[W126 Coupe] stand your ground
David Fatovic
coloradocroat at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 21 21:27:09 EST 2006
Question on this. The duty to retreat law. Do they
mean if someone comes up to me with a gun and demands
my car, I am by law forced to retreat and give up my
car or else the law is not in my favor? If that is
the case, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard!
Someone tries to jack my car, I am not just goint to
give it up!
I know in Colorado we have the "Make My Day Law" which
allows a person to use deadly force on an individual
breaking into their home. One thing you have to make
sure is you shoot the SOB in the chest not in the
back!
David
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> i just wanted to post this article i saw
> it is not my intention to start a pro/anti gun
> control debate i just wanted
> to add to the discussion
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> By Richard Willing, USA TODAY
>
> (March 21) -- A year after Florida became the first
> state to allow citizens
> to use deadly force against muggers, carjackers and
> other attackers, the idea
> is spreading.
>
> South Dakota has enacted a similar law, Indiana
> Gov. Mitch Daniels plans to
> sign such a measure today, and 15 other states are
> considering such proposals.
>
> Several states are expanding self-defense rights to
> crimes committed in
> public.
>
> Dubbed "Stand Your Ground" bills by supporters such
> as the National Rifle
> Association, the measures generally grant immunity
> from prosecution and
> lawsuits to those who use deadly force to combat any
> unlawful entry or attack.
>
> Several states allow people to use deadly force in
> their homes against
> intruders; the new measures represent an expansion
> of self-defense rights to
> crimes committed in public.
>
> The NRA and other supporters say the bills are
> needed in many states that
> require people under attack in public places to
> withdraw from the situation,
> rather than retaliate, unless they can show their
> lives are in danger.
>
> "For someone attacked by criminals to be victimized
> a second time by a
> second-guessing legal system is wrong," the NRA's
> Wayne LaPierre says.
>
> Critics, including the Brady Campaign To Prevent
> Gun Violence, say the bills
> encourage vigilantism and would make it more likely
> that confrontations
> would turn deadly. Zach Ragbourn of the Brady group
> says the proposals "are more
> accurately called 'Shoot First' laws. They allow a
> person who just feels
> something bad is going to happen to open fire in
> public."
>
> The idea that people should use deadly force only
> to defend their lives is
> rooted in English common law, author Richard
> Maxwell Brown says in No Duty To
> Retreat: Violence and Values in American History
> and Society.
>
> Another common law principle, the "duty to
> retreat," requires people to
> avoid potentially deadly confrontations. The
> principles apply in most states.
>
> The duty to retreat generally doesn't apply in a
> person's home.
>
> LaPierre says the NRA is targeting 29
> duty-to-retreat states where people
> can be prosecuted, sued or both if they don't
> retreat from criminal attacks.
>
> Ragbourn says the proposals aim to "fix a system
> that isn't broken. People
> aren't being thrown into jail for legitimate
> self-defense. There's no crisis
> here."
>
> Florida's law could be facing its first test.
>
> Donald Montanez, owner of a Tampa towing company,
> is charged with murder in
> the shooting of a man whose car was impounded.
> Prosecutors say Montanez fired
> as the man drove off without paying a fee.
> Montanez's attorney, Roger Rigau,
> says the new law should protect Montanez, who
> feared being hit by the
> driver.
>
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