[W126 Coupe] RE: VALID CAR FAX
bruce tranter
cousinbruce at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 31 16:08:48 EDT 2006
Hi All
Would anyone with an active CAFAX, please run this for me.
It is a 1991 560SEL
VIN WDBCA39E2MA560398
If you can would you send the report to cousinbruce at hotmail.com?
Thanks
Bruce
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> 1. Re: 1985 euro version 500sec (WRick11499 at aol.com)
> 2. Re: 1985 euro version 500sec (Dick Spellman)
> 3. RE: Rear diff? (Barry Corno)
> 4. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Barry Corno)
> 5. RE: Rear diff? (Mike R.)
> 6. RE: Rear diff? (Shayegan, Richard)
> 7. RE: Rear diff? (Barry Corno)
> 8. RE: Rear diff? (David G. Cole)
> 9. Re: Rear diff? (Jonathan Hodgman)
> 10. RE: Rear diff? (Shayegan, Richard)
> 11. RE: Rear diff? (Shayegan, Richard)
> 12. RE: Rear diff? (Eddie)
> 13. Re: Rear diff? (Satish Tummala)
> 14. Re: Rear diff? (Bruce Mendel)
> 15. RE: Rear diff? (Shayegan, Richard)
> 16. Visors (Russ Farrar)
> 17. RE: Visors (Shayegan, Richard)
> 18. RE: Rear diff? (Shayegan, Richard)
> 19. Re: Door Lock Change (jflyer2 at aim.com)
> 20. RE: Rear diff? (David G. Cole)
> 21. Hesitation on Start (Kirby, Alan (MED US))
> 22. RE: Rear diff? (Shayegan, Richard)
> 23. Re: Hesitation on Start (Dick Spellman)
> 24. Replacement diffs -- SECs (Gerry Van Zandt)
> 25. Re: Hatch and Sons is back !! (Gerry Van Zandt)
> 26. Re: Visors (jralex at ix.netcom.com)
> 27. Re: Hesitation on Start (Gary Peck)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:08:25 EDT
>From: WRick11499 at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 euro version 500sec
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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>Help
>I have a 1985 500 SEC Its giving me problems and am not driving now.
>It has an idling problem,somestimes the idle would go to to 1900 RPM after
>a
>while it would return to normal, I could still drive like this.
>Now while I am driving the motor stops running,can restart but after
>stopping on me a couple of times it was hard to start. Afraid it will not
>start
>Its a beautifull car but thinging about saleing
>thanks for any reply Rick
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>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:47:12 -0400
>From: Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] 1985 euro version 500sec
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>Rick:
>
>It's likely the idle control module up about center on the firewall has
>failed. You can get a rebuilt unit from www.benzstore.com for $150 or
>so. Could also be a dirty air slider valve or loose fitting hoses to
>the valve. Check the archives for 'high idle' and you'll see a volume
>of information.
>
>Dick
>
>WRick11499 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Help
> > I have a 1985 500 SEC Its giving me problems and am not driving now.
> > It has an idling problem,somestimes the idle would go to to 1900 RPM
> > after a while it would return to normal, I could still drive like this.
> > Now while I am driving the motor stops running,can restart but after
> > stopping on me a couple of times it was hard to start. Afraid it will
> > not start
> > Its a beautifull car but thinging about saleing
> > thanks for any reply Rick
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:14:29 -0700
>From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>Hey Ramay,
> Can you help on this question?
>B.C.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
>see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
>that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
>Thank you,
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
>and
>Bolt it right end. Easy deal
>B.C.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:19:20 -0700
>From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>Richard,
> You need to talk to Daryl himself. He is in the process
>Of moving his business and might be busy for awhile.
> B.C.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:59 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>
>Do you know who it is over there who worked on this for you? I e-mailed
>them, and Victor said the only pre-existing kit they have is a 12.2 inch
>(I mentioned 17 inch wheels). He said a larger rotor would have to be
>custom.
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:44 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>
>
>Richard,
> "13" I have 17" wheels
>B.C.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:06 PM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>
>Barry, are those 13" rotors or 12.2" rotors? Anyone know what the stock
>brake size is? (I don't have my book manuals with me and for some reason
>the CD manual is missing all of the info on replacing brake rotors/pads)
>Richard
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:36:00 -0700
>From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <20060830153611.41BB312034E at mailwash11.pair.com>
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>
>I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
>
>The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into has ABS
>and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer - if your car
>has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or your ABS won't
>work.
>
>
>Later,
>Mike R.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>Hey Ramay,
> Can you help on this question?
>B.C.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
>see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
>that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
>Thank you,
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
>and
>Bolt it right end. Easy deal
>B.C.
>The MB Coupes Website!
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:41:22 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> <245060D7FF2C0B48BF8080FF20241C0201FFEF2A at SWEETIRMA.davidson.edu>
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>Fun...mine is an 85, with ABS, so even if a 450 diff will just bolt in,
>this won't be an easy find since it didn't start being an option until
>1978 IIRC.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:36 AM
>To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
>
>The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into has
>ABS and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer - if
>your car has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or your
>ABS won't work.
>
>
>Later,
>Mike R.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>Hey Ramay,
> Can you help on this question?
>B.C.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
>see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
>that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
>Thank you,
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
>and
>Bolt it right end. Easy deal
>B.C.
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
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>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:49:03 -0700
>From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID:
> <0D978735FD9EA64C964ACF5D46A563D898C774 at SARATOGA.pdx.spada.com>
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>
>Richard,
> The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter
>B.C.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
>To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
>
>The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into has
>ABS
>and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer - if your
>car
>has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or your ABS won't
>work.
>
>
>Later,
>Mike R.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>Hey Ramay,
> Can you help on this question?
>B.C.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
>see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
>that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
>Thank you,
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
>and
>Bolt it right end. Easy deal
>B.C.
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:57:54 -0600 (MDT)
>From: "David G. Cole" <dc at dc-mc.com>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <64649.200.41.67.10.1156953474.squirrel at webmail.oplnk.net>
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>
>NOW this conversation is going to get interesting for Richard....
>
>dave
>w/ 3.07 Gleason diff setting in Stu's old shop
>
>
>
>
> > Richard,
> > The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter
> > B.C.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
> > To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
> >
> > The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into has
> > ABS
> > and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer - if your
> > car
> > has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or your ABS won't
> > work.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> > Mike R.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Hey Ramay,
> > Can you help on this question?
> > B.C.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
> > see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
> > that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
> > Thank you,
> > Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
> > and
> > Bolt it right end. Easy deal
> > B.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:53:27 -0400
>From: "Jonathan Hodgman" <jhodgman at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> <1d2f90170608300853q4f73e897ye2e2412c7978c4b9 at mail.gmail.com>
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>You should be able to find a Euro SL 3.07 diff w/ the ABS ring you need.
>
>Jonathan
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>
>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:01:44 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID:
> <245060D7FF2C0B48BF8080FF20241C0201FFEF33 at SWEETIRMA.davidson.edu>
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>
>David, talk to me, rishayegan at davidson.edu
>What do you know about this diff? It would make it interesting if it
>weren't too expensive, but I can't afford to put thousands towards a
>diff with everything else that I'm doing.
>
>BTW, Eddie, on the Quaife. They said a one off would cost $6500 (yes,
>just one, and brand new, and only $1500 more than a used AMG) and a
>batch of 30 would cost between $1200-2000, depending on the diff.
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of David G. Cole
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:58 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>NOW this conversation is going to get interesting for Richard....
>
>dave
>w/ 3.07 Gleason diff setting in Stu's old shop
>
>
>
>
> > Richard,
> > The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter B.C.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
> > To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
> >
> > The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into
> > has ABS and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer
> > - if your car has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or
> > your ABS won't work.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> > Mike R.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Hey Ramay,
> > Can you help on this question?
> > B.C.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
> > see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
> > that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
> > Thank you,
> > Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
> > and
> > Bolt it right end. Easy deal
> > B.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
>
>
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:03:08 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID:
> <245060D7FF2C0B48BF8080FF20241C0201FFEF34 at SWEETIRMA.davidson.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Are you sure they'll match? PG Auto says no.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hodgman
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:53 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>You should be able to find a Euro SL 3.07 diff w/ the ABS ring you need.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:09:15 -0700
>From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV58E2D4AF8789BAB8AC4BDBD3E0 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>See? That's why everyone is looking to build their own, or buy the AMG
>units. Afterall Renntech ONLY WANTS $4000 to fix my old 3.27 GT...
>
>And good luck getting 30 units paid for....
>
>Eddie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:02 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>David, talk to me, rishayegan at davidson.edu
>What do you know about this diff? It would make it interesting if it
>weren't too expensive, but I can't afford to put thousands towards a
>diff with everything else that I'm doing.
>
>BTW, Eddie, on the Quaife. They said a one off would cost $6500 (yes,
>just one, and brand new, and only $1500 more than a used AMG) and a
>batch of 30 would cost between $1200-2000, depending on the diff.
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of David G. Cole
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:58 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>NOW this conversation is going to get interesting for Richard....
>
>dave
>w/ 3.07 Gleason diff setting in Stu's old shop
>
>
>
>
> > Richard,
> > The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter B.C.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
> > To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
> >
> > The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into
> > has ABS and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer
> > - if your car has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or
> > your ABS won't work.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> > Mike R.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Hey Ramay,
> > Can you help on this question?
> > B.C.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
> > see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
> > that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
> > Thank you,
> > Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
> > and
> > Bolt it right end. Easy deal
> > B.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
>
>
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>The MB Coupes Website!
>W126 SEC Mailing List
>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 13
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:11:45 -0400
>From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <001801c6cc57$5f8c7760$6401a8c0 at salescounter>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Well said Eddie....You won't even get 5 units paid for....
>
>Satish
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:09 PM
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>
> > See? That's why everyone is looking to build their own, or buy the AMG
> > units. Afterall Renntech ONLY WANTS $4000 to fix my old 3.27 GT...
> >
> > And good luck getting 30 units paid for....
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:02 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > David, talk to me, rishayegan at davidson.edu
> > What do you know about this diff? It would make it interesting if it
> > weren't too expensive, but I can't afford to put thousands towards a
> > diff with everything else that I'm doing.
> >
> > BTW, Eddie, on the Quaife. They said a one off would cost $6500 (yes,
> > just one, and brand new, and only $1500 more than a used AMG) and a
> > batch of 30 would cost between $1200-2000, depending on the diff.
> > Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of David G. Cole
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:58 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > NOW this conversation is going to get interesting for Richard....
> >
> > dave
> > w/ 3.07 Gleason diff setting in Stu's old shop
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Richard,
> >> The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter B.C.
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
> >> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >>
> >> I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
> >>
> >> The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into
> >> has ABS and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer
> >> - if your car has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or
> >> your ABS won't work.
> >>
> >>
> >> Later,
> >> Mike R.
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >>
> >> Hey Ramay,
> >> Can you help on this question?
> >> B.C.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >>
> >> Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
> >> see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
> >> that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
> >> Thank you,
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >>
> >> F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
> >> and
> >> Bolt it right end. Easy deal
> >> B.C.
> >> The MB Coupes Website!
> >> W126 SEC Mailing List
> >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >>
> >> The MB Coupes Website!
> >> W126 SEC Mailing List
> >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >> The MB Coupes Website!
> >> W126 SEC Mailing List
> >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >>
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> >
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:13:06 -0400
>From: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <016401c6cc57$8fe26dc0$0502a8c0 at HomeOffice>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Even better, who gets to hold onto the $60K (30 x $2K) until all the units
>are paid for? :)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>
> > Well said Eddie....You won't even get 5 units paid for....
> >
> > Satish
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
> > To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> >
> > > See? That's why everyone is looking to build their own, or buy the
>AMG
> > > units. Afterall Renntech ONLY WANTS $4000 to fix my old 3.27 GT...
> > >
> > > And good luck getting 30 units paid for....
> > >
> > > Eddie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:02 AM
> > > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> > >
> > > David, talk to me, rishayegan at davidson.edu
> > > What do you know about this diff? It would make it interesting if it
> > > weren't too expensive, but I can't afford to put thousands towards a
> > > diff with everything else that I'm doing.
> > >
> > > BTW, Eddie, on the Quaife. They said a one off would cost $6500 (yes,
> > > just one, and brand new, and only $1500 more than a used AMG) and a
> > > batch of 30 would cost between $1200-2000, depending on the diff.
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of David G. Cole
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:58 AM
> > > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> > >
> > > NOW this conversation is going to get interesting for Richard....
> > >
> > > dave
> > > w/ 3.07 Gleason diff setting in Stu's old shop
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Richard,
> > >> The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter B.C.
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
> > >> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> > >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> > >>
> > >> I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
> > >>
> > >> The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into
> > >> has ABS and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer
> > >> - if your car has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or
> > >> your ABS won't work.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Later,
> > >> Mike R.
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > >> On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
> > >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> > >>
> > >> Hey Ramay,
> > >> Can you help on this question?
> > >> B.C.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
> > >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> > >>
> > >> Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
> > >> see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
> > >> that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
> > >> Thank you,
> > >> Richard
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > >> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
> > >> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > >> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> > >>
> > >> F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
> > >> and
> > >> Bolt it right end. Easy deal
> > >> B.C.
> > >> The MB Coupes Website!
> > >> W126 SEC Mailing List
> > >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > >>
> > >> The MB Coupes Website!
> > >> W126 SEC Mailing List
> > >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > >> The MB Coupes Website!
> > >> W126 SEC Mailing List
> > >> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > >
> > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
> > >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
> > Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 15
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:33:04 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID:
> <245060D7FF2C0B48BF8080FF20241C0201FFEF6E at SWEETIRMA.davidson.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Personally, if I were in the market for an AMG one that's seen over a
>decade of use for $5000, I rather spend $6500 and have a one-off made.
>You don't have to get 30 to get an order in. You can get 10, it would
>just cost more per unit. But yeah, people would pledge money and not pay
>and things like that (didn't that happen with that sway bar group buy?).
>
>As far as building your own, that doesn't seem to be any more feasible.
>Every gear maker I've talked to says it would take 100 orders to get
>custom gears made.
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Eddie
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:09 PM
>To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>See? That's why everyone is looking to build their own, or buy the AMG
>units. Afterall Renntech ONLY WANTS $4000 to fix my old 3.27 GT...
>
>And good luck getting 30 units paid for....
>
>Eddie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:02 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>David, talk to me, rishayegan at davidson.edu What do you know about this
>diff? It would make it interesting if it weren't too expensive, but I
>can't afford to put thousands towards a diff with everything else that
>I'm doing.
>
>BTW, Eddie, on the Quaife. They said a one off would cost $6500 (yes,
>just one, and brand new, and only $1500 more than a used AMG) and a
>batch of 30 would cost between $1200-2000, depending on the diff.
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of David G. Cole
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:58 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>NOW this conversation is going to get interesting for Richard....
>
>dave
>w/ 3.07 Gleason diff setting in Stu's old shop
>
>
>
>
> > Richard,
> > The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter B.C.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
> > To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
> >
> > The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into
> > has ABS and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer
> > - if your car has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or
> > your ABS won't work.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> > Mike R.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Hey Ramay,
> > Can you help on this question?
> > B.C.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
> > see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
> > that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
> > Thank you,
> > Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
> > and
> > Bolt it right end. Easy deal
> > B.C.
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > W126 SEC Mailing List
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>Message: 16
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Russ Farrar <farrar_1998 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Visors
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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>I am in need of 2 black visors for my 89 SEC. Any help would be
>appreciated.
>
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>Message: 17
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:07:22 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Visors
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>Call the guys at www.pgauto.com, last time I was there they had a whole
>selection of sun visors.
>Richard
>
>________________________________
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>On Behalf Of Russ Farrar
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:46 PM
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Visors
>
>
>I am in need of 2 black visors for my 89 SEC. Any help would be
>appreciated.
>
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>Message: 18
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:50:13 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>Hmmm, I called Stu's shop, they don't have any lying around. He said to
>change it out from a 2.47 to a 3.07 would require taking the gear set
>from a 450SEL and then fitting them (he said there is quite a bit of
>fitting work, i.e. it's something he would have to do) to the existing
>case. $2200 parts and labor...so we're getting a lot lower in price
>anyways. He did note that the availability of this would not be
>problematic (unlike the AMG piece) I guess the diff is something that
>I'll have to wait one more year to do.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of David G. Cole
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:58 AM
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>NOW this conversation is going to get interesting for Richard....
>
>dave
>w/ 3.07 Gleason diff setting in Stu's old shop
>
>
>
>
> > Richard,
> > The guy who really knows is Stu Ritter B.C.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:36 AM
> > To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > I don't know if a 450 diff will just bolt in - haven't done that yet.
> >
> > The question of ABS need or not depends on the car it is going into
> > has ABS and I don't remember what year is Richard's car. Short answer
> > - if your car has ABS, the differential has to have the ABS sensor or
> > your ABS won't work.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> > Mike R.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:14 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Hey Ramay,
> > Can you help on this question?
> > B.C.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:05 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > Is there any other information I need to know when looking for one (I
> > see some of the W126 diffs specify ABS, will I have to find a 450 dff
> > that also specifies ABS, or will any ol' diff pop in)?
> > Thank you,
> > Richard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> > [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:39 AM
> > To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> > Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
> >
> > F.Y.I. If you are pre "86" just grab a 3.07 out of a 450 SEL pre "80"
> > and
> > Bolt it right end. Easy deal
> > B.C.
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>Message: 19
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:57:21 -0400
>From: jflyer2 at aim.com
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Door Lock Change
>To: mfmeyer at iwon.com, mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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>As to the shaved doors, my father did that to a 1953 Studebaker Starlite
>coupe back in the late 50's when I was a kid. Being done before the idea of
>remote locking devices, he had a microswitch located between the hood and
>the left front fender at the base of the windshield that he would push with
>the ignition key. He also did the same thing with the rear decklid.The car
>also had what was termed "bullnosed hood" which was removing the chrome
>trim and smoothing it out. Since it was the late 50's era of tail fins, he
>also fabricated a set for the car and used '57 Plymouth rear tailights. The
>car had dual exhausts, headers and cam. The interior was totally customized
>with "tuck and roll" black and white naugahyde, which was the hot ticket
>back then. Even though I was only 5 or 6 yrs. old, I loved that car and was
>mad at him when he sold it, because I wanted it. My first infatuation with
>a coupe.
>Jay
>'91 560SEC
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mfmeyer at iwon.com
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>Sent: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 2:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Door Lock Change
>
>
>He is awesome, I love to see what he'll do with a car/truck/SUV, etc. Yeah,
>I wonder what they would do to an SEC myself. Would they do a Satish or
>Talbir engine transplant, would they even have a clue how to do that? I
>haven't seen anything but American cars done so far. Haven't seen the
>camaros you've mentioned, but I did see some other newer cars like the
>Mustang and what they did to it. He has amazing talent.
>
>Markus Meyer
>484-919-9762 (cell)
>http://www.meyerprobateproperties.com/
>
>--- On Tue 08/29, David Fatovic < coloradocroat at yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>From: David Fatovic [mailto: coloradocroat at yahoo.com]
>To: mfmeyer at iwon.com, mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Door Lock Change
>
>I have!!!!! What a dream that would be to see what he
>could do with an SEC. I believe he is probably the
>best designer out there right now. Did you see what
>he did with the boys down in Texas to start producing
>"new" 69 Camaros? Amazing. He goes for the classic
>understated look. Actually a set of his wheels is
>what I am going to end up putting on the car.
>
>David
>
>--- Markus Meyer wrote:
>
> > Suggest to your wife, as I have tried, to call
> > Overhaulin', I'm sure Chip Foose can take care of
> > this for you, and then some!Markus Meyer484-919-9762
> > (cell)http://www.meyerprobateproperties.com/--- On
> > Tue 08/29, David Fatovic <
> > coloradocroat at yahoo.com > wrote:
> > From: David Fatovic [mailto:
> > coloradocroat at yahoo.com]To:
> > mbcoupes at mbcoupes.comDate: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:13:44
> > -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Door Lock
> > ChangeI am actually talking about removing the door
> > handlescompletely and filling in the holes left
> > over. Thiswould give a complete smooth look to the
> > side. Maybeinstall a fingerprint scanner!
> > HA!David--- Dick Spellman wrote:> Hi David:>
> > > I have seen an MB with the forward facing
> > 'wind,> rain' lip > shaved/removed. I think it
> > was the WALD modified> SEC. It does look >
> > like a better finish along the door with the lip>
> > gone. I presume you > are just talking about that
> > raised lip or are you> talking about removing
> > > the door handles all together?> > There
> > is a write-up in MBCoupes on remote door lock>
> > with receiver > mounted/wired in the trunk behind
> > one of the rear> tail light access > plates.
> > There may be some differences in wiring> where
> > the early model > pump was
> > 3-wire and the later model had several> more. If
> > you have the > 3-wire pump it should be fairly
> > easy to hook-up I> would think. I've > always
> > wanted to have the windows lower a smidge> when
> > opening closing > the doors and have remote
> > access to sunroof and> windows when arming the
> > > SEC. Just have not thrown any time at these>
> > niceties that are common on > Ford Mustangs, etc
> > today.> > Let us know how you progress in this
> > good set of> ideas.> > Dick> > David
> > Fatovic wrote:> > >I have a question. Now
> > that I am going to be> coming> >up on a
> > time when I can start working on my green>
> > 500> >SEC, I was thinking about shaving the
> > door handles> and> >installing a remote
> > door opener so that it will pop> >the door
> > open for entry. > >> >Has anybody ever
> > seen anything like this, done> >anything like
> > this? > >> >Where would I start
> > looking?> >> >David>
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>Message: 20
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:26:09 -0600 (MDT)
>From: "David G. Cole" <dc at dc-mc.com>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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>Markus,
>
>Yes, should have held my tongue on that one.
>
>The diff is sitting in stu's old shop (technically this should now be
>called Mark's shop as he sold it to Mark a few years ago) because it has
>some chips with stress cracks in the worm gears. This is the starting
>point of a major destruction and I did not want the diff in the car when
>it explodes. As Eddie can attest, when this happens it is not a pretty
>sight.
>
>Currently looking into what it will cost to have new worm gears, and
>possibly the ring gear, machined new. Eddie is correct, new parts are no
>longer available (barring NOS forgotten on a shelf somewhere) and the
>manufacturer will not support this old a diff. Early opinion is that the
>worm gears were not made of the same type material as the original MB
>gears and are the weak link, alloy wise, in the system. There have been
>numerous accounts of the gleason diffs exploding.
>
>Needless to say, it ain't gonna be cheap, bench time alone for
>re-alignment looks to be in the $1500-$1800 range plus the cost of the new
>bits. And don't kid yourself, an MB diff requires special jigs to align
>correctly, we are not talking a chevy diff gear swap for $500. Hence, it
>is setting on the shelf while I decide how to play this out. That combined
>with me being out of the country so much any more because of work that it
>has taken a back seat to other priorities in my life.
>
>And I might has well be complete in my comments, in regards to how this
>will now turn interesting for richard in regards to talking to Stu.... not
>wanting to put words into Stu's mouth, but he generally has little patance
>for time wasters after they refuse to listen to solid advice in the first
>place. This song and dance has been played out by richard over and over
>and over..... There is a reason he asks his questions here on an SEC list,
>even though he does not have an SEC, instead of over on Ritter's list with
>far more people who are very familiar with his specific car. A bit harsh
>maybe, but factual.
>
>dave
>
>
>
>---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>From: "Markus Meyer" <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
>Date: Wed, August 30, 2006 11:25 am
>To: dc at dc-mc.com
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> David, Okay, you've raised more than a little interest I'm sure. What's
>this diff sitting in Stu's old shop? Something you are using, not using,
>what's the story?!
>
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>Message: 21
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:25:07 -0400
>From: "Kirby, Alan (MED US)" <alan.kirby at siemens.com>
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hesitation on Start
>To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>1989 560 SEC
>119k miles
>
>Recent changes:
>Replaced plugs (gap at .039), wires, rotor, cap and air cleaner
>Replaced injectors, holders, ands seals
>
>The car used to start on the first turn over of the engine. Now when
>it's cold, it starts on about the third turnover of the engine.
>When it's warm, it usually starts on the first turnover.
>
>Any ideas??
>
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>Message: 22
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:52:30 -0400
>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>What are you talking about Dave? Stu's shop seemed friendly, and
>understanding when I mentioned that I wouldn't have that kind of money
>after this conversion work, but I'll get back in touch with them when I
>do. And if you don't think this is happening ask Jonathan. I've already
>got my plane tickets (for flying back when I drop off the car and flying
>there when I pick it up). I ask my questions here because I found here
>first, the people here seem to know their stuff, and I didn't feel like
>signing up for another list. I've asked a lot questions all tending
>towards this direction in the past because I wanted to have my ducks in
>a row first, while I was still saving up the money. O ye of little
>faith.
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of David G. Cole
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:26 PM
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>
>
>And I might has well be complete in my comments, in regards to how this
>will now turn interesting for richard in regards to talking to Stu....
>not wanting to put words into Stu's mouth, but he generally has little
>patance for time wasters after they refuse to listen to solid advice in
>the first place. This song and dance has been played out by richard over
>and over and over..... There is a reason he asks his questions here on
>an SEC list, even though he does not have an SEC, instead of over on
>Ritter's list with far more people who are very familiar with his
>specific car. A bit harsh maybe, but factual.
>
>dave
>
>
>
>---------------------------- Original Message
>----------------------------
>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rear diff?
>From: "Markus Meyer" <mfmeyer at iwon.com>
>Date: Wed, August 30, 2006 11:25 am
>To: dc at dc-mc.com
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>
> David, Okay, you've raised more than a little interest I'm sure. What's
>this diff sitting in Stu's old shop? Something you are using, not
>using, what's the story?!
>
>Markus
>
>
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>Message: 23
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:12:11 -0400
>From: Dick Spellman <spell.yy at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hesitation on Start
>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>Hi Alan:
>
>A few questions.
>
>Can you provide a list of the mfg. components used for the plugs, wires,
>cap and rotor?
>Have you checked to see if the cold start injector is firing when the
>engine is cold?
>Does the engine smell like it's rich on a cold start?
>Does the car start faster when you depress the accelerator a bit while
>cold cranking?
>How's the engine run at idle after a cold start and after having warmed up?
>Did you do the work or an independent shop?
>
>Regards,
>
>Dick
>
>Kirby, Alan (MED US) wrote:
>
> > 1989 560 SEC
> > 119k miles
> >
> > Recent changes:
> > Replaced plugs (gap at .039), wires, rotor, cap and air cleaner
> > Replaced injectors, holders, ands seals
> >
> > The car used to start on the first turn over of the engine. Now when
> > it's cold, it starts on about the third turnover of the engine.
> > When it's warm, it usually starts on the first turnover.
> >
> > Any ideas??
> >
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>Message: 24
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:48:34 -0700
>From: Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at mac.com>
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Replacement diffs -- SECs
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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>Everyone,
>
>It's coming up on a year since I completed the replacement of my
>560SEC 2.47 rear end with a 3.07 unit. Here's a report on the
>replacement and my experience.
>
>With the help of list member Gary Dempsey last year, I was able to
>obtain a 3.07 unit, along with a spare stock 560 2.47 unit. The
>spare 2.47 unit would be used for its exterior housing, into which
>the 3.07 gearset would be placed. The stock 2.47 on the car would be
>retained in case the desire was to go back to a stock configuration
>in the future.
>
>Gary had lined up replacement swaps for his and my cars with a local
>rear-end / transmission guy here in Portland, and Gary did all of the
>logistics as far as sourcing the replacement and new rear ends from a
>junk yard. He also obtained same units for his own 560SEC.
>
>As Barry Corno mentioned, for the early-series 500 and 380SEC cars,
>the 450SL/SEL rear end is a direct bolt-in, and he was able to do
>this. However for the post 1985 cars, the rear-end carrier is
>different and thus requires the retrofitment of the 450 gears INTO a
>late-style housing. This is technically not too complicated of a
>swap, but one has to know what they are doing.
>
>Gary can talk about prices, but I will say that I was able to obtain
>the two rear ends, including shipping, and get the labor for the swap
>done for SIGNIFICANTLY (thousands of $$$) LESS than the prices that
>I've seen quoted here for said work.
>
>After the work was done, I had a dilemma of the speedometer being
>"off" by about 10-12 MPH at freeway speeds. There are a couple of
>solutions to this: you can either modify the transmission to send
>the proper signal to the speedo, or you can alter the electric signal
>coming to the speedo so that it reflects the real speed.
>
>I chose the latter. Steve Lemberg of Bergwerks helped me out with a
>radio adapter box, which is also commonly available on line from a
>number of vendors for around $100-200. The unit I got has four wires
>and is about the size of a cigarette pack. First I did a detailed
>check of the difference in indicated vs. real-life MPH, by comparing
>the odo reading to a measured 10-mile distance on the freeway. Next
>you turn this into a fraction and do the math, and come up with a
>ratio number. Once you have this ratio number, you look in the
>extensive table of numbers supplied with the ratio adapter box and
>set the appropriate DIP switches inside the ratio adapter box.
>
>The four wires are connected to switched +12V power, ground, signal
>in from transmission and signal out to speedo. The most difficult
>thing is determining which wire coming out of the back of the speedo
>is the correct wire to cut to splice into the box. The power and
>ground wires are simple -- there is a large chassis ground point
>right behind the cluster, and (with Talbir's help...thanks) I found a
>rather unadulterated switched power lead in the power to the digital
>temperature gauge LCD readout.
>
>After connecting things, and some troubleshooting (a problem was
>caused by the fact that I made a three-wire setting of a DIP switch
>on the ratio adapter rather than a two-wire setup) I tucked the ratio
>adapter well up and behind the dash cluster (sort of at the top
>behind the center vents) and buttoned everything up.
>
>I've been driving the car approx 400 miles per week round trip up to
>Seattle from Portland since April, so I've gotten some good mileage
>under the wheels. Everything is working very well with no problems.
>The car is getting approx 1-2 MPG less than with the stock rear end
>(I would say it's getting 14-15 highway MPG though I've seen as low
>as 12-13 on some tankfuls -- normal variance). Acceleration is
>noticeably quicker -- I haven't had it to the track yet this season
>for a quarter-mile run, but I'd estimate at least 0.5-0.75 second
>faster in the 1/4 mile. The car tested out stock at 15.1 seconds
>quarter mile with the 2.47 rear end, a couple of seasons back.
>
>On driving freeway speeds, I find that at 60 MPH the car is running
>2,500 RPM. At 80 MPH the car is running just over 3,500 RPM. Above
>80 things are really spun up and it gets pretty noisy if you are on
>the freeway for a length of time at that speed. For some people it
>might get tiring. But I don't spend too much time at 90 MPH+ in the
>car, so it doesn't bother me much. Also above 80 and you are REALLY
>sucking down the gas, but we all know that even with the 2.47s.
>
>All in all it's a replacement that I would heartily recommend if you
>have thought about it. You need to find someone who is competent and
>careful and who can do the gear swap if you have a later car -- if
>you have an early car you are home free. Other than that, you need
>to get a ratio adapter to change your speedo signal appropriately,
>and then you're good to go. The SECs were among the first-generation
>of MB cars to move to an electrical speedo signal -- no speedo cable
>is used.
>
>Cheers,
>Gerry
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 25
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:08:40 -0700
>From: Gerry Van Zandt <gerryvz at mac.com>
>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Re: Hatch and Sons is back !!
>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>Message-ID: <496FAD78-0848-4C2D-848C-C53C88C86DA9 at mac.com>
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>I have owned one 57K local Portland 6.3, and currently have a parts
>car left over from my ownership, plus a partially rebuilt spare 6.3
>motor in my garage at home.
>
>The 6.3 is a nice novelty, as Jonathan said, but not for 99% of most
>owners to try to do. First of all, you had BETTER have a competent
>mechanic who has worked on 6.3s for a long period of time, close at
>hand. The car will be spending quite a bit of time in the shop on an
>annual basis. That being said, a competent mechanic will do you
>right, and as systems are repaired (such as suspension) they won't go
>bad again for years to come. The 6.3 engine is absolutely
>bulletproof, with top and bottom end going 300,000 miles if decently
>maintained.
>
>The Bosch mechanical fuel injection pumps should be maintained about
>every 125,000 miles, and there are only two places in the US that are
>competent at doing this: Jerry Fairchild Industries of Redding CA,
>and Pacific Fuel Injection of South San Francisco, CA. The injection
>pump has its own sump and camshaft, as well as a supply of oil that
>comes from the engine itself. Cooling is from the gasoline.
>
>The air suspension on the 6.3 has two major weaknesses: the airbags
>(one at each corner) and the air ride valves, of which there are 4 on
>the car plus a main control valve in the engine compartment.
>Generally the o-ring seals in teh valves go bad with age, and rebuilt
>valves must be purchased and installed. Only 1-2 places in the US
>supply rebuilt valves, with only about a 50% "take" rate. You can
>get new Bosch valves from MB but last I checked they are something
>like $3K a set. The airbags should be replaced every 5-7 years.
>
>The other major problem with 6.3s is the rubber and soft parts:
>motor mounts, suspension bushings, window rubber, door seals, etc.
>It just goes bad and lazy/cheap owners never bother to replace it.
>
>Cosmetically, you typically see that the wood needs redoing, as well
>as the interiors.
>
>The heater levers often get brittle and break....and to do these
>right it is a bit of a DIY job.
>
>A stock US model 560SEC is just as fast as a stock 6.3 (my best with
>my stock 1969 -- pre-smog -- 6.3 was 15.07 seconds in the 1/4 mile as
>compared to 15.1 with the SEC) and has a far higher top speed. The
>6.3's aerodynamics and engine power limit it to a top speed of 130+
>MPH. The engine is made for low revs and torque (it has 434 lb-ft)
>and thus, above 3,700 RPM it rapidly starts running out of breathing
>room. By 4,500 RPM it's pretty much worthless as far as helping
>acceleration. Compare this to a 500E -- which pulls fully from idle
>to redline, and you see a HUGE contrast. The 560SEC is somewhere in
>between.
>
>There is a theorem that we have as 6.3 owners, that the "6.3" is
>actually a multiplier of the cost of stock 108/109 chassis parts.
>
>If you're interested you can see photos of the low-miles 6.3 that I
>owned for many years, but sold to a collector in Boston about 18
>months ago:
>
>http://www.ibiz.net/~pmhack/mercedes/6-3693.htm
>
>I'll just tell you all that owning an SEC and a 500E both is a MUCH
>better and funner proposition than the 6.3 and 6.9 (which I also
>owned simultaneously with the 6.3 for about 4 years). I sold both
>the 6.3 and 6.9 out of frustration with the owners club catering to
>those cars, rather than for financial reasons. For a period of time
>I actually owned the 6.3, 6.9, 500E and 560SEC all together. I find
>now that the 500E and 560SEC are all that I need (and in two days,
>the addition of a 1987 560SL with 43K miles on it, for my wife).
>
>If anyone wants or needs more insight into a 6.3, don't hesitate to
>contact me.
>
>An article I wrote on how to find a good car is located online at:
>
>http://articles.mbz.org/buying/checklists/m100/
>
>
>Cheers,
>Gerry
>
>
>
>
>On Aug 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com wrote:
>
> > 6.3's are novel and interesting to drive but can't say I'd ever
> > want to own one.. Between maintenance and the cost of parts the
> > cost of the car is the least painful part of ownership.
> >
> > That 500E they have was originally for sale over @ RUF..interesting
> > to see they have it now.
> >
> > Jonathan
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>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:36:59 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>From: jralex at ix.netcom.com
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Visors
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>Message: 27
>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:47:00 -0400
>From: "Gary Peck" <gary.peck at sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hesitation on Start
>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>Alan
>
>I had the same problem, turns out it was a deffective EHA regulator, the o
>rings may be shot, try replacing them first then test for leaks, 90% odds
>you will have to replace the EHA not cheap retails for $270.00 in Canada.
>
>Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kirby, Alan (MED US)
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:25 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hesitation on Start
>
>
> 1989 560 SEC
> 119k miles
>
> Recent changes:
> Replaced plugs (gap at .039), wires, rotor, cap and air cleaner
> Replaced injectors, holders, ands seals
>
> The car used to start on the first turn over of the engine. Now when
>it's cold, it starts on about the third turnover of the engine.
> When it's warm, it usually starts on the first turnover.
>
> Any ideas??
>
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