"Or are you referring to parts of Oregon ??!!??" Au contraire, mon ami! You must remember that there is Seattle and then the rest of the state! I am south of you in the bucolic Olympia area. The native species is a sight to behold! You must appreciate that, since the demise of Monster Truck Shows, the native seldom ventures far from his lair. Honestly, Tom, you should get out more! ;>) Eve