[W126 Coupe] Re: MBCOUPES DigestCANCEL
jaycroix
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Fri Aug 11 19:52:35 EDT 2006
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> 3. RE: Off Topic (Mister McGoo)
> 4. please cancel subscription (jaycroix)
> 5. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Mike R.)
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> 9. RE: Above 100 MPH (Henry Viveiros)
> 10. RE: Above 100 MPH (Axel Wulff)
> 11. RE: Above 100 MPH (Barry Corno)
> 12. RE: Above 100 MPH (Henry Viveiros)
> 13. RE: Above 100 MPH (Eddie)
> 14. RE: Was the Self Levelling Suspension onthe380SECaGimmick? (DW)
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> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:25:39 +0100 (BST)
> From: John Poole <ajohnpoole at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] What tires for my 3-piece AMG wheel
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> From: "Mdefran at earthlink.net" <mdefran at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
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> The other thing you might also want to do other than new pads and fluid is
> to change your brake lines to stainless. Remeber your are approaching 20
> years on rubber. You want all possible pressure on the discs. I just did
> mine and it's not a big deal to change or money. Email and I will send you
> the company link. You might want to consider the higher performance fluid
> and not just stock.
>
> If you can go fast, you definitely want to be able to stop this beast!
>
> Have fun
> Mark De Francisco
> Stealth SEC
> 66 Lotus Elan
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:38:13 +0000
> From: "Mister McGoo" <eelploot at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
> To: "Stephen ." <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Stephen;
>
> To remove the radio from a 124: Lift the liner material (carpet) from the
> tray behind the switch/shifter consol to expose one Philips screw.
> Unscrew and lift to remove the wood window switch panel. (It may make a
> sharp cracking noise which is alarming but is normal.) You may have to
> remove some switch connections to access the area below the ashtray.
> (Particularly if you have heated seats) Unscrew the two screws holding
> the ashtray assembly in place and remove it. The radio should be easy to
> access now.
>
> -Bellamy
>
>
>
>> From: stephenleslie at hotmail.com> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com> Subject: Re:
>> [W126 Coupe] Off Topic> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:33:16 -0700> > Thanks
>> Dan, but these radios don't appear to have the same clips or holes in >
>> the radio face for releasing them. The radio in the 300E is identical to
>> > the one in my 380SEC. What am I missing?
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>> 1. Danger at 100MPH? (Dorian Garson)
>> 2. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Mike R.)
>> 3. "WHEELS" (duke jordan)
>> 4. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Barry Corno)
>> 5. Re: Danger at 100MPH? (Jonathan Hodgman)
>> 6. Thanks Clay (Mdefran at earthlink.net)
>> 7. Fuel line replacement (Jack)
>> 8. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (brucem105 at comcast.net)
>> 9. Re: Danger at 100MPH? (David Fatovic)
>> 10. RE: Danger at 100MPH? (Steve Nervig)
>> 11. 245 km per hour (Kent Kihl)
>> 12. Re: "WHEELS" (Doug Gavin)
>> 13. caqncel sub please (jaycroix)
>> 14. Re: caqncel sub please (Dan Landiss)
>> 15. What tires for my 3-piece AMG wheel (Franco)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:24:13 -0700
>> From: "Dorian Garson" <dorian_garson at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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>> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and looking
>> for more Sunday fun!
>>
>> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day. I'd love to try it,
>> but
>> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec over
>> 100MPH.
>>
>> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down at speeds
>> over 100MPH. However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter springs.
>> There's
>> not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>>
>> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the SLS kicks
>> down at high speed? How far does it drop?
>>
>> This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>>
>> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering
>> springs,
>> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires. I placed 3rd at the autocross
>> event,
>> after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared coupe
>> and
>> a
>> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>
>> Thanks for your help, listers.
>>
>> [dorian] | sl107.com
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:32:15 -0700
>> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>>
>> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with H&R
>> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>
>> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will not
>> "self lower".
>>
>> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>> about
>> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
>> rotors.
>> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>
>> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>> (702) 494-8056
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Dorian Garson
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:24 AM
>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>
>> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and looking
>> for more Sunday fun!
>>
>> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day. I'd love to try it,
>> but
>>
>> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec over
>> 100MPH.
>>
>> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down at speeds
>> over 100MPH. However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter springs.
>> There's
>> not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>>
>> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the SLS kicks
>> down at high speed? How far does it drop?
>>
>> This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>>
>> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering
>> springs,
>> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires. I placed 3rd at the autocross
>> event,
>>
>> after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared coupe
>> and
>> a
>>
>> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>
>> Thanks for your help, listers.
>>
>> [dorian] | sl107.com
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:28:55 -0400
>> From: "duke jordan" <dupreej111 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] "WHEELS"
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>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:33:34 -0700
>> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>> Ramay,
>> I visited the place you need to get involved with this weekend.
>> Daryl Armstrong from Precision Brakes Co. in Ashland, OR. Is in the
>> Process of getting me 13" rotors with 4 piston calibers for my 17"
>> Wheels. His shop is Top notch and has done some wonder stuff.
>> www.precisionbrakescompany.com
>> The stock brake size on these SEC'S were not designed to do LAGUNA SECA
>> at
>> + 100 miles and hour. Remember you are trying to stop 2 tons not a 1 ton
>> Race car.
>>
>> B.C.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>
>> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
>> H&R
>> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>
>> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
>> not
>> "self lower".
>>
>> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>> about
>> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
>> rotors.
>> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>
>> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>
>> Later,
>> Mike R.
>> (702) 494-8056
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:29:32 -0400
>> From: "Jonathan Hodgman" <jhodgman at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1d2f90170608091129h17ece559if9c4dca8afa5cc96 at mail.gmail.com>
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>> In my experience/to the best of my knowledge our cars don't lower..only
>> the
>> one's w/ full hydromat will raise and lower @ speed.
>>
>> As for traveling over 100MPH you needn't worry..that's almost a daily
>> occurrence over here...I always say it's not a proper day unless you hit
>> the
>> ton!
>>
>> Enjoy your run and Good luck!
>>
>> Send us some photo's of you hammering around if you can:)
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On 8/9/06, Mike R. <mramay at att.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
>>> H&R
>>> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>>> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>>> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>>
>>> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
>>> not
>>> "self lower".
>>>
>>> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>>> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>>> about
>>> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
>>> rotors.
>>> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>>> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>>> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>>
>>> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Mike R.
>>> (702) 494-8056
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Dorian Garson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:24 AM
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>>
>>> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and
>>> looking
>>> for more Sunday fun!
>>>
>>> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day. I'd love to try it,
>>> but
>>>
>>> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec over
>>> 100MPH.
>>>
>>> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down at
>>> speeds
>>> over 100MPH. However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter springs.
>>> There's
>>> not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>>>
>>> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the SLS
>>> kicks
>>> down at high speed? How far does it drop?
>>>
>>> This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>>>
>>> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering
>>> springs,
>>> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires. I placed 3rd at the autocross
>>> event,
>>>
>>> after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared coupe
>>> and
>>> a
>>>
>>> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help, listers.
>>>
>>> [dorian] | sl107.com
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how
>>> to
>>> get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:38:27 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
>> From: "Mdefran at earthlink.net" <mdefran at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Thanks Clay
>> To: mbcoupes <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>> Thanks for the kind words and understanding.
>>
>> Understand this though, I have an 84 SEC and damn near everything on the
>> 91 can be used on the 84. I still have an engine and transmission that
>> have approximately 118K on it that is in perfect operating condition.
>> Also
>> this car has had some major work and upgrades done to it and it would be
>> a
>> shame for all that effort to go to waste. The real question remaining is
>> how far do I want to go with it with the time I have available to me.
>>
>> Parts for these cars, as I have found out are very expensive and there
>> are
>> a lot of bottom feeders out there. I am not trying to make a killing on
>> what people are looking for, but I am not going to give them away either
>> as my/our labor is worth something as well.
>>
>> Chat Later,
>> Mark De Francisco
>> Stealth SEC
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:44:03 -0700
>> From: "Jack" <jwhoran at cox.net>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Fuel line replacement
>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <000601c6bbe3$c9577480$6501a8c0 at athlon>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> A quick question hopefully. Does the gas tank have to be drained to
>> replace
>> the threaded rubber fuel return line located above the fuel pumps and
>> below
>> the gas tank?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance! Hate those gasoline showers.
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>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:49:58 +0000
>> From: brucem105 at comcast.net
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>> I would do a flull flush and then use Castrol SRF fluid. It is the best
>> stuff on earth, even better than Motul 600 or any other race fluid,
>> expensive and worth it. I'd also go with good race pads and rotors. If
>> you
>> can direct air at the brakes via a hose or duct, even better.
>>
>> You can skimp and save on tires, suspension, etc and it will decrease
>> your
>> speed around the track.
>>
>> But if you skimp and save on brakes, it will decrease your life
>> expectancy!
>>
>> As Barry says, this is two tons of metal at very high speeds. A few
>> "anchor-out" stops and your brakes are toast. I used to run a highly
>> modified Audi S4 at tracks all over the east coast. 380HP and 3900 lbs.
>> not a great combination for brakes, esepcially at tracks with long
>> straight and tight corners like Summit Point, VIR, and Watkins Glen. More
>> than once it was "underwear changing" time.
>>
>> So I upgraded to stainless steel lines all around, Castrol SRF fluid,
>> Porsche 993TT "Big Red" calipers up front on 13"+ drilled/slotted rotors,
>> and Pagid Orange pads. Problem solved. :)
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
>>
>>> Ramay,
>>> I visited the place you need to get involved with this weekend.
>>> Daryl Armstrong from Precision Brakes Co. in Ashland, OR. Is in the
>>> Process of getting me 13" rotors with 4 piston calibers for my 17"
>>> Wheels. His shop is Top notch and has done some wonder stuff.
>>> www.precisionbrakescompany.com
>>> The stock brake size on these SEC'S were not designed to do LAGUNA SECA
>>> at
>>> + 100 miles and hour. Remember you are trying to stop 2 tons not a 1 ton
>>> Race car.
>>>
>>> B.C.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
>>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>>
>>> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
>>> H&R
>>> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>>> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>>> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>>
>>> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
>>> not
>>> "self lower".
>>>
>>> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>>> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>>> about
>>> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
>>> rotors.
>>> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>>> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>>> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>>
>>> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Mike R.
>>> (702) 494-8056
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:01:53 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: David Fatovic <coloradocroat at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060809190153.95490.qmail at web32514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>> I have had my 91 SEC (before being totalled) up to
>> 130mph with no problem. Same lowering as yours
>>
>> David
>>
>> --- Dorian Garson <dorian_garson at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> After my first time out autocrossing this weekend,
>>> I'm hooked and looking
>>> for more Sunday fun!
>>>
>>> The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day.
>>> I'd love to try it, but
>>> I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get
>>> my '89 560sec over
>>> 100MPH.
>>>
>>> I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension
>>> will drop down at speeds
>>> over 100MPH. However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on
>>> shorter springs. There's
>>> not much clearance left above the tires even when
>>> standing still.
>>>
>>> Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel
>>> wells when the SLS kicks
>>> down at high speed? How far does it drop?
>>>
>>> This isn't something I want to find out the hard
>>> way!
>>>
>>> BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics,
>>> the lowering springs,
>>> 18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires. I placed 3rd
>>> at the autocross event,
>>> after an experienced competitor in an older,
>>> fully-race-prepared coupe and a
>>> kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help, listers.
>>>
>>> [dorian] | sl107.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:13:54 -0700
>> From: Steve Nervig <dakota at mac.com>
>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>>
>> Barry, What do we need brakes for??!!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 09, 2006, at 11:29AM, Barry Corno
>> <bc at unitedsalad.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Ramay,
>>> I visited the place you need to get involved with this weekend.
>>>Daryl Armstrong from Precision Brakes Co. in Ashland, OR. Is in the
>>>Process of getting me 13" rotors with 4 piston calibers for my 17"
>>>Wheels. His shop is Top notch and has done some wonder stuff.
>>>www.precisionbrakescompany.com
>>>The stock brake size on these SEC'S were not designed to do LAGUNA SECA
>>>at
>>>+ 100 miles and hour. Remember you are trying to stop 2 tons not a 1 ton
>>>Race car.
>>>
>>>B.C.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
>>>To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>>
>>>You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
>>>H&R
>>>lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
>>>245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
>>>corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>>
>>>The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
>>>not
>>>"self lower".
>>>
>>>One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
>>>brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
>>>about
>>>three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
>>>rotors.
>>>They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
>>>straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
>>>pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>>
>>>Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>>
>>>Later,
>>>Mike R.
>>>(702) 494-8056
>>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:53:18 +0200
>> From: "Kent Kihl" <kzkihl at netactive.co.za>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 245 km per hour
>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <AKEDJFHLKCHDFJCMJGJOIEDGDEAA.kzkihl at netactive.co.za>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I had a 420 SEC (1986) some years ago, and on a drive from Nice in South
>> of
>> France to Gothenburg in Sweden, on some of the motorways in Germany 245
>> km
>> per hour was no problem and I didn't even knew that there was something
>> like
>> lowering suspension.
>>
>> Kent Kihl
>> 082 496 0914
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:08:56 -0500
>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] "WHEELS"
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <44DA4EE8.5030905 at houston.rr.com>
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>>
>> duke jordan wrote:
>>
>>> */ Hello ,/*
>>>
>>> */ Was wondering if anyone out there would be interested/*
>>>
>>> */ in a set of 18" Lorinsers that I have on my 380 sec../*
>>>
>>> */ I have the stock set & ws considering putting them back/*
>>>
>>> */ on. Will send pics., if you might be interested....../*
>>>
>>> */ Also have the 18" x 40s w/ them. Only 1,000 mi../*
>>>
>>> *//*
>>> */ THANKS, /*
>>> */ "DUKE"/*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> From: /"Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>/
>>> Reply-To: /Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>/
>>> To: /"'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>/
>>> Subject: /RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?/
>>> Date: /Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:32:15 -0700/
>>> >You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway,
>>> with H&R
>>> >lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone
>>> to
>>> >245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide
>>> through
>>> >corners and full throttle accelerations.
>>> >
>>> >The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension
>>> will not
>>> >"self lower".
>>> >
>>> >One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the
>>> track. My
>>> >brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it
>>> was about
>>> >three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on
>>> slotted rotors.
>>> >They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the
>>> front
>>> >straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know
>>> I could
>>> >pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>>> >
>>> >Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>>> >
>>> >Later,
>>> >Mike R.
>>> >(702) 494-8056
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> >On Behalf Of Dorian Garson
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:24 AM
>>> >To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> >Subject: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>>> >
>>> >After my first time out autocrossing this weekend, I'm hooked and
>>> looking
>>> >for more Sunday fun!
>>> >
>>> >The local Benz dealer has an annual race track day. I'd love to
>>> try it, but
>>> >
>>> >I'm concerned about what's going to happen if I get my '89 560sec
>>> over
>>> >100MPH.
>>> >
>>> >I've read that the self-leveling rear suspension will drop down
>>> at speeds
>>> >over 100MPH. However, my car's lowered ~1.5" on shorter
>>> springs. There's
>>> >not much clearance left above the tires even when standing still.
>>> >
>>> >Will my rear tires hit the further-lowered wheel wells when the
>>> SLS kicks
>>> >down at high speed? How far does it drop?
>>> >
>>> >This isn't something I want to find out the hard way!
>>> >
>>> >BTW, my SEC is bone stock except for some cosmetics, the lowering
>>> springs,
>>> >18" AMG wheels + Pirelli p-zero tires. I placed 3rd at the
>>> autocross event,
>>> >
>>> >after an experienced competitor in an older, fully-race-prepared
>>> coupe and a
>>> >
>>> >kid in a highly modified Integra.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks for your help, listers.
>>> >
>>> >[dorian] | sl107.com
>>> >
>>> >_________________________________________________________________
>>> >On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice
>>> on how to
>>> >get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
>>> >
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>>> >
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>> To Duke, What part of the world are you in? And, How much. By the wsy, I
>> could not open the attachment. Probably operator error on this end.
>>
>> Doug
>> Houston TX
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:06:17 +1000
>> From: "jaycroix" <jaycroix at optusnet.com.au>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] caqncel sub please
>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com>
>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:44 AM
>> Subject: MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 22, Issue 5
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
>>> 2. Re: Climate Control Fuse ? (Paul Samarin)
>>> 3. Re: Climate Control Fuse ? (Doug Gavin)
>>> 4. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Mike R.)
>>> 5. SEC W140 Sale (AudFats at aol.com)
>>> 6. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
>>> 7. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
>>> 8. Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC a Gimmick?
>>> (Kivendren Moodliyar)
>>> 9. RE: Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC a Gimmick?
>>> (Mike R.)
>>> 10. Re: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC a
>>> Gimmick? (Jim Ham)
>>> 11. MARK DeFRANCO (clay)
>>> 12. Brake cleaner safety? (Shayegan, Richard)
>>> 13. RE: Brake cleaner safety? (Eddie)
>>> 14. RE: SEC W140 Sale (Gary Green)
>>> 15. Body Question??? (Hovsep Dovlatian)
>>> 16. RE: Body Question??? (Stephen .)
>>> 17. Re: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC aGimmick?
>>> (Vance Rowley)
>>> 18. RE: Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC aGimmick?
>>> (Kivendren Moodliyar)
>>> 19. RE: Body Question??? (Kivendren Moodliyar)
>>> 20. RE: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SECaGimmick? (DW)
>>> 21. 126 Dash Pad (Elm Zobens)
>>> 22. RE: Body Question??? (Stephen .)
>>> 23. Hood pad insulation installation (Doug Gavin)
>>> 24. Off Topic (Stephen .)
>>> 25. Re: Hood pad insulation installation (jralex at ix.netcom.com)
>>> 26. Re: Off Topic (Dan Landiss)
>>> 27. Re: Hood pad insulation installation (Doug Gavin)
>>> 28. Re: Off Topic (Stephen .)
>>> 29. Re: Off Topic (Dan Landiss)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:33:55 -0700
>>> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAIEPMCNAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was
>>> partially
>>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I suppose
>>> I'll
>>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>>
>>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being
>>> parked
>>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>>> minutes)
>>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Mike.
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:39:42 -0700
>>> From: Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>>> I had an 86 560 SEC and had exactly the same problem (I don't have it
>>> anymore, so I have to go by memory.) There is a fuse outside of the
>>> fuse box...I don't know if it's the blower fuse you guys are talking
>>> about, because I don't know what it was called. It was a strip of
>>> metal not encased in plastic or anything...in other words, just a strip
>>> of thin metal between two screws; and, mine was completely burnt away.
>>> I theorized that the poor old a/c was working so hard in the excessive
>>> heat, that it literally blew the fuse. Anyway, if you're standing at
>>> the driver's side fender looking at the fuse box, look just past it to
>>> the vertical "wall" that is behind the engine but forward of the
>>> firewall. I think the fuse is under some sort of cover, but mine never
>>> had the cover.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Paul Samarin
>>> Whose 500 SL is not quite the car the SEC was, but it's fun nonetheless.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Henry Viveiros wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was
>>>> partially
>>>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I suppose
>>>> I'll
>>>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>>>
>>>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being
>>>> parked
>>>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>>>> minutes)
>>>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again, Mike.
>>>> <winmail.dat>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:34:48 -0500
>>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <44D58D88.3000102 at houston.rr.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Paul Samarin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had an 86 560 SEC and had exactly the same problem (I don't have it
>>>> anymore, so I have to go by memory.) There is a fuse outside of the
>>>> fuse box...I don't know if it's the blower fuse you guys are talking
>>>> about, because I don't know what it was called. It was a strip of
>>>> metal not encased in plastic or anything...in other words, just a
>>>> strip of thin metal between two screws; and, mine was completely burnt
>>>> away. I theorized that the poor old a/c was working so hard in the
>>>> excessive heat, that it literally blew the fuse. Anyway, if you're
>>>> standing at the driver's side fender looking at the fuse box, look
>>>> just past it to the vertical "wall" that is behind the engine but
>>>> forward of the firewall. I think the fuse is under some sort of
>>>> cover, but mine never had the cover.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Samarin
>>>> Whose 500 SL is not quite the car the SEC was, but it's fun
>>>> nonetheless.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Henry Viveiros wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was
>>>>> partially
>>>>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I
>>>>> suppose I'll
>>>>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being
>>>>> parked
>>>>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>>>>> minutes)
>>>>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again, Mike.
>>>>> <winmail.dat>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>>> W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>> Just a thought guys on the metal strip. Could it be that the heat
>>> escalation in the sun is sufficient enough to expand the metal in that
>>> "fuse" and cause it to open or separate the circuit? Ask someone to
>>> help you with a little test. Turn on the ignition switch and jump it
>>> with a pair of alligator clips and a length of wire just to see if it
>>> kicks on or use a hairpin and rubber handled pliers to hold it to
>>> complete the circuit for a split second just to confirm? It might point
>>> you in the right direction and.I don't think merely making the
>>> connection for a split second will have any negative result or damage
>>> any circuits. Good luck.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 06:18:20 -0700
>>> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <20060806131829.08644120391 at mailwash11.pair.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Something about this fuse that it tends to blow on Friday evening, right
>>> after the parts department closes.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I went to the local parts store and bought a 30 amp spade fuse
>>> (U.S.
>>> variety) and the socket for it with a short amount of wire. Removed the
>>> MB
>>> metal fuse pieces and put the wires from the fuse socket under the
>>> screws
>>> for the MB fuse. Put an MB fuse in a week or two later.
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Mike R.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 10:06:06 EDT
>>> From: AudFats at aol.com
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <bc8.1f25b66.3207514e at aol.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Good morning Coupesters,
>>> A little off topic here, yet I want to offer the group before the
>>> unwashed
>>> public. We have some sheetmetal here that we need to clear out of
>>> inventory. The
>>> vehicle of question for this letter is a 1993 600 SEC. We've got the
>>> records
>>> (ouch) for this beast all the way back to the sticker. She's truly the
>>> top
>>> of
>>> the food chain. You wait for no body on the Interstate with this one.
>>> Very
>>> nice ride with plenty of guts.
>>> Feel free to contact me directly. I'll send photos and info. Car is
>>> located
>>> on the West Coast of Florida. (Clearwater)
>>> I thank you all for your time.
>>> Hopefully I'll be keeping the W126 through this little bump in life.
>>>
>>> Motor on.
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Paul Niesen
>>> audfats at aol.com
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 07:41:15 -0700
>>> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAGEPNCNAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
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>>>
>>> Gee Whiz Paul - I hope you didn't get rid of the SEC just because the
>>> blower
>>> fuse went out !
>>>
>>> Hey Doug - I'll try jumping the fuse this afternoon (the car has to be
>>> closed up and parked in the sun) and will let you know what happens.
>>>
>>> The fuse has to be replaced anyway. The metal (lead?) is much more soft
>>> than
>>> I would expect it to be. There was some material like the white fuzz
>>> that
>>> sometimes develops at a battery post on one of the link attaching
>>> screws.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 07:43:37 -0700
>>> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAAEPOCNAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Thanks Mike - I'll try that until I get the correct part.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:25:01 +0200
>>> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>>> a Gimmick?
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <20060807122503.AC8BC3DAB at ctb-mesg4.saix.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>>> conventional suspension system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing
>>> the
>>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten
>>> the
>>> Springs
>>>
>>> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:15:15 -0700
>>> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the
>>> 380SEC a Gimmick?
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <20060807151541.40BD41203C1 at mailwash11.pair.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> If you have an exceptionally hard ride in the back and your mechanic is
>>> telling you that you need to new rear shocks, there are two things you
>>> need
>>> to do immediately:
>>>
>>> 1. fire the mechanic, he has no idea what he's doing.
>>> 2. replace the self-leveling hydraulic accumulators under the back of
>>> the car (~$120 each), a DIY job. While you're at it, replace the rubber
>>> bushings on the top of the rear hydraulic rams (the shock absorber
>>> looking
>>> things).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D
>>> <http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D&dr
>>> illid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsguru
>>>>
>>> &drillid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsg
>>> uru
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Later,
>>>
>>> Mike R.
>>>
>>> (702) 494-8056
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Kivendren Moodliyar
>>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:25 AM
>>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>>> aGimmick?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>>> conventional suspension system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing
>>> the
>>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten
>>> the
>>> Springs
>>>
>>> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:31:44 -0700
>>> From: Jim Ham <jimham at porcine.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
>>> 380SEC a Gimmick?
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060807092544.01ad7850 at porcine.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Why do you think you need new "shocks"? As Mike says, the things that
>>> look
>>> like shocks are not in the Mercedes system. Even the Mercedes manual
>>> states
>>> that seepage from the rams is normal. I personally wouldn't consider
>>> replacing them unless they are dripping on the floor of the garage.
>>> Remember that in a real shock you have only a few CCs of fluid placed in
>>> there by the factory - once leaked out it's gone. With your rams you
>>> have
>>> all the fluid in the hydraulic reservoir to replenish any seepage.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jim Ham
>>>
>>> At 05:25 AM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>>>>shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>>>>proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>>>>conventional suspension system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>>>>please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing
>>>>the
>>>>car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten
>>>>the
>>>>Springs
>>>>
>>>>Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>> Porcine Associates
>>> +1.650.326.2669
>>> www.porcine.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:37:58 -0700
>>> From: "clay" <benzman3 at cox.net>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] MARK DeFRANCO
>>> To: "mbcoupes" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <001101c6ba58$fd4f0320$c6d86844 at clayton>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>> Recieved part on saturday, thanks for taking care of me. I understand
>>> there could be problems with the car in Las Vegas and you in San
>>> Francisco, that's alot of traveling just to strip a car.
>>> Regards, Clay
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:23:50 -0400
>>> From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
>>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <245060D7FF2C0B48BF8080FF20241C0247B7A6 at SWEETIRMA.davidson.edu>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Can it be safely assumed that all parts in the area of the brakes (such
>>> as
>>> the speed sensors for the ABS) can be safely cleaned with brake parts
>>> cleaner?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 13
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:19:47 -0700
>>> From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV11FB1D3C6F9AD5B737F048BD540 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Avoid the brake lines, rims/tires, and overspray onto the body and
>>> wheelwells.
>>>
>>> Eddie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
>>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:24 PM
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
>>>
>>>
>>> Can it be safely assumed that all parts in the area of the brakes (such
>>> as
>>> the speed sensors for the ABS) can be safely cleaned with brake parts
>>> cleaner?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> The MB Coupes Website!
>>> W126 SEC Mailing List
>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 14
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:25:19 -0400
>>> From: "Gary Green" <Gary at EverGreen-Systems.COM>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <000c01c6ba81$217c2750$6801a8c0 at D6LJYC61>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Would you care to share the particulars?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you wish, you can email me offline.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of AudFats at aol.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:06 AM
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning Coupesters,
>>> A little off topic here, yet I want to offer the group before the
>>> unwashed
>>> public. We have some sheetmetal here that we need to clear out of
>>> inventory.
>>> The vehicle of question for this letter is a 1993 600 SEC. We've got the
>>> records (ouch) for this beast all the way back to the sticker. She's
>>> truly
>>> the top of the food chain. You wait for no body on the Interstate with
>>> this
>>> one. Very nice ride with plenty of guts.
>>> Feel free to contact me directly. I'll send photos and info. Car is
>>> located
>>> on the West Coast of Florida. (Clearwater)
>>> I thank you all for your time.
>>> Hopefully I'll be keeping the W126 through this little bump in life.
>>>
>>> Motor on.
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Paul Niesen
>>> audfats at aol.com
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>>> Message: 15
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Hovsep Dovlatian <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <20060808041425.88684.qmail at web37705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>> fit on an
>>> 84 Euro 500SEC???
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 16
>>> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:58:29 -0700
>>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F18F2F39B66F54B71884412A4540 at phx.gbl>
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>>>
>>> yes
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Hovsep Dovlatian <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
>>>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>>>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>>Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>>>fit
>>>>on an
>>>>84 Euro 500SEC???
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>> http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 17
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:42:54 +0100
>>> From: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
>>> 380SEC aGimmick?
>>> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <003a01c6bab5$e10cfed0$4101a8c0 at toshibauser>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> The SLS system a Gimmick? I can say with absolute confidence and
>>> experience, absolutely not. In fact I can attest to what a superb and
>>> practical system it actually is. Especially after driving from Greece to
>>> the UK in my 1991 Euro 560 SEC a few years back. The car was loaded up
>>> to
>>> the hilt. The trunk completely full to the brim and the back passenger
>>> well and seats loaded up with just enough room for view through the rear
>>> screen. In fact even the front passenger well and seat was loaded up as
>>> well with just enough room for me behind the steering wheel. Not only
>>> did
>>> the system allow to drive at 160MPH on the German autobahns with the car
>>> being completely level, but it was as smooth as silk with great
>>> handling.
>>>
>>> However I can understand what you are experiencing if you are getting a
>>> rough ride from the rear at the moment, as I had exactly the same
>>> symptoms
>>> about 3 months before my long journey.It was worse than driving on a
>>> cobbled road and as hard as a rock (from the rear only). It turned out
>>> that all it was, was the "bombs" as they are nicknamed needed
>>> replacing.From your description, it sounds to me like you have the same
>>> problem. It was a cheap and quick job and after these were replaced it
>>> was
>>> like riding on air again. So as to your comment on the SLS system giving
>>> a
>>> harder ride is concerned, I would say absolutely not and would strongly
>>> advise not to remove the SLS or modify the rear suspension system in any
>>> way. Just have the "bombs" replaced. You will find the difference is
>>> like
>>> chalk and cheese. I had mine done at a MB agent in Greece, but if you
>>> are
>>> a DIYer, I think there is a write up somewhere in the archives.
>>>
>>> I hope this sways you to make the right decision.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Vance.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Kivendren Moodliyar
>>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:25 PM
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>>> aGimmick?
>>>
>>>
>>> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>>> conventional suspension system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing
>>> the
>>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten
>>> the Springs
>>>
>>> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 18
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:24:04 +0200
>>> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the
>>> 380SEC aGimmick?
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <20060808082440.155B82A0B at ctb-mesg7.saix.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Ha ha ha.. That was funny.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike, this Mechanic helped sort out my idling by completely modyfying
>>> the
>>> idling valve in the Engine with a screw that we can adjust. This seemed
>>> to
>>> help the car from that rough idle as well as stalling.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the Mech wanted to go for the Normal Shock Absorbers & tighten
>>> the
>>> springs due the factr that new shock on this car is so expensive. No you
>>> telling me about the self levelling hydraulic accumulators under the
>>> back
>>> of
>>> t car. The mech also made mention that we have to change the rear bush
>>> mountings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whats the difference between the SLS hydraulic shocks and the hydraulic
>>> accumulators?
>>>
>>> And
>>>
>>> Is this rear bushes the same as the rubber bushings you made mention of
>>> in
>>> the e-mail below? Cos if it is this is going to cost R2000 from MB, for
>>> the
>>> kit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there some sort of way we can test the rear suspension and check why
>>> I
>>> am
>>> losing the hydraulic fluid (not forgetting the leaking hydraulic fluid
>>> container) as well as test to see all other rear suspension parts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ever so grateful
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Mike R.
>>> Sent: 07 August 2006 05:15 PM
>>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC
>>> aGimmick?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have an exceptionally hard ride in the back and your mechanic is
>>> telling you that you need to new rear shocks, there are two things you
>>> need
>>> to do immediately:
>>>
>>> 1. fire the mechanic, he has no idea what he's doing.
>>> 2. replace the self-leveling hydraulic accumulators under the back of
>>> the car (~$120 each), a DIY job. While you're at it, replace the rubber
>>> bushings on the top of the rear hydraulic rams (the shock absorber
>>> looking
>>> things).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D
>>> <http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D&dr
>>> illid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsguru
>>>>
>>> &drillid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsg
>>> uru
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Later,
>>>
>>> Mike R.
>>>
>>> (702) 494-8056
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Kivendren Moodliyar
>>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:25 AM
>>> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
>>> aGimmick?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>>> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>>> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>>> conventional suspension system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>>> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing
>>> the
>>> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten
>>> the
>>> Springs
>>>
>>> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 19
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:32:19 +0200
>>> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <20060808083227.6546E23BC at ctb-mesg3.saix.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Im sure the Grill will fit, not sure about the Fenders though
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Hovsep Dovlatian
>>> Sent: 08 August 2006 06:14 AM
>>> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>> fit
>>> on an
>>> 84 Euro 500SEC???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
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>>> Message: 20
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:09:23 -0500
>>> From: "DW" <dwgriff at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
>>> 380SECaGimmick?
>>> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <002901c6bb3f$b06cec60$210110ac at DANAWANA>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Definitely not a gimmick. But remember, on your car he actually has
>>> leveling on all four wheels! Here in the States most everyone has
>>> experience with rear-leveling only. I agree that it is probably the
>>> bombs,
>>> (of which there are four!), but don't jump to conclusions about your
>>> mechanic. He might know more about this than most Americans. I
>>> understand
>>> that this was a very rare option on the US spec cars. Tell me, does
>>> yours
>>> have the pull-knob next to the headlamp switch? And the corresponding
>>> dash
>>> indicator?
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>>> Message: 21
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:35:32 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Elm Zobens <elm at ameritech.net>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 126 Dash Pad
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <20060809023532.42466.qmail at web81613.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I just purchased a used dash pad for my 86' 560 SEC. Of course I should
>>> have asked this sooner but will a dash pad from a 91' (air bag) fit an
>>> 86'
>>> (glove box) without major surgery?
>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Elm Zobens
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>>> Message: 22
>>> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:42:51 -0700
>>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F20D2CC488C953DAD337B5DA4550 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>>
>>> The fenders will fit also.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>>>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:32:19 +0200
>>>>
>>>>Im sure the Grill will fit, not sure about the Fenders though
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>>>
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>>>>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>>>On Behalf Of Hovsep Dovlatian
>>>>Sent: 08 August 2006 06:14 AM
>>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>>>fit
>>>>on an
>>>>84 Euro 500SEC???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>>Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make
>>>><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman1/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt
>>>>=39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+
>>>>countries) for 2¢/min or less.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 23
>>> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:13:39 -0500
>>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <44D952E3.4060708 at houston.rr.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>>> some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
>>> included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>>> used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 24
>>> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:14:17 -0700
>>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F13CD4E12BBC988216F544BA4550 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>> My wife has a 300E 1987. Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>>> working (Becker). I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure
>>> how
>>> to
>>> get the radio out.
>>>
>>> No problem with the SEC, have had the radio and climate control module
>>> out
>>> a
>>> few times. Anyone had experience with a 300E? or a site similar to
>>> this
>>> mbcoupes that deals with these cars?
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Play Q6 for your chance to WIN great prizes.
>>> http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 25
>>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: jralex at ix.netcom.com
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <6606816.1155106504963.JavaMail.root at elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Doug, Use 3M #08088 General Trim Adhesive for the hood pad. I bought
>>> mine
>>> at Advance Auto. This is what my MB mechanic uses also. Go to
>>> mbcoupes.com, W126,archives,search engine and type hood pad for past
>>> discussions and help with tecniques. Jim Alexander
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>>>Sent: Aug 8, 2006 11:13 PM
>>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>>>
>>>>Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>>>>some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
>>>>included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>>>>used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Doug
>>>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 26
>>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0500
>>> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <44D9DFDD.6040101 at landiss.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> on 8/9/2006 1:14 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My wife has a 300E 1987. Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>>>> working (Becker). I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure
>>>> how to get the radio out.
>>>
>>> <http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/213/45/>
>>>
>>> <http://www.shareamemory.com/radio/removal.htm>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
>>> or predatory poverty." --Joseph Pulitzer
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 27
>>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:26:20 -0500
>>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>> To: jralex at ix.netcom.com, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
>>> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <44D9FE9C.9090503 at houston.rr.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> jralex at ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Doug, Use 3M #08088 General Trim Adhesive for the hood pad. I bought
>>>>mine
>>>>at Advance Auto. This is what my MB mechanic uses also. Go to
>>>>mbcoupes.com, W126,archives,search engine and type hood pad for past
>>>>discussions and help with tecniques. Jim Alexander
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>>>>Sent: Aug 8, 2006 11:13 PM
>>>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>>>>>some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but
>>>>>none
>>>>>included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>>>>>used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>Doug
>>>>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Jim, thanks for the advice and the part number. This is an excellent
>>> forum and I appreciate what I've learned in just the last two weeks from
>>> the members.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 28
>>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:33:16 -0700
>>> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Message-ID: <BAY20-F12616CD3442CAB40FF3339A4550 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Thanks Dan, but these radios don't appear to have the same clips or
>>> holes
>>> in
>>> the radio face for releasing them. The radio in the 300E is identical
>>> to
>>> the one in my 380SEC. What am I missing?
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>>>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>>>>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0500
>>>>
>>>>on 8/9/2006 1:14 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>My wife has a 300E 1987. Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>>>>>working (Becker). I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure
>>>>>how
>>>>>to get the radio out.
>>>>
>>>><http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/213/45/>
>>>>
>>>><http://www.shareamemory.com/radio/removal.htm>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
>>>> or predatory poverty." --Joseph Pulitzer
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Play Q6 for your chance to WIN great prizes.
>>> http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 29
>>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:44:07 -0500
>>> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> Message-ID: <44DA10D7.9080901 at landiss.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> on 8/9/2006 11:33 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>>> Thanks Dan, but these radios don't appear to have the same clips or
>>>> holes in the radio face for releasing them. The radio in the 300E is
>>>> identical to the one in my 380SEC. What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Maybe yours uses tools shaped like these:
>>>
>>> <http://www.tss-radio.com/mercedes-audi-radio-removal-tools-p-316.html>
>>> <http://www.addacdchanger.co.uk/Mercedes_Radio_Removal_Tool>
>>> <http://www.pro-fit-intl.com/mercedes.html>
>>> <http://www.sirius-radio-satellite.com/browseproducts/Radio-Removal-Tools-for-Mercedes-and-Audi.HTML>
>>>
>>> The last link sells them for $7.50/pair, or you could try making your
>>> own. Or a local shop might remove it for a six-pack of beer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
>>> or predatory poverty." --Joseph Pulitzer
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> The MB Coupes Website!
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>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>> End of MBCOUPES Digest, Vol 22, Issue 5
>>> ***************************************
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:29:39 -0500
>> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] caqncel sub please
>> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <44DA61D3.2010501 at landiss.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 8/9/2006 5:06 PM jaycroix posted the whole danged digest to try to
>> unsubscribe. Here are two ways:
>>
>> <http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mbcoupes>, or
>>
>> <mailto:mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com?subject=unsubscribe>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
>> or predatory poverty." --Joseph Pulitzer
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:06:35 -0700
>> From: "Franco" <dusktilldawn at cox.net>
>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] What tires for my 3-piece AMG wheel
>> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>> Message-ID: <44DA6A7A.000003.05272 at YOUR-4F1261A8E5>
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>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:38:46 -0700
> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20060810033850.09D54120391 at mailwash11.pair.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Looks interesting! He didn't have any info on Mercedes on the site, so let
> me know how long it takes to get a set and how much.
>
> The guy selling me the LS6 is a mechanical design engineer and designed
> the
> adapter to put a set of 6-piston wildwood NASCAR brakes on his RX7. I
> think
> it was 13" rotors. He said if I got him the dimensions, he'd design one
> for
> the SEC. The place that sold him the 6-piston calipers and rotors will
> sell
> 4-piston setups as well. Under $700 for either, I think, but we'd still
> need
> the adapter made.
>
> Later,
> Mike R.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Barry Corno
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:34 AM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>
> Ramay,
> I visited the place you need to get involved with this weekend.
> Daryl Armstrong from Precision Brakes Co. in Ashland, OR. Is in the
> Process of getting me 13" rotors with 4 piston calibers for my 17"
> Wheels. His shop is Top notch and has done some wonder stuff.
> www.precisionbrakescompany.com
> The stock brake size on these SEC'S were not designed to do LAGUNA SECA
> at
> + 100 miles and hour. Remember you are trying to stop 2 tons not a 1 ton
> Race car.
>
> B.C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Mike R.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:32 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Danger at 100MPH?
>
> You'll be fine. I took my '87 560SEC out on Laguna Seca Raceway, with
> H&R
> lowering springs and 16" rims. Nothing rubbed anywhere. I've gone to
> 245/40/18" rubber now and still no rubbing, even when I slide through
> corners and full throttle accelerations.
>
> The SLS does not have a speed sensing capability, the suspension will
> not
> "self lower".
>
> One major caveat - put in new brake fluid before you go on the track. My
> brakes lasted 3.5 laps at Laguna before I boiled the fluid and it was
> about
> three years old. I have PBR semi-metallic pads in front on slotted
> rotors.
> They did great, it was the fluid that decided (at the end of the front
> straight) that I didn't have any more brake pedal. I didn't know I could
> pump the brake pedal that fast!! :-0
>
> Where are you located and which track are you about to try??
>
> Later,
> Mike R.
> (702) 494-8056
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:01:28 +0200
> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on
> the380SECaGimmick?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20060810110138.7BABF1ACF at ctb-mesg2.saix.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> No pull-knob and no corresponding dash indicator, Why do you ask?
>
>
>
> Empowering Small Business Enterprises and strengthening our Nation
>
> _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of DW
> Sent: 09 August 2006 01:09 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on
> the380SECaGimmick?
>
>
>
> Definitely not a gimmick. But remember, on your car he actually has
> leveling on all four wheels! Here in the States most everyone has
> experience with rear-leveling only. I agree that it is probably the
> bombs,
> (of which there are four!), but don't jump to conclusions about your
> mechanic. He might know more about this than most Americans. I
> understand
> that this was a very rare option on the US spec cars. Tell me, does yours
> have the pull-knob next to the headlamp switch? And the corresponding
> dash
> indicator?
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:51:32 -0500
> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] please cancel subscription
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>,
> jaycroix at optusnet.com.au
> Message-ID: <44DB2BD4.9020206 at landiss.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> on 8/9/2006 9:03 PM jaycroix, again quoting the entire digest, wrote:
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/mbcoupes
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> mbcoupes-request at mbcoupes.com
>
> That's how you do it.
>
>
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> "There are none so blind as those who WILL not read.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:53:06 -0400
> From: "Axel Wulff" <axelwulff at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] What tires for my 3-piece AMG wheel
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <BAY112-F1238D9592AC31009C1ADB1B14A0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> Franco,
>
> I run Kumho 712s, 245/45 in the front and 275/40 at the rear on my 3-piece
> AMG rims.
>
> I wanted a little more lip on the rear wheels than the 265 would provide
> to
> protect the rims from curbing, and the 245s go better with the 275s
> (overall whell diameter is the same, 65.2 cm).
>
>
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Franco" <dusktilldawn at cox.net>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] What tires for my 3-piece AMG wheel
>>Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:06:35 -0700
>>
>>
>> Hi guys
>>Need some advise
>>Just got myself a set of AMG 3-piece 17" wheels
>>17 x 8.5 front
>>17 x 10 rear
>>Now what should I put on them?
>>I was told NITTO extreme 555
>>235/45/17 front
>>265/40/17 rear
>>Does anybody have a better idea
>>
>>
>>
>>sincerely,
>>Franco
>>
>>1987 560sec
>>
>><< PinUpToons29.jpg >>
>
>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:26:10 -0700
> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
> To: "Mdefran at earthlink.net" <mdefran at earthlink.net>, "Mercedes Coupes
> Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAGEAICOAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I have braided SS lines ready to install. Is there anything I should know
> about draining old fluid and bleeding?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:34:33 -0400
> From: "Axel Wulff" <axelwulff at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <BAY112-F345CDBDCBC51AD2D6E87DFB14A0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> Henry,
>
> Make sure you have a proper brake bleeding pump and drain bottle.
>
> Brake fluid is highly toxic and reactive so wear safety goggles and
> heady-duty PVC gloves and make sure fluid gets thoroghly washed off
> anything
> it touches.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
> 610-731-5453 Cellular
> 610-572-4611 Home
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: "Mdefran at earthlink.net" <mdefran at earthlink.net>,"Mercedes Coupes
>>Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
>>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:26:10 -0700
>>
>>I have braided SS lines ready to install. Is there anything I should know
>>about draining old fluid and bleeding?
>>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:41:36 -0700
> From: "Barry Corno" <bc at unitedsalad.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID:
> <0D978735FD9EA64C964ACF5D46A563D8938012 at SARATOGA.pdx.spada.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Henry,
> Daryl is only 40 miles away from you. Give him a call
> 1 866 992 7253
> B.C.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Henry Viveiros
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:26 AM
> To: Mdefran at earthlink.net; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
>
> I have braided SS lines ready to install. Is there anything I should
> know
> about draining old fluid and bleeding?
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:00:34 -0700
> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANACEAJCOAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Thanks Axel for the cautions & Barry for the Ashland connection. I had
> read
> a message that had his info some time ago and planned to drop by and check
> things out - maybe next week. Thanks again.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:59:38 -0700
> From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV6DDEF11D0965C020C1EC7BD4A0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I can't quite remember the procedure, but you can't actually drain and
> fill-up. The brake booster needs to have fluid kept in it, and you also
> want to have the old fluid completely out. Make sure you get complete
> instructions before starting!
>
> Eddie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Henry Viveiros
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:26 AM
> To: Mdefran at earthlink.net; Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Above 100 MPH
>
> I have braided SS lines ready to install. Is there anything I should know
> about draining old fluid and bleeding?
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:11:09 -0500
> From: "DW" <dwgriff at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension
> onthe380SECaGimmick?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Because that's how it's illustrated in my service manual. I thought it
> was
> a very nice accessory-to be able to select one's ride height while in
> motion.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Kivendren Moodliyar
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:01 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension
> onthe380SECaGimmick?
>
>
>
> No pull-knob and no corresponding dash indicator, Why do you ask?
>
>
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> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of DW
> Sent: 09 August 2006 01:09 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on
> the380SECaGimmick?
>
>
>
> Definitely not a gimmick. But remember, on your car he actually has
> leveling on all four wheels! Here in the States most everyone has
> experience with rear-leveling only. I agree that it is probably the
> bombs,
> (of which there are four!), but don't jump to conclusions about your
> mechanic. He might know more about this than most Americans. I
> understand
> that this was a very rare option on the US spec cars. Tell me, does yours
> have the pull-knob next to the headlamp switch? And the corresponding
> dash
> indicator?
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:37:23 -0500
> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Cigar lighter adapter for cell phone radar
> detector
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <44DC0983.80501 at houston.rr.com>
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> Hi All, Can anyone tell me where I can get an adapter for my 560 SEC
> cigar lighter so I can plug in my cell phone charger and my redar
> detector?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Gavin
> Houston TX
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:54:16 -0700
> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Cigar lighter adapter for cell phone radar
> detector
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> Plug your cell phone charger in the back seat ashtray, and your radar in
> the
> front ashtray.
>
>
>>From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Cigar lighter adapter for cell phone radar detector
>>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:37:23 -0500
>>
>>Hi All, Can anyone tell me where I can get an adapter for my 560 SEC
>>cigar
>>lighter so I can plug in my cell phone charger and my redar detector?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Doug Gavin
>>Houston TX
>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:08:34 -0500
> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Cigar lighter adapter for cell phone radar
> detector
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <44DC8F62.7030706 at houston.rr.com>
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> Stephen . wrote:
>
>> Plug your cell phone charger in the back seat ashtray, and your radar
>> in the front ashtray.
>>
>>
>>> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>> Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
>>> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Cigar lighter adapter for cell phone radar
>>> detector
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:37:23 -0500
>>>
>>> Hi All, Can anyone tell me where I can get an adapter for my 560 SEC
>>> cigar lighter so I can plug in my cell phone charger and my redar
>>> detector?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Doug Gavin
>>> Houston TX
>>> The MB Coupes Website!
>>> W126 SEC Mailing List
>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
>>
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> Hi, I appreciate your reply. But, the issue is not where to plug in the
> items, but that the plugs on the ends of my various appliances will not
> fit into the cigar lighters therefore I need an adapter. These "plugs"
> fit all of my other cars including American cars, Toyota and Volvo but
> are too small for the 90 SEC cigar lighter. If I do plug them in the
> loose fit blows the fuse. It's not the lighter receptacle itself, (the
> one in the back has never been used) it's the plugs so I must need an
> adapter. The MB dealer says there is one but they had no source for the
> adapter. Thanks
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:47:20 -0400
> From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Cigar lighter adapter for cell phone radar
> detector
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> <245060D7FF2C0B48BF8080FF20241C0247B7AC at SWEETIRMA.davidson.edu>
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> That's very very strange. I have never heard of such an adapter, and I
> routinely use a cell phone charger and have no problems. The plugs may fit
> in the other cars, but I'm guessing they are cheap plugs and are probably
> just no good.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of Doug Gavin
> Sent: Fri 8/11/2006 10:08 AM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Cigar lighter adapter for cell phone radar
> detector
> Hi, I appreciate your reply. But, the issue is not where to plug in the
> items, but that the plugs on the ends of my various appliances will not
> fit into the cigar lighters therefore I need an adapter. These "plugs"
> fit all of my other cars including American cars, Toyota and Volvo but
> are too small for the 90 SEC cigar lighter. If I do plug them in the
> loose fit blows the fuse. It's not the lighter receptacle itself, (the
> one in the back has never been used) it's the plugs so I must need an
> adapter. The MB dealer says there is one but they had no source for the
> adapter. Thanks
> The MB Coupes Website!
> W126 SEC Mailing List
> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
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