[W126 Coupe] Engines

[Shayegan, Richard]

In other words, I'm better off with a euro 500 engine.
Richard

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From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of Jonathan Hodgman
Sent: Mon 7/18/2005 9:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Engines


Cams, heads (as my understanding the ports are different on a Euro).  Also, the Euro revs higher so a different fuel pump relay would be in order.

Jonathan



On 7/18/05, Shayegan, Richard <rishayegan at davidson.edu> wrote: 

	What other than compression and exhaust do you need to turn a 380 from 155hp into 204hp?
	Richard
	
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	From: mbcoupes-bounces at mbcoupes.com on behalf of Jim Nowak
	Sent: Mon 7/18/2005 6:47 PM
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	Subject: Re: [W126 Coupe] Engines
	
	
	
	Sure, given an unlimited budget.  However, you will
	find that it's not such an easy task to extract much 
	more power from our engines without supercharging.  I
	think much more is over 150 hp.
	
	Look at the people who have modified their SEC engines
	and show me some dyno graphs of those high hp NA
	engines.  Then tell me how successful they were in 
	getting much more power.  Heck, Renntech charges
	something like $25,000 for a 350 hp SEC engine.
	
	The SEC engine is not a stellar design in any aspect
	other than longevity.  It does not make much power
	given the output and is not an easy platform to modify
	for big gains.
	
	
	Jim
	
	
	
	
	--- David Fatovic <coloradocroat at yahoo.com> wrote:
	
	> No, my assumption wasn't that you can get MORE power 
	> out of the engine doing this instead of
	> supercharging
	> it.  My assumption was that I can get MORE power out
	> of the engine with new controls on it instead of the
	> current setup.  That it was ANOTHER way to get more 
	> power out of the engine.
	>
	> David
	>
	> --- Jim Nowak <jjnowak_32503 at yahoo.com> wrote:
	>
	> > David,
	> >
	> > No, that assumption is way off.  You will get much 
	> > more power out of forced inductiuon from this
	> engine
	> > than your would EVER get naturally aspirated.  Not
	> > to
	> > mention, the dollar per hp from forced inducttion
	> is
	> > around 1/3 the cost of a high hp naturally
	> aspirated
	> > motor.  I've built engines both ways and the
	> > supercharged engine always makes more power per L.
	> >
	> > Jim 
	> >
	> >
	> > --- David Fatovic <coloradocroat at yahoo.com> wrote:
	> >
	> > > So once you strip off all the control stuff, you 
	> > > have
	> > > an engine to do whatever you want with it
	> correct?
	> > > Somewhat?  I feel you can get much more
	> horsepower
	> > > out
	> > > of the engine other ways than supercharging it. 
	> > >
	> > > Thanks,
	> > >
	> > > David
	> > >
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