From kent_gibbs at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 10:18:09 2006 From: kent_gibbs at yahoo.com (Kent Gibbs) Date: Sun Apr 16 10:18:11 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Is anybody home? Message-ID: <20060416141809.1665.qmail@web50214.mail.yahoo.com> Did the list move? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dickburk at ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 16 10:27:52 2006 From: dickburk at ix.netcom.com (Richard Knoppow) Date: Sun Apr 16 10:28:15 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Is anybody home? References: <20060416141809.1665.qmail@web50214.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601c66161$f599fef0$0ea5e804@VALUED20606295> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Gibbs" To: Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:18 AM Subject: [LargeFormat] Is anybody home? > Did the list move? > Its still operating but no traffic. The last message I got was a month ago! --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com From kent_gibbs at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 11:30:23 2006 From: kent_gibbs at yahoo.com (Kent Gibbs) Date: Sun Apr 16 11:30:26 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Is anybody home? In-Reply-To: <001601c66161$f599fef0$0ea5e804@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <20060416153023.86583.qmail@web50201.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Richard. --- Richard Knoppow wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent Gibbs" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:18 AM > Subject: [LargeFormat] Is anybody home? > > > > Did the list move? > > > > Its still operating but no traffic. The last message I > got was a month ago! > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@ix.netcom.com > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Jim at hemenway.com Sun Apr 16 12:36:39 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Sun Apr 16 12:36:59 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Man Severs Own Penis, Throws It At Police In-Reply-To: <001601c66161$f599fef0$0ea5e804@VALUED20606295> References: <20060416141809.1665.qmail@web50214.mail.yahoo.com> <001601c66161$f599fef0$0ea5e804@VALUED20606295> Message-ID: <44427297.8060004@hemenway.com> The Chicago Police claimed he was just nuts! From woodencamera at earthlink.net Mon Apr 17 01:54:29 2006 From: woodencamera at earthlink.net (Karl Faller) Date: Tue Apr 18 08:38:53 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] web site Message-ID: Richard, Haven't had any messages for a couple of months; thought it was dead. I have a couple of new photos (thanks to Jim Hemenway) on my website. Take a look if you're interested. Karl http://woodencamera.net From rogerbb at comcast.net Tue Apr 18 19:29:13 2006 From: rogerbb at comcast.net (Roger Berwanger) Date: Tue Apr 18 19:30:25 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Fantastic camera. As a former woodworker, who did the joinery? Roger Berwanger Annapolis, MD New to the craft in 2006 Former: Nikon 35 SLR; Hasselblad 500C; Mamiya RB67 Pro. Current: Calumet 45 NS (Recovered from a trash pile in my office). 9/240 Schneider Kreuchnach; Copal #1. -----Original Message----- From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net] On Behalf Of Karl Faller Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:54 AM To: LargeFormat@f32.net Subject: [LargeFormat] web site Richard, Haven't had any messages for a couple of months; thought it was dead. I have a couple of new photos (thanks to Jim Hemenway) on my website. Take a look if you're interested. Karl http://woodencamera.net _______________________________________________ LargeFormat mailing list LargeFormat@f32.net http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat From woodencamera at earthlink.net Tue Apr 18 20:23:08 2006 From: woodencamera at earthlink.net (Karl Faller) Date: Wed Apr 19 08:17:37 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Roger, all of the woodworking was completed by myself, including the joinery. Some was done with biscuits but most was done with a tenoning jig. You asked......... Karl > Fantastic camera. As a former woodworker, who did the joinery? > > Roger Berwanger > Annapolis, MD > > New to the craft in 2006 > Former: Nikon 35 SLR; Hasselblad 500C; Mamiya RB67 Pro. > Current: Calumet 45 NS (Recovered from a trash pile in my office). > 9/240 Schneider Kreuchnach; Copal #1. > > -----Original Message----- > From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net] > On > Behalf Of Karl Faller > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:54 AM > To: LargeFormat@f32.net > Subject: [LargeFormat] web site > > Richard, > Haven't had any messages for a couple of months; thought it was dead. > I have a couple of new photos (thanks to Jim Hemenway) on my website. > Take a look if you're interested. > Karl > > http://woodencamera.net > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From woodencamera at earthlink.net Tue Apr 18 20:27:54 2006 From: woodencamera at earthlink.net (Karl Faller) Date: Wed Apr 19 08:22:23 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57FEDB14-CF3B-11DA-BB96-000393B878D2@earthlink.net> > Roger, all of the woodworking was completed by myself, including the > joinery. > Some was done with biscuits but most was done with a tenoning jig. > You asked......... > Karl > >> Fantastic camera. As a former woodworker, who did the joinery? >> >> Roger Berwanger >> Annapolis, MD >> >> New to the craft in 2006 >> Former: Nikon 35 SLR; Hasselblad 500C; Mamiya RB67 Pro. >> Current: Calumet 45 NS (Recovered from a trash pile in my office). >> 9/240 Schneider Kreuchnach; Copal #1. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net >> [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net] On >> Behalf Of Karl Faller >> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:54 AM >> To: LargeFormat@f32.net >> Subject: [LargeFormat] web site >> >> Richard, >> Haven't had any messages for a couple of months; thought it was dead. >> I have a couple of new photos (thanks to Jim Hemenway) on my website. >> Take a look if you're interested. >> Karl >> >> http://woodencamera.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LargeFormat mailing list >> LargeFormat@f32.net >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LargeFormat mailing list >> LargeFormat@f32.net >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >> > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From oftjugen at online.no Wed Apr 19 09:05:32 2006 From: oftjugen at online.no (Ole Tjugen) Date: Wed Apr 19 09:07:32 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Keeping busy :) Message-ID: I've been quite busy lately, not only at work. First of all it was getting the two fine old folding plate cameras operative: One 24x30cm, one 13x18cm. That's in addition to the 30x40cm and the 18x24cm I already have, and a large number of 6.5x9cm and 9x12cm cameras. I'm afraid the 30x40cm camera has lost its universal lens board again. I had one mounted on it for the Gathering last fall, but that's back on the 13x18 it came from. Another one is mounted on the 18x24cm; and the biggest one of all was a very nice fit on the 24x30cm camera. Makes sense - lenses up to 11cm diameter are more likely to be used on the 24x30 than the smaller cameras... Anyway: I've been playing around with the 24x30, various lenses, getting the film holders light tight and all that. Then I went to do a "test shoot" with a 150mm wide angle Aplanat lens, and discovered lots of leaks in the bellows. I'll get new bellows made - it's too complicated for a first try with 14 pleats and internal taper (and not external taper), and it also has to compress down to 4cm and stretch to 90cm. Tonight I have a few sheets of film to develop. I did a comparison shoot of two 90mm Angulons - one 1939, one 1951 - on 5x7" film to see if there is a difference in coverage and/or sharpness. But maybe my "new" LF camera arrives today - if it does, I'll be spending my evening trying to figure out a Carbon Infinity. I really look forward to that, it's the perfect 4x5" for my use! PS: Anyone need a 4x5" Linhof Color, which is now "surplus to requirements"? Or a pretty (but not good) old 13x18cm plate camera? -- Ole Tjugen From kent_gibbs at yahoo.com Sat May 6 10:19:12 2006 From: kent_gibbs at yahoo.com (Kent Gibbs) Date: Sat May 6 10:19:16 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Old Treasures Message-ID: <20060506141912.78317.qmail@web50207.mail.yahoo.com> Lastnight I was going through my negatives try to get things more organized (the battle that never ends). Found many images from long ago that I have never gotten around to printing or never had the time. What a pleasure it was to see some of these old negatives. Like meeting an old freind again. I was once again reminded why I love large format B&W so much. Hope everyone is doing well. Kent __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From georges.giralt at free.fr Thu May 11 08:41:59 2006 From: georges.giralt at free.fr (Georges Giralt) Date: Thu May 11 08:42:03 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Komura lenses specs. Message-ID: <44633117.3060701@free.fr> Hi ! I own a Komura 210 mm F:6.3 lens for 4x5, and I like it ! I use it more and more for my B&W work. Nothing exceptional, but a smooth rendition, and a very good sharpness. Given I had it for a song (it came in a Copal #1 shutter, and was half the price of a second hand Copal alone...), it is a real bargain ! As far as I know it is similar in design with the Schneider Xenars so nothing exceptional nor top dog by today's standards. So I wonder if you, LF Gurus have somewhere a spec sheet and performance review for the Komura lenses line, as my web search turned to about nothing. They seems to have produced a fairly large line, from wide angles to tele design lenses. Thanks a lot for your help ! -- Ce message est constitu? d'au moins 50 % d'?lectrons recycl?s. Aucun ?lectron n'a ?t? bless? ou forc? d'aucune mani?re pendant l'?criture de ce message. S'il vous pla?t aidez nous ? conserver nos ressources, recyclez vos ?lectrons ! From Jim at hemenway.com Thu May 11 09:36:41 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Thu May 11 09:36:47 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Komura lenses specs. In-Reply-To: <44633117.3060701@free.fr> References: <44633117.3060701@free.fr> Message-ID: <44633DE9.8040006@hemenway.com> Sorry, but I can't help you George. Jim Georges Giralt wrote: > Hi ! > I own a Komura 210 mm F:6.3 lens for 4x5, and I like it ! I use it more > and more for my B&W work. Nothing exceptional, but a smooth rendition, > and a very good sharpness. Given I had it for a song (it came in a Copal > #1 shutter, and was half the price of a second hand Copal alone...), it > is a real bargain ! As far as I know it is similar in design with the > Schneider Xenars so nothing exceptional nor top dog by today's standards. > So I wonder if you, LF Gurus have somewhere a spec sheet and performance > review for the Komura lenses line, as my web search turned to about > nothing. They seems to have produced a fairly large line, from wide > angles to tele design lenses. > Thanks a lot for your help ! From evegir at reachone.com Thu May 11 09:38:54 2006 From: evegir at reachone.com (Eve Girard) Date: Thu May 11 09:39:05 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Komura lenses specs. In-Reply-To: <44633DE9.8040006@hemenway.com> Message-ID: Try here: http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/info/komura/komura.html -----Original Message----- From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net]On Behalf Of Jim Hemenway Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:37 AM To: f32 Large Format Photography Mail List Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Komura lenses specs. Sorry, but I can't help you George. Jim Georges Giralt wrote: > Hi ! > I own a Komura 210 mm F:6.3 lens for 4x5, and I like it ! I use it more > and more for my B&W work. Nothing exceptional, but a smooth rendition, > and a very good sharpness. Given I had it for a song (it came in a Copal > #1 shutter, and was half the price of a second hand Copal alone...), it > is a real bargain ! As far as I know it is similar in design with the > Schneider Xenars so nothing exceptional nor top dog by today's standards. > So I wonder if you, LF Gurus have somewhere a spec sheet and performance > review for the Komura lenses line, as my web search turned to about > nothing. They seems to have produced a fairly large line, from wide > angles to tele design lenses. > Thanks a lot for your help ! _______________________________________________ LargeFormat mailing list LargeFormat@f32.net http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat From georges.giralt at free.fr Thu May 11 11:41:45 2006 From: georges.giralt at free.fr (Georges Giralt) Date: Thu May 11 11:42:05 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Komura lenses specs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44635B39.3030902@free.fr> Thanks Eve, but mine dosn't show ! Is it an allien one or these specs are older than my lens ? It is strange I didn't see these pages before ! So thank you ! Eve Girard a ?crit : > Try here: > > http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/info/komura/komura.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net]On > Behalf Of Jim Hemenway > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:37 AM > To: f32 Large Format Photography Mail List > Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Komura lenses specs. > > Sorry, but I can't help you George. > > Jim > > Georges Giralt wrote: > > >>Hi ! >>I own a Komura 210 mm F:6.3 lens for 4x5, and I like it ! I use it more >>and more for my B&W work. Nothing exceptional, but a smooth rendition, >>and a very good sharpness. Given I had it for a song (it came in a Copal >>#1 shutter, and was half the price of a second hand Copal alone...), it >>is a real bargain ! As far as I know it is similar in design with the >>Schneider Xenars so nothing exceptional nor top dog by today's standards. >>So I wonder if you, LF Gurus have somewhere a spec sheet and performance >>review for the Komura lenses line, as my web search turned to about >>nothing. They seems to have produced a fairly large line, from wide >>angles to tele design lenses. >>Thanks a lot for your help ! > > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > > -- Ce message est constitu? d'au moins 50 % d'?lectrons recycl?s. Aucun ?lectron n'a ?t? bless? ou forc? d'aucune mani?re pendant l'?criture de ce message. S'il vous pla?t aidez nous ? conserver nos ressources, recyclez vos ?lectrons ! From jim at brick.org Tue May 16 14:30:29 2006 From: jim at brick.org (Jim Brick) Date: Tue May 16 14:33:00 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Interesting article Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060516113007.067114f8@brick.org> Interesting article: http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=5&id=1672 Jim From Jim at hemenway.com Wed May 17 10:21:11 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Wed May 17 10:21:16 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Picasso's Camera Message-ID: <446B3157.3090700@hemenway.com> From Jim at hemenway.com Wed May 17 19:18:09 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Wed May 17 19:18:48 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Internet Helps Analog Photography Hold On Message-ID: <446BAF31.8060604@hemenway.com> From k4sb at niia.net Tue May 23 23:34:41 2006 From: k4sb at niia.net (Ken Hough ) Date: Tue May 23 23:34:37 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Deardorff Talk at: The Ohio Camera Collector's Society Message-ID: <44738E01.5225.41E461AF@localhost> Hi folks If anyone is interested in attending, I'm doing a talk at the Ohio Camera Collector's Society yearly meeting in Worthington OH. The talk is this friday evening at 7:30pm it is free but you must make a reservation for a seat by contacting Dan Hausman: occs@earthlink.net If you missed my talk at Photo-History in 2003 this will be an expanded version. Here's the societys link: http://historiccamera.com/club/occs/ Hope to see you there. I'll have lots of goodies to show. Ken Ken Hough Photographic Repair Service Specializing in the Complete restoration of Deardorff View Cameras Est 1982 www.deardorffcameras.0catch.com 219 462 0281 From dickburk at ix.netcom.com Tue May 23 23:58:59 2006 From: dickburk at ix.netcom.com (Richard Knoppow) Date: Tue May 23 23:59:04 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Deardorff Talk at: The Ohio Camera Collector's Society References: <44738E01.5225.41E461AF@localhost> Message-ID: <000d01c67ee6$664bcf60$85c6e804@VALUED20606295> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hough " To: Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: [LargeFormat] Deardorff Talk at: The Ohio Camera Collector's Society > Hi folks > If anyone is interested in attending, I'm doing a talk at > the > Ohio Camera Collector's Society yearly meeting in > Worthington OH. The talk > is this friday evening at 7:30pm it is free but you must > make a > reservation for a seat by contacting Dan Hausman: > occs@earthlink.net > If you missed my talk at Photo-History in 2003 this will > be an expanded > version. > Here's the societys link: > http://historiccamera.com/club/occs/ > > Hope to see you there. I'll have lots of goodies to show. > Ken > > Ken Hough Photographic Repair Service > Specializing in the Complete restoration of > Deardorff View Cameras > Est 1982 > www.deardorffcameras.0catch.com > 219 462 0281 > I would love to come, too bad I am so far away. Perhaps you could post a summary to the list afterwards. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com From Jim at hemenway.com Wed May 24 17:05:49 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Wed May 24 17:05:52 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Stolen gear Message-ID: <4474CAAD.3040707@hemenway.com> Always close the windows and lock the doors From woodencamera at earthlink.net Thu May 25 01:35:03 2006 From: woodencamera at earthlink.net (Karl Faller) Date: Thu May 25 13:28:58 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Stolen gear In-Reply-To: <4474CAAD.3040707@hemenway.com> Message-ID: <3712345E-EBB0-11DA-A4BD-000393B878D2@earthlink.net> ... and carry a gun!!! Karl > Always close the windows and lock the doors > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From Jim at hemenway.com Sat May 27 13:39:30 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Sat May 27 13:39:35 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Honest injun... this photo was taken with my 11x14! Message-ID: <44788ED2.1040707@hemenway.com> Friends: I'm almost 65 and my body is aging so rapidly that my mind can't keep up with the changes: Jim From schuyler at bellsouth.net Sat May 27 13:46:44 2006 From: schuyler at bellsouth.net (Schuyler Grace) Date: Sat May 27 13:46:43 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Honest injun... this photo was taken with my 11x14! In-Reply-To: <44788ED2.1040707@hemenway.com> Message-ID: Well, I think I know smut when I see it, and that's smut (corn smut, that is--Mexican mushrooms; feral fungus; tasty eatin')... =8^p -----Original Message----- From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net] On Behalf Of Jim Hemenway Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:40 AM To: Large Format Group Subject: [LargeFormat] Honest injun... this photo was taken with my 11x14! Friends: I'm almost 65 and my body is aging so rapidly that my mind can't keep up with the changes: Jim _______________________________________________ LargeFormat mailing list LargeFormat@f32.net http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat From red735i at earthlink.net Sat May 27 16:06:00 2006 From: red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) Date: Sat May 27 16:06:27 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Honest injun... this photo was taken with my 11x14! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005101c681c9$000b2da0$6501a8c0@FrankDell2> No thanks. 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URL: http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/largeformat/attachments/20060619/c1254c40/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 3034 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/largeformat/attachments/20060619/c1254c40/attachment.gif From veedubrocco at aol.com Mon Jun 19 16:07:20 2006 From: veedubrocco at aol.com (Steve) Date: Mon Jun 19 15:44:56 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1150747640.5077.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hrmm. Honestly, I had forgotten that I even subscribed to this list ! The emails are so far and few between. Why do you think this is ? I honestly think its due to the excellent web-based forums that are available. What would this list offer that they don't ? Perhaps that is what we need to be asking ourselves in order to keep this alive. Regards, Steve On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:27 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: > I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits > moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it > looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. > > Les > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat From Jim at hemenway.com Mon Jun 19 15:53:47 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Mon Jun 19 15:55:12 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> Perhaps he prefers that we only use The f32 Large Format Discussion Forum. Jim Les Newcomer wrote: > I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits > moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it > looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. > > Les > > _______________________________________________ From barb at zgc.com Mon Jun 19 16:02:50 2006 From: barb at zgc.com (barb@zgc.com) Date: Mon Jun 19 16:03:23 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Out of Office Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 06/16/2006 and will not return until 06/26/2006. I will be on vacation from June 16 and returning to the office on June 26. I will be checking email sporatically so if you need to reach me quickly, please call my office at 973-335-4460. If you need to reach me right away, please call the office at 973-335-4460 and they will track me down. Thanks! From LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com Mon Jun 19 16:31:49 2006 From: LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com (Les Newcomer) Date: Mon Jun 19 16:31:55 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: <1150747640.5077.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1150747640.5077.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: I always liked the listserve rather than trying to navigate F32 or photo.net. I'm officially a member of f32 forum, even posted a few times. Now I can't log in and the moderator won't return my emails in getting it straight. This was a lively group until so much spam caused the server to have a meltdown and the moderator took too long to get it back up, by then the talkative ones left for places that worked. Etiher that or they all went digital. les On Jun 19, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Steve wrote: > Hrmm. > Honestly, I had forgotten that I even subscribed to this list ! The > emails are so far and few between. Why do you think this is ? I > honestly think its due to the excellent web-based forums that are > available. What would this list offer that they don't ? Perhaps that > is what we need to be asking ourselves in order to keep this alive. > > Regards, > Steve > On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:27 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: >> I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits >> moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it >> looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. >> >> Les >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LargeFormat mailing list >> LargeFormat@f32.net >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com Mon Jun 19 16:32:19 2006 From: LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com (Les Newcomer) Date: Mon Jun 19 16:32:23 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] Out of Office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <613ee92b05435d5238a8b55bae289f03@twmi.rr.com> Let's hope she took an LF camera with her~! :-) On Jun 19, 2006, at 4:02 PM, barb@zgc.com wrote: > > I will be out of the office starting 06/16/2006 and will not return > until > 06/26/2006. > > I will be on vacation from June 16 and returning to the office on June > 26. > I will be checking email sporatically so if you need to reach me > quickly, > please call my office at 973-335-4460. > > If you need to reach me right away, please call the office at > 973-335-4460 > and they will track me down. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From kent_gibbs at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:49:54 2006 From: kent_gibbs at yahoo.com (Kent Gibbs) Date: Mon Jun 19 16:49:58 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060619204954.86998.qmail@web50212.mail.yahoo.com> Well, I'm still here. I find the forums take too much time and prefer the e-mail format. Kent --- Les Newcomer wrote: > I always liked the listserve rather than trying to navigate F32 or > photo.net. I'm officially a member of f32 forum, even posted a few > times. Now I can't log in and the moderator won't return my emails > in > getting it straight. This was a lively group until so much spam > caused > the server to have a meltdown and the moderator took too long to get > it > back up, by then the talkative ones left for places that worked. > Etiher > that or they all went digital. > > les > > > On Jun 19, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Steve wrote: > > > Hrmm. > > Honestly, I had forgotten that I even subscribed to this list ! > The > > emails are so far and few between. Why do you think this is ? I > > honestly think its due to the excellent web-based forums that are > > available. What would this list offer that they don't ? Perhaps > that > > is what we need to be asking ourselves in order to keep this alive. > > > > Regards, > > Steve > > On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:27 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: > >> I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits > >> moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case > it > >> looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. > >> > >> Les > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LargeFormat mailing list > >> LargeFormat@f32.net > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LargeFormat mailing list > > LargeFormat@f32.net > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > > > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Jim at hemenway.com Mon Jun 19 17:00:09 2006 From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway) Date: Mon Jun 19 17:00:23 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: References: <1150747640.5077.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44971059.3030703@hemenway.com> Les: I feel entirely the same way. I like the listserve better than the web pages type of forum, and very much enjoyed this group a year or so back. I'm still shooting 11x14 Ektachrome but am also dabbling more into digital. Jim Les Newcomer wrote: > I always liked the listserve rather than trying to navigate F32 or > photo.net. I'm officially a member of f32 forum, even posted a few > times. Now I can't log in and the moderator won't return my emails in > getting it straight. This was a lively group until so much spam caused > the server to have a meltdown and the moderator took too long to get it > back up, by then the talkative ones left for places that worked. Etiher > that or they all went digital. > > les > > > On Jun 19, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Steve wrote: > >> Hrmm. >> Honestly, I had forgotten that I even subscribed to this list ! The >> emails are so far and few between. Why do you think this is ? I >> honestly think its due to the excellent web-based forums that are >> available. What would this list offer that they don't ? Perhaps that >> is what we need to be asking ourselves in order to keep this alive. >> >> Regards, >> Steve >> On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:27 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: >> >>> I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits >>> moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it >>> looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. >>> >>> Les >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LargeFormat mailing list >>> LargeFormat@f32.net >>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LargeFormat mailing list >> LargeFormat@f32.net >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >> > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From LFlistadmin at f32.net Mon Jun 19 19:25:32 2006 From: LFlistadmin at f32.net (List Admin) Date: Mon Jun 19 19:28:32 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: References: <1150747640.5077.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150747640.5077.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060620000623.0291ca70@mail.megacycle.co.uk> Dear All, Great to see some activity on the list and a brief note to let you know that I am still battling away to keep servers and list running. The usual reason for a post being held for moderation is that HTML has been included in the message. Gradually I was spending more and more time simply battling spam and denial of service attacks. When you spend over an hour each and every evening dealing with EMail and server issues photography becomes excluded as I also have to work to keep the wolf away from the door. After 5 years of this level of work I simply threw my hands in the air and took a break. With over 30000 EMails a day hitting the servers and just 1% getting through the sophisticated defences, well you do the maths. Les, sorry to hear that I missed your EMails and will have a look at your account. The Forum was also attacked and there are some glitches that the vendors are supposed to be sorting out. In the meantime Graeme decided to set up his own Forum and took all with him and I wish him the best of luck. Bottom line is that f32.net is a labour of love and perhaps like many love affairs you can become blind to the realities - ie I have to pay for its continued existence on a monthly basis and it takes time - with little income! However I will not be beaten by the spammers and other demented inhabitants of the digital world. Keep the faith chaps - I wish you all good light and great images in your large format photography! I regard you all as friends and as such want to keep you happy but please remember the work that goes on unseen just to keep the ship afloat. Think of me as the captain who has taken up the role of stoker in the boiler room as the crew desert ship :-) The Leader has never abandoned you, simply working hard alone to keep the ship afloat and on course. Please use the facilities, your cameras, burn film and keep posting! Thanks to all those who have offered and given support. All the very best, Clive At 16:31 19/06/2006 -0400, you wrote: >I always liked the listserve rather than trying to navigate F32 or >photo.net. I'm officially a member of f32 forum, even posted a few >times. Now I can't log in and the moderator won't return my emails in >getting it straight. This was a lively group until so much spam caused >the server to have a meltdown and the moderator took too long to get it >back up, by then the talkative ones left for places that worked. Etiher >that or they all went digital. > >les > > >On Jun 19, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Steve wrote: > >>Hrmm. >> Honestly, I had forgotten that I even subscribed to this list ! The >>emails are so far and few between. Why do you think this is ? I >>honestly think its due to the excellent web-based forums that are >>available. What would this list offer that they don't ? Perhaps that >>is what we need to be asking ourselves in order to keep this alive. >> >>Regards, >> Steve >>On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:27 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: >>>I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits >>>moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it >>>looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. >>> >>>Les >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>LargeFormat mailing list >>>LargeFormat@f32.net >>>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >> >>_______________________________________________ >>LargeFormat mailing list >>LargeFormat@f32.net >>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > >_______________________________________________ >LargeFormat mailing list >LargeFormat@f32.net >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat From LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com Mon Jun 19 19:28:57 2006 From: LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com (Les Newcomer) Date: Mon Jun 19 19:29:01 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> References: <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> Message-ID: <3c0c20e73bb5ee09681ed858ef9fc853@twmi.rr.com> It doesn't look like F32 is doing much better. Unless I'm reading "New Posts" wrong, the last post was over a month ago and only 6 of the 19 categories have posts this year! Les On Jun 19, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Jim Hemenway wrote: > Perhaps he prefers that we only use The f32 Large Format Discussion > Forum. > > Jim > > > Les Newcomer wrote: > >> I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits >> moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it >> looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. >> Les >> _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From LFlistadmin at f32.net Mon Jun 19 19:36:50 2006 From: LFlistadmin at f32.net (List Admin) Date: Mon Jun 19 19:37:01 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: <3c0c20e73bb5ee09681ed858ef9fc853@twmi.rr.com> References: <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060620003253.028df4a8@mail.megacycle.co.uk> Hello Les, Yes, that's the result of Graeme starting a new Forum and suggesting that all should jump ship! There was a problem with the Forum caused in part by the hosting company disabling postings to the Forum. Essentially five years of community building were destroyed in a couple of weeks. After that particular event I didn't switch the machines on here for about a month..... Anyway, good to hear you in fine voice. Cheers, Clive At 19:28 19/06/2006 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: >It doesn't look like F32 is doing much better. Unless I'm reading "New >Posts" wrong, the last post was over a month ago and only 6 of the 19 >categories have posts this year! > >Les >On Jun 19, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Jim Hemenway wrote: > >>Perhaps he prefers that we only use The f32 Large Format Discussion Forum. >> >>Jim >> >> >>Les Newcomer wrote: >> >>>I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits >>>moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it >>>looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. >>>Les >>>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>LargeFormat mailing list >>LargeFormat@f32.net >>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > >_______________________________________________ >LargeFormat mailing list >LargeFormat@f32.net >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat From LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com Mon Jun 19 19:39:39 2006 From: LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com (Les Newcomer) Date: Mon Jun 19 19:39:44 2006 Subject: [largeformat] pinhole photography Message-ID: <9c060388750c280c8f929d4b19357701@twmi.rr.com> about the only thing new to LF in this house is last month for the school science fair, did pin hole photography. While I found a great sight that showed how to use the proverbial Quaker Oats box, with a little suggestion, we upgraded to a Postal Service Priority box and a spare Graflok back. This way we I mean she could take more than one shot without heading to the darkroom. this was also a great excuse to clean out the darkroom and get the cobwebs off the 8x10 Arkay processing sink that's been neglected for far too long. I was concerned that the sink would be too complicated for her to handle (loading 4 up 4x5 hangers takes some getting used to) but she opted for the sink over trays, and once she realized the machine farts, she's been asking to process my film! The school, more specifically her 4th grade teacher, conspired, cajoled, and begged to get a garden in the center of the U shaped school. Since I didn't participate in the digging and planting I came out with my 8x10 for the official ribbon cutting ceremony. I'll try to scan the neg in a couple days. From LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com Mon Jun 19 19:42:26 2006 From: LNPhoto at twmi.rr.com (Les Newcomer) Date: Mon Jun 19 19:42:30 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20060620003253.028df4a8@mail.megacycle.co.uk> References: <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20060620003253.028df4a8@mail.megacycle.co.uk> Message-ID: <0b482c674c02afe0b2059ec0d7e97797@twmi.rr.com> I don't mean this to be a sarcastic as it might sound, but did Graeme take the F32 workshop too? On Jun 19, 2006, at 7:36 PM, List Admin wrote: > Hello Les, > > Yes, that's the result of Graeme starting a new Forum and suggesting > that all should jump ship! There was a problem with the Forum caused > in part by the hosting company disabling postings to the Forum. > Essentially five years of community building were destroyed in a > couple of weeks. > > After that particular event I didn't switch the machines on here for > about a month..... > > Anyway, good to hear you in fine voice. > > Cheers, > > Clive > > At 19:28 19/06/2006 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: >> It doesn't look like F32 is doing much better. Unless I'm reading >> "New Posts" wrong, the last post was over a month ago and only 6 of >> the 19 categories have posts this year! >> >> Les >> On Jun 19, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Jim Hemenway wrote: >> >>> Perhaps he prefers that we only use The f32 Large Format Discussion >>> Forum. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> Les Newcomer wrote: >>> >>>> I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits >>>> moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case >>>> it looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. >>>> Les >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LargeFormat mailing list >>> LargeFormat@f32.net >>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LargeFormat mailing list >> LargeFormat@f32.net >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > > _______________________________________________ > LargeFormat mailing list > LargeFormat@f32.net > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > From Clive.Warren at megacycle.co.uk Mon Jun 19 19:52:08 2006 From: Clive.Warren at megacycle.co.uk (Clive Warren) Date: Mon Jun 19 19:52:16 2006 Subject: [largeformat] new posts In-Reply-To: <0b482c674c02afe0b2059ec0d7e97797@twmi.rr.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20060620003253.028df4a8@mail.megacycle.co.uk> <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> <449700CB.10101@hemenway.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20060620003253.028df4a8@mail.megacycle.co.uk> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20060620004528.02917258@mail.megacycle.co.uk> Hmmmm....... The last workshop announcements attracted two potential participants, despite many posts and rally calls. Given that I make nothing from the workshops and they take a LOT of time, effort and money to set up I decided to cancel and have not attempted another since. I do receive occasional phone calls from photographers wanting tuition/workshops. The advertising alone cost me nearly ?1500 for the last workshop - add on public liability insurance, location fees, tuition fees, film, travel and my time given freely - well you get the picture, it's large format ;-) The most recent workshop activity was a Robert Lawrence table top stills event that I was happy for him to advertise on the f32 Forum but no f32 relationship. Cheers, Clive At 19:42 19/06/2006 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: >I don't mean this to be a sarcastic as it might sound, but did Graeme take >the F32 workshop too? > > >On Jun 19, 2006, at 7:36 PM, List Admin wrote: > >>Hello Les, >> >>Yes, that's the result of Graeme starting a new Forum and suggesting that >>all should jump ship! There was a problem with the Forum caused in part >>by the hosting company disabling postings to the Forum. Essentially five >>years of community building were destroyed in a couple of weeks. >> >>After that particular event I didn't switch the machines on here for >>about a month..... >> >>Anyway, good to hear you in fine voice. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Clive >> >>At 19:28 19/06/2006 -0400, Les Newcomer wrote: >>>It doesn't look like F32 is doing much better. Unless I'm reading "New >>>Posts" wrong, the last post was over a month ago and only 6 of the 19 >>>categories have posts this year! >>> >>>Les >>>On Jun 19, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Jim Hemenway wrote: >>> >>>>Perhaps he prefers that we only use The f32 Large Format Discussion Forum. >>>> >>>>Jim >>>> >>>> >>>>Les Newcomer wrote: >>>> >>>>>I tried to reply to the latest post and was told that it awaits >>>>>moderator's approval! Hey the original got through! In any case it >>>>>looks like Fearless Leader has abandoned us again. >>>>>Les >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>LargeFormat mailing list >>>>LargeFormat@f32.net >>>>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>LargeFormat mailing list >>>LargeFormat@f32.net >>>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat >> >>_______________________________________________ >>LargeFormat mailing list >>LargeFormat@f32.net >>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat > >_______________________________________________ >LargeFormat mailing list >LargeFormat@f32.net >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/largeformat From viewcam at incanberra.com.au Mon Jun 19 22:04:55 2006 From: viewcam at incanberra.com.au (Peter McDonald) Date: Mon Jun 19 22:04:57 2006 Subject: [LargeFormat] SE Australian listmembers In-Reply-To: <9c060388750c280c8f929d4b19357701@twmi.rr.com> References: <9c060388750c280c8f929d4b19357701@twmi.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi: Any on the list who are physically located in South-Eastern Australia, i.e. the Sydney/Canberra/Melbourne area: in discussion with a couple of large format photographers at a workshop at the weekend, the idea was raised of developing a large format special interest group. We are interested in getting together a group of like-minded people who would be interested in meeting in some central location a few times a year to exchange experiences, technical information, and perhaps even take some photographs ( --:) ). Two of us are based in Canberra, and the third is in Mansfield in the Victorian High Country. We will be canvassing other large format users in our respective areas, and would like to talk to others from Melbourne and Sydney (and points in between). One issue to be sorted is where a central location between Sydney and Melbourne might be. Anyway, please email to me off-list if you are interested. Peter McDonald Canberra, Australia. From Don.Wilkes at gov.bc.ca Tue Jun 20 11:32:09 2006 From: Don.Wilkes at gov.bc.ca (Wilkes, Don LCS:EX) Date: Tue Jun 20 11:38:23 2006 Subject: [largeformat] pinhole photography Message-ID: <802774BEB28D304982334424C2A19904029262E9@stack.idir.bcgov> > > about the only thing new to LF in this house is last month for the > school science fair, did pin hole photography. What fun . I haven't done any pinhole stuff since about 1972. My fun for the past year was stepping away from b&w work. Somehow, I had totally twisted around my E.I. for FP4, not realizing I was shooting about 1.5-2.0 stops over what I should be, which was making the negs rather tough to print. And, at the same time, I was going through a pretty horrible dust plague, so I ended up getting so frustrated I started wondering if large format was truly worth the stuggle. On a lark, I decided to shoot a box Fujichrome, and let the lab do all the hard bits. Well! I've been blasting away happily ever since, ripping through a satisfyingly large number of (expensive!) boxes of film. Just yesterday, I finally got my first 16x20 colour print from a drum-scanned chrome, done on a LightJet (the lab got severely backed up, and it took ages). I had them do it on Fuji "Flex", which is odd stuff -- a very plasticky base, but a stellar gloss. It's going to look terrific up on my office cubicle wall. My other fun thing for the year was finally getting a field camera, so I don't have to lug the old Calumet monorail around. As I live in a smallish Canadian city, used fields are really hard to find, so I was ecstatic when I finally latched on to a mint condition Toyo 45A at a decent price. I'm still learning it's quirks, but very, very happy with it. Cheers, \donw in victoria, b.c. P.S. Anyone have advice on mounting this Flex stuff? I'm thinking archival corners might be the way to go... The print has a 2" border all around, so they certainly wouldn't show under an overmat. From younger at terranovaphotography.com Tue Jun 20 22:29:18 2006 From: younger at terranovaphotography.com (Bob Younger) Date: Tue Jun 20 22:29:21 2006 Subject: [largeformat] pinhole photography In-Reply-To: <802774BEB28D304982334424C2A19904029262E9@stack.idir.bcgov> Message-ID: <000001c694da$6aad1ff0$0201a8c0@TerraII> It will sag under its own weight. And then, if you've put glass or plastic in the frame, it will lie against the plastic in circular patches and look like you've got a big wet spot on the picture. I finally had to go to having it professionally mounted in a vacuum press on a very smooth black ABS plastic material. Bob Younger -----Original Message----- From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net] On Behalf Of Wilkes, Don LCS:EX Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:32 AM To: f32 Large Format Photography Mail List Subject: RE: [largeformat] pinhole photography Cheers, \donw in victoria, b.c. P.S. Anyone have advice on mounting this Flex stuff? I'm thinking archival corners might be the way to go... The print has a 2" border all around, so they certainly wouldn't show under an overmat. From Don.Wilkes at gov.bc.ca Wed Jun 21 12:02:58 2006 From: Don.Wilkes at gov.bc.ca (Wilkes, Don LCS:EX) Date: Wed Jun 21 12:03:17 2006 Subject: [largeformat] pinhole photography Message-ID: <802774BEB28D304982334424C2A1990402AA297A@stack.idir.bcgov> > I finally had to go to having it professionally mounted in a > vacuum press on a very smooth black ABS plastic material. Egads. Do you know what sort of adhesive they used? Cheers, \donw From younger at terranovaphotography.com Wed Jun 21 21:55:35 2006 From: younger at terranovaphotography.com (Bob Younger) Date: Wed Jun 21 21:55:40 2006 Subject: [largeformat] pinhole photography In-Reply-To: <802774BEB28D304982334424C2A1990402AA297A@stack.idir.bcgov> Message-ID: <007501c6959e$e8381a00$0201a8c0@TerraII> No, but it was very expensive (32"x40" prints). I seem to recall it was on the order of $75/print. They looked phenomenal. No orange peel rippling. Now for the sad part, they all burned up with our house in the Cedar Fire in San Diego 3 years ago; about 1 week after I picked them up. The good news is that insurance is a wonderful thing. Bob Younger -----Original Message----- From: largeformat-bounces@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-bounces@f32.net] On Behalf Of Wilkes, Don LCS:EX Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:03 AM To: f32 Large Format Photography Mail List Subject: RE: [largeformat] pinhole photography > I finally had to go to having it professionally mounted in a > vacuum press on a very smooth black ABS plastic material. Egads. Do you know what sort of adhesive they used? From Don.Wilkes at gov.bc.ca Thu Jun 22 12:18:55 2006 From: Don.Wilkes at gov.bc.ca (Wilkes, Don LCS:EX) Date: Thu Jun 22 12:18:58 2006 Subject: [largeformat] pinhole photography Message-ID: <802774BEB28D304982334424C2A1990402AA297D@stack.idir.bcgov> > the order of $75/print. Yikes -- just for mounting?? > good news is that insurance is a wonderful thing. And the better news is that it was just a print, and not *you* or your family! But, all the same, I hope your negs and transparencies were okay. 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