[W126 COUPE] Headlamp Wiper Non Stop Spray

Montgomery, Richard "Rick" rick.montgomery at slugger.com
Wed Sep 28 09:53:48 EDT 2005


Yes I had already disconnected the front headlamps from the resovoir.
All grommets and resovoir are new so no chance of damaging those.  Ok
I'll look into that one pump then I guess.

Thanks Dick

Rick

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Today's Topics:

   1. Headlamp Wipers Constant Spray (Montgomery, Richard "Rick")
   2. RE: went to dyno (Eddie)
   3. Re: Headlamp Wipers Constant Spray (Dick Spellman)
   4. Re: went to dyno (Jymiejam at aol.com)
   5. Subject: RE: Subject: [W126 Coupe] Self Leveling hydraulic
      pump	remedy.... (bruce tranter)
   6. RE: Subject: RE: Subject: [W126 Coupe] Self Leveling
      hydraulic	pumpremedy.... (mramay at att.biz)
   7. Re: went to dyno (airedale at sbcglobal.net)
   8. Re: went to dyno (Dan Landiss)
   9. Sam's car before photos (Shayegan, Richard)
  10. Re: went to dyno (airedale at sbcglobal.net)
  11. Re: Brakes (Satish Tummala)
  12. Re: Driving Lights (Iain Gunn)
  13. Re: Headlamp Wipers Constant Spray (Iain Gunn)
  14. Re: went to dyno (Iain Gunn)
  15. Re: went to dyno (Hein)
  16. Re: went to dyno (Attila)


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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:25:27 -0700
From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
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I would love to get a scan of that if you have time.  The scans I have
right now are black and white, and kinda muddy.

I'd appreciate it if you can send it over to gdrakon at gmail.com

Thanks,

 

Eddie

 

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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of airedale at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:50 AM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno

 

Eddie,

Back to your original question:

 

"The projected power figures almost exactly match the amg 117 5.6 SOHC
engine with tubular headers (but i am running euro 4 piece cast manifold
still). so....does anyone know what was renntech's advertised hp and
torque for the 6.0? What other modifications did AMG do to the 5.6 SOHC
besides cams and headers?"

 

I have a Motor Trend Road Test dated August 1987 titled:

Mercedes - Benz

560SEC AMG

Four cams and 32 valves equals high performance for high dollars

 

Could that be of any value to you? If so I will scan and post here if
possible or send to you. In fact this article I purchased on eBay is an
extra as I bought a book of reviews that includes it. If you wanted the
original for better photo quality you or anyone else interested could
have it for the $4.50 I paid plus postage.

The article mentions 5953 cc

375 HP @ 5500 rpm

407 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

 

Best,

John

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno

 

Thanks Eddie,

I tend to agree with you as the book was published in the UK. The only
other place I saw the 272 HP figure mentioned was in another book
article in conjunction with the European Kat model as you mention.
Thanks, this is one less thing that I have to ponder.

Best Wishes,

John

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Eddie <mailto:cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>  

To: 'Mercedes <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists' 

Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:37 PM

Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno

 

There are several possible reasons for the higher HP and torque figure,
but most likely the editor got the engine's mixed up and thought the US
engines are the same as Euro engines with Kats.  In fact, Euro engines
with emission controls are still more powerful than US because of higher
compression ratio (which was specified after some of the initial
technical specs were published).  The US engines had lower compression
because during the initial release period the US fuel still varied too
much and could cause knock/ping/pre-ignition.  Same problem in Australia
I believe.

 

Any other sources listing the higher HP?  Several people have dyno-ed
stock engines for our cars and they all come out to about 200 hp (varies
between 190 and 205).  My engine is FAR from stock.  As a matter of
fact, every time I do any major work on my car I find something else
that has been modified (which means I have to buy more expensive
parts)...for example last time I had the front shocks changed I
discovered to my horror Bilstein HDs are not the same as the blue
striped ones (AMG) I had in the car..which the shop had already thrown
out.

 

The previous owner didn't even have any idea as to what had gone into
the car and didn't keep much paperwork.  He just threw money at the car,
and got tired of it in the early 90s when this model was replaced (at
24k miles).
Plus he raced porsches.

 

Eddie

 


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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of airedale at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:13 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno

 

The book I refer to is:

Mercedes - Benz since 1945.

Volume 4: The 1980's.

A collector's guide

by James Taylor

This book can be found on the MBCOA website.

 

This is the quote I find on page 38 and there is at least one other
mention of higher horsepower and torque in the book.

 

" In the USA, for example, the emissions - controlled 5.6 - liter engine
was down to 272 bhp from the 300 bhp of its European equivalent. The
difference was academic, though: even the 272 bhp engine was much more
powerful than anyone needed in a country with a blanket 55 mph speed
limit ! "

 

Later in the book while discussing various engines this is the
description of the 560 SEL/SEC

 

" 5,547 cc, 96.5 x 94.8 mm, V8 - cyl OHC, type M117. Bosch fuel
injection.
300 bhp at 5,000 rpm; 325 lb.ft at 3,750 rpm ( non - US models. ) 272
bhp at 5,000 rpm; 307 lb.ft at 3,750 rpm ( US models. ) "

 

I have wanted to bring this forward for some time and since you seem to
have actual proof this seems like a good time. I am interested in any
comments.

Best Wishes,

John

 

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From: Eddie <mailto:cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>  

To: 'Mercedes <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists' 

Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:08 AM

Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno

 

The stock California( 50-state, federal, etcetera) 560 sends exactly 200
hp to the rear wheels.  Taking off cats and installing headers gives you
about
25 hp.  I have other modifications.

 

Eddie

 


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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of airedale at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:26 PM
To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno

 

I am curious the year & model of W126 you have please? I have a book I
bought through the MBCOA that states the US version 560 is actually more
horsepower than the 238 or so that is advertised.

Thanks,

John

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Eddie <mailto:cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>  

To: 'Mercedes <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists' 

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 8:29 PM

Subject: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno

 

Well finally got to a dynojet, interesting results...

RWHP= 256.1
RWTQ= 298.22

so using standard conversions for drive train power loss gives me:

HP= 299.6 -> 309.9
TQ= 348.9 -> 360.8

Note, this was with oversize (heavy) rims, and reinforced clutches in
the transmission. So that means my drivetrain losses may have been
higher or lower compared to normal calculations.

The projected power figures almost exactly match the amg 117 5.6 SOHC
engine with tubular headers (but i am running euro 4 peice cast manifold
still).
so....does anyone know what was renntech's advertised hp and torque for
the 6.0? What other modifications did AMG do to the 5.6 SOHC besides
cams and headers?

 

Eddie


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:58:44 -0400
From: "Dick Spellman" <spell.yy at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headlamp Wipers Constant Spray
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Check the two electric pumps at the base of the fluid reservoir.  One
for windscreen the other for the headlamps to see if one is somehow
getting juice all the time.  You can unplug the electrical connection to
the headlamp pump and still leave the windscreen operable until you
determine the cause of continuous operation.

Be careful not to disturb these pumps as they are seated into the
plastic reservoir.  The rubber grommets tend to dry out and will leak if
you move the pump too much.

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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:28:25 EDT
From: Jymiejam at aol.com
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
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WHERE CAN ONE ACQUIRE HEADERS FROM FOR A  EURO 500 SEC?
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:07:07 -0400
From: "bruce tranter" <cousinbruce at hotmail.com>
Subject: Subject: RE: Subject: [W126 Coupe] Self Leveling hydraulic
	pump	remedy....
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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Hi Mike,
I will take another look but it does look like the pump itself.
I wonder if a hydraulics shop would be of any assistance if it is the
pump leaking.
Bruce
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:44:48 -0400
From: "mramay at att.biz" <mramay at att.biz>
leakSubject: RE: Subject: [W126 Coupe] Self Leveling hydraulic pump
	remedy....
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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Bruce,
Bob Cavazos just put in a new hydraulic line from that pump. That was
his leak - it wasn't the pump. Are you sure the pump is leaking???

Mike R.

Original Message:
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From: bruce tranter cousinbruce at hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:46:37 -0400
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: Subject: [W126 Coupe] Self Leveling hydraulic pump leak
remedy....


Has anyone rebuilt this pump for the suspension?
My pump is leaking and would like to correct it without putting in a new
pump.
Thanks
Bruce

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:53:44 -0400
From: "mramay at att.biz" <mramay at att.biz>
Subject: RE: Subject: RE: Subject: [W126 Coupe] Self Leveling
	hydraulic	pumpremedy....
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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Bruce,
These pumps seem to last forever. If yours is one of the very few that
went
bad, I'd just go to a salvage yard and get one off an SEL or SEC. The
hydraulic shop could help if it's a bad line, but doubt they'd be much
help
with that little pump. Give me a call if you need to replace the pump or
line and I'll give you Bob C's phone number as he just did it.

Mike R.

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From: bruce tranter cousinbruce at hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:07:07 -0400
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: Subject: RE: Subject: [W126 Coupe] Self Leveling hydraulic
pumpremedy....


Hi Mike,
I will take another look but it does look like the pump itself.
I wonder if a hydraulics shop would be of any assistance if it is the
pump 
leaking.
Bruce


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:42:22 -0500
From: <airedale at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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The article ( two pages ) is black & white. Hope you have a high speed
connection, I will scan and send at high resolution this P.M. I
appreciated your detailed & knowledgeable response to my question.
Best,
John 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eddie 
  To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno


  I would love to get a scan of that if you have time.  The scans I have
right now are black and white, and kinda muddy.

  I'd appreciate it if you can send it over to gdrakon at gmail.com

  Thanks,



  Eddie




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  From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of
airedale at sbcglobal.net
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:50 AM
  To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno



  Eddie,

  Back to your original question:



  "The projected power figures almost exactly match the amg 117 5.6 SOHC
engine with tubular headers (but i am running euro 4 piece cast manifold
still). so....does anyone know what was renntech's advertised hp and
torque for the 6.0? What other modifications did AMG do to the 5.6 SOHC
besides cams and headers?"



  I have a Motor Trend Road Test dated August 1987 titled:

  Mercedes - Benz

  560SEC AMG

  Four cams and 32 valves equals high performance for high dollars



  Could that be of any value to you? If so I will scan and post here if
possible or send to you. In fact this article I purchased on eBay is an
extra as I bought a book of reviews that includes it. If you wanted the
original for better photo quality you or anyone else interested could
have it for the $4.50 I paid plus postage.

  The article mentions 5953 cc

  375 HP @ 5500 rpm

  407 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm



  Best,

  John



    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: airedale at sbcglobal.net 

    To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 

    Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:09 AM

    Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno



    Thanks Eddie,

    I tend to agree with you as the book was published in the UK. The
only other place I saw the 272 HP figure mentioned was in another book
article in conjunction with the European Kat model as you mention.
Thanks, this is one less thing that I have to ponder.

    Best Wishes,

    John

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Eddie 

      To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' 

      Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:37 PM

      Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno



      There are several possible reasons for the higher HP and torque
figure, but most likely the editor got the engine's mixed up and thought
the US engines are the same as Euro engines with Kats.  In fact, Euro
engines with emission controls are still more powerful than US because
of higher compression ratio (which was specified after some of the
initial technical specs were published).  The US engines had lower
compression because during the initial release period the US fuel still
varied too much and could cause knock/ping/pre-ignition.  Same problem
in Australia I believe.



      Any other sources listing the higher HP?  Several people have
dyno-ed stock engines for our cars and they all come out to about 200 hp
(varies between 190 and 205).  My engine is FAR from stock.  As a matter
of fact, every time I do any major work on my car I find something else
that has been modified (which means I have to buy more expensive
parts)...for example last time I had the front shocks changed I
discovered to my horror Bilstein HDs are not the same as the blue
striped ones (AMG) I had in the car..which the shop had already thrown
out.



      The previous owner didn't even have any idea as to what had gone
into the car and didn't keep much paperwork.  He just threw money at the
car, and got tired of it in the early 90s when this model was replaced
(at 24k miles).  Plus he raced porsches.



      Eddie




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      From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of
airedale at sbcglobal.net
      Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:13 PM
      To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
      Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno



      The book I refer to is:

      Mercedes - Benz since 1945.

      Volume 4: The 1980's.

      A collector's guide

      by James Taylor

      This book can be found on the MBCOA website.



      This is the quote I find on page 38 and there is at least one
other mention of higher horsepower and torque in the book.



      " In the USA, for example, the emissions - controlled 5.6 - liter
engine was down to 272 bhp from the 300 bhp of its European equivalent.
The difference was academic, though: even the 272 bhp engine was much
more powerful than anyone needed in a country with a blanket 55 mph
speed limit ! "



      Later in the book while discussing various engines this is the
description of the 560 SEL/SEC



      " 5,547 cc, 96.5 x 94.8 mm, V8 - cyl OHC, type M117. Bosch fuel
injection. 300 bhp at 5,000 rpm; 325 lb.ft at 3,750 rpm ( non - US
models. ) 272 bhp at 5,000 rpm; 307 lb.ft at 3,750 rpm ( US models. ) "



      I have wanted to bring this forward for some time and since you
seem to have actual proof this seems like a good time. I am interested
in any comments.

      Best Wishes,

      John



        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Eddie 

        To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' 

        Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:08 AM

        Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno



        The stock California( 50-state, federal, etcetera) 560 sends
exactly 200 hp to the rear wheels.  Taking off cats and installing
headers gives you about 25 hp.  I have other modifications.



        Eddie




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        From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of
airedale at sbcglobal.net
        Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:26 PM
        To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
        Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno



        I am curious the year & model of W126 you have please? I have a
book I bought through the MBCOA that states the US version 560 is
actually more horsepower than the 238 or so that is advertised.

        Thanks,

        John

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Eddie 

          To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists' 

          Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 8:29 PM

          Subject: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno



          Well finally got to a dynojet, interesting results...

          RWHP= 256.1
          RWTQ= 298.22

          so using standard conversions for drive train power loss gives
me:

          HP= 299.6 -> 309.9
          TQ= 348.9 -> 360.8

          Note, this was with oversize (heavy) rims, and reinforced
clutches in the transmission. So that means my drivetrain losses may
have been higher or lower compared to normal calculations.

          The projected power figures almost exactly match the amg 117
5.6 SOHC engine with tubular headers (but i am running euro 4 peice cast
manifold still). so....does anyone know what was renntech's advertised
hp and torque for the 6.0? What other modifications did AMG do to the
5.6 SOHC besides cams and headers?



          Eddie


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:45:17 -0500
From: Dan Landiss <dan at landiss.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
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airedale at sbcglobal.net wrote:

> I have a Motor Trend Road Test dated August 1987 titled:
> *Mercedes - Benz*
> *560SEC AMG*
> *Four cams and 32 valves equals high performance for high dollars*

That, and others, at <http://landiss.info/mbz/560scans.htm>

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:46:38 -0400
From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Sam's car before photos
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These are the before the brake upgrade photos of Sam's car. Those wheels
look awesome, though I think with those wheels and a black body the car
would benefit by having the bumpers, lower panels, and grill (not the
chrome parts of course) painted black.

http://Davidson.smugmug.com/gallery/841958/1/37766688 

Richard

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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Sam Sisic
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 2:39 PM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] RE: Brakes

Richard,

Thank you for the offer... That is a cool site and wicked to boot!! :-)
Nice 126 SE...
I especially like the soccer photos which I couldn't view. Maybe I could
get the password someday.
I will be in contact with you about posting some photos on the SEC brake
project.
Thanks again!

Sam


Eddie,

I may have been misunderstood... I am not literally working with Daryl
on the fabrication of the brake system... I am simply purchasing the
system from Daryl's company. By working with him I meant verbally
defining the system specifics and educating myself in the process.
Thank you for the offer of hosting my photos... I may take you up on
that if Richard manages to piss me off. HA!

Sam
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 20:57:08 -0400
From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] RE: Brakes
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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I could also host your pictures on a wicked cool site like
http://www.davidson.smugmug.com. Not that I'm plugging that site for any
particular reason or anything like that (actually, come to think of it
I'm not, the photos that anybody has any likelihood of buying, I am
contractually obligated not to show you).
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Eddie
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 7:40 PM
To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] RE: Brakes

I can host your pictures.  Are you willing to share the info for making
the
brackets?

Eddie

-----Original Message-----
From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Sam Sisic
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:39 AM
To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [W126 Coupe] RE: Brakes

That is correct...

I'm working with Daryl on a 14" brake system, drilled and slotted with
Wilwood 4 piston calipers. As these fit nicely in an 18" wheel, they
will upgrade the braking about 40% by the sheer rotor size increase
alone... Not to mention, they should look great through an open BBS RA
type wheel.
Once I have them on the SEC, I will share my opinions along with photos
if someone will help me post them on a site.

Sam
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:29:04 -0700
From: "Daryl Armstrong" <daryl at precisionbrakescompany.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Brakes
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Hi,

Sam is in the process of upgrading his brakes, maybe he has some input.

Daryl.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hovsep Dovlatian" <hovsepdov at yahoo.com>
To: <MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brakes


> Has Anyone ever upgraded the brakes on their SEC. I
> was thinking of adapting the brakes on the CL65 to fit
> my SEC.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:49:47 -0500
From: <airedale at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <004301c5c3ad$61808ba0$210110ac at JCH>
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I like the two photos on your site.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Landiss 
  To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno


  airedale at sbcglobal.net wrote: 
    I have a Motor Trend Road Test dated August 1987 titled:
    Mercedes - Benz
    560SEC AMG
    Four cams and 32 valves equals high performance for high dollars
  That, and others, at <http://landiss.info/mbz/560scans.htm>

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:19:01 -0400
From: "Satish Tummala" <satish at tummala.net>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Brakes
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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CL65 brakes and calipers are $7000+

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eddie" <cyberdrakon at hotmail.com>
To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Brakes


> Wait a minute, how are you going to get CL65 brakes?  I'd like some!
>
> Eddie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Hovsep Dovlatian
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:46 PM
> To: MBCOUPES at mbcoupes.com
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Brakes
>
> Has Anyone ever upgraded the brakes on their SEC. I
> was thinking of adapting the brakes on the CL65 to fit
> my SEC.
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:56:09 -0400
From: "Iain Gunn" <igunn at bmts.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Driving Lights
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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4509 GE aircraft landing lights,100 watt 13.5 volt . been using them for

over 20 years, bloody fantastic. wide flat beam, lights up the ditches
and 
fields, I see the deer before they see me. About $20 each. You want the
big 
ones #4537

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Driving Lights


>I think you'd be better off just wiring in a new set of Cibie driving
> lights on the the bumper. Maybe something like the Cibie Turini -
lights
> up the road 900 meters in front of your...just don't have them on
> anywhere near any other cars. I can't think of any driving lights that
> fit in the factory fog slot, though maybe the Cibie airport's might,
but
> it won't be a perfect fit. Plus that only lights up for 360 meters.
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of jack emery
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:36 AM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Driving Lights
>
> I would like to replace the fog lights in my '86 420 with a pair of
high
>
> powered driving lights so that I can see the kangaroos on our country
> roads
> at night. Impacting a big red boomer hopping across the road when
doing
> 80
> mph can destroy the front of a car.
> Has anyone made this conversion? I would like to know which model
light
> fits
> & how to set it up to point straight ahead.
> Jack OZ
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:00:20 -0400
From: "Iain Gunn" <igunn at bmts.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headlamp Wipers Constant Spray
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <009501c5c3bf$9e38ce60$6401a8c0 at Thguns>
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The only time that mine work is when the headlights are on, which leads
me to think that there is a relay in the system that is stuck on. 
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick Spellman 
  To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Headlamp Wipers Constant Spray


  Check the two electric pumps at the base of the fluid reservoir.  One
for windscreen the other for the headlamps to see if one is somehow
getting juice all the time.  You can unplug the electrical connection to
the headlamp pump and still leave the windscreen operable until you
determine the cause of continuous operation.

  Be careful not to disturb these pumps as they are seated into the
plastic reservoir.  The rubber grommets tend to dry out and will leak if
you move the pump too much.

  Dick


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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:01:41 -0400
From: "Iain Gunn" <igunn at bmts.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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Why are you yelling at us in big blue letters? We can hear you just fine
in a normal tone of letter.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jymiejam at aol.com 
  To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno


  WHERE CAN ONE ACQUIRE HEADERS FROM FOR A EURO 500 SEC?


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:44:53 -0230
From: "Hein" <hein.o at nf.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <008301c5c3c1$a69934d0$2c89fea9 at Dogbolter>
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:-))))
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Iain Gunn 
  To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno


  Why are you yelling at us in big blue letters? We can hear you just
fine in a normal tone of letter.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jymiejam at aol.com 
    To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:28 PM
    Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno


    WHERE CAN ONE ACQUIRE HEADERS FROM FOR A EURO 500 SEC?


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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:54:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
From: "Attila" <attila at corlink.com>
Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] went to dyno
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