[LargeFormat] 5x7 Press Graflex Film Holders...
LNPhoto
largeformat@f32.net
Sun Jan 25 11:26:02 2004
I hope I'm wrong too, but you'll notice that none of these have a
hinged bottom that you flip over to insert the film. Glass, not being
very flexible doesn't use the tape hinge system..at least most of the
time. All of these have a cut out in this area to manipulate a metal
slide lock. You drop the plate in slide the lock over and close the
dark slide...that's why you don't see the rails inside the holder along
the long side.
As a general rule, if the holders are varnished rather than black, they
are plate holders. Just like not all ebay sellers know what they are
selling.
If they haven't shipped yet you might want to give the guy a call and
talk him through. Saves shipping that way.
les
On Sunday, January 25, 2004, at 09:12 AM, tripspud wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I hope your wrong about these being plate holders. The auction
> states film holders.
>
> Rich
>
> LNPhoto wrote:
>
>> I agree with Richard, these are not Graflex holders, whether or not
>> they fit or the film plane is in the correct position will be
>> determined by the camera and not a couple a guys on a computer.
>>
>> I will add that these are plate holders, not film holders. To use
>> these you'll either need to find the film sheaths that convert glass
>> plate holders to film holders, or spend a whole lot of money on glass
>> plates. Last I saw 4x5 glass plates with Tmax emulsion was $20 each
>> min order 144.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 12:46 PM, tripspud wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> I've located and bought two 5x7 film holders that are the
>>> correct
>>> ones for the 5x7 Press Graflex:
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/
>>> eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2979982353&category=4701
>>>
>>> Two are the correct larger size, the other two plain vanilla
>>> 5x7
>>> holders. These
>>> are somewhat hard to find. If anyone else on the list has more of
>>> the
>>> larger
>>> 5x7 Graflex holders to sell, I'd be interested, as I intend to make
>>> major use of
>>> the camera.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: LNPhoto <LNPhoto@twmi.rr.com>
>>>> Sent: Jan 6, 2004 5:47 AM
>>>> To: largeformat@f32.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] 5x7 Press Graflex Film Holders...
>>>>
>>>> Welcome to the crazy and confused world of Graflex.
>>>>
>>>> Two things separate the GRAFLEX holder from the GRAPHIC or modern
>>>> holder.
>>>> 1st and more obvious is the greater width and the grooves along the
>>>> long side of the holder.
>>>>
>>>> 2nd and more importantly, it that the light trap on the darkslide
>>>> side
>>>> of the holder is reversed....Graflex holders have a fairly deep
>>>> groove
>>>> while modern holders have one or more commonly, two ridges.
>>>>
>>>> The Press Graflex is the odd duck in that it's the only Reflex type
>>>> camera to have a spring loaded ground glass back and yet still takes
>>>> the Graflex holders.
>>>>
>>>> 5x7 Graflex holders are hard to find. Before I got my PRess Graflex,
>>>> there was one auction for about 4 or 5 and they went for quite a sum
>>>> (but still not as much as 11x14 holders Jim!) However since this
>>>> camera
>>>> doesn't use the grooves of a Graflex holder it wouldn't take much to
>>>> modify some older regular film holders to fit. Look for the older
>>>> wood
>>>> holders with the metal light traps. These are great in that the
>>>> felt
>>>> can be replaced but the added benefit over modern plastic holders is
>>>> that the ridge can be milled off and replaced with the necessary
>>>> groove
>>>> and the width built up with any hardwood. Really a very easy
>>>> project.
>>>> I would have done this but my camera came with a plate magazine and
>>>> no
>>>> ground glass. BTW I'm not sure how but the Ground Glass is
>>>> removable.
>>>> Look for some hooks at the top and pins at the bottom of the film
>>>> holder slot.
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 01:12 AM, tripspud wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the 'wrong' subject line before...
>>>>
>>>> This is useful. I was not sure if the Press Graflex used standard
>>>> Graflex holders because its such an odd duck.
>>>> My one and only Graflex is a Super-D with a Graflok back so it
>>>> takes standard Graphic holders. Its been years since I used a
>>>> Graflex
>>>> with a Graflex back.
>>>> Both backs were available on both cameras (Graflex and Graphic)
>>>> on special order. Graflex backs are occasionally found on Speed
>>>> Graphics because they allowed the use of special accessories.
>>>> I have not seen any Graflex holders at the local shows for
>>>> years,
>>>> they appear to be as rare as hen's teeth.
>>>
>>>
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