan.

>

> Dick

>

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> Message: 9

> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:01:28 EDT

> From: Ontheedgeracing at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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> there is a place on Airline dr i think called airline plating that will do

> that

> BRIAN

> 1983 EURO AMG 500 SEC

> SPRING TX

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> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:59:11 +0800

> From: "jack emery" <jonnery at bigpond.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] tow hook cover

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> I think my 420 is a Euro. It came from Hong Kong. It has the 1st gear 

> start

> slot in the tranny shift console & wipers on the headlamps & has a sun 

> roof,

> but no cruise control, no seat heaters, or, as far as I can tell, no seat

> memory. It also has very wide 3 piece AMG wheels which make it look mean

> from the rear. Must have looked dandy flying around HK at 20 mph! When I

> bought it from the dealer I had to have the tranny rebuilt & a new torque

> converter. It was fitted a "full repair kit". That lot cost me $A2000 & it

> was perfect 1st up.My tranny mechanic (a specialist) said most ex Hong 

> Kong

> car imports have worn out trannys because they rarely get into top gear! 

> It

> goes like the proverbial clappers, so must have a high compression motor. 

> I

> don't know what horse-power.Has 100k miles on it. I want to make the

> headlights brighter & fit driving lights in the fog light recesses. We are

> fog-deprived in this country & the local fuzz prosecutes drivers using fog

> lights for some reason, so the fogs are of no use to me.

>

> I have just looked at the grille now it is daylight, & it has only 3 bars.

> It is grey, but the colour does not matter. Perhaps you could check if one

> of your spares will fit an 85/86 SEC 420 so I can buy it. Would like a 

> price

> including shipping if you don't mind. Am not keen on buying on Ebay for 

> this

> item.

> My messages to this board are not appearing on my screen, but they are

> obviously being transmitted to other subscribers. This a bit of a puzzle.

>

>                                                        Thanks to all.

> Jack OZ

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Dick Spellman" <spell.yy at verizon.net>

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:27 AM

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] tow hook cover

>

>

>> jack emery wrote:

>>> I had a look at the picture of this item on Ebay. It has only 3 bars on

>>> it. I think the correct one had 4. Can anyone check, please? A new one 

>>> is

>>> $90.

>>> Thanks,  Jack OZ

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>>

>> Jack:

>>

>> Pretty certain I have one or two US bumper 126 chassis SEDAN tow hook

>> covers floating about.  Can't speak for whatever color they are but they

>> are US bumper.  The euro has the 3 and is wider.  I just bought a euro 

>> new

>> from MB Germany for the euro sedan.

>>

>> Dick

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

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>

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> Message: 11

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:02:29 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] tow hook cover

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Sorry Jack.  They are all sedan doors for sure.  I went through the

> exercise of running the part numbers a while back for another sec

> owner.  The two do not match up unfortunately..  You'll have to find a

> coupe tow hook cover for your sec elsewhere.  I think your 420 threw me

> as I always associated a 420 with a sedan.  Don't hear much abut 420

> coupes.  Sorry I could not be of help.

>

> Dick

>

> .jack emery wrote:

>> I think my 420 is a Euro. It came from Hong Kong. It has the 1st gear

>> start slot in the tranny shift console & wipers on the headlamps & has

>> a sun roof, but no cruise control, no seat heaters, or, as far as I

>> can tell, no seat memory. It also has very wide 3 piece AMG wheels

>> which make it look mean from the rear. Must have looked dandy flying

>> around HK at 20 mph! When I bought it from the dealer I had to have

>> the tranny rebuilt & a new torque converter. It was fitted a "full

>> repair kit". That lot cost me $A2000 & it was perfect 1st up.My tranny

>> mechanic (a specialist) said most ex Hong Kong car imports have worn

>> out trannys because they rarely get into top gear! It goes like the

>> proverbial clappers, so must have a high compression motor. I don't

>> know what horse-power.Has 100k miles on it. I want to make the

>> headlights brighter & fit driving lights in the fog light recesses. We

>> are fog-deprived in this country & the local fuzz prosecutes drivers

>> using fog lights for some reason, so the fogs are of no use to me.

>>

>> I have just looked at the grille now it is daylight, & it has only 3

>> bars. It is grey, but the colour does not matter. Perhaps you could

>> check if one of your spares will fit an 85/86 SEC 420 so I can buy it.

>> Would like a price including shipping if you don't mind. Am not keen

>> on buying on Ebay for this item.

>> My messages to this board are not appearing on my screen, but they are

>> obviously being transmitted to other subscribers. This a bit of a puzzle.

>>

>>                                                        Thanks to all.

>> Jack OZ

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Spellman" <spell.yy at verizon.net>

>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:27 AM

>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] tow hook cover

>>

>>

>>> jack emery wrote:

>>>> I had a look at the picture of this item on Ebay. It has only 3 bars

>>>> on it. I think the correct one had 4. Can anyone check, please? A

>>>> new one is $90.

>>>> Thanks,  Jack OZ

>>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>>>

>>> Jack:

>>>

>>> Pretty certain I have one or two US bumper 126 chassis SEDAN tow hook

>>> covers floating about.  Can't speak for whatever color they are but

>>> they are US bumper.  The euro has the 3 and is wider.  I just bought

>>> a euro new from MB Germany for the euro sedan.

>>>

>>> Dick

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

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> Message: 12

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:47:32 -0500

> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Alarm system

> To: MBCoupes <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Three times in the past two days my 560SEC alarm has been triggered for

> no apparent reason. I can find no doors partially open, no signs of

> intrusion, nobody parked near enough to bump it.

>

> What might be the most common points of failure of this system? Thank you!

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> Message: 13

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:56:27 -0400

> From: Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Alarm system

> To: dan at landiss.com, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461E80DB.4010606 at verizon.net>

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> Dan Landiss wrote:

>> Three times in the past two days my 560SEC alarm has been triggered

>> for no apparent reason. I can find no doors partially open, no signs

>> of intrusion, nobody parked near enough to bump it.

>>

>> What might be the most common points of failure of this system? Thank

>> you!

>>

> Hi Dan:

>

> Pin switch going bad (you'd have to pull each one attach to an ohm

> meter, depress and hold while tapping the switch case to see if you get

> a state change and see if you get a state change with a slight release

> of the pin vs. a full release) or or the infamous anti-tow sensor in the

> trunk upper left corner near fuel tank (side nearest US antenna).  I say

> infamous because it's frequently pointed to as the culprit but I have no

> idea why.

>

> Regards,

>

> Dick

>

>

>

>

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> Message: 14

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:45:01 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461EC47D.7070504 at houston.rr.com>

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> Axel Wulff wrote:

>> Doug,

>>

>> The gold plating was an aftermarket dealer option and your best bet

>> would be to check local custom shops or jewelers.

>>

>>

>>

>> Regards,

>> Axel J. Wulff

>> 610-731-5453 Cellular

>> 610-572-4611 Home

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

>>> Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

>>> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:19:27 -0500

>>>

>>> Hi All, does anyone have a source for the gold plated emblems on the

>>> trunk of a 560 SEC or a source that will re-plate them? Time has worn

>>> off the plating on the high points of the emblems.  I'm in Houston

>>> and would appreciate any direction or suggestions. Thanks

>>>

>>> Doug

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

> Thanks

>

>

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> Message: 15

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:45:26 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461EC496.7020008 at houston.rr.com>

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> William Greene wrote:

>> Go to Adsit at www.adsitco.com

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 

>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>> On Behalf Of Doug Gavin

>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:19 PM

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

>>

>> Hi All, does anyone have a source for the gold plated emblems on the 

>> trunk

>> of a 560 SEC or a source that will re-plate them? Time has worn off the

>> plating on the high points of the emblems.  I'm in Houston and would

>> appreciate any direction or suggestions. Thanks

>>

>> Doug

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>>

> Thanks

>

>

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> Message: 16

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:47:05 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a

> To: jralex at ix.netcom.com, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461EC4F9.2090307 at houston.rr.com>

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> jralex at ix.netcom.com wrote:

>> You might ask around a car dealership, any make, about their man who does 

>> pinstriping and detailing. He could have a gold plating kit or know who 

>> does. A kit might be worth buying since they are very simple consisting 

>> of a battery and gold solution. Just do a google search for gold plating 

>> kit. Those older badges are hard to find. Jim Alexander

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>>

>>> From: William Greene <whgreene at columbus.rr.com>

>>> Sent: Apr 9, 2007 10:39 PM

>>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

>>>

>>> Go to Adsit at www.adsitco.com

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 

>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>>> On Behalf Of Doug Gavin

>>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:19 PM

>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

>>>

>>> Hi All, does anyone have a source for the gold plated emblems on the 

>>> trunk

>>> of a 560 SEC or a source that will re-plate them? Time has worn off the

>>> plating on the high points of the emblems.  I'm in Houston and would

>>> appreciate any direction or suggestions. Thanks

>>>

>>> Doug

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>>

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>>

> Thanks

>

>

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> Message: 17

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:56:51 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461EC743.7020301 at houston.rr.com>

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> Richard Hogarth wrote:

>> Doug,

>> I live in Lake Charles and I'm looking for a walkin autoparts place other

>> than the dealer that stocks MB parts. Do you know of any so when I come 

>> into

>> town I can pickup some needed parts?

>> Thanks,

>> Richard Hogarth

>> Axlehead at bellsouth.net

>> 337-802-8879

>> Lake Charles, la.

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com 

>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>> On Behalf Of Doug Gavin

>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:19 PM

>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

>>

>> Hi All, does anyone have a source for the gold plated emblems on the

>> trunk of a 560 SEC or a source that will re-plate them? Time has worn

>> off the plating on the high points of the emblems.  I'm in Houston and

>> would appreciate any direction or suggestions. Thanks

>>

>> Doug

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>>

> Yes, there is a MB/BMW yard on North Shepherd in about the 6200 block on

> the right or east side. If you know Houston, it is north of North Loop

> 610. If you speak Spanish you'll get along fine. The guy(s) speak

> English O.K. and they are pretty laid back and not too service minded

> from my little experience with them. I have a 560 SEC and a 280 CE and

> have not found coupe specific items but there are usually  4 door sedans

> from many series there so some mechanical parts may be available for

> you.  I'll try to get the name for you and a phone number over the 

> weekend.

>

> Is there something specific you need? My mechanic keep a pretty good

> stash of parts. Let me know.

>

> Doug

>

>

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>

> Message: 18

> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:02:48 +0800

> From: "jack emery" <jonnery at bigpond.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Boot badge

> To: "mb coupes" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <001901c77d5f$12464a30$0100000a at homealptb3tquc>

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> reply-type=original

>

> I am thinking of fixing a "Mercedes Benz" boot badge on to the boot lid of

> my car. I think it would nice opposite the "420 SEC" badge, but I don't 

> know

> what model Benz to ask for when I go to the wreckers to enquire. Has 

> anyone

> ever done this?    Jack OZ

>

>

>

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> Message: 19

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:18:14 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461ECC46.4070809 at houston.rr.com>

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> Camran Nassiri wrote:

>> Doug- I wouldn't waste my time with gold plating.  I have yet to see a

>> decent looking gold emblem that hasn't dulled out after a year or so.

>> They are really popular in Los Ageles area and they look like crap

>> after a while.  If it was meant to be gold MBZ would have put it on

>> their cars.

>> Camran

>> 90 560SEC 91 420SEL

>>

>> > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:19:27 -0500

>> > From: dlg64 at houston.rr.com

>> > To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

>> > Subject: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

>> >

>> > Hi All, does anyone have a source for the gold plated emblems on the

>> > trunk of a 560 SEC or a source that will re-plate them? Time has worn

>> > off the plating on the high points of the emblems. I'm in Houston and

>> > would appreciate any direction or suggestions. Thanks

>> >

>> > Doug

>> > The MB Coupes Website!

>> > W126 SEC Mailing List

>> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>>

>> Take a break and play crossword puzzles - FREE! Play Now!

>> <http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_%20wlmemailtaglinemarch07>

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>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

> Thanks, this car was _gold plated _by the dealer and it's a smoke silver

> so the gold works pretty well. I agree it is a little over the top and

> flashy. The car also has the chrome slabs under the door belt moldings,

> the fender flair chromes, chrome wheels with the 420 lug nut covers with

> gold  MB circle and stars as well as chrome strips on the grill, clear

> front parking lenses and the rear light panel has the red reflector

> across the back. Needles to say the car is "pimped out" !

>

> It was purchased as I describe from the original owner with 71K. He is

> 84 years old and the car was hie retirement gift to himself in 1989.

> This car was,  (and is) as near a perfect used car that you could find

> and based on what I see on e bay I paid about 1/3 of the value.  I own

> several old cars, German, English, American Muscle and American classic

> and vintage. Each came to me with a personality and no, I would not have

> done all of the things to this car that he did but in the early '90's

> the Cadillacs, the Lincolns all had this kind of trim if you recall so

> it doesn't bother me too much and frankly when parked next to any other

> coupe other than black, it is stunning in spite of all of the add on

> stuff. So, sticking with my feeling that cars have personalties, I'll

> leave it like it is for the time being. I appreciate your comments.

>

> Doug

>

>

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> Message: 20

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:33:16 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461ECFCC.90705 at houston.rr.com>

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> Ontheedgeracing at aol.com wrote:

>> there is a place on Airline dr i think called airline plating that

>> will do that

>> BRIAN

>> 1983 EURO AMG 500 SEC

>> SPRING TX

>>

>>

>>

>> See what's free at AOL.com

>> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>.

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>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

> Thanks. they have done some chrome work for me. There is another plater

> called Atlas but he wants $125 to do the 3 pieces which I thought was

> high. Maybe not. I'll call Airline see what they say. Is there a strong

> or any coupe group or club in Houston that you know of?

>

> Doug

>

>

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> Message: 21

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:41:21 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <461ED1B1.4080504 at houston.rr.com>

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> Doug Gavin wrote:

>> Richard Hogarth wrote:

>>> Doug, I live in Lake Charles and I'm looking for a walkin autoparts

>>> place other

>>> than the dealer that stocks MB parts. Do you know of any so when I

>>> come into

>>> town I can pickup some needed parts?

>>> Thanks, Richard Hogarth

>>> Axlehead at bellsouth.net

>>> 337-802-8879

>>> Lake Charles, la.

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com

>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

>>> On Behalf Of Doug Gavin

>>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:19 PM

>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

>>>

>>> Hi All, does anyone have a source for the gold plated emblems on the

>>> trunk of a 560 SEC or a source that will re-plate them? Time has worn

>>> off the plating on the high points of the emblems.  I'm in Houston

>>> and would appreciate any direction or suggestions. Thanks

>>>

>>> Doug

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>>

>>>

>>> The MB Coupes Website!

>>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>>

>>>

>> Yes, there is a MB/BMW yard on North Shepherd in about the 6200 block

>> on the right or east side. If you know Houston, it is north of North

>> Loop 610. If you speak Spanish you'll get along fine. The guy(s) speak

>> English O.K. and they are pretty laid back and not too service minded

>> from my little experience with them. I have a 560 SEC and a 280 CE and

>> have not found coupe specific items but there are usually  4 door

>> sedans from many series there so some mechanical parts may be

>> available for you.  I'll try to get the name for you and a phone

>> number over the weekend.

>>

>> Is there something specific you need? My mechanic keep a pretty good

>> stash of parts. Let me know.

>>

>> Doug

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

> Richard, after re-reading your e mail I think you were asking for a

> parts house for new parts. If that is the case, let me ask around but to

> tell you the truth, I have found Star Motors on Old Katy Road to be

> competitive with Internet sellers if you want genuine MB parts. I'll ask

> my mechanic. 95% of his work is on MB and I've seen MB stamped stuffed

> in his shop from World Auto Parts. I've not used them but I'll ask.

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

> Message: 22

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:08:29 EDT

> From: Ontheedgeracing at aol.com

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

> Message-ID: <c35.119dad11.33504e2d at aol.com>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>

> WE HAVE THE MERCEDES BENZ CLUB FOR ALL MB CARS

> GO TO MERCEDES BENZ CLUB OF AMERICA AND GO TO

> THE HOUSTON SECTION IF YOU NEED MORE INFO

> CALL ME AT 281 850 0600

> THANKS BRIAN

>

>

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> Message: 23

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:19:53 EDT

> From: Ontheedgeracing at aol.com

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Fwd: Check out Houston Section of the

> Mercedes-Benz Club of America

> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com

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> Message: 24

> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:09:42 +1000

> From: "Robert Karl Stonjek" <rstonjek at bigpond.net.au>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Fwd: Check out Houston Section of the

> Mercedes-BenzClub of America

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> and this is explained, how?:

> Members Gallery

> Fred Mahler M3 BMW

>

> http://www.mbca.org/houston/gallery.htm

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> Message: 25

> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:05:13 +0200

> From: "Divov" <divov at tiscali.co.za>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Rear anti roll bar & toe in

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> I am busy replacing the oe rubber anti roll bar rubber mountings with 

> aluminium billets and have realised that the anti roll bar controls the 

> rear wheel alignment!

> With the bar disconnected, you can easily push the rear wheels forward or 

> aft.

> So, logically, under acceleration the rear wheels must toe in and the 

> opposite under braking when the arb mounting rubbers compress - which 

> clearly, they will do.

> These half moon mounting rubbers are obviously critical for the cars 

> handling and should be replaced as a car gets older / high mileage.

> I am going to measure very carefully and drill my aluminium billets 

> exactly mid way for the arb to sit in and then have the rear alignment 

> checked.

> There is a big 19mm bolt head on each side with a 3 eared washer behind on 

> the rear suspension where the arb links up.

> Is this the alignment adjustment?? I guess if I fiddle I will work that 

> out for myself!

>

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> Message: 26

> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:26:59 -0500

> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] gold plated emblems on a "90 560 SEC

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Ontheedgeracing at aol.com wrote:

>> WE HAVE THE MERCEDES BENZ CLUB FOR ALL MB CARS

>> GO TO MERCEDES BENZ CLUB OF AMERICA AND GO TO

>> THE HOUSTON SECTION IF YOU NEED MORE INFO

>> CALL ME AT 281 850 0600

>> THANKS BRIAN

>>

>>

>>

>> See what's free at AOL.com

>> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>.

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

> Thanks, I'll check it out.  I have owned this coupe since last August

> and to date I've only seen one other on the street in Houston and that

> was just yesterday. It was bright red with some wild wheels going north

> on 59 at Beechnut. Have you seen many out there?

>

> Doug

>

>

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>

> Message: 27

> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:53:24 -0400

> From: "Clayton Johnson" <cjohnson at i2s.com>

> Subject: [W126 Coupe] RE-SENDING---1985 AMG Euro version

> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <013401c77e9c$45549ec0$91c8a8c0 at i2snet.com>

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> Friends,

> Resubmitting my request, not sure if the first message posted.

>

>

> From: Clayton Johnson [mailto:cjohnson at i2s.com]

> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:10 PM

> To: 'mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com'

> Subject: 1985 EURO AMG

>

>

>

> Hello Gang,

>

> Happy to join and address all you fine SEC owners. Signed on maybe a year

> ago, but haven't posted till now.

> I've been sitting back and enjoying the knowledge gracing my monitor 

> screen.

> I've patiently waited for a coupe

> to become available in my area to entice me enough to give the car a test

> drive and possible purchase, tomorrow.

> I would like ask any of you knowledgeable folks for your honest opinions 

> and

> vin number decoding.

> The car in question is a 1985 AMG, European version, I'm told.    I was

> given little info pertaining to the car.

> My first question to the owner was; is it a 500 or 560?, they couldn't

> answer that. Didn't 560 first become available in 1985?

> I have read the very informative "Byers Guide to the W126 SEC" found at 

> this

> site some time ago, and the Vin decoding sheet.

> I hope the owner can provide me "data card", for the vehicle.

>

> Some questions I have for you gentlemen are:

> 1 - What codes should I find/look for that will indicate to me that this 

> is

> a genuine AMG?

> 2 - What options or equipment would constitute a genuine AMG

> 3 - Is this car desirable or collectable, low production etc. AS compared 

> to

> a 560 ?

> 4 - What to look for pertaining to how this gray market car conversion was

> handled - quality whys ?

> 5 - Does the 500 euro motor perform substantially better or comparably to

> the 560? And/or is it de-tuned

>     to comply with gray market compliance. Is emission compliance a

> frequent problem?

> 6 - Does anyone have access to run a CARFAX report for me? That would be

> greatly appreciated !

>     I will get the VIN number tomorrow and post it here.

> 7 - Any additional bits of information or opinions would be much 

> appreciated

> !!!

>

> If anyone whishes, I can be e-mail at cjohnson at i2s.com,  Should I include 

> a

> phone number?

>

>

> Thanks everyone, I'll post my results,

> Clax

>

>

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> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:08:16 -0400

> From: "Jonathan Hodgman" <jhodgman at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] RE-SENDING---1985 AMG Euro version

> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Hello Clay,

> I'll see if I can answer some of these questions for you.

>>

>>

>> Some questions I have for you gentlemen are:

>> 1 ? What codes should I find/look for that will indicate to me that this

>> is a genuine AMG?

>>

>

> There are none...  Only way to know  w/o a doubt would either be through

> paper work or a list of options that only AMG could have done (ie, 32V

> engines).

>

> 2 ? What options or equipment would constitute a genuine AMG

>>

>

> AMG's was an a-la-carte outfit.  You tell them what you want and as long 

> as

> your check book could support your request, you generally received what 

> you

> asked for.  However, quite a few cars went in for suspension, wheels and

> maybe a body kit and nothing more.  These IMHO would still be a real AMG

> even though they are light on options.

>

> 3 ? Is this car desirable or collectable, low production etc. AS compared 

> to

>> a 560 ?

>>

>

> Depends on the person, some like the Gen I cars better, but I think you'll

> find more people interested in a 560AMG over a 500AMG.

>

> 4 ? What to look for pertaining to how this gray market car conversion was

>> handled ? quality whys ?

>>

>

> Look @ the exhaust system to  start.  See how badly hacked up it is/how 

> they

> installed the cats etc..

> Check the doors for rust.if door beams were installed chances are they 

> were

> installed poorly.

> Hopefully the car will still have it's Euro bumpers and Lights.

>

> 5 ? Does the 500 euro motor perform substantially better or comparably to

>> the 560? And/or is it de-tuned

>>      to comply with gray market compliance. Is emission compliance a

>> frequent problem?

>>

>

> It's right on par w/ a stock US 560.  The 560 makes a bit more torque, but

> that's about it.

>

> 6 ? Does anyone have access to run a CARFAX report for me? That would be

>> greatly appreciated !

>>      I will get the VIN number tomorrow and post it here.

>>

>

> Sorry, my account expired.

>

> 7 ? Any additional bits of information or opinions would be much 

> appreciated

>> !!!

>>

>

> My strongest piece of advise would be to bring this car to someone who in

> intimately familiar  w/ 126's.  A good PPI can save you many, many 

> thousands

> of $$$.  9 out of 10 cars I see I would have recommended they new owner 

> pass

> on.

>

>

> Feel free to drop a line anytime, blueridgemb at gmail.com or 404 805 1357

>

> Regards

> Jonathan

>

>> If anyone whishes, I can be e-mail at cjohnson at i2s.com,  Should I include

>> a phone number?

>>

>>

>> Thanks everyone, I'll post my results,

>> Clax

>>

>

>>

>> The MB Coupes Website!

>> W126 SEC Mailing List

>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>>

>

>

>

> -- 

> Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East

> Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Modification.

> Providing quality parts to discriminating customers in all parts of the

> world.

> Located in the Greater Atlanta area.

> http://www.blueridgemb.com

> http://www.AMGEast.com

>

> 1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"

> 1991 560 SEC Full Euro ECE

> 1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs:)

> 1989 560 SEC AMG (N.Amer 250/295)

> 1987 560 SEC US Spec

> 1986 560 SEL AMG 6.0L 32V

> 1986 560 SL  White on Burgundy

> 1985 500 SEL Euro (Parts Car)

> 1985 300 CD For Sale

> 1980 280 SE Euro

> 1978 300D TMU

> 1987 560 SEL 162K Midnight Blue on Gray RIP:(

> 1987 560 SEC Sold

> 1992 E300D 140K Champagne on Parchment tex (Sold)

> 1990 560 SEC 154K Anthracite on Gray (Sold)

> 1988 300 TE 160K Burgundy on Palomino (Sold)

> 1980 280 SE US 185K (Sold)

> 2006 Z4 3.0Si M spec 6sp

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> Message: 29

> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:24:35 -0400

> From: "Clayton Johnson" <cjohnson at i2s.com>

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] RE-SENDING---1985 AMG Euro version

> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>

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> Hi Jonothan,

>

> Thanks very much for answering my questions, passing on some of your AMG

> knowledge,

> and your valuable advice. I'm going to take a look at this MB now, and 

> I'll

> fill you in when I get

> a chance. I'll drop you a line, thanks for the offer.

>

> WOW,  I see from your list you have quit a collection of Mercedes',

> Fantastic !!

>

> Regards,

> Clax

>

>

>

>  _____

>

> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodgman

> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:08 AM

> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists

> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] RE-SENDING---1985 AMG Euro version

>

>

>

> Hello Clay,

> I'll see if I can answer some of these questions for you.

>

>

> Some questions I have for you gentlemen are:

> 1 - What codes should I find/look for that will indicate to me that this 

> is

> a genuine AMG?

>

>

> There are none...  Only way to know  w/o a doubt would either be through

> paper work or a list of options that only AMG could have done (ie, 32V

> engines).

>

>

>

> 2 - What options or equipment would constitute a genuine AMG

>

>

> AMG's was an a-la-carte outfit.  You tell them what you want and as long 

> as

> your check book could support your request, you generally received what 

> you

> asked for.  However, quite a few cars went in for suspension, wheels and

> maybe a body kit and nothing more.  These IMHO would still be a real AMG

> even though they are light on options.

>

>

>

> 3 - Is this car desirable or collectable, low production etc. AS compared 

> to

> a 560 ?

>

>

> Depends on the person, some like the Gen I cars better, but I think you'll

> find more people interested in a 560AMG over a 500AMG.

>

>

>

> 4 - What to look for pertaining to how this gray market car conversion was

> handled - quality whys ?

>

>

> Look @ the exhaust system to  start.  See how badly hacked up it is/how 

> they

> installed the cats etc..

> Check the doors for rust.if door beams were installed chances are they 

> were

> installed poorly.

> Hopefully the car will still have it's Euro bumpers and Lights.

>

>

>

> 5 - Does the 500 euro motor perform substantially better or comparably to

> the 560? And/or is it de-tuned

>     to comply with gray market compliance. Is emission compliance a

> frequent problem?

>

>

> It's right on par w/ a stock US 560.  The 560 makes a bit more torque, but

> that's about it.

>

>

>

> 6 - Does anyone have access to run a CARFAX report for me? That would be

> greatly appreciated !

>     I will get the VIN number tomorrow and post it here.

>

>

> Sorry, my account expired.

>

>

>

> 7 - Any additional bits of information or opinions would be much 

> appreciated

> !!!

>

>

> My strongest piece of advise would be to bring this car to someone who in

> intimately familiar  w/ 126's.  A good PPI can save you many, many 

> thousands

> of $$$.  9 out of 10 cars I see I would have recommended they new owner 

> pass

> on.

>

>

>

> Feel free to drop a line anytime, blueridgemb at gmail.com or 404 805 1357

>

> Regards

> Jonathan

>

> If anyone whishes, I can be e-mail at cjohnson at i2s.com,  Should I include 

> a

> phone number?

>

>

> Thanks everyone, I'll post my results,

> Clax

>

>

>

>

> The MB Coupes Website!

> W126 SEC Mailing List

> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

>

>

>

>

> -- 

> Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East

> Offering Enthusiast Service, Restoration and Modification.

> Providing quality parts to discriminating customers in all parts of the

> world.

> Located in the Greater Atlanta area.

> http://www.blueridgemb.com

> http://www.AMGEast.com

>

> 1996 S600 Euro "Scharnhorst"

> 1991 560 SEC Full Euro ECE

> 1991 560 SEC 226Hp/271ft/lbs:)

> 1989 560 SEC AMG (N.Amer 250/295)

> 1987 560 SEC US Spec

> 1986 560 SEL AMG 6.0L 32V

> 1986 560 SL  White on Burgundy

> 1985 500 SEL Euro (Parts Car)

> 1985 300 CD For Sale

> 1980 280 SE Euro

> 1978 300D TMU

> 1987 560 SEL 162K Midnight Blue on Gray RIP:(

> 1987 560 SEC Sold

> 1992 E300D 140K Champagne on Parchment tex (Sold)

> 1990 560 SEC 154K Anthracite on Gray (Sold)

> 1988 300 TE 160K Burgundy on Palomino (Sold)

> 1980 280 SE US 185K (Sold)

> 2006 Z4 3.0Si M spec 6sp

>

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