[W126 Coupe] RE: CHANGING INTERIORS

[Dick Spellman]

Hi Doc:

You are speaking of the cloth interior round welt that runs from front
window to rear window and is mated to the exterior black rubber coupe window
seals?  This cloth covered rubber is what holds the headliner pan in place
as well.  If this is what you are referring to, and if your windows now seal
correctly, just re-dye this piece of cloth with your new grey color choice.

The dye is best applied with a cloth.  I use a rubber gloved hand with an
old white sock pulled over then dip it in a small amount of the dye and
apply.  It will soak in rapidly where you are working with absorbent
material in this area unlike the leather seats.  If you are selling off the
old headliner and don't want to get dye along the edge, either lift the bead
and place paper under it or remove the headliner pan altogether and dye
before installing the new one.  You can get an exact match of the color you
need in a small container from World Upholstery or from MagicMender.  A
small bottle will be under $50.  If the first application dries too light in
color, just apply a second or third application.  That should do it.

I've restored the complete interior on my SEC (Palomino) and just did the
same plus repaired holes in the drivers seat on one of the 300SE's
(Burgundy).

Regards,
Dick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <drmet at pacbell.net>
To: <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:20 PM
Subject: [W126 Coupe] RE: CHANGING INTERIORS


>
>
> I was wondering if anyone else has replaced the interior of an SEC?
>
> I want a grey interior in a car that has palomino (I think it is the right
> name) in it.  My main concern are the door seals that run along the top of
> the car.  I do not wish to have wind noise but overall I do not wish to
> spend $2,200.00 to replace them!!  The guy that does my interior work said
> that he would change over the interior for $800.00 which is a steal!
>
> If you have any experience you are willing to share I would appreciate
your
> input.
>
> Doc
>
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>    1. Re: Re: MBCOUPES Diesel Daily Driver (Tony Damar)
>    2. RE: Rims (Axel Wulff)
>    3. Propane fuel? (Mike R.)
>    4. Re: Propane fuel? (Nathan Goodlet)
>    5. RE: Propane fuel? (Mike R.)
>    6. Mr. Tikket - Andy (Mike R.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tony Damar <tonydamar at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Re: MBCOUPES Diesel Daily Driver
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <20050909175601.98105.qmail at web30609.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>
> I know this is a few days late, but I haven't had the time to check emails
> that aren't work related.
>
> On the topic of 300SD vs 350SD, the 350's had the connecting rods
lightened.
> The "timebomb" factor is if one is run with very low oil.  This goes back
to
> the whole "maintenance not design" issue.  My father is a huge Merc diesel
> fan and this has rubbed off on me over the years.  From our mechanics'
> points of view, the 300SDL (6cyl turbo diesel) is the best diesel from the
> W126 line.  As a testament to this my father has an '81 (287K miles, still
> runs great but is now for parts), an '83 300SD (<120K miles) and an '87
> 300SDL (164K miles).  The SDL was rear ended and totalled, but we're
looking
> for a 300/350SDL in need of an engine and tranny swap to buy.  I forget
the
> engine number, but the '86 & '87 300SDLs are awesome as are the '81
through
> '85 300SDs.
>
> Dan, I'm assuming that the '90 300SD you reference below is actually a
> 350SD.
>
> Rich, if I had to choose between a 300 and 350, I'd choose the 300.
>
> Just my $0.02.
> Tony
> ps Sorry if this has been covered, but I am only now getting to check
emails
> that are over a week old
>
> Dan Stratton <stratton at illustration.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, I'm familiar with both, I used a '82 300SD as my daily driver
> for 10 years (260K miles) - they are bullet proof, only weak area is
> the transmission (I replaced mine with a newer model trans), A/C and
> front sys stuff that is common to all 80's MB 126. The 350SD on the
> other hand is a time bomb. My friend (who I purchased the '82 from)
> had a '91 350SD and the engine went at only 85K miles - required a
> new long block to the tune of $14K. Another person I know from
> business had her '90 300SD (6 cyl) self destruct at 120K miles. Both
> happened within 3 months of each other. I would stay away from any 6
> cyl MB diesel from 85 - 93. From people I know and have heard from
> about 50% of 6 cyl diesels have had catastrophic failure.
>
> Dan Stratton
>
>
>
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 00:15:11 -0400
> > From: "RICHARD JAFFE"
> > Subject: [W126 Coupe] OFF TOPIC - 126 CHASSIS DIESELS 300SD VS 350SD
> > To:
> > Message-ID:
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I'm thinking about getting a diesel as a daily driver. The issue is
> > whether to stick with the 3 ltr 5 cyl turbodiesel (these seem to be
> > pretty bullet proof) or go with the 3.5 ltr 6 cyl turbodiesel (1991
> > model year). One website mentioned numerous problems with the 3.5
> > ltr motor that MB did not acknowledge. Anyone have any experience
> > with either of these vehicles?
> >
> > Rich Jaffe
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:48:22 -0400
> From: "Axel Wulff" <axelwulff at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rims
> To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
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> Did I mention a starter problem?
>
> Man, our cars are heavy. I still have the imprint of the A-pillar on my
> shoulder.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Axel J. Wulff
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Sharan Bains" <sharanbains at hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> >Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rims
> >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:00:28 +0000
> >
> >Yep - it's great fun...once that reserve light goes on, I'll travel 30
> >miles before filling up.
> >
> >All my cars do approx 15mpg round town, so running 30 miles once that
light
>
> >comes on means I'm left with approx half-a-gallon. The only time I got
> >caught out was with the 500SEC when I just pushed it a bit too far....but
I
>
> >don't worry too much as all my cars have the original MB reserve canister
> >in the spare wheel well.
> >
> >How's the M119 SEC ?
> >
> >talbir
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Axel Wulff" <axelwulff at hotmail.com>
> >>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> >>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rims
> >>Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:14:42 -0400
> >>
> >>Talbir,
> >>
> >>Runnig your car until there is only 0.5 gallons left in the tank!
> >>
> >>You must enjoy living on the edge.
> >>
> >>I had to push my car across a parking lot (with a very slight incline)
> >>after the starter went. The tow guy just dropped it in the middle of the
> >>parking lot where my mechanic is located.
> >>
> >>Anyway, after pushing the car by myself about 100 yards, I am going to
> >>make sure I never run out of gas by refilling as soon as I hit the 1/4
> >>tank mark.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Axel J. Wulff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Sharan Bains" <sharanbains at hotmail.com>
> >>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >>>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> >>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rims
> >>>Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 06:38:17 +0000
> >>>
> >>>The tank capacity is actually more than 90 litres on the w126 - on the
> >>>one occasion i did run my w126 500sec dry and ran out of fuel stalling
to
>
> >>>a halt....I pulled out of the reserve canister from the trunk (which
> >>>holds seven litres) and poured it in. Got me started and I drove less
> >>>than 1 mile to the nearest petrol station....where I was able to pour
in
> >>>another 87 litres. And yes, the reserve canister was completely full in
> >>>the first place.
> >>>
> >>>So a total of 94 litres went in !
> >>>
> >>>Absolutely no reason why you cannot run until the last couple of litres
> >>>or so - the pumps are kept cool by the fuel, not lubricated by them.
> >>>
> >>>I always run a full two gallon's worth of miles after the reserve light
> >>>comes on (since reserve is approx 2.5 gallons). Not done any harm in 13
> >>>years....:-)
> >>>
> >>>What manual suggests running above 1/4 tank at all times ???? That's
> >>>complete trash IMO.
> >>>
> >>>talbir
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: "Shayegan, Richard" <rishayegan at davidson.edu>
> >>>>Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >>>>To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >>>>Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Rims
> >>>>Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:48:00 -0400
> >>>>
> >>>>90 liters??? You must be letting your tank run dry before you fill up.
> >>>>Don't these cars use the fuel to lubricate the fuel pump and thus
should
> >>>>avoid going below 1/4 tank if possible?
> >>>>Richard
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com
> >>>>[mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Sharan Bains
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:25 PM
> >>>>To: mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rims
> >>>>
> >>>>$60 per tankful ! How lucky are you ?? !!
> >>>>
> >>>>I pay 90 gbp = 160 USD for a 90 litre tankful of Shell Optimax. OUCH
!!!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>talbir
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> >From: Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net>
> >>>> >Reply-To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >>>> >To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> >>>> >Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Rims
> >>>> >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:24:00 -0700
> >>>> >
> >>>> >I have spacers; Wheel Warehouse in Anaheim, CA did the whole thing.
I
> >>>> >don't have the details.  I rub in the back when I hit a bump, but I
> >>>>think
> >>>> >I'm low on fluid in the levelers.  Haven't gotten around to that
> >>>> >yet...haven't been driving very fast lately at > $60 per tankfull!
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Paul
> >>>> >
> >>>> >On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Hovsep Dovlatian wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>You dont have any problems with the front wheels
> >>>> >>touching or anything.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>--- Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>>I have 18" Lorinser D93s on mine.  Look and ride are
> >>>> >>>great, but 17s
> >>>> >>>would look just as good and give a little more
> >>>> >>>cushion w/o sacrificing
> >>>> >>>(I think) too much handling.  I have 8X18 in front
> >>>> >>>with 235 x 40; and
> >>>> >>>9X18 in rear with 275X35.  I really wish I had 10"
> >>>> >>>wide wheels in the
> >>>> >>>back with 285 x 40s on them.  IMO, perfect set-up
> >>>> >>>would be 8 x 17,
> >>>> >>>maybe with 225s instead of 235s, in front and 10 x
> >>>> >>>17 in rear.  My car
> >>>> >>>is lowered, but I have zero info on that...it was
> >>>> >>>done before me.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>Photo:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>http://www.mbcoupes.com/memberscars/S/paulsamarin/paulsamarin.htm
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>Paul Samarin
> >>>> >>>86 560 SEC
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>On Sep 8, 2005, at 12:57 PM, Hovsep Dovlatian wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>>I know this thread has been done many times before
> >>>> >>>but
> >>>> >>>>I just need to know what rimms fit and give a good
> >>>> >>>>ride. Im thinking 18". Oh and please include a
> >>>> >>>pic.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>Thank You,
> >>>> >>>>Hovsep
> >>>> >>>
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> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:15:22 -0700
> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Propane fuel?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
> Message-ID: <200509092115.j89LFHqs012979 at radserv.lasvegas.net>
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>
> I just read a post on a benzworld forum from several propane/LPG users,
> including one with an SEC.
>
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1224976&posts=3
>
>
>
> Nathan - didn't you post something a while ago about "converting" an MB to
> use either gasoline or propane? Now that the oil companies are in the
> "maximize profits, screw consumers" mode, maybe natural gas/propane would
> make more sense for a daily commuter. I have an '87 560SEL that could use
> this!
>
>
>
> Is this a difficult conversion? Can I do a fill-up at a hardware store
> propane station? I have a gas water heater and home heating system, which
> means natural gas is already delivered to the house. What is needed to
fill
> up the car from that source?
>
>
>
> Later,
>
> Mike R.
>
> (702) 494-8056
>
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> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:39:24 -0500
> From: "Nathan Goodlet" <nathang at texoma.net>
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Propane fuel?
> To: "Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Mike
> Natural gas is a whole different thing from LPG/propane, LPG/propane will
> sit in a fairly lightweight bottle under 135 psi and remain a liquid, at
> room temperatures. This means in a 20 gallon tank of relatively light
weight
> you can get a huge quantity of gaseous fuel. CNG/compressed natural gas
does
> not liquify, even at 3500 psi !!! and requires a very strong, very large
> container, and a VERY hard working and expensive compressor, and A LOT of
> energy is required to compress the gas required to run a vehicle even for
> short day trips. CNG has been limited to use by local fleets, police cars,
> UPS or post office vehicles.  Even then, without the increase of energy
> density implicit in the state change to a liquid, a CNG vehicle is lilited
> by significant weight of the tank, significant and costly work invoved in
> compressing the gas to 3500 psi or more, and the fact that the fuel is not
> at all dense, compared to a liquid state fuel.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mike R.
>   To: 'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'
>   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 4:15 PM
>   Subject: [W126 Coupe] Propane fuel?
>
>
>   I just read a post on a benzworld forum from several propane/LPG users,
> including one with an SEC.
>
>
>
>
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1224976&posts=3
>
>
>
>   Nathan - didn't you post something a while ago about "converting" an MB
to
> use either gasoline or propane? Now that the oil companies are in the
> "maximize profits, screw consumers" mode, maybe natural gas/propane would
> make more sense for a daily commuter. I have an '87 560SEL that could use
> this!
>
>
>
>   Is this a difficult conversion? Can I do a fill-up at a hardware store
> propane station? I have a gas water heater and home heating system, which
> means natural gas is already delivered to the house. What is needed to
fill
> up the car from that source?
>
>
>
>   Later,
>
>   Mike R.
>
>   (702) 494-8056
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:10:28 -0700
> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: RE: [W126 Coupe] Propane fuel?
> To: "'Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists'" <mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>
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> Nathan,
>
> OK, natural gas might be good for my BBQ, not for the SEC.
>
>
>
> Any benefits to doing a LPG/Propane conversion to a 560 engine? It does
> sound like there might be enough energy there to have some decent results.
I
> could put a single large propane tank in the trunk, maybe a 40 pound
bottle.
> Unless I'm unlucky enough to have a problem like Ken Buck, getting
> sandwiched between to 18-wheelers, the LPG tank should be fine up against
> the gas tank. It shouldn't be too hard to seal the passenger compartment
> from the trunk, the rear speakers would be the biggest holes. Monkey S**T
> would take care of the rest. I could make a blow-out panel in the bottom
of
> a side well in the trunk just in case.
>
>
>
> Have you seen a US MB running LPG?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike R.
>
>   _____
>
> From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
> On Behalf Of Nathan Goodlet
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:39 PM
> To: Mercedes Coupes Mailing Lists
> Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Propane fuel?
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Natural gas is a whole different thing from LPG/propane, LPG/propane will
> sit in a fairly lightweight bottle under 135 psi and remain a liquid, at
> room temperatures. This means in a 20 gallon tank of relatively light
weight
> you can get a huge quantity of gaseous fuel. CNG/compressed natural gas
does
> not liquify, even at 3500 psi !!! and requires a very strong, very large
> container, and a VERY hard working and expensive compressor, and A LOT of
> energy is required to compress the gas required to run a vehicle even for
> short day trips. CNG has been limited to use by local fleets, police cars,
> UPS or post office vehicles.  Even then, without the increase of energy
> density implicit in the state change to a liquid, a CNG vehicle is lilited
> by significant weight of the tank, significant and costly work invoved in
> compressing the gas to 3500 psi or more, and the fact that the fuel is not
> at all dense, compared to a liquid state fuel.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: Mike R. <mailto:mramay at att.biz>
>
> To: 'Mercedes <mailto:mbcoupes at mbcoupes.com>  Coupes Mailing Lists'
>
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 4:15 PM
>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Propane fuel?
>
>
>
> I just read a post on a benzworld forum from several propane/LPG users,
> including one with an SEC.
>
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1224976
>
<http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1224976&posts=3>
> &posts=3
>
>
>
> Nathan - didn't you post something a while ago about "converting" an MB to
> use either gasoline or propane? Now that the oil companies are in the
> "maximize profits, screw consumers" mode, maybe natural gas/propane would
> make more sense for a daily commuter. I have an '87 560SEL that could use
> this!
>
>
>
> Is this a difficult conversion? Can I do a fill-up at a hardware store
> propane station? I have a gas water heater and home heating system, which
> means natural gas is already delivered to the house. What is needed to
fill
> up the car from that source?
>
>
>
> Later,
>
> Mike R.
>
> (702) 494-8056
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:20:20 -0700
> From: "Mike R." <mramay at att.biz>
> Subject: [W126 Coupe] Mr. Tikket - Andy
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> I heard from Andy's wife last night that Andy Melidosian passed away on
July
> 24th. She seems to be doing well, considering. I don't know what we could
do
> to help since he passed away a month and a half ago, but she does remember
> his involvement in MBCoupes and that he REALLY loved that SEC.
>
>
>
> Contact me off-line and I'll give you his phone number if you want to call
> her.
>
>
>
> He was an original and for one, I'm going to miss him!
>
>
>
> Later,
>
> Mike R.
>
> (702) 494-8056
>
> mramay at att.biz
>
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