[W126 Coupe] Tire pressures

Kivendren Moodliyar moodliyar at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 5 02:54:37 EDT 2006


Hi Guys
  For a 380SEC, i have 17mags and tyres as follows: 245/40.
   
  What pressure should i have opted for as i added nitrogen this weekend when i put brand new tyres current pressure = 210 psi.

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5. RE: Tire pressures (David Fatovic)
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15. RE: Tire pressures (Eddie)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:55:14 -0400
From: "Rusty Cullens" 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Idle control valve
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
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They are NOT the same. The part number for US version is 000 141 12 25.
The number for Euro version is 000 141 14 25. We sell the Euro version
for $299.00.

Rusty Cullens
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1-800-741-5252
http://www.BuyMBparts.com 



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Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Idle control valve

So not one person here knows if this will work? 


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:00:08 -0400
From: "Axel Wulff" 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone any 
idea why helium was not considered?

Like nitrogen, it is an inert gas and will not burn or cause explosions (I 
mean detonations, not blowing out tires due to excessive pressure 
build-up..).

Not much of a weight gain, but with unsprung weight, every ounce counts.



Regards,
Axel J. Wulff
610-731-5453 Cellular
610-572-4611 Home





>From: "Shayegan, Richard" 
>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" 
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:40:44 -0400
>
>It's not about pressures going up too quickly, it's about pressures going 
>up consistently. At any given time air can be made up of different things, 
>but the nitrogen they use is always the same so they know exactly what hot 
>pressure will be yeilded by a given cold pressure. Ask da boy from 
>Charlotte.
>Richard
>
>________________________________
>
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of Dan Landiss
>Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 9:25 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>
>
>
>Axel Wulff wrote:
> > I like to go to the highest elevation in the Rocky Mountains to change
> > my air.
> >
> > The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life and is gentler on the
> > rubber and, as everyone knows, the air is lighter at high altitude so
> > I save weight.
>
>All kidding aside, the race tire suppliers now pump all the air out of
>newly-mounted tires and replace it with dry air or dry nitrogen. Reason?
>When it heats up, the water vapor expands faster than dry air would, and
>thus the pressures go up too fast.
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:13:48 +0000
From: malcolm369 at comcast.net
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
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:o)

Cheers, Malcolm
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From: "Axel Wulff" 
> I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone any 
> idea why helium was not considered?
> 
> Like nitrogen, it is an inert gas and will not burn or cause explosions (I 
> mean detonations, not blowing out tires due to excessive pressure 
> build-up..).
> 
> Not much of a weight gain, but with unsprung weight, every ounce counts.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Shayegan, Richard" 
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
> >To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" 
> >Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:40:44 -0400
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:27:58 -0500
From: Dan Landiss 
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
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Axel Wulff wrote:
> I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone 
> any idea why helium was not considered?

Molecules too small, leaks out quickly.


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Fatovic 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
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Just a thought, but don't forget all race cars in all
race classes (NASCAR, IRL, Formula 1, etc) have a
minimum weight requirement that they already are at
usually. So I don't know how you could get around
that.

David

--- Axel Wulff wrote:

> I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their
> tires, but has anyone any 
> idea why helium was not considered?
> 
> Like nitrogen, it is an inert gas and will not burn
> or cause explosions (I 
> mean detonations, not blowing out tires due to
> excessive pressure 
> build-up..).
> 
> Not much of a weight gain, but with unsprung weight,
> every ounce counts.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Shayegan, Richard" 
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> 
> >To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists"
> 
> >Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:40:44 -0400
> >
> >It's not about pressures going up too quickly, it's
> about pressures going 
> >up consistently. At any given time air can be made
> up of different things, 
> >but the nitrogen they use is always the same so
> they know exactly what hot 
> >pressure will be yeilded by a given cold pressure.
> Ask da boy from 
> >Charlotte.
> >Richard
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of
> Dan Landiss
> >Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 9:25 AM
> >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >
> >
> >
> >Axel Wulff wrote:
> > > I like to go to the highest elevation in the
> Rocky Mountains to change
> > > my air.
> > >
> > > The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life
> and is gentler on the
> > > rubber and, as everyone knows, the air is
> lighter at high altitude so
> > > I save weight.
> >
> >All kidding aside, the race tire suppliers now pump
> all the air out of
> >newly-mounted tires and replace it with dry air or
> dry nitrogen. Reason?
> >When it heats up, the water vapor expands faster
> than dry air would, and
> >thus the pressures go up too fast.
> >
> >--
> >
> > 
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> are doing when
> > they are merely rearranging their prejudices. 
> --William James
> > 
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Fatovic 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
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But if you are measuring the weight of two items of
controlled size and one is less dense, wouldn't it
weigh less then?

David

--- "Shayegan, Richard" 
wrote:

> Cute, but wrong...I think. The air is simply less
> dense at higher elevation, meaning that the air will
> still weigh the same to make a given pressure, it'll
> just take you longer to put
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of
> Axel Wulff
> Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 7:12 AM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> 
> 
> 
> I like to go to the highest elevation in the Rocky
> Mountains to change my
> air.
> 
> The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life and is
> gentler on the rubber
> and, as everyone knows, the air is lighter at high
> altitude so I save
> weight.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Dick Spellman 
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> 
> >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> 
> >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:57:15 -0400
> >
> >Hey Bill. I am one step ahead of you. I already
> replaced the winter air
> >with spring air so the summer air is a no brainer.
> >
> >Dick
> >
> >Bill P. wrote:
> >
> >>Dick don't forget to change out the winter air for
> summer air in since it
> >>is
> >>fairly close to the season!
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> >>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]On
> >>Behalf Of Dick Spellman
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 23:10
> >>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >>
> >>Thanks Dan for the reassuring news. So, I'll
> adjust for tomorrows run
> >>40 front, 38 rear just to see how it handles. And
> thanks Axel for the
> >>tire rack confirmation.
> >>
> >>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:18:32 -0700
From: "Eddie" 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
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Actually you can get nitrogen for your tires from Allen Tire (I think they
bought out the Goodyear stores?).

Eddie

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Landiss
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures

Axel Wulff wrote:
> I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone 
> any idea why helium was not considered?

Molecules too small, leaks out quickly.


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:39:35 -0300
From: Lance 
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:00:44 -0500
From: Dan Landiss 
Subject: [W126 Coupe] AC Blower
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I think the HVAC blower motor in my 1991 560SEC has given up. Is the 
procedure for getting it out about the same as my former 300TE, now 
leading a life of luxury in Florida? Any hints and tips? Thanks!

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:42:00 -0400
From: "PHILIP GERONIMO" 

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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:28:31 +0700
From: Madelyn 
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:37:06 -0400
From: Dick Spellman 
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] (no subject)
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Hi Philip:

Thermostat 83 C and replenish the anti-freeze with Zerex G05 or MB 
antifreeze only.
Visco Fan Clutch
Check your various belts and hoses at the same time
Where you are in Boulder you could wire-up a relay for the aux fans to 
always be on when the AC is selected on the climate control.

In any event, you likely need the tstat and visco fan clutch to resolve 
the overheating before you end up with bigger problems like head gasket 
etc. The above presumes you do not see coolant loss and/or you do not 
see bubbles in the coolant expansion tank with engine running, in other 
words the head gasket remains intact at this time. You can get a deal 
on parts from Jonathan or Rusty for the SEC.

Regards,

Dick

PHILIP GERONIMO wrote:

>
>
> Hello, I just bought a 1987 560 SEC. It flirts with overheating, i.e. 
> during normal driving, no matter what conditions the temp gage climbs 
> to 120C and the red zone, and then the aux fan kicks in, in order of 
> frequency, what is the most likely cause? I need to prioritize my 
> spending. Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> Philip, Boulder CO
>
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:38:08 -0400
From: Dick Spellman 
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] AC Blower
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Hi Dan:

Do you have a passenger air bag in that 91?

Dick

Dan Landiss wrote:

> I think the HVAC blower motor in my 1991 560SEC has given up. Is the 
> procedure for getting it out about the same as my former 300TE, now 
> leading a life of luxury in Florida? Any hints and tips? Thanks!
>


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:09:44 -0700
From: "Eddie" 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
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Actually you can get nitrogen for your tires from Allen Tire (I think they
bought out the Goodyear stores?).

Eddie

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Landiss
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures

Axel Wulff wrote:
> I was aware that race cars use nitrogen in their tires, but has anyone 
> any idea why helium was not considered?

Molecules too small, leaks out quickly.


-- 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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they are merely rearranging their prejudices. --William James
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:58:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary 
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] (no subject)
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
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hey dick i use off-the-shelf preston anti freeze is this bad? also the part about the aux fans...i have an 88 sec...do the fans come on when i turn on the a/c? and if not how do make that happen. i live in san diego, california.

Dick Spellman wrote: Hi Philip:

Thermostat 83 C and replenish the anti-freeze with Zerex G05 or MB 
antifreeze only.
Visco Fan Clutch
Check your various belts and hoses at the same time
Where you are in Boulder you could wire-up a relay for the aux fans to 
always be on when the AC is selected on the climate control.

In any event, you likely need the tstat and visco fan clutch to resolve 
the overheating before you end up with bigger problems like head gasket 
etc. The above presumes you do not see coolant loss and/or you do not 
see bubbles in the coolant expansion tank with engine running, in other 
words the head gasket remains intact at this time. You can get a deal 
on parts from Jonathan or Rusty for the SEC.

Regards,

Dick

PHILIP GERONIMO wrote:

>
>
> Hello, I just bought a 1987 560 SEC. It flirts with overheating, i.e. 
> during normal driving, no matter what conditions the temp gage climbs 
> to 120C and the red zone, and then the aux fan kicks in, in order of 
> frequency, what is the most likely cause? I need to prioritize my 
> spending. Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> Philip, Boulder CO
>
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:21:58 +1000
From: "Mark Addison" 
Subject: [W126 Coupe] wooden steering wheel for a 1989.
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The Ebay item has no airbag facility.
I could not trade off ascetics for safety. 
Just my thought.
Mark Addison
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:28:13 -0400
From: "Shayegan, Richard" 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" 
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I dunno, I'm a poli sci guy. I'm just sorta thinking it through. To get a certain pressure you need a certain volume, so...so yeah I'm an idiot, by being less dense it would have that same volume with less molecules wouldn't it.

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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of David Fatovic
Sent: Fri 6/2/2006 1:57 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures



But if you are measuring the weight of two items of
controlled size and one is less dense, wouldn't it
weigh less then?

David

--- "Shayegan, Richard" 
wrote:

> Cute, but wrong...I think. The air is simply less
> dense at higher elevation, meaning that the air will
> still weigh the same to make a given pressure, it'll
> just take you longer to put
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of
> Axel Wulff
> Sent: Thu 6/1/2006 7:12 AM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
>
>
>
> I like to go to the highest elevation in the Rocky
> Mountains to change my
> air.
>
> The fresh, non-polluted air extends tire life and is
> gentler on the rubber
> and, as everyone knows, the air is lighter at high
> altitude so I save
> weight.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Dick Spellman 
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> 
> >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> 
> >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:57:15 -0400
> >
> >Hey Bill. I am one step ahead of you. I already
> replaced the winter air
> >with spring air so the summer air is a no brainer.
> >
> >Dick
> >
> >Bill P. wrote:
> >
> >>Dick don't forget to change out the winter air for
> summer air in since it
> >>is
> >>fairly close to the season!
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> >>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]On
> >>Behalf Of Dick Spellman
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 23:10
> >>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
> >>
> >>Thanks Dan for the reassuring news. So, I'll
> adjust for tomorrows run
> >>40 front, 38 rear just to see how it handles. And
> thanks Axel for the
> >>tire rack confirmation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:46:46 -0400
From: Dick Spellman 
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] (no subject)
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
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Hi Gary;

The only two anti-freeze brands recommended for the Mercedes are Zerex 
G05 (hard to find and $12/gallon) and the MB antifreeze at the 
stealership (very pricey like$23/gallon).

Stu Ritter at mercedeslist.com did a write-up on Mercedes that operate 
at high altitude or in year round warm climates like San Diego. You 
simply remove the two leads from the fan switch on the receiver dryer 
and wire them into a single pole form c relay (one to Common the other 
to N.O.)that accepts a 12 volt trigger. The 12 volt trigger is acquired 
from one of the 3 pins on the ac compressor clutch housing. You'll need 
a volt meter to confirm which one goes 12VDC positive when AC is 
selected on the climate control. I did this on one of my 300SE's 
operating a Nippondenso compressor so I can take a photo or two if that 
helps. I also used an ELK relay part # ELK-912 or if you prefer larger 
screw terminals ELK-912B found at www.elkproducts.com This relay coil 
is rated at 7amps 30VDC so it's more than adequate. I then wrapped it 
in self-seal foil to keep the moisture out. Ground for the relay coil 
is found at the radiator vertical support right next to the receiver 
dryer where you should see a MB ground point with many brown wires attached.

By the way since I did the relay wiring because I had a steady high temp 
while the AC was on (just shy of 120 C) with new tstat and visco 
clutch. Since I replaced the radiator there is no need for the relay 
wiring where I live near Boston, MA and on hot days the coolant temp now 
sits about 90 C. So, in my case it was the radiator failing after 110k 
miles or so. You should try and test the condition of your radiator 
with one of the IR temperature probes if you manage to get your hands on 
one. Then you can see if the radiator has any patches where it's 
blocked and therefore not providing the surface area that you need for 
complete cooling capacity.

Regards,

Dick

Gary wrote:

> hey dick i use off-the-shelf preston anti freeze is this bad? 
> also the part about the aux fans...i have an 88 sec...do the fans come 
> on when i turn on the a/c? and if not how do make that happen. i 
> live in san diego, california.
>
> */Dick Spellman /* wrote:
>
> Hi Philip:
>
> Thermostat 83 C and replenish the anti-freeze with Zerex G05 or MB
> antifreeze only.
> Visco Fan Clutch
> Check your various belts and hoses at the same time
> Where you are in Boulder you could wire-up a relay for the aux
> fans to
> always be on when the AC is selected on the climate control.
>
> In any event, you likely need the tstat and visco fan clutch to
> resolve
> the overheating before you end up with bigger problems like head
> gasket
> etc. The above presumes you do not see coolant loss and/or you do not
> see bubbles in the coolant expansion tank with engine running, in
> other
> words the head gasket remains intact at this time. You can get a deal
> on parts from Jonathan or Rusty for the SEC.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dick
>
> PHILIP GERONIMO wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello, I just bought a 1987 560 SEC. It flirts with overheating,
> i.e.
> > during normal driving, no matter what conditions the temp gage
> climbs
> > to 120C and the red zone, and then the aux fan kicks in, in
> order of
> > frequency, what is the most likely cause? I need to prioritize my
> > spending. Thanks in advance for the help.
> >
> > Philip, Boulder CO
> >
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:34:47 -0700
From: "Kenneth Delmar Hopkins" 
Subject: [W126 Coupe] vandalized yet again...need parts.
To: 
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:31:35 -0500
From: Dan Landiss 
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] AC Blower
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
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Dick Spellman wrote:
> Hi Dan:
>
> Do you have a passenger air bag in that 91?

Guess so, no glovebox.

-- 

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Thinking is what a great many people think they are doing when
they are merely rearranging their prejudices. --William James
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:38:24 -0400
From: "Bill P." 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures
To: "Robert Karl Stonjek" , "Mercedes Coupes
Mailing Lists" 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Oh sure be Mr. fancy pants and get the most expensive air going! ; )

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Robert Karl Stonjek
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 07:51
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Tire pressures

I only use genuine Mercedes Benz air from an authorised dealer - no cheap
generic air for me!!
Robert


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