[LargeFormat] apo ronar

[Karl Wolz]

IIRC, Packard shutters don't come in sizes large enough to accommodate a
24" Apo Ronar.  I researched this a year or two ago.

Karl Wolz

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: largeformat-admin@f32.net [mailto:largeformat-admin@f32.net] On
Behalf
 > Of Richard Knoppow
 > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:50 AM
 > To: largeformat@f32.net
 > Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] apo ronar
 > 
 > 
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Joseph O'Neil" <joneil@multiboard.com>
 > To: <largeformat@f32.net>
 > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 7:54 AM
 > Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] apo ronar
 > 
 > 
 > >
 > > >   Remounting a lens like this in a modern shutter is
 > > >expensive, partly because the shutter itself is
 > expensive.
 > > >Its a little cheaper to have the entire barrel front
 > mounted
 > > >in a shutter, Steve Grimes shop can do this work. A
 > cheaper
 > > >way is to use a Packard shutter. These are simple air
 > > >operated shutters which have been made since about the
 > > >1870's. Used ones were once very common but now you will
 > > >probably have to buy one new. See:
 > http://www.hubphoto.com
 > >
 > > -snip-
 > >
 > > Hi Richard;
 > >          Thanks for the heads up on the packard shutter -
 > I did nto know
 > > you coudl still get them new.
 > >
 > >          I was seriously looking at front mounting it - i
 > have a front
 > > mounted 8.25" Goerz red dot artar I front mounted myself
 > in an ilex
 > > shutter.  Fortuneably one of my friends is a machinst so I
 > can get a rting
 > > done to adapt the threads.  teh whoel thing looks quite
 > :homemade" but it
 > > works just fine.
 > >
 > >          i used to deal with Stever Grimes before he did -
 > bought some of
 > > his spanner wrenches too, but the problem for me living in
 > Canada is
 > > customs is very "anal retentive" when you send anything
 > acorss the
 > > boarder  for work - they want to asses you duty for the
 > whole lens &
 > > shutter, not just the work done,a nd yes, you cna argue
 > with them,a nd yes,
 > > you can win, but form direct, past expeirence, it takes a
 > piel of
 > > paperwork, time,a nd you wait about a year to get yoru
 > duty refunded.
 > >
 > >          As a result, I ahve been teaching myself to
 > service old
 > > shutters.  I am in no way a qulaified technician, but I am
 > at hte paoint,
 > > that if a shutter just needs proper cleaning an oiling, I
 > will do that for
 > > my own gear.  The oils  and oilsers used for mechanical
 > shutters are nearly
 > > identical for mechanical closks, and  local, Swiss trainde
 > d watchmaker whop
 > > repairs mechanical clokcs sold me some oil, oilers, and
 > showed me a couple
 > > tips.  Agian, I am no way anything near the quality or
 > expertise of the
 > > crew at Steve Grimes Inc, but for my own purposes, I am
 > happy.  If I have a
 > > lens that actually needs a new part - liek aspring, then
 > forget, but just
 > > basic cleaning & oiling, awya I go.    that's what I did
 > with the old Ilex
 > > shutter that I front mounted my Artar on.  Like I siad,
 > looks funny, would
 > > never sell on ebay, but works just fine for me.
 > > :)
 > >
 > >          So,, if all goes well, I hope to someday fine an
 > old #5 shutter,a
 > > nd see what I can do.
 > > thanks agian
 > > joe
 > >
 > >
 > > http://www.oneilphoto.on.ca
 > > http://www.multiboard.com/~joneil
 > > Una salus victis, nullam sperare salutem
 > >
 > >
 >    If you have a large shutter like the Ilex #5 Universal
 > you can have an adaptor made for it to take small
 > lensboards. That way you can mount any number of barrel
 > lenses on the same shutter. I have a #5 set up to take 5-1/4
 > x 5x1-4 boards, the size use on 5x7 Agfa cameras and also I
 > think on 5x7 Kodak 2D's. I also have a board this size with
 > an adaptor for 4x4 Speed Graphic lens boards. I use the
 > Graphic boards for all lenses which will fit on them and the
 > larger boards for larger lenses. Actually, you can make the
 > same sort of rig for a Packard shutter. This is economical
 > since you can use the same shutter for any number of lenses.
 > I have adaptors for the 4x4 Graphic boards for four LF
 > cameras and can use them in a total of eight cameras.
 > Another neet item is an iris clamp but they are hard to
 > find. These clamp around the barrel of the lens mount. The
 > only problem is that they are not the most secure type of
 > mounting and can damage threads if tightened too much. I
 > have a small one on a 4x4 board I use for mounting enlarging
 > lenses for macro work. Its easy to mount the lenses backward
 > by clamping the outside of the front. The advantage of this
 > is that the stop ring is exposed. Iris clamps were never too
 > common used but, like so much other stuff, seem to have
 > become rare now.
 > ---
 > Richard Knoppow
 > Los Angeles, CA, USA
 > dickburk@ix.netcom.com
 > 
 > 
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