[W126 Coupe] went to dyno

airedale at sbcglobal.net airedale at sbcglobal.net
Mon Sep 26 23:12:33 EDT 2005


The book I refer to is:
Mercedes - Benz since 1945.
Volume 4: The 1980's.
A collector's guide
by James Taylor
This book can be found on the MBCOA website.

This is the quote I find on page 38 and there is at least one other mention of higher horsepower and torque in the book.

" In the USA, for example, the emissions - controlled 5.6 - liter engine was down to 272 bhp from the 300 bhp of its European equivalent. The difference was academic, though: even the 272 bhp engine was much more powerful than anyone needed in a country with a blanket 55 mph speed limit ! "

Later in the book while discussing various engines this is the description of the 560 SEL/SEC

" 5,547 cc, 96.5 x 94.8 mm, V8 - cyl OHC, type M117. Bosch fuel injection. 300 bhp at 5,000 rpm; 325 lb.ft at 3,750 rpm ( non - US models. ) 272 bhp at 5,000 rpm; 307 lb.ft at 3,750 rpm ( US models. ) "

I have wanted to bring this forward for some time and since you seem to have actual proof this seems like a good time. I am interested in any comments.
Best Wishes,
John

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  From: Eddie 
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  The stock California( 50-state, federal, etcetera) 560 sends exactly 200 hp to the rear wheels.  Taking off cats and installing headers gives you about 25 hp.  I have other modifications.



  Eddie




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  I am curious the year & model of W126 you have please? I have a book I bought through the MBCOA that states the US version 560 is actually more horsepower than the 238 or so that is advertised.

  Thanks,

  John

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    From: Eddie 

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    Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 8:29 PM

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    Well finally got to a dynojet, interesting results...

    RWHP= 256.1
    RWTQ= 298.22

    so using standard conversions for drive train power loss gives me:

    HP= 299.6 -> 309.9
    TQ= 348.9 -> 360.8

    Note, this was with oversize (heavy) rims, and reinforced clutches in the transmission. So that means my drivetrain losses may have been higher or lower compared to normal calculations.

    The projected power figures almost exactly match the amg 117 5.6 SOHC engine with tubular headers (but i am running euro 4 peice cast manifold still). so....does anyone know what was renntech's advertised hp and torque for the 6.0? What other modifications did AMG do to the 5.6 SOHC besides cams and headers?



    Eddie


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