[W126 Coupe] RE:LETS HELP THIS WEB SITE!!!!!

[Richard Hogarth]

WILL YOU GUYS PLEASE TAKE THIS OUT TO THE PARKING LOT OR TALK THIS OUT ON
THE PHONE WITH
A MEDIATOR.  
SOME OF US WANT TO TALK ABOUT CARS. NOTHING GOOD COMES OF THIS ANGER.
IF ENTHUSIASTS AROUND A FUN HOBBY CAN'T MAKE PEACE AND GET ALONG, THERE
IS NOT MUCH HOPE FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD. 
-RPH 

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of attila13 at bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:31 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: Re: [W126 Coupe] RE:LETS HELP THIS WEB SITE!!!!!

Not so fast buddy boy!!!   You only think you're done, but not I.

You screwed-up twice. I will address your lie filled E-mail below in a
minute, but first, let me clarify the intial transgression before anyone in
the group buys into your brand of B.S.

I was willing to let the Orlando incident go, because I figured I will never
deal with you again anyway, nor would I ever have to see you again. But, you
had to jump on Dick Spellman for making a simple and reasonable request of
the group in general. Not you!!! Dick is the quintessential MBCoupes member
and I can say that from years of being a participant. He posts regularly and
consistantly and attempts to answer anyone's question to the best of his
technical knowledge. 
He takes his time, no matter what the topic or who poses the brain riddle.
He is liberal with his know-how or hands-on experience and posts lengthy
replies which are clear enough for even the newest and least knowledgable
person to put to instant and productive use. In short, this site was set-up
with people like Dick in mind. Share and impart information about our cars.
You, on the other hand post maybe once every six months and usually
something irrelevant or juvenile. And you said 'look in the archives'. Yes,
do take a look, please.
It will verify what I'm saying here about your grand participation. Go
ahead, cut your own throat and compare yourself to Dick. You're not not even
in the same universe.
And this from a person who cannot fix a high idle on his 560SEC, for two
years running!! For those who don't know, your family owned a Benz
dealership and considering, you know nothing about these cars. Why? Because
you are only interested in the snob factor of driving one, not the marquee.
There was a member named Ken Buck on this list not long ago. He was
excellent technically, also liberal with his knowledge and input and an
all-around nice guy.
I met him at the Las Vegas get-together. Precisely because of the kind of
behavior you exhibited towards Dick, Ken has withdrawn from the list. A loss
to all, but you could care less, because you care nothing about the others.
And you don't speak for the group. Understand?
Now as to Orlando. You offered me that so called engine on many occasions. 
That should have been my first clue. Because if it was such a great deal,
you would have put it up for the highest bidder. But, you tried to buddy up
to me on many occasions, so I figured you were either being a good guy or
just trying to help out a fellow member. Wow, was I ever wrong!!! Finally,
at the last meet your loud-mouthed friend blurted-out $100. You agreed. So,
I figured if the 'engine' 
was anywhere near what you described, I could simply store it in my car-shop
and would find some use for it later. So, I agreed. This was no open-ended
offer as you describe. It was not lunch, it was not free, it was $100,
period. Liar. Also, the first time we spoke about it, the mileage was 72k.
Then it became 82k. Then finally 90k. Liar again. So I picked-up my friend
Larry, that Saturday and we headed for Orlando. When we arrived, some 3
hours later, you were nowhere to be found. 
So naturally we looked for the engine. We looked and looked, not realizing
that we were right on top of it. The reason we couldn't find it, was because
this was the biggest pile of shit for an engine, that either one of us had
seen in a long time. (Larry is a car guy also, he works for Advanced). It
was completely corroded, pitted with rust, holes in the metal, filthy dirty
and had so many parts missing, it looked like a lawn-mower engine. I also
looked at the 6.3 in the car-port, which you said I could have for free. Now
I could see why. It was despicable, inside and out. To let a car like that
go to pure junk, would be expected of someone living in a trailer-park.
Hint.
We just shook our heads. Waiting for you, we took a tour through the house
which looked like the car-port. After 30 minutes we headed out. For you to
say that you were pissed, simply based on the fact that we were a no-show,
is just a smoke-screen to hide the fact that your little stunt to have us
haul off your trash didn't work. As another member told you, I'm not in the
business of hauling garbage from your curb to mine. You now had to pay to
have someone haul off the 'engine' and the 6.3. That's why you were pissed.
We have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that we were there. As you were
asked before, how did we end-up with the little gold colored flashlight, if
we weren't there? Answer that.
And how do I know it cost you money and the real reason? Larry drove down
the following week-end by himself, hoping you would be there, moving out. He
was going to kick your ass, because he HATES being called a liar. Instead he
ran into the new owner, who told him all of this. And where were you, when
you were suppoosed to meet us? Did you even drive down? We didn't see you.
Did anyone else? And you are indignant? Who wasted who's time, you jerk. You
called 6 times? You called once, about an hour after we left, asking where
we were. My cell captures numbers, as does every other cell. Proof beyond a
doubt your a liar. 
At least you're woman enough to admit that you slandered me. That much I'll
give you. The rest is pure fabrication, to endear yourself to the group.
And to prove just what a self-centered idiot you are, you try to belittle me
for showing up in a non-Benz set of wheels, when you at the exact same time
show-up in a Hummer!!! And this from a guy who pounds his chest at having
7 Benzes. That's like Charles Manson sitting on Al Capone's jury. You truly
are beyond arrogant and have no brains at all. 
Anyone who befriends someone else or acts like their buddy, simply with the
intent to take advantage of them or use them, is a piece of shit in my book.

And that's exactly what you are. The others can draw their own conclusion. 
BTW. I related this story to 2 of your doc acquaintances up here and they
both said 'don't ever do any business with that guy'. Don't forget, I do
loans for alot of docs. If you didn't like what's in the box, don't open the
lid. You did.
Now do like Dick suggested, and crawl back into your hole and keep you mouth
shut. Otherwise bring it on both barrels, and I'll be revealing even more
facts about you. In case you forgot, I can help you unsubscribe. As you have
said, you don't care about this group anyway.



> 
> From: FOOTFXR52 at aol.com
> Date: 2006/02/15 Wed PM 08:45:14 EST
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] RE:LETS HELP THIS WEB SITE!!!!!
> 
> In a message dated 2/13/2006 11:53:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> attila13 at bellsouth.net writes:
> Ever since your failed Orlando stunt to have someone else
>        haul your trash for you, you have been making some very 
>        derogatory and slanderous remarks about me to various 
>        MBCoupsters. You think they don't talk to me? Think again 
>        toe sniffer.
> ATTILLA,   SINCE YOU'VE DECIDED TO CALL ME OUT IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM I WILL

> REPLY DIRECTLY TO THE MATTER ONCE AND THEN BE DONE WITH IT. 
> 
> FIRST THE ORLANDO STUNT WAS SIMPLY MY OFFERING YOU A 90 K MI OLD 5.0 
> ENG COMPLETE WITH TRANS, HEADERS, FAN ETC WHICH I HAD STORED AT MY 
> HOUSE IN ORLANDO WHICH WAS ABOUT TO BE DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT. I TOLD 
> YOU ANY THING YOU FELT IT WAS WORTH TO YOU WOULD BE FINE AS I WOULD 
> NOT BE USING IT IN MY '82 AS I HAVE DECIDED TO DO A 119 INSTEAD.  
> LUNCH OR EVEN FREE IF YOU COULD USE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE. I DIDN'T 
> NEED ANY "TRASH" HAULED AWAY AS THE HOUSE WAS TO BE DEMOLISHED ANYWAY. 
> MY ONLY COMPLAINT WAS YOU NOT TELLING ME YOU WEREN'T GOING TO SHOW OR 
> AT LEAST RETURNING ONE OF AT LEAST SIX OF MY CALLS AS MY FRIEND MY 
> WIFE, AND I WAITED THERE FOR YOU FOR MOST OF THE DAY TO HELP YOU LOAD 
> IT INTO YOUR PICK UP. IT IS THE LACK OF COMMON COURTESY THAT PISSED ME 
> OFF ESPECIALLY AS I WAS TRYING TO DO YOU A FAVOR. I COULD EASILY HAVE 
> STAYED HOME AND NOT DRIVEN THE 90 MI EACH WAY AND LET THE ENGINE GO WITH
THE HOUSE DEMO, WHICH IS WHAT DID EVENTUALLY HAPPEN.
> 
> AS FOR THE SLANDEROUS COMMENTS, ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN YOUR BEHAVIOR AT 
> ANY OF THE MEETINGS YOU HAVE ATTENDED SURELY KNOWS THAT I COULD NEVER 
> FABRICATE A STORY THAT COULD IMPUGN YOUR REPUTATION MORE THAN YOUR OWN 
> DECISIONS AND/OR BEHAVIORS HAVE ALREADY.
> 
> AS TO MY "TOE SNIFFING" IT SEEMS TO SUIT ME AS I COUNT SEVEN "FACTUAL" 
> MB'S IN MY DRIVE AND HAVE YET TO SHOW UP TO AN SEC MEET IN A MAZDA!!
> 
> DONE WITH THIS MATTER AM I,
> 
> ROBIN
> 
> 


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