[W126 Coupe] stand your ground

David Fatovic coloradocroat at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 21 21:27:09 EST 2006


Question on this.  The duty to retreat law.  Do they
mean if someone comes up to me with a gun and demands
my car, I am by law forced to retreat and give up my
car or else the law is not in my favor?  If that is
the case, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard!
 Someone tries to jack my car, I am not just goint to
give it up!  

I know in Colorado we have the "Make My Day Law" which
allows a person to use deadly force on an individual
breaking into their home.  One thing you have to make
sure is you shoot the SOB in the chest not in the
back!

David

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> i just wanted to post this article i saw 
>  it is not my intention to start a pro/anti gun
> control debate i  just wanted 
> to add to the discussion 
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> :
> 
> By Richard Willing, USA  TODAY
> 
> (March 21) -- A year after Florida became the first
> state to  allow citizens 
> to use deadly force against muggers, carjackers and
> other  attackers, the idea 
> is spreading. 
> 
> South Dakota has enacted a  similar law, Indiana
> Gov. Mitch Daniels plans to 
> sign such a measure  today, and 15 other states are
> considering such proposals.
> 
> Several  states are expanding self-defense rights to
> crimes committed in  
> public.
> 
> Dubbed "Stand Your Ground" bills by supporters such
> as the  National Rifle 
> Association, the measures generally grant immunity
> from  prosecution and 
> lawsuits to those who use deadly force to combat any
>  unlawful entry or attack. 
> 
> Several states allow people to use  deadly force in
> their homes against 
> intruders; the new measures represent  an expansion
> of self-defense rights to 
> crimes committed in  public.
> 
> The NRA and other supporters say the bills are
> needed in  many states that 
> require people under attack in public places to
> withdraw  from the situation, 
> rather than retaliate, unless they can show their 
> lives are in danger. 
> 
> "For someone attacked by criminals to be  victimized
> a second time by a 
> second-guessing legal system is wrong," the  NRA's
> Wayne LaPierre says.
> 
> Critics, including the Brady Campaign To  Prevent
> Gun Violence, say the bills 
> encourage vigilantism and would make  it more likely
> that confrontations 
> would turn deadly. Zach Ragbourn of the  Brady group
> says the proposals "are more 
> accurately called 'Shoot First'  laws. They allow a
> person who just feels 
> something bad is going to happen  to open fire in
> public."
> 
> The idea that people should use deadly  force only
> to defend their lives is 
> rooted in English common law, author  Richard
> Maxwell Brown says in No Duty To 
> Retreat: Violence and Values in  American History
> and Society. 
> 
> Another common law principle, the  "duty to
> retreat," requires people to 
> avoid potentially deadly  confrontations. The
> principles apply in most states. 
> 
> The duty to  retreat generally doesn't apply in a
> person's home.
> 
> LaPierre says  the NRA is targeting 29
> duty-to-retreat states where people 
> can be  prosecuted, sued or both if they don't
> retreat from criminal  attacks.
> 
> Ragbourn says the proposals aim to "fix a system
> that  isn't broken. People 
> aren't being thrown into jail for legitimate 
> self-defense. There's no crisis 
> here."
> 
> Florida's law could be  facing its first test. 
> 
> Donald Montanez, owner of a Tampa towing  company,
> is charged with murder in 
> the shooting of a man whose car was  impounded.
> Prosecutors say Montanez fired 
> as the man drove off without  paying a fee.
> Montanez's attorney, Roger Rigau, 
> says the new law should  protect Montanez, who
> feared being hit by the 
> driver.  
> 
> 
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