[W126 Coupe] caqncel sub please
jaycroix
jaycroix at optusnet.com.au
Wed Aug 9 18:06:17 EDT 2006
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> 1. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
> 2. Re: Climate Control Fuse ? (Paul Samarin)
> 3. Re: Climate Control Fuse ? (Doug Gavin)
> 4. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Mike R.)
> 5. SEC W140 Sale (AudFats at aol.com)
> 6. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
> 7. RE: Climate Control Fuse ? (Henry Viveiros)
> 8. Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC a Gimmick?
> (Kivendren Moodliyar)
> 9. RE: Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC a Gimmick?
> (Mike R.)
> 10. Re: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC a
> Gimmick? (Jim Ham)
> 11. MARK DeFRANCO (clay)
> 12. Brake cleaner safety? (Shayegan, Richard)
> 13. RE: Brake cleaner safety? (Eddie)
> 14. RE: SEC W140 Sale (Gary Green)
> 15. Body Question??? (Hovsep Dovlatian)
> 16. RE: Body Question??? (Stephen .)
> 17. Re: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC aGimmick?
> (Vance Rowley)
> 18. RE: Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC aGimmick?
> (Kivendren Moodliyar)
> 19. RE: Body Question??? (Kivendren Moodliyar)
> 20. RE: Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SECaGimmick? (DW)
> 21. 126 Dash Pad (Elm Zobens)
> 22. RE: Body Question??? (Stephen .)
> 23. Hood pad insulation installation (Doug Gavin)
> 24. Off Topic (Stephen .)
> 25. Re: Hood pad insulation installation (jralex at ix.netcom.com)
> 26. Re: Off Topic (Dan Landiss)
> 27. Re: Hood pad insulation installation (Doug Gavin)
> 28. Re: Off Topic (Stephen .)
> 29. Re: Off Topic (Dan Landiss)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:33:55 -0700
> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
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> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was partially
> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I suppose
> I'll
> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>
> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being parked
> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
> minutes)
> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>
> Thanks again, Mike.
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> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:39:42 -0700
> From: Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
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> I had an 86 560 SEC and had exactly the same problem (I don't have it
> anymore, so I have to go by memory.) There is a fuse outside of the
> fuse box...I don't know if it's the blower fuse you guys are talking
> about, because I don't know what it was called. It was a strip of
> metal not encased in plastic or anything...in other words, just a strip
> of thin metal between two screws; and, mine was completely burnt away.
> I theorized that the poor old a/c was working so hard in the excessive
> heat, that it literally blew the fuse. Anyway, if you're standing at
> the driver's side fender looking at the fuse box, look just past it to
> the vertical "wall" that is behind the engine but forward of the
> firewall. I think the fuse is under some sort of cover, but mine never
> had the cover.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Paul Samarin
> Whose 500 SL is not quite the car the SEC was, but it's fun nonetheless.
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Henry Viveiros wrote:
>
>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was
>> partially
>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I suppose
>> I'll
>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>
>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being
>> parked
>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>> minutes)
>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>
>> Thanks again, Mike.
>> <winmail.dat>The MB Coupes Website!
>> W126 SEC Mailing List
>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:34:48 -0500
> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Paul Samarin wrote:
>
>> I had an 86 560 SEC and had exactly the same problem (I don't have it
>> anymore, so I have to go by memory.) There is a fuse outside of the
>> fuse box...I don't know if it's the blower fuse you guys are talking
>> about, because I don't know what it was called. It was a strip of
>> metal not encased in plastic or anything...in other words, just a
>> strip of thin metal between two screws; and, mine was completely burnt
>> away. I theorized that the poor old a/c was working so hard in the
>> excessive heat, that it literally blew the fuse. Anyway, if you're
>> standing at the driver's side fender looking at the fuse box, look
>> just past it to the vertical "wall" that is behind the engine but
>> forward of the firewall. I think the fuse is under some sort of
>> cover, but mine never had the cover.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Paul Samarin
>> Whose 500 SL is not quite the car the SEC was, but it's fun nonetheless.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Henry Viveiros wrote:
>>
>>> Well Mike, I popped the cover and found that the lead strip was
>>> partially
>>> separated - not quite broken through, but certainly damaged. I
>>> suppose I'll
>>> have to wait until the dealership opens on Monday.
>>>
>>> How strange - the blowers work if the car is not too hot from being
>>> parked
>>> in the sun, and after the windows are open for a while (just a few
>>> minutes)
>>> they will work again. I hope the blower fuse will solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Mike.
>>> <winmail.dat>The MB Coupes Website!
>>> W126 SEC Mailing List
>>> Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
>>
>> The MB Coupes Website!
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>>
> Just a thought guys on the metal strip. Could it be that the heat
> escalation in the sun is sufficient enough to expand the metal in that
> "fuse" and cause it to open or separate the circuit? Ask someone to
> help you with a little test. Turn on the ignition switch and jump it
> with a pair of alligator clips and a length of wire just to see if it
> kicks on or use a hairpin and rubber handled pliers to hold it to
> complete the circuit for a split second just to confirm? It might point
> you in the right direction and.I don't think merely making the
> connection for a split second will have any negative result or damage
> any circuits. Good luck.
>
> Doug
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 06:18:20 -0700
> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Something about this fuse that it tends to blow on Friday evening, right
> after the parts department closes.
>
> Anyway, I went to the local parts store and bought a 30 amp spade fuse
> (U.S.
> variety) and the socket for it with a short amount of wire. Removed the MB
> metal fuse pieces and put the wires from the fuse socket under the screws
> for the MB fuse. Put an MB fuse in a week or two later.
>
> Later,
> Mike R.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 10:06:06 EDT
> From: AudFats at aol.com
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> Good morning Coupesters,
> A little off topic here, yet I want to offer the group before the unwashed
> public. We have some sheetmetal here that we need to clear out of
> inventory. The
> vehicle of question for this letter is a 1993 600 SEC. We've got the
> records
> (ouch) for this beast all the way back to the sticker. She's truly the top
> of
> the food chain. You wait for no body on the Interstate with this one. Very
> nice ride with plenty of guts.
> Feel free to contact me directly. I'll send photos and info. Car is
> located
> on the West Coast of Florida. (Clearwater)
> I thank you all for your time.
> Hopefully I'll be keeping the W126 through this little bump in life.
>
> Motor on.
> Respectfully,
>
> Paul Niesen
> audfats at aol.com
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 07:41:15 -0700
> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Gee Whiz Paul - I hope you didn't get rid of the SEC just because the
> blower
> fuse went out !
>
> Hey Doug - I'll try jumping the fuse this afternoon (the car has to be
> closed up and parked in the sun) and will let you know what happens.
>
> The fuse has to be replaced anyway. The metal (lead?) is much more soft
> than
> I would expect it to be. There was some material like the white fuzz that
> sometimes develops at a battery post on one of the link attaching screws.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 07:43:37 -0700
> From: "Henry Viveiros" <henryviv at grantspass.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Climate Control Fuse ?
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <DIEEJBPFJEBGDLPHLANAAEPOCNAA.henryviv at grantspass.net>
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> Thanks Mike - I'll try that until I get the correct part.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:25:01 +0200
> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
> a Gimmick?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20060807122503.AC8BC3DAB at ctb-mesg4.saix.net>
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>
> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
> conventional suspension system.
>
>
>
> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>
>
>
> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten the
> Springs
>
> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:15:15 -0700
> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the
> 380SEC a Gimmick?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> If you have an exceptionally hard ride in the back and your mechanic is
> telling you that you need to new rear shocks, there are two things you
> need
> to do immediately:
>
> 1. fire the mechanic, he has no idea what he's doing.
> 2. replace the self-leveling hydraulic accumulators under the back of
> the car (~$120 each), a DIY job. While you're at it, replace the rubber
> bushings on the top of the rear hydraulic rams (the shock absorber looking
> things).
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D
> <http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D&dr
> illid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsguru
>>
> &drillid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsg
> uru
>
>
>
>
>
> Later,
>
> Mike R.
>
> (702) 494-8056
>
> _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Kivendren Moodliyar
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:25 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
> aGimmick?
>
>
>
> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
> conventional suspension system.
>
>
>
> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>
>
>
> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten the
> Springs
>
> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:31:44 -0700
> From: Jim Ham <jimham at porcine.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
> 380SEC a Gimmick?
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060807092544.01ad7850 at porcine.com>
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> Why do you think you need new "shocks"? As Mike says, the things that look
> like shocks are not in the Mercedes system. Even the Mercedes manual
> states
> that seepage from the rams is normal. I personally wouldn't consider
> replacing them unless they are dripping on the floor of the garage.
> Remember that in a real shock you have only a few CCs of fluid placed in
> there by the factory - once leaked out it's gone. With your rams you have
> all the fluid in the hydraulic reservoir to replenish any seepage.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Ham
>
> At 05:25 AM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
>
>>This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
>>shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
>>proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
>>conventional suspension system.
>>
>>
>>
>>Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
>>please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
>>car at all times regardless of the Load.
>>
>>
>>
>>Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten the
>>Springs
>>
>>Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>>
>>
>>
>>Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:37:58 -0700
> From: "clay" <benzman3 at cox.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] MARK DeFRANCO
> To: "mbcoupes" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Mark,
> Recieved part on saturday, thanks for taking care of me. I understand
> there could be problems with the car in Las Vegas and you in San
> Francisco, that's alot of traveling just to strip a car.
> Regards, Clay
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:23:50 -0400
> From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
> To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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>
> Can it be safely assumed that all parts in the area of the brakes (such as
> the speed sensors for the ABS) can be safely cleaned with brake parts
> cleaner?
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:19:47 -0700
> From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV11FB1D3C6F9AD5B737F048BD540 at phx.gbl>
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> Avoid the brake lines, rims/tires, and overspray onto the body and
> wheelwells.
>
> Eddie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Shayegan, Richard
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:24 PM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brake cleaner safety?
>
>
> Can it be safely assumed that all parts in the area of the brakes (such as
> the speed sensors for the ABS) can be safely cleaned with brake parts
> cleaner?
> Thanks,
> Richard
> The MB Coupes Website!
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:25:19 -0400
> From: "Gary Green" <Gary at EverGreen-Systems.COM>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <000c01c6ba81$217c2750$6801a8c0 at D6LJYC61>
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> Would you care to share the particulars?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> If you wish, you can email me offline.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of AudFats at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 10:06 AM
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] SEC W140 Sale
>
>
>
> Good morning Coupesters,
> A little off topic here, yet I want to offer the group before the unwashed
> public. We have some sheetmetal here that we need to clear out of
> inventory.
> The vehicle of question for this letter is a 1993 600 SEC. We've got the
> records (ouch) for this beast all the way back to the sticker. She's truly
> the top of the food chain. You wait for no body on the Interstate with
> this
> one. Very nice ride with plenty of guts.
> Feel free to contact me directly. I'll send photos and info. Car is
> located
> on the West Coast of Florida. (Clearwater)
> I thank you all for your time.
> Hopefully I'll be keeping the W126 through this little bump in life.
>
> Motor on.
> Respectfully,
>
> Paul Niesen
> audfats at aol.com
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Hovsep Dovlatian <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
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> Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
> fit on an
> 84 Euro 500SEC???
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:58:29 -0700
> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> yes
>
>
>>From: Hovsep Dovlatian <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>fit
>>on an
>>84 Euro 500SEC???
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
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>>countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:42:54 +0100
> From: "Vance Rowley" <vance.rowley at tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
> 380SEC aGimmick?
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <003a01c6bab5$e10cfed0$4101a8c0 at toshibauser>
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>
> The SLS system a Gimmick? I can say with absolute confidence and
> experience, absolutely not. In fact I can attest to what a superb and
> practical system it actually is. Especially after driving from Greece to
> the UK in my 1991 Euro 560 SEC a few years back. The car was loaded up to
> the hilt. The trunk completely full to the brim and the back passenger
> well and seats loaded up with just enough room for view through the rear
> screen. In fact even the front passenger well and seat was loaded up as
> well with just enough room for me behind the steering wheel. Not only did
> the system allow to drive at 160MPH on the German autobahns with the car
> being completely level, but it was as smooth as silk with great handling.
>
> However I can understand what you are experiencing if you are getting a
> rough ride from the rear at the moment, as I had exactly the same symptoms
> about 3 months before my long journey.It was worse than driving on a
> cobbled road and as hard as a rock (from the rear only). It turned out
> that all it was, was the "bombs" as they are nicknamed needed
> replacing.From your description, it sounds to me like you have the same
> problem. It was a cheap and quick job and after these were replaced it was
> like riding on air again. So as to your comment on the SLS system giving a
> harder ride is concerned, I would say absolutely not and would strongly
> advise not to remove the SLS or modify the rear suspension system in any
> way. Just have the "bombs" replaced. You will find the difference is like
> chalk and cheese. I had mine done at a MB agent in Greece, but if you are
> a DIYer, I think there is a write up somewhere in the archives.
>
> I hope this sways you to make the right decision.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Vance.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kivendren Moodliyar
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:25 PM
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
> aGimmick?
>
>
> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
> conventional suspension system.
>
>
>
> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>
>
>
> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten
> the Springs
>
> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:24:04 +0200
> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the
> 380SEC aGimmick?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20060808082440.155B82A0B at ctb-mesg7.saix.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Ha ha ha.. That was funny.
>
>
>
> Mike, this Mechanic helped sort out my idling by completely modyfying the
> idling valve in the Engine with a screw that we can adjust. This seemed to
> help the car from that rough idle as well as stalling.
>
>
>
> I think the Mech wanted to go for the Normal Shock Absorbers & tighten the
> springs due the factr that new shock on this car is so expensive. No you
> telling me about the self levelling hydraulic accumulators under the back
> of
> t car. The mech also made mention that we have to change the rear bush
> mountings.
>
>
>
> Whats the difference between the SLS hydraulic shocks and the hydraulic
> accumulators?
>
> And
>
> Is this rear bushes the same as the rubber bushings you made mention of in
> the e-mail below? Cos if it is this is going to cost R2000 from MB, for
> the
> kit.
>
>
>
> Is there some sort of way we can test the rear suspension and check why I
> am
> losing the hydraulic fluid (not forgetting the leaking hydraulic fluid
> container) as well as test to see all other rear suspension parts.
>
>
>
> Ever so grateful
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>
> _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Mike R.
> Sent: 07 August 2006 05:15 PM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Leveling Suspension on the 380SEC
> aGimmick?
>
>
>
> If you have an exceptionally hard ride in the back and your mechanic is
> telling you that you need to new rear shocks, there are two things you
> need
> to do immediately:
>
> 1. fire the mechanic, he has no idea what he's doing.
> 2. replace the self-leveling hydraulic accumulators under the back of
> the car (~$120 each), a DIY job. While you're at it, replace the rubber
> bushings on the top of the rear hydraulic rams (the shock absorber looking
> things).
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D
> <http://www.autopartsguru.com/epcvsoapimc.epc?cookieID=1Q10MRPPU1V90O0U6D&dr
> illid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsguru
>>
> &drillid=8&subcatid=801051@@Hydraulics%2F+Air+Suspension&clientid=autopartsg
> uru
>
>
>
>
>
> Later,
>
> Mike R.
>
> (702) 494-8056
>
> _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Kivendren Moodliyar
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:25 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the 380SEC
> aGimmick?
>
>
>
> This system is a lot more expensive to maintain for now I need two new
> shocks in the rear. This is amounting to R3000 ($500) each. I have a
> proposal to completely remove the SLS from this SEC & put a normal
> conventional suspension system.
>
>
>
> Apparently the SLS as opposed to Air Shocks gives a much harder drive,
> please correct me if I am wrong but the SLS served for only balancing the
> car at all times regardless of the Load.
>
>
>
> Do you think I should modify my SEC with Normal Suspension and Tighten the
> Springs
>
> Cost of this is estimated at R6000 ($1000)
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>
>
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:32:19 +0200
> From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20060808083227.6546E23BC at ctb-mesg3.saix.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Im sure the Grill will fit, not sure about the Fenders though
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>
> _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Hovsep Dovlatian
> Sent: 08 August 2006 06:14 AM
> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>
>
>
> Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
> fit
> on an
> 84 Euro 500SEC???
>
>
>
> _____
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:09:23 -0500
> From: "DW" <dwgriff at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Was the Self Levelling Suspension on the
> 380SECaGimmick?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <002901c6bb3f$b06cec60$210110ac at DANAWANA>
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>
> Definitely not a gimmick. But remember, on your car he actually has
> leveling on all four wheels! Here in the States most everyone has
> experience with rear-leveling only. I agree that it is probably the
> bombs,
> (of which there are four!), but don't jump to conclusions about your
> mechanic. He might know more about this than most Americans. I
> understand
> that this was a very rare option on the US spec cars. Tell me, does yours
> have the pull-knob next to the headlamp switch? And the corresponding
> dash
> indicator?
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:35:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Elm Zobens <elm at ameritech.net>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] 126 Dash Pad
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <20060809023532.42466.qmail at web81613.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
> I just purchased a used dash pad for my 86' 560 SEC. Of course I should
> have asked this sooner but will a dash pad from a 91' (air bag) fit an 86'
> (glove box) without major surgery?
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Elm Zobens
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:42:51 -0700
> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <BAY20-F20D2CC488C953DAD337B5DA4550 at phx.gbl>
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>
> The fenders will fit also.
>
>
>>From: "Kivendren Moodliyar" <kivendren at telkomsa.net>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:32:19 +0200
>>
>>Im sure the Grill will fit, not sure about the Fenders though
>>
>>
>>
>>Kindest Regards : Kivendren Moodliyar '83 380SEC
>>
>> _____
>>
>>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>>On Behalf Of Hovsep Dovlatian
>>Sent: 08 August 2006 06:14 AM
>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Body Question???
>>
>>
>>
>>Hey guys just a quick Q will the fenders and the grill of an 83 380SEC
>>fit
>>on an
>>84 Euro 500SEC???
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
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>><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman1/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt
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>>countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:13:39 -0500
> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <44D952E3.4060708 at houston.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
> some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
> included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
> used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>
> Doug
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:14:17 -0700
> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <BAY20-F13CD4E12BBC988216F544BA4550 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>
> My wife has a 300E 1987. Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
> working (Becker). I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure how
> to
> get the radio out.
>
> No problem with the SEC, have had the radio and climate control module out
> a
> few times. Anyone had experience with a 300E? or a site similar to this
> mbcoupes that deals with these cars?
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
> From: jralex at ix.netcom.com
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID:
> <6606816.1155106504963.JavaMail.root at elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Doug, Use 3M #08088 General Trim Adhesive for the hood pad. I bought mine
> at Advance Auto. This is what my MB mechanic uses also. Go to
> mbcoupes.com, W126,archives,search engine and type hood pad for past
> discussions and help with tecniques. Jim Alexander
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>Sent: Aug 8, 2006 11:13 PM
>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>
>>Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>>some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
>>included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>>used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>
>>Doug
>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0500
> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <44D9DFDD.6040101 at landiss.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> on 8/9/2006 1:14 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>
>> My wife has a 300E 1987. Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>> working (Becker). I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure
>> how to get the radio out.
>
> <http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/213/45/>
>
> <http://www.shareamemory.com/radio/removal.htm>
>
>
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
> or predatory poverty." --Joseph Pulitzer
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:26:20 -0500
> From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
> To: jralex at ix.netcom.com, Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <44D9FE9C.9090503 at houston.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> jralex at ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
>>Doug, Use 3M #08088 General Trim Adhesive for the hood pad. I bought mine
>>at Advance Auto. This is what my MB mechanic uses also. Go to
>>mbcoupes.com, W126,archives,search engine and type hood pad for past
>>discussions and help with tecniques. Jim Alexander
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>>From: Doug Gavin <dlg64 at houston.rr.com>
>>>Sent: Aug 8, 2006 11:13 PM
>>>To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
>>>Subject: [W126 Coupe] Hood pad insulation installation
>>>
>>>Hi all, I just received my new *Hood Insulation* for my 560. I expected
>>>some installation instructions in regard to the proper adhesive but none
>>>included. Can anyone suggest a tried and true adhesive that they have
>>>used for the foam waffle pad? Thanks
>>>
>>>Doug
>>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>W126 SEC Mailing List
>>Postings remain property of MB Coupes, L.L.C.
>>
>>
>>
> Jim, thanks for the advice and the part number. This is an excellent
> forum and I appreciate what I've learned in just the last two weeks from
> the members.
>
> Doug
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:33:16 -0700
> From: "Stephen ." <stephenleslie at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> Message-ID: <BAY20-F12616CD3442CAB40FF3339A4550 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> Thanks Dan, but these radios don't appear to have the same clips or holes
> in
> the radio face for releasing them. The radio in the 300E is identical to
> the one in my 380SEC. What am I missing?
>
>
>>From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
>>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:15:09 -0500
>>
>>on 8/9/2006 1:14 AM Stephen . wrote:
>>>
>>>My wife has a 300E 1987. Shes getting all shirty about the radio not
>>>working (Becker). I have a Blauplunkt to replace it but can't figure how
>>>to get the radio out.
>>
>><http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/213/45/>
>>
>><http://www.shareamemory.com/radio/removal.htm>
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
>> or predatory poverty." --Joseph Pulitzer
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>
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> Message: 29
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:44:07 -0500
> From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Off Topic
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <44DA10D7.9080901 at landiss.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> on 8/9/2006 11:33 AM Stephen . wrote:
>> Thanks Dan, but these radios don't appear to have the same clips or
>> holes in the radio face for releasing them. The radio in the 300E is
>> identical to the one in my 380SEC. What am I missing?
>
> Maybe yours uses tools shaped like these:
>
> <http://www.tss-radio.com/mercedes-audi-radio-removal-tools-p-316.html>
> <http://www.addacdchanger.co.uk/Mercedes_Radio_Removal_Tool>
> <http://www.pro-fit-intl.com/mercedes.html>
> <http://www.sirius-radio-satellite.com/browseproducts/Radio-Removal-Tools-for-Mercedes-and-Audi.HTML>
>
> The last link sells them for $7.50/pair, or you could try making your
> own. Or a local shop might remove it for a six-pack of beer?
>
>
>
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> "Never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy
> or predatory poverty." --Joseph Pulitzer
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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