[LargeFormat] Old style films

Marcus Ward largeformat@f32.net
Mon Dec 2 12:15:09 2002


Yeah a friend of mine has a cirkit camera, it works on a clockwork that you
wind up.  Very impressive but also a little insane in operation.

I am definetly talking about those brushstroke style spherical aberrations.
I'll try the trick with the diopters.  Thanks for the info.

M


> If not motion, sometimes those old lenses had some cool spherical
aberrations
> that made an impressionistic brushstroke feel to detail in the corners.
If you
> want to fake that, try adding a simple close-up lens to your view camera
lens,
> which will "uncorrect" it (and shorten the focal length).  There was an
article
> about six months ago in View Camera Magazine (allow me to plug my favorite
> reading) about improvising taking lenses with simple elements, like
close-up
> diopters.
>
> Skip Roessel
> skiproessel@mindspring.com
>
> Marcus Ward wrote:
>
> > Speaking of old pictures and the qualities...  I was looking at some old
> > group photos made with a banquet camera here in the 1920s and there is a
> > certain quality to the out of focus areas (bokeh, yes) that is unlike
> > anything I've seen in a modern lens.  It almost looks like it's in
motion
> > but it obviously isn't.  Can anyone comment on this effect?  I'd like to
try
> > to reproduce it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marcus
> > http://www.f-64.org/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Skip Roessel" <skiproessel@mindspring.com>
> > To: <largeformat@f32.net>
> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Old style films
> >
> > > If by old-style you mean pictures made in the 1930's and later, you're
> > > searching for the newest incarnations of Kodak SuperXX and its like, a
> > > general-purpose and press film, panchromatic (sensitive to blue, green
> > > and red light) that was discontinued about twenty years ago.
> > > Mid-century, Kodak still had ten B&W films in its catalog, with
romantic
> > > names like Royal-X Pan, Portrait Panchromatic, Super Panchro Press,
etc.
> > >
> > > Bergger 200, a curent film imported from France, is quite similar.
> > > Badger Graphic Sales is one source: ph 800.558.5350
> > >
> > > There's some new incarations of these classic films, made in Hungary
and
> > > imported in all sizes by JandC Photo (in Kansas!): a 200-speed, a
> > > 100-speed, and a 25-speed extra fine-grain.  Prices are great.  Check
> > > their web site. http://www.jandcphotography.com/
> > >
> > > Weston et al were also fans of pyro developer, two versions of which
are
> > > sold by Bostick & Sullivan in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
> > > www.bostick-sullivan.com  (That's a hyphen, not an underscore between
> > > the names).
> > >
> > > Prior to the mid-twenties most films were blue (and ultraviolet)
> > > sensitive, or bit later, orthochromatic (blue plus green).  This gave
> > > the particular rendering we associate with the 19th century... white
> > > skys, reds and yellows rendered black, etc.  Shooting through a
> > > deep-blue filter would approximate this effect.  So would using early,
> > > non coated lenses, which exaggerate flare, and higher-contrast
> > > developers.
> > > Skip Roessel
> > > skiproessel@mindspring.com
> > >
> > > hairy possum wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am interesting in producing old style photographs.
> > > > I am sure someone makes old style film, without all
> > > > the T grains, etc.
> > > >
> > > > I heard about it somewhere, but can't remember the
> > > > name of the company making it.  Can anyone advise me
> > > > of the film, and maybe a place to purchase it in the
> > > > US??
> > > >
> > > > I like the look of Edward Weston photos, and would
> > > > like to have a similiar look in mine.  Reckon this is
> > > > possible, with the improvement in all the materials???
> > > >
> > > > If anyone can suggest methods to approach his look, I
> > > > would appreciate it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Lauvone
> > > >
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