[W126 Coupe] Re: exhaust question

[brucegorsak at netscape.net]

 Will that Euro exhaust fit a 500SE?
 
Bruce Gorsak
'49 Fiat 100B Cabriolete, '64 190D, '64 Plymouth Big Block Fury,
'72 280SE 4.5, '73 450SL, '75 300D, '80 300TD,
'82 500SE, '82 380SEC, '86 560SEL 
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Euro Exhaust For Sale (mattpetersen at ihug.co.nz)
   2. Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Spring 2006/126 Invitational Rallye
      (bruce tranter)
   3. Timber replacement shifter piece. (Mark Addison)
   4. RE: Gearbox wiring help really, really needed please!
      (Ian Gatenby)
   5. RE: Gearbox wiring help really, really needed please!
      (Ian Gatenby)
   6. Need Front End Bra (Montgomery, Richard "Rick")
   7. RE: Euro Exhaust For Sale (Mike R.)
   8. RE: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 15, Issue 12 (drmet at pacbell.net)
   9. Re: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17 (Kweku Biney -Assan)
  10. Re: Re: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17 (airedale at sbcglobal.net)
  11. Re: wood trim (skorupa at aol.com)
  12. Re: Need Front End Bra (Jay Hirsch)
  13. HYDO LEAK (clay)
  14. Re: Need Front End Bra (Malcolm Lee)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:10:33 +1300
From: mattpetersen at ihug.co.nz
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Euro Exhaust For Sale
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <43e01899.33.29e8.2117546806 at ihug.co.nz>

How come you aren't going to use them Mike?

They look pretty!

Matt.

> I've decided not to use this Euro dual exhaust setup on my
> '87 560SEC M117, so it's first come first gets. They have
> been Jet-Hot coated and then stored. Between purchase and
> the ceramic coating, I have $175 in them. WYSIWYG, even
> the paper towels if so desired!
>
>
>
> The part numbers on the manifolds are:
>
> 117-142-25-02
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> 117-142-26-02
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> 117-142-38-02
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> 117-142-64-02
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>
>
> Later,
>
> Mike R.
>
> (702) 494-8056
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> mramay at att.biz
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:30:16 -0500
From: "bruce tranter" <cousinbruce at hotmail.com>
Subject: Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Spring 2006/126 Invitational Rallye
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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Hey Markus
I won't say where but I had heard that you should be comitted or were/am! 
SIC (Memorial Day weekend is out for me, as I'm already committed...(ha 
ha)... )

Count me in if the Gods wiill allow and avow!

And Ellen
All I can say to your
Hmmm Theme

IS

TOGA TOGA TOGA

And I heard you thinking, and we will have NONE of that Mr. Ramay!







Message: 2
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:30:48 -0500 (EST)
From: "Markus Meyer" <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Spring 2006/126 Invitational Rallye
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Message-ID: <20060131153048.C7A473938 at email.iwon.com>
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Memorial Day weekend is out for me, as I'm already committed...(ha ha)... 
Most
of July I'll be on the road in the RV, heading towards South Dakota with a 
few
stops along the way in Chicago, maybe Detroit, KC, St. Louis, etc. so that 
month
is out. So I guess if early May is out, then June is the best month?  
Saturday
might be better if we are thinking of the "after drive party" rather than
Sunday, especially if some folks are coming down from further away and 
needing
to stay overnight.  So the 3rd, 10th, 17th or 24th. Just my 2 cents... 
Markus---
On Tue 01/31, 190girl < 190girl at earthlink.net > wrote:From: 190girl
[mailto: 190girl at earthlink.net]To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.comDate: Tue, 31 Jan 
2006
00:20:30 -0500Subject: [W126 Coupe] Spring 2006/126 Invitational RallyeDear 
SEC
Mid Atlantic Drivers:Markus and I cordially invite you to attend the Spring
2006/126Invitational Rallye to be held by date of group choice any weekend
thatworks between late May and July for an automotive

event of Rallye,Entertainment, and Catered Dinner and Cocktails in the 
scenic
hills ofnorthwestern New Jersey. With fond memories of Markus' distributor
capfrying to a crisp as the sun went down in a remote New Jersey reservoiras 
the
Black Bears began their night prowl, we invite you, too, tocreate your own
special memories as the Park Ranger looks on and says"You Guys Need Help? 
All
Those Hoods Flipped Open?". This event is notto be missed. (Neither are the
Legs.)We envision a Saturday afternoon 2-3 hour Question Rallye for Couples
inW126 cars, Coupe or Sedan as you prefer, designed to invoke 
divorceproceedings
at rallye's end. Star Cruiser will lead her flock ofhapless Rallye Cars 
conga
line style through the lost hills of westernNJ while you answer in-car
questions, some of which may have debatableanswers providing for cocktail 
party
fodder later on, stopping for aphoto shoot and car parts check up, and
continuing on to the finish lineas the sun sets.Likely to return to
The House of Benz, we will unwind sadistically witha tough MBz engineering 
quiz
on gear ratios, bore and stroke,compression ratings, and torque, to see how
smart you really are, or ifmathmatical equations are sharpened with internal
consumption ofalcohol. Otherwise known as Happy Hour, we can now kick back 
and
andenjoy our day, or kick tires if you prefer (but please, not mine.)Dinner 
may
be either Pot Luck (I fear that greatly) or by groupdecision, you may wish 
to
vote to chip in and have me cater the food,since my meals are as good as my
detailing skills. Dinneralfresco..........under the Stars, around the 
Stars.I am
willing to do the planning with Markus and another 126 friend whowants to
help.........but we need YOU to have some fun. Send me yourideas, dates,
preferences, etc. so we may begin planning a really fundate in the near 
future.
Any in question, please ask Markus, Dick,Chet, or Matt what they remember 
from
our last blast.......I rememberthe Homemade 040
Cupcakes!!!!Cheers,Ellen (Legs) Star Cruiser.The MB Coupes Website!W126 SEC
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:28:14 +1100
From: "Mark Addison" <mark at upwey.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Timber replacement shifter piece.
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Thanks Axel and Hirsch,

My first stop was my local MB guys who were not able to assist, my piece is
actually cracked so refurbishment is not an option.

I will try my office in South Africa (they seem to have quite a collection
there of MB parts).

If successful I will report back.

Regards to all,

Mark 

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:29:56 +1100
From: "Ian Gatenby" <igatenby at optushome.com.au>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Gearbox wiring help really, really needed
    please!
To: "'Vance Rowley'" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>,  "'Mercedes Coupes
    Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Yes Vance - that's the one ..  Any idea what it does?

 

Malcolm - thanks - I'll try the IT upgrade tips

 

Ian

 

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 I am afraid I can't be of help directly, but if I am not mistaken, I think
I have come across something about this in the mbcoupes archives somewhere.
I know I shouldn't really place any attachments, but it is very small. Would
this be the 5th pin you are talking about by any chance?

 

 

 

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:19:58 +1100
From: "Ian Gatenby" <igatenby at optushome.com.au>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Gearbox wiring help really, really needed
    please!
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <200602011219.k11CJrY5000945 at mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au>
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Thanks guys - that's great - along with Vance's and Malcolm's comments - it
looks like I can get the old CDs working without dragging an old PC back
into the house. 

Just as a matter of interest - I switched to individual mail list downloads
rather than the daily digest and these two responses (and only these two)
went to that place that I don't check (you know - where my multiple millions
of dollars worth of lottery wins go every day).  Blowed if I can figure out
how some of these PC rules work!

Thanks again for the help.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Sharan Bains
Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2006 11:30 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Gearbox wiring help really, really needed please!

Since you are using the 500 ignition and fuel systems, the early 500 EZL 
won't have that functionality for the transmission quickshift will it?

Also, you'll have a hole on the bell housing for the CPS - may need to block

that off as the early 500 ignition system does not have that there.


talbir




>From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
>Reply-To: satish at tummala.net,Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
><mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Gearbox wiring help really, really needed please!
>Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:08:06 -0500 (EST)
>
>Ok, here goes...
>
>1.  The fifth wire is for the first gear start module that is activated
>when the neutral safety switch gear position "3" or "2".  Therefore,
>transfer over the neutral safety switch from your 500 transmission to the
>560.
>
>2.  The two pole connector probably goes to the overload switch on the
>side of the transmission of the 560.  This harness has two poles, one to
>ground and the goes to the EZL ignition control unit.  It retards ignition
>timing for 400 milliseconds or so at redline for a faster shift when
>driving spiritedly.  Therefore, transfer over that switch from your 560
>box.
>
>See ya,
>
>Satish
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>



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:14:26 -0500
From: "Montgomery, Richard \"Rick\"" <rick.montgomery at slugger.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Need Front End Bra
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Can anyone suggest a good place to pickup a nice Front End Bra for my 560?
If you have one I might be interested as well.  (Must be Pristine)

***Resonable***

Please email me at both
rm90 at verizon.net
rick.montgomery at slugger.com


Thanks
Rick Montgomery
California
 
 
 
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:29:46 -0800
From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Euro Exhaust For Sale
To: <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
Cc: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <20060201153105.3CACE4C225 at mailwash11.pair.com>
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Marcus,

Your iwon address bounced me. 

 

Later,

Mike R.

(702) 494-8056

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From: Markus Meyer [mailto:mfmeyer at iwon.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:05 AM
To: mramay at att.biz
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Euro Exhaust For Sale

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:17:20 -0800
From: <drmet at pacbell.net>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] RE: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 15, Issue 12
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <001401c6274a$fa882f50$640fa8c0 at Docs>
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Members,

I am not a computer genius nor am I willing to work towards becoming one
however I have written a couple of emails about selling a couple of my SEC's
(2-white, 2-black) and have merely had a single response.

Should any one be interested in one of them please email me at
drmet at pacbell.net or better yet call me at 714-546-1403, 714-465-3348 or my
cell at 714-742-0605.  With the price of the body parts going to the moon, a
solid no BS car that is worthy of a true SEC addicts attention is easily
worth more than the current cost of the hood, fenders, grill, front lights,
bumper, radiator, fans etc. in raw unpainted condition.  If you are
interested let me know.

I have also asked why we (as current subscribers) cannot get our cars on the
web site.
I know it is egotistical but heck why do we own them except for others to
appreciate.

Let me know about getting my cars on the web site.

Doc 









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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:35:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Kweku Biney -Assan <cyne_2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Re: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Message-ID: <20060201163508.74230.qmail at web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Midwesterners ! Any W126 retreats for 2006? C'mon. we dont have to be that dull 
you know

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Today's Topics:

1. Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY (Vance Rowley)
2. RE: Delaware Valley Spring Coupefest (Axel Wulff)
3. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Mike R.)
4. Leakage (Steve Ferngren)
5. Re: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (dolans1 at verizon.net)
6. Re: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (dolans1 at verizon.net)
7. Re: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY (pdweiss at comcast.net)
8. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Mister McGoo)
9. Engine to Chassis compatibility question (Dick Spellman)
10. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Axel Wulff)
11. Re: SL65 AMG in the house! (Sharan Bains)
12. RE: Engine to Chassis compatibility question (Sharan Bains)
13. Stereo upgrade (Rattie S)
14. Re: Re: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY (dolans1 at verizon.net)
15. Re: Engine to Chassis compatibility question (Dick Spellman)
16. Re: Engine to Chassis compatibility question
(mattpetersen at ihug.co.nz)
17. Re: Engine to Chassis compatibility question (David Fatovic)
18. Re: SL65 AMG in the house! (David Fatovic)
19. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Mike R.)
20. Timber replacement shifter piece. (Mark Addison)
21. RE: Timber replacement shifter piece. (Shayegan, Richard)
22. Re: Stereo upgrade (Vance Rowley)
23. Re: Stereo upgrade (Vance Rowley)
24. RE: Stereo upgrade (Shayegan, Richard)
25. Re: RE: [W126 Coupe] Stereo upgrade (dolans1 at verizon.net)
26. Stereo Upgrade (Rattie S)
27. Re: Stereo Upgrade (Vance Rowley)
28. RE: RE: [W126 Coupe] Stereo upgrade (Shayegan, Richard)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:09:55 -0000
From: "Vance Rowley" 
Subject: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY
To: 
Message-ID: <008401c625bf$ff29f980$262a6858 at home>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Hi Peter,

With you living in Sarasota, I don't know if you would have the full advantage 
of using the Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40. In fact there is a whole debate in the 
mbcoupes archives on using fully synthetic or not on the W126. I can only go off 
what I have read up myself and my own experience using fully synthetic. The only 
downside I can see is that it is very expensive. However from my own experience 
and my way of thinking is if the viscosity is lower on start-up, then the oil 
pressure would build up a lot faster protecting the engine sooner. Also, I can't 
say for certain, but I could swear that I have a few more HP than I did before I 
started using fully synthetic. Thanks for the compliment though.

Cheers,
Vance.
1991 Euro 560 SEC.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: pdweiss at comcast.net 
To: Vance Rowley ; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY


Dear Vance: I own an 89 560 sec, 113k miles, and a 91 560 sec, 34k. Both cars 
had service records indicating they used 10w-30 castrol. I have been using 
synthetic in my street machines for years. However, I have not changed the 126's 
over. Sounds like you know your lubricants. What do you think about changing to 
the Shell Helix? I live in Sarasota. Thanks for your advice. Peter Weiss

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From: "Vance Rowley" 

Mike,
Engine lubricants have advanced and improved in performance a great deal since 
the owners manuals for these cars were written up.One of the best lubricants I 
have come accross and used for years in my Euro 560SEC is the Shell Helix Ultra 
5W-40 fully synthetic lubricant. This particular one exceeds the requirements of 
most cars these days. Also this particular one is approved by Mercedes Benz 
themselves as well as Peugeot-Citroen, Rover Group, VW/Audi, BMW, Porsche and 
Ferrari.

Vance
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:50:12 -0500
From: "Axel Wulff" 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Delaware Valley Spring Coupefest
To: , "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"

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Markus,



Sounds like great fun.



I will certainly do my best to make it.



Cheers,

Axel



-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Markus Meyer
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:19 AM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Delaware Valley Spring Coupefest




Hi gang,

Speaking of Coupefests and get togethers, for those of you in the
mid-Atlantic area, and others interested in joining us, Ellen (aka Legs)
will be organizing a get-together probably in the mid May timeframe. Just a
heads up to tentatively mark your calendars, more details to follow. Basic
idea will be to have a road rallye where we answer questions (and watch Dick
spill coffee on himself again and others miss questions totally because they
don't realize its a "test"), then have some sort of food/drink-fest
afterwards. Like I said, much more details to follow - just putting the idea
out there.

Cheers,
Markus





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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:54:09 -0800
From: "Mike R." 
Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
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The fan clutch took me ten minutes to R&R. Sounds like it's a difficult
thing for the water pump though. If the harmonic balancer has to come off,
then it sounds like the radiator has to come out too. No fun here.

Later,
Mike R.
(702) 494-8056

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:35 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak

You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, it's
not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to do
it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
better to let him do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
same time.
Richard 




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:03:03 -0500
From: "Steve Ferngren" 
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Leakage
To: 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Right side backseat floor in my 1990 560 Sec. I m thinking the backseat
window or the Moonroof is not shutting completely or the door is leaking. I
think the manual talks about drainage tubes. What's the best way to start
testing where the leak is coming from.
Thanks, Steve



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:24:49 -0600 (CST)
From: 
Subject: Re: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
Message-ID:
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Just like my 68 gto, blue chip pump, no problems...sec is another deal.


>From: J Hirsch 
>Date: Mon Jan 30 10:04:06 CST 2006
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak

>Just changed water pump on my 1963 Pontiac Tempest
>Pump $33
>Four bolts for fan and four bolts for pump
>Total time start to finish....one hour
>That is engineering!
>Jay H
>On Jan 30, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Shayegan, Richard wrote:
>
>> You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
>> it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, 
>> it's
>> not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
>> it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to 
>> do
>> it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
>> better to let him do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
>> receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
>> want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
>> same time.
>> Richard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:24 AM
>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>> Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
>>
>> I was afraid of this. I've heard that the pumps are expensive and it's 
>> a
>> pain to put them in.
>>
>> Found the pump for around $160. Does the Harmonic Balancer really have
>> to come off? :-(
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of dolans1 at verizon.net
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:24 PM
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>> Subject: Re: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
>>
>> That's how the water pump starts leaking. Leaks then stops, then it
>> starts the grinding noise. The weep hole is a waste of time looking at,
>> due to none will be apparent. Mine stopped for about three months. Then
>> turned into a water fall. Same deal front passenger side drip... time 
>> to
>> pull the dist.
>> and harmonic balancer.
>> Not a fun job.
>>
>>
>> The MB Coupes Website!
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:30:06 -0600 (CST)
From: 
Subject: Re: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
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Mike,

My mb mechanic told me $250.00 was as cheap as he would go, it's a royal pain in 
the posterior. While your in there the short hose and thermostat and gaskets as 
well. My old gto was easy, this is a nasty job.. good luck.

Mike.

>From: "Mike R." 
>Date: Mon Jan 30 11:54:09 CST 2006
>To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' 
>Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak

>The fan clutch took me ten minutes to R&R. Sounds like it's a difficult
>thing for the water pump though. If the harmonic balancer has to come off,
>then it sounds like the radiator has to come out too. No fun here.
>
>Later,
>Mike R.
>(702) 494-8056
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:35 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
>
>You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
>it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, it's
>not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
>it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to do
>it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
>better to let him do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
>receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
>want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
>same time.
>Richard 
>
>
>The MB Coupes Website!
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>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:35:06 +0000
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Subject: Re: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:14:27 +0000
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:26:45 -0500
From: Dick Spellman 
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Engine to Chassis compatibility question
To: "mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com" 
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Will a 500 Euro motor and tranny from a 500SEL fit into the SEC chassis 
with oil sump, engine mounts and transmission mount all needing to be 
the same configuration??? Or was there a different set-up employed on 
the wider, longer SEL chassis than that of the SEC. My SEC is an 83 and 
I believe the donor SEL is an 84 or 85.

Any comments will be much appreciated.

Regards,

Dick


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:38:40 -0500
From: "Axel Wulff" 
Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
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Bellamy,

"A good rule of thumb is a water pump should never cost more than half the
market value of your car. So while a Pontiac water pump may just cost $33.,
it is really touch-and-go if it is worth doing."

Harsh comment, though for the majority of Pontiacs it is probably correct.

Cheers,

Axel







-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Mister McGoo
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:14 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak



The shop rate for the water pump is around 4 - 4= hours. If there is the
slightest doubt about the front engine seal, go the extra, remove the
balancer and replace the seal. This is NOT a backyard-on-the-ramps type of
job. For one thing, the water pump bolts are a bitch to get. The water
pump should be about $140. (considerably more at M-B!) Change the
thermostat and housing hose as well as the lower rad hose while you're at
it, even if they look OK. They must come off anyway and they are less than
$20.

A good rule of thumb is a water pump should never cost more than half the
market value of your car. So while a Pontiac water pump may just cost $33.,
it is really touch-and-go if it is worth doing.

-Bellamy






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From: "Mike R." 
Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:54:09 -0800
>The fan clutch took me ten minutes to R&R. Sounds like it's a difficult
>thing for the water pump though. If the harmonic balancer has to come off,
>then it sounds like the radiator has to come out too. No fun here.
>
>Later,
>Mike R.
>(702) 494-8056
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:35 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
>
>You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
>it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, it's
>not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
>it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to do
>it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
>better to let him do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
>receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
>want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
>same time.
>Richard
>
>
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:46:45 +0000
From: "Sharan Bains" 
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] SL65 AMG in the house!
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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That Bugatti Veyron was out of this world - as luxurious as a Maybach, and 
1000 bhp !! THE mos sensational car ever !

What I'd like to see Top Gear review is the most charasmatic and fastest MB 
in the current production line up....the CLK DTM...what a SENSATIONAL car !


talbir



>From: "Vance Rowley" 
>Reply-To: Vance Rowley ,Mercedes Coupes Mailing 
>Lists 
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" 
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] SL65 AMG in the house!
>Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:11:14 -0000
>
>Yes, I guess you could be correct on that one.
>
>Vance.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sharan Bains" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:33 AM
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] SL65 AMG in the house!
>
>
> > Doubt the Top Gear team would be interested in an SL65 AMG - they were 
>test
> > driving the 1000 bhp Bugatti two weeks ago...nothing really compares !
> >
> >
> > talbir
> >
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:49:20 +0000
From: "Sharan Bains" 
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Engine to Chassis compatibility question
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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All the same as far as I know - same mounting points for engine and 
transmission.

Just a longer driveshaft on the SEL.


talbir


>From: Dick Spellman 
>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
>To: "mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com" 
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Engine to Chassis compatibility question
>Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:26:45 -0500
>
>Will a 500 Euro motor and tranny from a 500SEL fit into the SEC chassis 
>with oil sump, engine mounts and transmission mount all needing to be the 
>same configuration??? Or was there a different set-up employed on the 

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:41:07 -0600
From: <airedale at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Re: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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I am here in Kansas City and would be up for it.
John
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kweku Biney -Assan 
  To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:35 AM
  Subject: [W126 Coupe] Re: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 15, Issue 17


  Midwesterners ! Any W126 retreats for 2006? C'mon. we dont have to be that 
dull you know

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    Today's Topics:

    1. Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY (Vance Rowley)
    2. RE: Delaware Valley Spring Coupefest (Axel Wulff)
    3. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Mike R.)
    4. Leakage (Steve Ferngren)
    5. Re: Re: [W 126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (dolans1 at verizon.net)
    6. Re: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (dolans1 at verizon.net)
    7. Re: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY (pdweiss at comcast.net)
    8. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Mister McGoo)
    9. Engine to Chassis compatibility question (Dick Spellman)
    10. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Axel Wulff)
    11. Re: SL65 AMG in the house! (Sharan Bains)
    12. RE: Engine to Chassis compatibility question (Sharan Bains)
    13. Stereo upgrade (Rattie S)
    14. Re: Re: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY (dolans1 at verizon.net)
    15. Re: Engine to Chassis compatibility question (Dick Spellman)
    16. Re: Engine to Chassis compatibility question
    (mattpetersen at ihug.co.nz)
    17. Re: Engine to Chassis compatibility question (David Fatovic)
    18. Re: SL65 AMG in the house! (David Fatovic)
    19. RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak (Mike R.)
    20. Timber replacement shifter piece. (Mark Addison)
    21. RE: Timber replacement shifter piece. (Shayegan, Richard)
    22. Re: Stereo upgrade (Vance Rowley)
    23. Re: Stereo upgrade (Vance Rowley)
    24. RE: Stereo upgrade (Shayegan, Richard)
    25. Re: RE: [W126 Coupe] Stereo upgrade (dolans1 at verizon.net)
    26. Stereo Upgrade (Rattie S)
    27. Re: Stereo Upgrade (Vance Rowley)
    28. RE: RE: [W126 Coupe] Stereo upgrade (Shayegan, Richard)


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    Message: 1
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:09:55 -0000
    From: "Vance Rowley" 
    Subject: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY
    To: 
    Message-ID: <008401c625bf$ff29f980$262a6858 at home>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


    Hi Peter,

    With you living in Sarasota, I don't know if you would have the full 
advantage of using the Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40. In fact there is a whole debate 
in the mbcoupes archives on using fully synthetic or not on the W126. I can only 
go off what I h ave read up myself and my own experience using fully synthetic. 
The only downside I can see is that it is very expensive. However from my own 
experience and my way of thinking is if the viscosity is lower on start-up, then 
the oil pressure would build up a lot faster protecting the engine sooner. Also, 
I can't say for certain, but I could swear that I have a few more HP than I did 
before I started using fully synthetic. Thanks for the compliment though.

    Cheers,
    Vance.
    1991 Euro 560 SEC.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: pdweiss at comcast.net 
    To: Vance Rowley ; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
    Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:43 PM
    Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY


    Dear Vance: I own an 89 560 sec, 113k miles, and a 91 560 sec, 34k. Both 
cars had service records indicating they used 10w-30 castrol. I have been using 
synthetic in my street machines for years. However, I have not changed the 126's 
over. Sounds like you know your lubricants. Wha t do you think about changing to 
the Shell Helix? I live in Sarasota. Thanks for your advice. Peter Weiss

    -------------- Original message -------------- 
    From: "Vance Rowley" 

    Mike,
    Engine lubricants have advanced and improved in performance a great deal 
since the owners manuals for these cars were written up.One of the best 
lubricants I have come accross and used for years in my Euro 560SEC is the Shell 
Helix Ultra 5W-40 fully synthetic lubricant. This particular one exceeds the 
requirements of most cars these days. Also this particular one is approved by 
Mercedes Benz themselves as well as Peugeot-Citroen, Rover Group, VW/Audi, BMW, 
Porsche and Ferrari.

    Vance
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    Message: 2
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:50:12 -0500
    From: "Axel Wulff" 
    Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Delaware Valley Spring Coupefest
    To: , "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'"

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    Markus,



    Sounds like great fun.



    I will certainly do my best to make it.



    Cheers,

    Axel



    -----Original Message-----
    From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
    On Behalf Of Markus Meyer
    Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:19 AM
    To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
    Subject: [W126 Coupe] Delaware Valley Spring Coupefest




    Hi gang,

    Speaking of Coupefests and get togethers, for those of you in the
    mid-Atlantic area, and others interested in joining us, Ellen (aka Legs)
    will be organizing a get-together probably in the mid May timeframe. Just a
    heads up to tentatively mark your calendars, more details to follow. Basic
    idea will be to have a road rallye where we answer questions (and watch Dick
    spill coffee on himself again and others miss questions totally because they
    don't realize its a "test"), then have some sort of food/drink-fest
    afterwards. Like I said, much more details to follow - just putting the idea
    out there.

    Cheers,
    Markus





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    Message: 3
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:54:09 -0800
    From: "Mike R." 
    Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
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    The fan clutch took me ten minutes to R&R. Sounds like it's a difficult
    thing for the water pump though. If the harmonic balancer has to come off,
    then it sounds like the radiator has to come out too. No fun here.

    Later,
    Mike R.
    (702) 494-8056

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
    On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
    Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:35 AM
    To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
    Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak

    You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
    it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, it's
    not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
    it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to do
    it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
    better to let him do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
    receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
    want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
    same time.
    Richard 




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    Message: 4
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:03:03 -0500
    From: "Steve Ferngren" 
    Subject: [W126 Coupe] Leakage
    To: 
    Message-ID: 
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

    Right side backseat floor in my 1990 560 Sec. I m thinking the backseat
    window or the Moonroof is not shutting completely or the door is leaking. I
    think the manual talks about drainage tubes. What's the best way to start
    testing where the leak is coming from.
    Thanks, Steve



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    Message: 5
    Date: Mon, 3 0 Jan 2006 13:24:49 -0600 (CST)
    From: 
    Subject: Re: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
    Message-ID:
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    Just like my 68 gto, blue chip pump, no problems...sec is another deal.


    >From: J Hirsch 
    >Date: Mon Jan 30 10:04:06 CST 2006
    >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
    >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak

    >Just changed water pump on my 1963 Pontiac Tempest
    >Pump $33
    >Four bolts for fan and four bolts for pump
    >Total time start to finish....one hour
    >That is engineering!
    >Jay H
    >On Jan 30, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Shayegan, Richard wrote:
    >
    >> You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
    >> it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, 
    >> it's
    >> not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
    >> it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to 
    >> do
    >> it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
    >> better to let him do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
    >> receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
    >> want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
    >> same time.
    >> Richard
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
    >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
    >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:24 AM
    >> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
    >> Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    >>
    >> I was afraid of this. I've heard that the pu mps are expensive and it's 
    >> a
    >> pain to put them in.
    >>
    >> Found the pump for around $160. Does the Harmonic Balancer really have
    >> to come off? :-(
    >>
    >> Later,
    >> Mike R.
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
    >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
    >> On Behalf Of dolans1 at verizon.net
    >> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:24 PM
    >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
    >> Subject: Re: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    >>
    >> That's how the water pump starts leaking. Leaks then stops, then it
    >> starts the grinding noise. The weep hole is a waste of time looking at,
    >> due to none will be apparent. Mine stopped for about three months. Then
    >> turned into a water fall. Same deal front passenger side drip... time 
    >> to
    >> pull the dist.
    >> and harmonic balancer.
    >> Not a fun job.
    >>
    >>
    >> The MB Coupes Website!
    >> W126 SEC Mailing List
    >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
    >> The MB Coupes Website!
    >> W126 SEC Mailing List
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    >
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    Message: 6
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:30:06 -0600 (CST)
    From: 
    Subject: Re: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
    Message-ID:
    <21127618.1138649406590.JavaMail.root at vms069.mailsrvcs.net>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

    Mike,

    My mb mechanic told me $250.00 was as cheap as he would go, it's a royal 
pain in the posterior. While your in there the short hose and the rmostat and 
gaskets as well. My old gto was easy, this is a nasty job.. good luck.

    Mike.

    >From: "Mike R." 
    >Date: Mon Jan 30 11:54:09 CST 2006
    >To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' 
    >Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak

    >The fan clutch took me ten minutes to R&R. Sounds like it's a difficult
    >thing for the water pump though. If the harmonic balancer has to come off,
    >then it sounds like the radiator has to come out too. No fun here.
    >
    >Later,
    >Mike R.
    >(702) 494-8056
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
    >On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
    >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:35 AM
    >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
    >Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    >
    >You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
    >it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, it's
    >not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
    >it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to do
    >it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
    >better to let him do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
    >receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
    >want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
    >same time.
    >Richard 
    >
    >
    >The MB Coupes Website!
    >W126 SEC Mailing List
    >Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.



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    Message: 7
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:35:06 +0000
    From: pdweiss at comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Fw: [W126 Coupe] OIL VISCOSITY
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    Message: 8
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:14:27 +0000
    From: "Mister McGoo" 
    Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
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    Message: 9
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:26:45 -0500
    From: Dick Spellman 
    Subject: [W126 Coupe] Engine to Chassis compatibility question
    To: "mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com" 
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    Will a 500 Euro motor and tranny from a 500SEL fit into the SEC chassis 
    with oil sump, engine mounts and transmission mount all needing to be 
    the same configuration??? Or was there a different set-up employed on 
    the wider, longer SEL chassis than that of the SEC. My SEC is an 83 and 
    I believe the donor SEL is an 84 or 85.

    Any comments will be much appreciated.

    Regards,

    Dick


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    Message: 10
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:38:40 -0500
    From: "Axel Wulff" 
    Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
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    Bellamy,

    "A good rule of thumb is a water pump should never cost more than half the
    market value of your car. So while a Pontiac water pump may just cost $33.,
    it is really touch-and-go if it is worth doing."

    Harsh comment, though for the majority of Pontiacs it is probably correct.

    Cheers,

    Axel







    -----Original Message-----
    From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
    On Behalf Of Mister McGoo
    Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:14 PM
    To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
    Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak



    The shop rate for the water pump is around 4 - 4= hours. If there is the
    slig htest doubt about the front engine seal, go the extra, remove the
    balancer and replace the seal. This is NOT a backyard-on-the-ramps type of
    job. For one thing, the water pump bolts are a bitch to get. The water
    pump should be about $140. (considerably more at M-B!) Change the
    thermostat and housing hose as well as the lower rad hose while you're at
    it, even if they look OK. They must come off anyway and they are less than
    $20.

    A good rule of thumb is a water pump should never cost more than half the
    market value of your car. So while a Pontiac water pump may just cost $33.,
    it is really touch-and-go if it is worth doing.

    -Bellamy






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    From: "Mike R." 
    Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
    To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" 
    Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:54:09 -0800
    >The fan clutch took me ten minutes to R&R. Sounds like it's a difficult
    >thing for the water pump though. If the harmonic balancer has to come off,
    >then it sounds like the radiator has to come out too. No fun here.
    >
    >Later,
    >Mike R.
    >(702) 494-8056
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
    >On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
    >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:35 AM
    >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
    >Subject: RE: Re: [W126 Coupe] Coolant Leak
    >
    >You might want to check with your mechanic what they would charge to do
    >it (i.e. it might be cheaper than you think). From what he told me, it's
    >not hard, but tedious, and involves everything the service manuals say
    >it does. I looked at it, considered what a PITA it would be for me to do
    >it, especially considering it was (and is) winter, and it was just
    >better to let hi m do it for a few hundred bucks (I don't have my
    >receipts with me but I think it was like $300-400 in labor). You might
    >want to check the fan clutch while you're there and replace that at the
    >same time.
    >Richard
    >
    >
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    Message: 11
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:46:45 +0000
    From: "Sharan Bains" 
    Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] SL65 AMG in the house!
    To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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    That Bugatti Veyron was out of this world - as luxurious as a Maybach, and 
    1000 bhp !! THE mos sens ational car ever !

    What I'd like to see Top Gear review is the most charasmatic and fastest MB 
    in the current production line up....the CLK DTM...what a SENSATIONAL car !


    talbir



    >From: "Vance Rowley" 
    >Reply-To: Vance Rowley ,Mercedes Coupes Mailing 
    >Lists 
    >To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" 
    >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] SL65 AMG in the house!
    >Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:11:14 -0000
    >
    >Yes, I guess you could be correct on that one.
    >
    >Vance.
    >
    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "Sharan Bains" 
    >To: 
    >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:33 AM
    >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] SL65 AMG in the house!
    >
    >
    > > Doubt the Top Gear team would be interested in an SL65 AMG - they were 
    >test
    > > driving the 1000 bhp Bugatti two weeks ago...nothing really compares !
    > >
    > >
    > > talbir
    > >
    >
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    Message: 12
    Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:49:20 +0000
    From: "Sharan Bains" 
    Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Engine to Chassis compatibility question
    To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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    All the same as far as I know - same mounting points for engine and 
    transmission.

    Just a longer driveshaft on the SEL.


    talbir


    >From: Dick Spellman 
    >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
    >To: "mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com" 
    >Subject: [W126 Coupe] Engin e to Chassis compatibility question
    >Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:26:45 -0500
    >
    >Will a 500 Euro motor and tranny from a 500SEL fit into the SEC chassis 
    >with oil sump, engine mounts and transmission mount all needing to be the 
    >same configuration??? Or was there a different set-up employed on the 

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:11:00 -0500
From: skorupa at aol.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Re: wood trim
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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 The wood trim from any 126 fits and there are plenty availble from local 
salvage yards, just insure that you know how to remove it (by taking out change 
holder in front and sliding) first so that you don't break the clips.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:15:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Jay Hirsch <j.hirsch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Need Front End Bra
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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have you tried Victoria's Secret?

--- "Montgomery, Richard \"Rick\""
<rick.montgomery at slugger.com> wrote:

> 
> Can anyone suggest a good place to pickup a nice
> Front End Bra for my 560?
> If you have one I might be interested as well. 
> (Must be Pristine)
> 
> ***Resonable***
> 
> Please email me at both
> rm90 at verizon.net
> rick.montgomery at slugger.com
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Rick Montgomery
> California
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:12:30 -0700
From: "clay" <benzman3 at cox.net>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] HYDO LEAK
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <002601c6275b$111eb490$c6d86844 at clayton>
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HAS A LEAK IN THE COPPER SEALING WASHERS ON THE PRESSURE SIDE CONNECTION TO THE 
HYRO PUMP FOR THE SUSPENSION EVEN BEEN A PROBLEM ?
REGARDS, benzman3 at cox.net / clay
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:27:05 -0500
From: Malcolm Lee <malcolm369 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Need Front End Bra
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi Rick,

RE: Can anyone suggest a good place to pickup a nice Front End Bra for my
560? 
If you have one I might be interested as well.  (Must be Pristine)

***Reasonable*** 

AutoAnything has Oem. I¹ve dealt with them several times for car covers etc.
Good to deal with, good quality reasonable pricing to!!

http://www.autoanything.com/products/product_gn.aspx?p_id=1001

Cheers,   Malcolm
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