[W126 Coupe] [Fwd: Fwd: This about summs it up.]

[David Fatovic]

Talk about BS allegations! First of all I never once
appoligized for anything the President has done. 
Secondly I have never tried (like you) to put all the
blame for everything on his shoulders.  Are you not
exactly sure how our government is setup?  Do you not
realize that not one man has absolute power?  I would
like to see that FEMA piece that states the President
is to blame for lunatics running planes in to the
Trade Center Towers, and how the President is to blame
for levees breaking in New Orleans.  (I would also
like to see that it states that in 2001, and how is it
not local governments duty to fix problems in their
own back yard) I would also like to see how it would
be the President's fault for an earthquake to hit S.F.
 Explain that one to me.

Was it not Bush that first came out and said the
government was not doing enough.  Was it the not Bush
who pushed for the Emergency Aid money to get through
congress and get to the people in that area?  

I ask you, please enlighten me.  Since you are
"spotting us" that local government is the appropriate
first responder.  What, in your opinion should have
been the appropriate actions taken by the President,
Congress, and FEMA?

David

--- Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> More BS allegations.  What was the President doing,
> David, when he said 
> he was flying to DC to handle things?  So far,
> despite asking the 
> simple question several times, not one of you
> apologists for the most 
> failed President in history has even attempted to
> answer the question.
> 
> In 2001, FEMA identified the 3 biggest potential
> catastrophes that 
> might strike the U.S.-->
> 
> A terrorist attack on NYC;
> A failure of the levees protecting New Orleans;
> Another major quake in San Francisco.
> 
> Bush is now 2 for 3.
> 
> If I spot you that local government is the
> appropriate First Responder 
> to most major events, why do you find FEMA's
> Non-Response acceptable.  
> Why are you so afraid to say that the President's
> response was 
> inadequate?
> 
> Does your "common sense" tell you that the President
> has zero 
> responsibility?
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Sep 13, 2005, at 6:57 AM, David Fatovic wrote:
> 
> > It must be horrible to be so far to the left that
> your
> > common sense has no place in your thinking.
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Where'd you get all that?  B/4 Katrina, their
> >> website touted them as
> >> the lead agency for national disasters. All
> that's
> >> changed now, of
> >> course.
> >>
> >> I note you didn't get around to answering the
> second
> >> question:
> >>
> >> What was the President doing?  Was he just
> waiting
> >> by the phone?  Why'd
> >> he leave Crawford?  Oh sure, I know he snuck out
> of
> >> town under the
> >> cover of Katrina so he wouldn't have to face
> >> headlines that read:
> >> "Bush Refuses to Meet with Cindy Sheehan and
> Returns
> >> to Washington",
> >> but what is the party line reason for his return?
> >> Does he have a
> >> better TV in DC to watch New Orleans fill up with
> >> water while he does
> >> nothing?
> >>
> >> On Sep 12, 2005, at 6:54 PM, Dick Spellman wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Paul:
> >>>
> >>> Let's start with the following:
> >>>
> >>> FEMA has no authority to do anything until they
> >> are asked and directed
> >>> by
> >>> local government.
> >>
> >> Directed by local government?  The Governor of LA
> >> asked and Bush sent
> >> an agreement for her to sign ceding all authority
> to
> >> the Feds.  That
> >> doesn't sound like the locals are directing
> >> anything.  The Gov refused
> >> to surrender absolute authority to Bush and
> Brownie.
> >>  (I sure hope we
> >> get to see that proposed agreement someday.)
> >>
> >> Look, this is all about money, power and
> influence.
> >> The Bush Admin
> >> refused to provide the funds the shore-up the
> levees
> >> because they
> >> didn't want the local Democrats doling out the
> >> patronage; they wanted
> >> to dole it out where they wanted to dole it out:
> >> Translation:  Energy
> >> Bill Pork Special
> >>
> >> Watch what happens next:  the Party Line will be
> >> that the locals cannot
> >> handle the rebuilding of N.O., so *now* the Feds
> >> will try to step to
> >> the front and take over.  *Their* cronies will
> get
> >> the patronage.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, as just one example of why we need a
> >> FEMA--Federal Emergency
> >> Management Agency--to take the lead (as they said
> >> they would, as they'd
> >> promised to do, as the President at least implied
> >> that he would when he
> >> flew back to DC) was the incident where folks
> tried
> >> to walk out of N.O.
> >> by crossing a bridge over the Mississippi.  The
> >> local cops on the other
> >> side forced them back at gunpoint.  The Police
> Chief
> >> over there said,
> >> essentially, "We aren't gonna let those looters
> into
> >> our town."  Now,
> >> that's a very harsh position, but taken from his
> >> point of view, he was
> >> protecting his evacuated city.  The question of
> >> who's in charge is
> >> *always* a problem in a major event.
> >>
> >> That's why we're supposed to have a Federal
> >> Response.  We're going to
> >> learn about many, many instances of "the left
> hand
> >> not knowing what the
> >> right hand was doing."   One bureaucrat telling
> >> another to do the wrong
> >> thing or not to do the right thing...b/c in a big
> >> event things get
> >> confused.  You need one guy at the top to be in
> >> charge--when that guy
> >> is an idiot, you get chaos.
> >>
> >> So, tell me why President Vacation returned to
> DC.
> >> BTW, I didn't hear
> >> him say, "The Gov hasn't called and asked for
> help,
> >> so I'm gonna finish
> >> this round of golf."
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>>
> >>> They will provide...
> >>> To individuals:
> >>> Provide temporary FREE housing
> >>> Provide short term funds 'capped' and FREE
> >>>
> >>> To local government:
> >>> Provide additional personnel to beef up existing
> >> security, fire and
> >>> rescue
> >>> personnel
> >>> Provide restoration resources (men, equipment
> and
> >> materials) to restore
> >>> municipal power, water, and basic services
> >>> Provide grants to local and state counties to
> >> rebuild local government
> >>> Provide grants to rebuild the school systems
> >>>
> >>> Local emergency planning and communications is
> >> provided by the local
> >>> authority.
> >>>
> >>> Dick
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