[LargeFormat] Old style films

Marcus Ward largeformat@f32.net
Mon Dec 2 09:59:38 2002


Speaking of old pictures and the qualities...  I was looking at some old
group photos made with a banquet camera here in the 1920s and there is a
certain quality to the out of focus areas (bokeh, yes) that is unlike
anything I've seen in a modern lens.  It almost looks like it's in motion
but it obviously isn't.  Can anyone comment on this effect?  I'd like to try
to reproduce it.

Thanks,
Marcus
http://www.f-64.org/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Skip Roessel" <skiproessel@mindspring.com>
To: <largeformat@f32.net>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Old style films


> If by old-style you mean pictures made in the 1930's and later, you're
> searching for the newest incarnations of Kodak SuperXX and its like, a
> general-purpose and press film, panchromatic (sensitive to blue, green
> and red light) that was discontinued about twenty years ago.
> Mid-century, Kodak still had ten B&W films in its catalog, with romantic
> names like Royal-X Pan, Portrait Panchromatic, Super Panchro Press, etc.
>
> Bergger 200, a curent film imported from France, is quite similar.
> Badger Graphic Sales is one source: ph 800.558.5350
>
> There's some new incarations of these classic films, made in Hungary and
> imported in all sizes by JandC Photo (in Kansas!): a 200-speed, a
> 100-speed, and a 25-speed extra fine-grain.  Prices are great.  Check
> their web site. http://www.jandcphotography.com/
>
> Weston et al were also fans of pyro developer, two versions of which are
> sold by Bostick & Sullivan in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
> www.bostick-sullivan.com  (That's a hyphen, not an underscore between
> the names).
>
> Prior to the mid-twenties most films were blue (and ultraviolet)
> sensitive, or bit later, orthochromatic (blue plus green).  This gave
> the particular rendering we associate with the 19th century... white
> skys, reds and yellows rendered black, etc.  Shooting through a
> deep-blue filter would approximate this effect.  So would using early,
> non coated lenses, which exaggerate flare, and higher-contrast
> developers.
> Skip Roessel
> skiproessel@mindspring.com
>
> hairy possum wrote:
>
> > I am interesting in producing old style photographs.
> > I am sure someone makes old style film, without all
> > the T grains, etc.
> >
> > I heard about it somewhere, but can't remember the
> > name of the company making it.  Can anyone advise me
> > of the film, and maybe a place to purchase it in the
> > US??
> >
> > I like the look of Edward Weston photos, and would
> > like to have a similiar look in mine.  Reckon this is
> > possible, with the improvement in all the materials???
> >
> > If anyone can suggest methods to approach his look, I
> > would appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Lauvone
> >
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