From afs760bf at cox.net Fri Feb 4 12:27:28 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Fri Feb 4 12:27:29 2005 Subject: [KOML] 135mm for sale on photo.net Message-ID: <20050204172727.YFUG11542.lakermmtao01.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Don't know if anyone is intersted, but there is some KO equipment for sale on photo.net, including a 135mm lens. Link here: http://www.photo.net/gc/view-one?classified_ad_id=602540 Best, Barry From afs760bf at cox.net Wed Feb 23 11:00:34 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Wed Feb 23 11:00:36 2005 Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay Message-ID: <20050223160035.QXEU22208.lakermmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours left. Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. Best, Barry From egoldste at earthlink.net Wed Feb 23 11:09:08 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Wed Feb 23 11:09:43 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay Message-ID: <11597869.1109174948274.JavaMail.root@rowlf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the first production version? That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... Eric Goldstein -----Original Message----- From: Barry F Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours left. Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. Best, Barry _______________________________________________ KOML mailing list KOML@koni-omega.org http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From afs760bf at cox.net Wed Feb 23 13:24:19 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Wed Feb 23 13:24:22 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay Message-ID: <20050223182420.HFUZ20159.lakermmtao12.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm BF > > From: Eric Goldstein > Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the first production version? > > That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > > Eric Goldstein > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry F > Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > > If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > > If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours left. > > Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > > Best, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From stuart at stuartgoodman.co.uk Thu Feb 24 04:42:27 2005 From: stuart at stuartgoodman.co.uk (stuartgoodman) Date: Thu Feb 24 04:42:33 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay In-Reply-To: <20050223182420.HFUZ20159.lakermmtao12.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> References: <20050223182420.HFUZ20159.lakermmtao12.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold on my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one came with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing properly. i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark on the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. the problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning of the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of frame 9. it's a great shame because the results the results look like large format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get the feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed the camel. regards, stuart goodman On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > BF >> >> From: Eric Goldstein >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay >> >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the >> first production version? >> >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... >> >> Eric Goldstein >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barry F >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay >> >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 >> >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours >> left. >> >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. >> >> Best, >> Barry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> KOML mailing list >> KOML@koni-omega.org >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml >> >> _______________________________________________ >> KOML mailing list >> KOML@koni-omega.org >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml >> > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From wbill at bellatlantic.net Thu Feb 24 07:36:25 2005 From: wbill at bellatlantic.net (Bill Barton) Date: Thu Feb 24 07:36:31 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay References: <20050223182420.HFUZ20159.lakermmtao12.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <421DCA49.6010205@bellatlantic.net> Stuart, I had a 200 with a 120 back that had two problems that were causing overlap. 1. The film clutch gets gummed up and does not work properly. Just about any old Koni/Rapid will have this problem. If you feel up to it check out Randy's page on how to overhaul the film clutch, it just takes some time... http://members.tripod.com/randamteagarden/id31.htm 2. I also had with the same back where the film counter would skip numbers, I would go from #1 to #3.5 and other strange things with the counter. This I had to send it off to Greg Weber for repair (there was something broken) And this caused problems with overlap also. Good luck bill From afs760bf at cox.net Thu Feb 24 09:26:51 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Thu Feb 24 09:26:57 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay Message-ID: <20050224142654.MXSD28092.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Stuart: I am assuming you are using a 120 film back. The 220 film back has the index mark in a different place. Anyway, if you are starting out in the right place with the arrow on the film aligned with the mark on the back, and your first picture is not at the first of the roll, then either you are not pulling the lever out all the way before pushing it back in, or there is a problem with the back. If the back is the problem, it can be fixed. No need to dispose of the whole camera. I personally don't have the time, energy, or inclination to try dismantling the clutch mechanism myself, but you can send the back to Greg Weber and he'll do a nice tune-up on it. His toll-free number is 877.721.3873. His web site is www.webercamera.com. Yes, these cameras have their own personalities, but no-one can argue with the results. Good luck, Barry > > From: stuartgoodman > Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 04:42:27 EST > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... > > i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold on > my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one came > with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing > properly. > > i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark on > the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. the > problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning of > the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of frame > 9. > > it's a great shame because the results the results look like large > format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get the > feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed the > camel. > > regards, > > stuart goodman > > On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > > > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > > > BF > >> > >> From: Eric Goldstein > >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List > >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > >> > >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega > >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the > >> first production version? > >> > >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > >> > >> Eric Goldstein > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Barry F > >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > >> > >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, > >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > >> > >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours > >> left. > >> > >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > >> > >> Best, > >> Barry > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> KOML mailing list > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> KOML mailing list > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From sheba at attitude.com Fri Feb 25 00:25:44 2005 From: sheba at attitude.com (Randy & Amy) Date: Fri Feb 25 00:25:40 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay References: <20050224142654.MXSD28092.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <003701c51afa$75647070$78338ed1@user7sx4r0irls> I'm glad to see people still make use of my site. I wish I had more time to do more but with a 10 month old little one around, not much time for anything but him. Good to see someone still out there interested in the Koni's. Happy shooting. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry F" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:26 AM Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > Stuart: > I am assuming you are using a 120 film back. The 220 film back has the index mark in a different place. > > Anyway, if you are starting out in the right place with the arrow on the film aligned with the mark on the back, and your first picture is not at the first of the roll, then either you are not pulling the lever out all the way before pushing it back in, or there is a problem with the back. If the back is the problem, it can be fixed. No need to dispose of the whole camera. I personally don't have the time, energy, or inclination to try dismantling the clutch mechanism myself, but you can send the back to Greg Weber and he'll do a nice tune-up on it. His toll-free number is 877.721.3873. His web site is www.webercamera.com. > > Yes, these cameras have their own personalities, but no-one can argue with the results. > > Good luck, > Barry > > > > > From: stuartgoodman > > Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 04:42:27 EST > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... > > > > i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold on > > my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one came > > with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing > > properly. > > > > i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark on > > the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. the > > problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning of > > the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of frame > > 9. > > > > it's a great shame because the results the results look like large > > format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get the > > feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed the > > camel. > > > > regards, > > > > stuart goodman > > > > On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > > > > > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > > > > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > > > > > BF > > >> > > >> From: Eric Goldstein > > >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > > >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > >> > > >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega > > >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the > > >> first production version? > > >> > > >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > > >> > > >> Eric Goldstein > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Barry F > > >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > > >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > > >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > > >> > > >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, > > >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > > >> > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > > >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > > >> > > >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours > > >> left. > > >> > > >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> Barry > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> KOML mailing list > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> KOML mailing list > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > From afs760bf at cox.net Fri Feb 25 10:14:47 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Fri Feb 25 10:14:49 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay Message-ID: <20050225151447.QXCS867.lakermmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Hi, Randy, Yes, we still put the site to use from time to time, even though there are long periods of inactivity. We appreciate it. If you have a ten-month old, you should be taking lots of pictures. I have an 11-month old grand-daughter, and I burn film on her frequently. Here's a link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3073389 We raised five, and have lots of pictures. Best, Barry > > From: "Randy & Amy" > Date: 2005/02/25 Fri AM 12:25:44 EST > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > I'm glad to see people still make use of my site. I wish I had more time to > do more but with a 10 month old little one around, not much time for > anything but him. Good to see someone still out there interested in the > Koni's. Happy shooting. > Randy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry F" > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:26 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > Stuart: > > I am assuming you are using a 120 film back. The 220 film back has the > index mark in a different place. > > > > Anyway, if you are starting out in the right place with the arrow on the > film aligned with the mark on the back, and your first picture is not at the > first of the roll, then either you are not pulling the lever out all the way > before pushing it back in, or there is a problem with the back. If the back > is the problem, it can be fixed. No need to dispose of the whole camera. I > personally don't have the time, energy, or inclination to try dismantling > the clutch mechanism myself, but you can send the back to Greg Weber and > he'll do a nice tune-up on it. His toll-free number is 877.721.3873. His > web site is www.webercamera.com. > > > > Yes, these cameras have their own personalities, but no-one can argue with > the results. > > > > Good luck, > > Barry > > > > > > > > From: stuartgoodman > > > Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 04:42:27 EST > > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... > > > > > > i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold on > > > my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one came > > > with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing > > > properly. > > > > > > i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark on > > > the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. the > > > problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning of > > > the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of frame > > > 9. > > > > > > it's a great shame because the results the results look like large > > > format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get the > > > feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed the > > > camel. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > stuart goodman > > > > > > On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > > > > > > > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > > > > > > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > > > > > > > BF > > > >> > > > >> From: Eric Goldstein > > > >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > > > >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega > > > >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the > > > >> first production version? > > > >> > > > >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > > > >> > > > >> Eric Goldstein > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Barry F > > > >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > > > >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > > > >> > > > >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, > > > >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > > > >> > > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > > > >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > > > >> > > > >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours > > > >> left. > > > >> > > > >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> Barry > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From species1951 at planetwave.net Fri Feb 25 11:45:34 2005 From: species1951 at planetwave.net (John Gill) Date: Fri Feb 25 11:45:37 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay Message-ID: <20050225164535.29D2DE4B9@sitemail.everyone.net> --- Barry F wrote: From: Barry F Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:14:47 -0500 To: Koni-Omega Mail List Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay Hi, Randy, Yes, we still put the site to use from time to time, even though there are long periods of inactivity. We appreciate it. If you have a ten-month old, you should be taking lots of pictures. I have an 11-month old grand-daughter, and I burn film on her frequently. Here's a link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3073389 We raised five, and have lots of pictures. Best, Barry > Barry, Great shot, clear, excellent color and a beautiful child. I've > got to get my Koni. Best, John _____________________________________________________________ Get your FREE web-based email @ http://www.planetwave.net From sheba at attitude.com Sun Feb 27 02:05:25 2005 From: sheba at attitude.com (Randy & Amy) Date: Sun Feb 27 02:05:20 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay References: <20050225151447.QXCS867.lakermmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <001a01c51c9a$b7190a20$91338ed1@user7sx4r0irls> Hi Berry, Yes I've taken loads of pics of my son but unfortunately I have no way of putting my Koni shots up on the web. Having the negs scanned is out of my price league, however I have many digital shots as well that I have not posted on my site yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry F" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > Hi, Randy, > Yes, we still put the site to use from time to time, even though there are long periods of inactivity. We appreciate it. If you have a ten-month old, you should be taking lots of pictures. I have an 11-month old grand-daughter, and I burn film on her frequently. Here's a link: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3073389 > > We raised five, and have lots of pictures. > > Best, > Barry > > > > > From: "Randy & Amy" > > Date: 2005/02/25 Fri AM 12:25:44 EST > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > I'm glad to see people still make use of my site. I wish I had more time to > > do more but with a 10 month old little one around, not much time for > > anything but him. Good to see someone still out there interested in the > > Koni's. Happy shooting. > > Randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barry F" > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:26 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > Stuart: > > > I am assuming you are using a 120 film back. The 220 film back has the > > index mark in a different place. > > > > > > Anyway, if you are starting out in the right place with the arrow on the > > film aligned with the mark on the back, and your first picture is not at the > > first of the roll, then either you are not pulling the lever out all the way > > before pushing it back in, or there is a problem with the back. If the back > > is the problem, it can be fixed. No need to dispose of the whole camera. I > > personally don't have the time, energy, or inclination to try dismantling > > the clutch mechanism myself, but you can send the back to Greg Weber and > > he'll do a nice tune-up on it. His toll-free number is 877.721.3873. His > > web site is www.webercamera.com. > > > > > > Yes, these cameras have their own personalities, but no-one can argue with > > the results. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > > From: stuartgoodman > > > > Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 04:42:27 EST > > > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > > barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... > > > > > > > > i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold on > > > > my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one came > > > > with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark on > > > > the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. the > > > > problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning of > > > > the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of frame > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > it's a great shame because the results the results look like large > > > > format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get the > > > > feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed the > > > > camel. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > stuart goodman > > > > > > > > On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > > > > > > > > > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > > > > > > > > > BF > > > > >> > > > > >> From: Eric Goldstein > > > > >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > > > > >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega > > > > >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the > > > > >> first production version? > > > > >> > > > > >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > > > > >> > > > > >> Eric Goldstein > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: Barry F > > > > >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > > > > >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > > > > >> > > > > >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, > > > > >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > > > > >> > > > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > > > > >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > > > > >> > > > > >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours > > > > >> left. > > > > >> > > > > >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best, > > > > >> Barry > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > From sheba at attitude.com Sun Feb 27 02:08:11 2005 From: sheba at attitude.com (Randy & Amy) Date: Sun Feb 27 02:08:07 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay References: <20050225151447.QXCS867.lakermmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <001f01c51c9b$1b1a6370$91338ed1@user7sx4r0irls> Barry, Nice shot on photo.net. Great job of lighting control. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry F" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > Hi, Randy, > Yes, we still put the site to use from time to time, even though there are long periods of inactivity. We appreciate it. If you have a ten-month old, you should be taking lots of pictures. I have an 11-month old grand-daughter, and I burn film on her frequently. Here's a link: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3073389 > > We raised five, and have lots of pictures. > > Best, > Barry > > > > > From: "Randy & Amy" > > Date: 2005/02/25 Fri AM 12:25:44 EST > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > I'm glad to see people still make use of my site. I wish I had more time to > > do more but with a 10 month old little one around, not much time for > > anything but him. Good to see someone still out there interested in the > > Koni's. Happy shooting. > > Randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barry F" > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:26 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > Stuart: > > > I am assuming you are using a 120 film back. The 220 film back has the > > index mark in a different place. > > > > > > Anyway, if you are starting out in the right place with the arrow on the > > film aligned with the mark on the back, and your first picture is not at the > > first of the roll, then either you are not pulling the lever out all the way > > before pushing it back in, or there is a problem with the back. If the back > > is the problem, it can be fixed. No need to dispose of the whole camera. I > > personally don't have the time, energy, or inclination to try dismantling > > the clutch mechanism myself, but you can send the back to Greg Weber and > > he'll do a nice tune-up on it. His toll-free number is 877.721.3873. His > > web site is www.webercamera.com. > > > > > > Yes, these cameras have their own personalities, but no-one can argue with > > the results. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > > From: stuartgoodman > > > > Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 04:42:27 EST > > > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > > barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... > > > > > > > > i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold on > > > > my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one came > > > > with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark on > > > > the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. the > > > > problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning of > > > > the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of frame > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > it's a great shame because the results the results look like large > > > > format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get the > > > > feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed the > > > > camel. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > stuart goodman > > > > > > > > On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > > > > > > > > > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > > > > > > > > > BF > > > > >> > > > > >> From: Eric Goldstein > > > > >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > > > > >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega > > > > >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the > > > > >> first production version? > > > > >> > > > > >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > > > > >> > > > > >> Eric Goldstein > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: Barry F > > > > >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > > > > >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > > > > >> > > > > >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, > > > > >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > > > > >> > > > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > > > > >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > > > > >> > > > > >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours > > > > >> left. > > > > >> > > > > >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best, > > > > >> Barry > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > From afs760bf at cox.net Mon Feb 28 09:53:11 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Mon Feb 28 09:53:14 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay Message-ID: <20050228145311.IKOM11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> My local pro lab will put a roll of medium format koni negs on a disk for eight bucks. I have an Epson 2400 flatbed scanner I got for about $150 that will do medium format. Neither does well enough to make 8x10 prints, but good enough to put on the web. Here's a couple I scanned on the snanner: http://www.koni-omega.org/discus/messages/15/325.html?1044654238 http://www.koni-omega.org/discus/messages/15/433.html?1057113454 Hope the links work. Best, Barry > > From: "Randy & Amy" > Date: 2005/02/27 Sun AM 02:05:25 EST > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > Hi Berry, > Yes I've taken loads of pics of my son but unfortunately I have no way of > putting my Koni shots up on the web. Having the negs scanned is out of my > price league, however I have many digital shots as well that I have not > posted on my site yet. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry F" > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > Hi, Randy, > > Yes, we still put the site to use from time to time, even though there are > long periods of inactivity. We appreciate it. If you have a ten-month old, > you should be taking lots of pictures. I have an 11-month old > grand-daughter, and I burn film on her frequently. Here's a link: > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3073389 > > > > We raised five, and have lots of pictures. > > > > Best, > > Barry > > > > > > > > From: "Randy & Amy" > > > Date: 2005/02/25 Fri AM 12:25:44 EST > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > I'm glad to see people still make use of my site. I wish I had more > time to > > > do more but with a 10 month old little one around, not much time for > > > anything but him. Good to see someone still out there interested in > the > > > Koni's. Happy shooting. > > > Randy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Barry F" > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > > > > Stuart: > > > > I am assuming you are using a 120 film back. The 220 film back has > the > > > index mark in a different place. > > > > > > > > Anyway, if you are starting out in the right place with the arrow on > the > > > film aligned with the mark on the back, and your first picture is not at > the > > > first of the roll, then either you are not pulling the lever out all the > way > > > before pushing it back in, or there is a problem with the back. If the > back > > > is the problem, it can be fixed. No need to dispose of the whole > camera. I > > > personally don't have the time, energy, or inclination to try > dismantling > > > the clutch mechanism myself, but you can send the back to Greg Weber and > > > he'll do a nice tune-up on it. His toll-free number is 877.721.3873. > His > > > web site is www.webercamera.com. > > > > > > > > Yes, these cameras have their own personalities, but no-one can argue > with > > > the results. > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: stuartgoodman > > > > > Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 04:42:27 EST > > > > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > > > > barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... > > > > > > > > > > i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold > on > > > > > my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one > came > > > > > with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing > > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark > on > > > > > the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. > the > > > > > problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning > of > > > > > the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of > frame > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > it's a great shame because the results the results look like large > > > > > format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get > the > > > > > feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed > the > > > > > camel. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > stuart goodman > > > > > > > > > > On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > BF > > > > > >> > > > > > >> From: Eric Goldstein > > > > > >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > > > > > >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega > > > > > >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the > > > > > >> first production version? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Eric Goldstein > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> From: Barry F > > > > > >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > > > > > >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, > > > > > >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > > > > > >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours > > > > > >> left. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Best, > > > > > >> Barry > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From sheba at attitude.com Tue Mar 1 01:55:33 2005 From: sheba at attitude.com (Randy & Amy) Date: Tue Mar 1 01:55:39 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay References: <20050228145311.IKOM11124.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <001401c51e2b$ab160060$ad338ed1@user7sx4r0irls> One of these days I'll have to get one of the epson scanners, the newest model does quite well even to 8x10 negs. I have too many to pay a service bureau to scan. The closest town that offers this service is an hour away. It's unlikely with the advent of digital photography, that anyone in my town with bother to offer these services. I checked out your photos. Nice, I really like the red Oklahoma soil pic. I am biased towards landscapes so not knocking the portrait. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry F" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > My local pro lab will put a roll of medium format koni negs on a disk for eight bucks. I have an Epson 2400 flatbed scanner I got for about $150 that will do medium format. Neither does well enough to make 8x10 prints, but good enough to put on the web. Here's a couple I scanned on the snanner: > > http://www.koni-omega.org/discus/messages/15/325.html?1044654238 > > http://www.koni-omega.org/discus/messages/15/433.html?1057113454 > > Hope the links work. > > Best, > Barry > > > > From: "Randy & Amy" > > Date: 2005/02/27 Sun AM 02:05:25 EST > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > Hi Berry, > > Yes I've taken loads of pics of my son but unfortunately I have no way of > > putting my Koni shots up on the web. Having the negs scanned is out of my > > price league, however I have many digital shots as well that I have not > > posted on my site yet. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barry F" > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:14 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > Hi, Randy, > > > Yes, we still put the site to use from time to time, even though there are > > long periods of inactivity. We appreciate it. If you have a ten-month old, > > you should be taking lots of pictures. I have an 11-month old > > grand-daughter, and I burn film on her frequently. Here's a link: > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3073389 > > > > > > We raised five, and have lots of pictures. > > > > > > Best, > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Randy & Amy" > > > > Date: 2005/02/25 Fri AM 12:25:44 EST > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > > I'm glad to see people still make use of my site. I wish I had more > > time to > > > > do more but with a 10 month old little one around, not much time for > > > > anything but him. Good to see someone still out there interested in > > the > > > > Koni's. Happy shooting. > > > > Randy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Barry F" > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:26 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stuart: > > > > > I am assuming you are using a 120 film back. The 220 film back has > > the > > > > index mark in a different place. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, if you are starting out in the right place with the arrow on > > the > > > > film aligned with the mark on the back, and your first picture is not at > > the > > > > first of the roll, then either you are not pulling the lever out all the > > way > > > > before pushing it back in, or there is a problem with the back. If the > > back > > > > is the problem, it can be fixed. No need to dispose of the whole > > camera. I > > > > personally don't have the time, energy, or inclination to try > > dismantling > > > > the clutch mechanism myself, but you can send the back to Greg Weber and > > > > he'll do a nice tune-up on it. His toll-free number is 877.721.3873. > > His > > > > web site is www.webercamera.com. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, these cameras have their own personalities, but no-one can argue > > with > > > > the results. > > > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: stuartgoodman > > > > > > Date: 2005/02/24 Thu AM 04:42:27 EST > > > > > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > > > > > > > barry ,hope you don't mind i i ask some advice... > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm on my second camera, this one is an early rapid. i stupidly sold > > on > > > > > > my first, an immaculate 100 because of film overlap but this one > > came > > > > > > with instructions and i saw that i hadn't been loading the thing > > > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm still having problems with overlap. i load the arrow to the mark > > on > > > > > > the take up spool base, rotating by hand and not the wind on lever. > > the > > > > > > problem i'm getting is that frame 1 doesn't start at the beginning > > of > > > > > > the film...which means that i lose frame 10 and sometimes part of > > frame > > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a great shame because the results the results look like large > > > > > > format because the lenses are of such staggering quality . i get > > the > > > > > > feeling the camera was designed by the same committee that designed > > the > > > > > > camel. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > stuart goodman > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23 Feb 2005, at 18:24, Barry F wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > This looks like the version number 3 on Peter Lanczak's site here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.peterlanczak.de/simmon_omega120.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BF > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> From: Eric Goldstein > > > > > > >> Date: 2005/02/23 Wed AM 11:09:08 EST > > > > > > >> To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Re: Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Thanks for sending this along, Barry. I've seen the Simons-Omega > > > > > > >> prototype camera but this is different... wonder if this was the > > > > > > >> first production version? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> That Wollensak lens is a tessar-type just like our 90/3.5s... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Eric Goldstein > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > > >> From: Barry F > > > > > > >> Sent: Feb 23, 2005 11:00 AM > > > > > > >> To: koml@koni-omega.org, koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com > > > > > > >> Subject: [KOML] Omega 120 on ebay > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> If anyone gets this in time, and you are a "collector" of sorts, > > > > > > >> there is an old Omega 120 camera on ebay here: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > > > > > > >> ViewItem&category=710&item=3875256768&rd=1 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> If link doesn't work, item number is 3875256768. Only four hours > > > > > > >> left. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hadn't seen it before. It sneaked (snuk? snook?) up on me. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Best, > > > > > > >> Barry > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > >> KOML mailing list > > > > > > >> KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > > >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > From afs760bf at cox.net Tue Mar 1 13:30:50 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Tue Mar 1 13:30:57 2005 Subject: [KOML] Using the ground glass and tubes Message-ID: <20050301183051.UDZ19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> I have managed to procure a Koni-Omega close-up kit for my RO200 (or for my Rapid, for that matter), consisting of a ground glass attachment, a 3X Omegaflex magnifier that attaches nicely to the ground glass attachment, and two 10mm tubes, which can be used in tandem. So I was wondering if anyone had any sage advice on how to use these, particularly how to maintain focus after attaining it, while removing the loupe, ground glass, and replacing the back. Thought maybe it could provoke at least a little discussion. Best, Barry From RZM1 at pge.com Tue Mar 1 13:37:47 2005 From: RZM1 at pge.com (Martyn, Rick) Date: Tue Mar 1 13:37:51 2005 Subject: [KOML] Using the ground glass and tubes Message-ID: I would think that a VERY sturdy and well tightened tripod should be sufficient if care is used when during the removal/replacement process. Might also try hanging some weight below the tripod for added stability. Rick M. -----Original Message----- From: koml-bounces@koni-omega.org [mailto:koml-bounces@koni-omega.org] On Behalf Of Barry F Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:31 AM To: koml@koni-omega.org; koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com Subject: [KOML] Using the ground glass and tubes I have managed to procure a Koni-Omega close-up kit for my RO200 (or for my Rapid, for that matter), consisting of a ground glass attachment, a 3X Omegaflex magnifier that attaches nicely to the ground glass attachment, and two 10mm tubes, which can be used in tandem. So I was wondering if anyone had any sage advice on how to use these, particularly how to maintain focus after attaining it, while removing the loupe, ground glass, and replacing the back. Thought maybe it could provoke at least a little discussion. Best, Barry _______________________________________________ KOML mailing list KOML@koni-omega.org http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From gabe at regalbuto.net Wed Mar 9 12:57:55 2005 From: gabe at regalbuto.net (Gabriel Regalbuto) Date: Wed Mar 9 12:57:46 2005 Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? Message-ID: <422F3923.7070107@regalbuto.net> Hi folks, Most of my photography is done at the end of a hike, so I don't need to explain to you why I'm finally parting with my Koni system. I would, however, appreciate advice on how to go about it. I have a 200 body, 2x 120 & 1x 220 back, 2x darkslide, extra magazine cover, 58mm w/finder, 180mm, 90mm, sports finder, original case, and even the system sales brochure. Should I part this stuff out on ebay or keep it all together? Looking at recently completed items I could not find such a complete system. Maybe I should break out a few components? Thanks for your thoughts, Gabriel Regalbuto From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Wed Mar 9 14:19:46 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (Archer Enterprises) Date: Wed Mar 9 14:09:58 2005 Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? References: <422F3923.7070107@regalbuto.net> Message-ID: <002201c524dc$f5bf7ee0$d4b4fa04@user> IMHO, you`ll do substantially better ($-wise) by parting it out....I would sell the body, 120 back, and 90mm as a unit, and piece everything else out. Regards, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Regalbuto" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? > Hi folks, > > Most of my photography is done at the end of a hike, so I don't need to > explain to you why I'm finally parting with my Koni system. I would, > however, appreciate advice on how to go about it. I have a 200 body, 2x > 120 & 1x 220 back, 2x darkslide, extra magazine cover, 58mm w/finder, > 180mm, 90mm, sports finder, original case, and even the system sales > brochure. > > Should I part this stuff out on ebay or keep it all together? Looking > at recently completed items I could not find such a complete system. > Maybe I should break out a few components? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Gabriel Regalbuto > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From afs760bf at cox.net Wed Mar 9 14:25:21 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Wed Mar 9 14:25:24 2005 Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? Message-ID: <20050309192523.IJNW29924.lakermmtao10.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Dear Gabriel, Normally, you will get more for your stuff if you sell it by the piece, since most people are looking to complete a collection. You could try listing it in the classifieds on a place like photo.net, which doesn't cost anything, to see if you get some interest in the whole system. Best, Barry > > From: Gabriel Regalbuto > Date: 2005/03/09 Wed PM 12:57:55 EST > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? > > Hi folks, > > Most of my photography is done at the end of a hike, so I don't need to > explain to you why I'm finally parting with my Koni system. I would, > however, appreciate advice on how to go about it. I have a 200 body, 2x > 120 & 1x 220 back, 2x darkslide, extra magazine cover, 58mm w/finder, > 180mm, 90mm, sports finder, original case, and even the system sales > brochure. > > Should I part this stuff out on ebay or keep it all together? Looking > at recently completed items I could not find such a complete system. > Maybe I should break out a few components? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Gabriel Regalbuto > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From wicklund at eskimo.com Wed Mar 9 15:39:45 2005 From: wicklund at eskimo.com (Thomas Wicklund) Date: Wed Mar 9 16:05:49 2005 Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? In-Reply-To: <002201c524dc$f5bf7ee0$d4b4fa04@user> References: <422F3923.7070107@regalbuto.net> <002201c524dc$f5bf7ee0$d4b4fa04@user> Message-ID: <200503092039.MAA06215@eskimo.com> Agreed. That's how I'd sell it. I've created much of my collection by buying a complete system, keeping one or two pieces of it, and selling the rest piecemeal. I'd even realize a profit except that a percentage of stuff is broken (from a seller who is either ignorant of cameras or conveniently claims ignorance). I won't knowingly sell broken equipment as "condition unknown". Thomas Wicklund Archer Enterprises writes: > IMHO, you`ll do substantially better ($-wise) by parting it out....I would > sell the body, 120 back, and 90mm as a unit, and piece everything else out. > > Regards, > Robert > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gabriel Regalbuto" > > > Should I part this stuff out on ebay or keep it all together? Looking > > at recently completed items I could not find such a complete system. > > Maybe I should break out a few components? From mkochsch at shaw.ca Wed Mar 9 21:32:07 2005 From: mkochsch at shaw.ca (Michael Koch-Schulte) Date: Wed Mar 9 21:32:54 2005 Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? References: <422F3923.7070107@regalbuto.net> Message-ID: <018201c52519$5b09b4a0$b200a8c0@Sweetwood> Gabriel Regalbuto wrote: > Hi folks, > > Most of my photography is done at the end of a hike, so I don't need > to explain to you why I'm finally parting with my Koni system. I > would, however, appreciate advice on how to go about it. I have a > 200 body, 2x 120 & 1x 220 back, 2x darkslide, extra magazine cover, > 58mm w/finder, 180mm, 90mm, sports finder, original case, and even > the system sales brochure. > > Should I part this stuff out on ebay or keep it all together? Looking > at recently completed items I could not find such a complete system. > Maybe I should break out a few components? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Gabriel Regalbuto > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml I'm sure you'd get better money by splitting it up. But really what you've built here is a "system" that works. Why not take the time to advertise locally in a paper or art school and see if you can find an amateur (one who acts or engages for the love of doing so) and offer it to them at a fair price. From PinholeRenner at netscape.net Wed Mar 9 22:51:47 2005 From: PinholeRenner at netscape.net (PinholeRenner@netscape.net) Date: Wed Mar 9 22:53:52 2005 Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? Message-ID: <1D7C4619.5F2E2BC6.0D149C81@netscape.net> >Archer Enterprises writes: > > IMHO, you`ll do substantially better ($-wise) by parting it out....I would > > sell the body, 120 back, and 90mm as a unit, and piece everything else out. > > > > Regards, > > Robert > > > > he is right so I won't even go there however you should also plan out how you want to sell it.e-bay is your best choice .place your add on a thursday [10 day auction] night so it goes off about 10:30 to 11:00 pm eastern time.this will get you exposure on 2 sunday nights , the best time to get bids.you want the people who live on the west coast the chance to bid as well as the east coast.you can break the system down to even the dark slides & 58mm eye piece.go to compleated sales & put koni omega into the compleated search section.this will give you a good Idea of what sells & for how much.even the koni cable release will usually get a good price.do not put to high of a price on it.the market always dictates the price.unless the equipment is flawed you should get the high return.you want to get several people bidding & if it is too high you will not get that.add images of the items you are selling.you could even add an image you may have taken with the camera [only if it is outstanding]to hook some person who wants to move up to med.format.good luck chip renner > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gabriel Regalbuto" > > > > > Should I part this stuff out on ebay or keep it all together? Looking > > > at recently completed items I could not find such a complete system. > > > Maybe I should break out a few components? >_______________________________________________ >KOML mailing list >KOML@koni-omega.org >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From mkochsch at shaw.ca Sun Mar 13 13:37:36 2005 From: mkochsch at shaw.ca (Michael Koch-Schulte) Date: Sun Mar 13 13:40:25 2005 Subject: [KOML] What to do with my Koni outfit? References: <1D7C4619.5F2E2BC6.0D149C81@netscape.net> Message-ID: <029b01c527fb$ba83c6c0$b200a8c0@Sweetwood> OT. This is ridiculous. I've tried posting on numerous occassion to this list and my posts continue to not show up. "Suspicious Header" is the e-mail error I'm quoted. BUT, I can easily reply to existing posts. What's going on with this list? I've never had this happen on any other list and I subscribe to quite a few. frustrated, MKS PinholeRenner@netscape.net wrote: >>> Archer Enterprises writes: >>>> IMHO, you`ll do substantially better ($-wise) by parting it >>>> out....I would >>>> sell the body, 120 back, and 90mm as a unit, and piece everything >>>> else out. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> he is right so I won't even go there however you should also plan >>>> out how you want to sell it.e-bay is your best choice .place your >>>> add on a thursday [10 day auction] night so it goes off about >>>> 10:30 to 11:00 pm eastern time.this will get you exposure on 2 >>>> sunday nights , the best time to get bids.you want the people who >>>> live on the west coast the chance to bid as well as the east >>>> coast.you can break the system down to even the dark slides & 58mm >>>> eye piece.go to compleated sales & put koni omega into the >>>> compleated search section.this will give you a good Idea of what >>>> sells & for how much.even the koni cable release will usually get >>>> a good price.do not put to high of a price on it.the market always >>>> dictates the price.unless the equipment is flawed you should get >>>> the high return.you want to get several people bidding & if it is >>>> too high you will not get that.add images of the items you are >>>> selling.you could even add an image you may have taken with the >>>> camera [only if it is outstanding]to hook some person who wants to >>>> move up to med.format.good luck chip renner ----- Original Message >>>> ----- >>>> From: "Gabriel Regalbuto" >>>> >>>>> Should I part this stuff out on ebay or keep it all together? >>>>> Looking at recently completed items I could not find such a >>>>> complete system. Maybe I should break out a few components? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> KOML mailing list >>> KOML@koni-omega.org >>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml >>> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >> As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at >> http://isp.netscape.com/register >> >> Netscape. Just the Net You Need. >> >> New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >> Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >> Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> KOML mailing list >> KOML@koni-omega.org >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From KOMLadmin at koni-omega.org Sun Mar 13 20:28:51 2005 From: KOMLadmin at koni-omega.org (KOML Admin) Date: Sun Mar 13 20:28:58 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Suspicious Headers! Message-ID: >OT. This is ridiculous. I've tried posting on numerous occassion to this >list and my posts continue to not show up. "Suspicious Header" is the e-mail >error I'm quoted. BUT, I can easily reply to existing posts. What's going on >with this list? I've never had this happen on any other list and I subscribe >to quite a few. > >frustrated, >MKS Hello MKS, The error message usually indicates that you are sending HTML in your posts - this is not allowed on the list. When you reply to a plain text message the reply defaults to plain text. If you send a new message and have your EMail client configured to send HTML then your post will be rejected. Try sending plain text only. You should have all your posts appearing on the list! Good light, Clive From mkochsch at shaw.ca Sun Mar 13 21:16:57 2005 From: mkochsch at shaw.ca (Michael Koch-Schulte) Date: Sun Mar 13 21:18:08 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Suspicious Headers! References: Message-ID: <02ef01c5283b$e6175f00$b200a8c0@Sweetwood> Frack! Somehow my address book has two entries for the KOML one with and one without plain text checked. Thank you for the troubleshooting. My bad. mks KOML Admin wrote: >> OT. This is ridiculous. I've tried posting on numerous occassion to >> this list and my posts continue to not show up. "Suspicious Header" >> is the e-mail error I'm quoted. BUT, I can easily reply to existing >> posts. What's going on with this list? I've never had this happen on >> any other list and I subscribe to quite a few. >> >> frustrated, >> MKS > > > Hello MKS, > > The error message usually indicates that you are sending HTML in your > posts - this is not allowed on the list. > > When you reply to a plain text message the reply defaults to plain > text. If you send a new message and have your EMail client configured > to send HTML then your post will be rejected. > > Try sending plain text only. You should have all your posts > appearing on the list! > > Good light, > Clive > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From mkochsch at shaw.ca Sun Mar 20 20:54:40 2005 From: mkochsch at shaw.ca (Michael Koch-Schulte) Date: Sun Mar 20 20:54:50 2005 Subject: [KOML] Koni-Omega Rapid Shutter Misses Message-ID: <004201c52db8$f23acf60$0c00a8c0@Sweetwood> It's my first KO. Bought on ebay, probably needs a CLA but...I have this problem at least once a roll, usually after frame six, the shutter doesn't fire after being cocked or fires very late. The red dot is visable on the lens. I've tried manually re-cocking the lens shutter bar and that doesn't help. Is this a common problem? When there's no film in the camera it never has this problem, goes from one to ten perfectly. Thx. From dharmer at moranlord.com Mon Mar 21 03:48:07 2005 From: dharmer at moranlord.com (David Harmer) Date: Mon Mar 21 03:46:22 2005 Subject: [KOML] Koni-Omega Rapid Shutter Misses References: <004201c52db8$f23acf60$0c00a8c0@Sweetwood> Message-ID: <000e01c52df2$b44dcba0$d200a8c0@MEGAPC2> Hi I have seen this problem or something like it. If you experiment you may find that if you focus on something near, with the lens extended, it is worse, and if it is at infinity it is less of a problem. The shutter mechanism may need more than the force that it was designed with in order to fire, and a CLA would certainly help. It is made evident by the shutter firing linkage, which also pushes the film forward to the focal plane. With the film in, the shutter mechanism has more load, and when the lens is forward, there may be more play in the firing mechanism. All these factors show up as reluctance to fire, because the linkage has to exert more presssure than it was designed to do. I found that once my lens was sorted, the problem went away. I hope that this helps. David Harmer Moranlord Ltd Pallinghurst Farm Rudgwick West Sussex RH12 3BQ http://www.moranlord.co.uk tel 44 1403 822227 fax 44 1403 823388 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Koch-Schulte" To: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 1:54 AM Subject: [KOML] Koni-Omega Rapid Shutter Misses > It's my first KO. Bought on ebay, probably needs a CLA but...I have this > problem at least once a roll, usually after frame six, the shutter doesn't > fire after being cocked or fires very late. The red dot is visable on the > lens. I've tried manually re-cocking the lens shutter bar and that doesn't > help. Is this a common problem? When there's no film in the camera it > never > has this problem, goes from one to ten perfectly. Thx. > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From photoawards at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 19:36:11 2005 From: photoawards at gmail.com (Hossein Farmani) Date: Wed Mar 30 19:36:12 2005 Subject: [KOML] What's Your Best Shot? Message-ID: <7b49ee590503301636c718487@mail.gmail.com> What's the best photo you've ever taken? It's time the world got to see it. Submit your best shot(s) to the annual International Photography Awards! (http://www.photoawards.com) The International Photography Awards conducts two parallel competitions each year, one for professional photographers, who earn the majority of their livelihood from their craft, and a second for nonprofessional or amateur shutterbugs. It's open to photographers from every country of the world. Certificates of excellence will be awarded in all sub-categories to both groups: professionals and nonprofessionals (including students) competing in separate pools. The professionals and nonprofessionals major winners-will also compete for the coveted title of International Photographer of the Year and the $10,000 prize. The recipient of this top honor will be announced at the Lucie Awards ceremony. The work of all of the winners will be published in the annual International Photography Awards Book and possibly displayed in a prestigious gallery in Los Angeles. In addition, the fifteen finalists (eight professionals and seven nonprofessionals) will also receive two tickets each to the Lucie Awards ceremony. (To find out more about the distinguished Lucie Awards, go here: http://www.lucieawards.com/) The deadline to submit your entries is May 31, 2005. What are you waiting for? From afs760bf at cox.net Mon May 16 14:32:31 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Mon May 16 14:32:35 2005 Subject: [KOML] KO 135mm on ebay - getting cheaper Message-ID: <20050516183233.PCCC13442.lakermmtao05.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> There's a 135mm lens for the Rapid Omega on ebay. Prices are coming down. This one starts bidding at $390, and looks pretty nice. Item number 7516401238. There are also a couple of Omegaflexes on the bay this week, but they seem pretty expensive to me. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=710&item=7516401238&rd=1 No, it's not mine. Mine's not for sale. Best, Barry From PinholeRenner at netscape.net Mon May 16 18:51:02 2005 From: PinholeRenner at netscape.net (PinholeRenner@netscape.net) Date: Mon May 16 18:51:07 2005 Subject: [KOML] KO 135mm on ebay - getting cheaper Message-ID: <29CCF47D.26EFD123.0D149C81@netscape.net> Barry F wrote: >There's a 135mm lens for the Rapid Omega on ebay. Prices are coming down. This one starts bidding at $390, and looks pretty nice. Item number 7516401238. There are also a couple of Omegaflexes on the bay this week, but they seem pretty expensive to me. > it ain't over till its over! >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=710&item=7516401238&rd=1 > >No, it's not mine. Mine's not for sale. > >Best, >Barry > >_______________________________________________ >KOML mailing list >KOML@koni-omega.org >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From ward at ballpeen.net Thu Jun 23 17:51:54 2005 From: ward at ballpeen.net (Reagen B. Ward) Date: Thu Jun 23 17:52:00 2005 Subject: [KOML] body cap? Message-ID: <20050623215154.GV28114@ballpeen.net> Here's a question for which I cannot find an answer: Where might one find a body cap for a KO Rapid? I have a bag that I like, but my 200 will only fit with the lens detached. Reagen From ttirebuck at sympatico.ca Thu Jun 23 18:18:38 2005 From: ttirebuck at sympatico.ca (Trevor Tirebuck) Date: Thu Jun 23 18:18:35 2005 Subject: [KOML] body cap? In-Reply-To: <20050623215154.GV28114@ballpeen.net> References: <20050623215154.GV28114@ballpeen.net> Message-ID: <42BB353E.9020806@sympatico.ca> Never heard of one. My Rapid-Omega came with 90mm attached. Trevor. Reagen B. Ward wrote: >Here's a question for which I cannot find an answer: > >Where might one find a body cap for a KO Rapid? I have a bag that I >like, but my 200 will only fit with the lens detached. > > >Reagen >_______________________________________________ >KOML mailing list >KOML@koni-omega.org >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Thu Jun 23 21:41:48 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Thu Jun 23 22:02:59 2005 Subject: [KOML] body cap? References: <20050623215154.GV28114@ballpeen.net> Message-ID: <010101c5785d$e43cab00$554af804@pwdspc001> Over the years I`ve owned just about all the bits & pieces for the Konis, but don`t believe I ever heard of a body cap for this series of camera. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reagen B. Ward" To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: [KOML] body cap? > Here's a question for which I cannot find an answer: > > Where might one find a body cap for a KO Rapid? I have a bag that I > like, but my 200 will only fit with the lens detached. > > > Reagen > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From afs760bf at cox.net Fri Jul 29 16:11:39 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Fri Jul 29 16:11:59 2005 Subject: [KOML] 135mm on ebay Message-ID: <20050729201140.LSLL12912.eastrmmtao01.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> If anyone is interested: Adorama has a 135mm Koni-Omega lens on ebay. No reserve. Price is presently at $91. Located here: http://tinyurl.com/7rz3b item # 7534768822 They also have a 135mm lens for an Omegaflex, and have some other Koni stuff for sale. Have a 60mm Koni-Omega lens with a starting price of $175, but the 135mm had a starting price of $9.99. Go figure. Best, Barry From Rupert_Jessop at discovery-europe.com Fri Jul 29 17:09:06 2005 From: Rupert_Jessop at discovery-europe.com (Rupert_Jessop@discovery-europe.com) Date: Fri Jul 29 17:09:43 2005 Subject: [KOML] Rupert Jessop/UK/Europe/DCI is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 27/07/2005 and will not return until 01/08/2005. I am out - If anything urgent comes up please speak with Amy Mendell ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Mon Aug 22 14:35:46 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Mon Aug 22 14:35:57 2005 Subject: [KOML] new subscriber Message-ID: <20050822183546.64993.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Omega fans, How dificult is it to find used Omega cameras and accesories. Im considering a Koni 200 rapid because of the interchangable film backs . I also would need the ground glass atachment to do close up work Thanks Bob ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From raynieves at affinityplan.org Mon Aug 22 14:42:40 2005 From: raynieves at affinityplan.org (Ray Nieves) Date: Mon Aug 22 14:37:13 2005 Subject: [KOML] new subscriber Message-ID: On Vacation and will return Aug 29. Contact Evelyn Rodriquez if you need assistance. From ward at ballpeen.net Mon Aug 22 14:44:13 2005 From: ward at ballpeen.net (Reagen B. Ward) Date: Mon Aug 22 14:44:18 2005 Subject: [KOML] new subscriber In-Reply-To: <20050822183546.64993.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050822183546.64993.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050822184413.GS21716@ballpeen.net> On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 11:35:46AM -0700, BOB TOWNSED wrote: > Dear Omega fans, > > How dificult is it to find used Omega cameras and > accesories. Im considering a Koni 200 rapid because > of the interchangable film backs . I also would need > the ground glass atachment to do close up work I have a used 200 from adorama that they refused to make right after it arrived in need of help - bad back, missing dark slide, needs CLA. If you're up for having it worked on, I can make you or anyone else a deal. Reply offlist if interested. R From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Mon Aug 22 19:24:26 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Mon Aug 22 19:26:20 2005 Subject: [KOML] new subscriber References: <20050822183546.64993.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004a01c5a770$a4991a00$f349f804@pwdspc001> K-O bodies, backs, & lenses are readily available at fairly modest prices. The accessories (GG back, extension tubes, etc.) are a little more scarce and demand a good buck. IMHO, the K-Os are not a very good choice for close-up work....they`re better "people" and landscape cameras . A better choice for MF close-up work might be something like a Pentax 645 w/ 1-to-1 macro 120mm lens. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB TOWNSED" To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: [KOML] new subscriber > Dear Omega fans, > > How dificult is it to find used Omega cameras and > accesories. Im considering a Koni 200 rapid because > of the interchangable film backs . I also would need > the ground glass atachment to do close up work > Thanks > Bob > > From egoldste at earthlink.net Mon Aug 22 19:33:01 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Mon Aug 22 19:33:04 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: new subscriber In-Reply-To: <004a01c5a770$a4991a00$f349f804@pwdspc001> Message-ID: ArcherEnterprises: > K-O bodies, backs, & lenses are readily available at fairly modest prices. > The accessories (GG back, extension tubes, etc.) are a little more scarce > and demand a good buck. IMHO, the K-Os are not a very good choice for > close-up work....they`re better "people" and landscape cameras . A better > choice for MF close-up work might be something like a Pentax 645 w/ 1-to-1 > macro 120mm lens. > > Robert I second this. Close up is not the K-O's strength. Look at a Mamaya or Pentax 67 with macro lens and tubes or bellows. 645 is ok if you don't mind the step down in neg size... Eric Goldstein From afs760bf at cox.net Mon Aug 22 21:13:57 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Mon Aug 22 21:13:58 2005 Subject: [KOML] new subscriber Message-ID: <20050823011358.KIOH15295.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> I agree with Robert. Great camera, reasonable prices, but takes too long and somewhat frustrating for closeup work. You have to be able to focus the ground glass, remove it, replace it with a back, close lens aperture, remove dark slide, and then fire without moving the camera. Pretty difficult. Best, Barry > > From: "ArcherEnterprises" > Date: 2005/08/22 Mon PM 07:24:26 EDT > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Subject: Re: [KOML] new subscriber > > K-O bodies, backs, & lenses are readily available at fairly modest prices. > The accessories (GG back, extension tubes, etc.) are a little more scarce > and demand a good buck. IMHO, the K-Os are not a very good choice for > close-up work....they`re better "people" and landscape cameras . A better > choice for MF close-up work might be something like a Pentax 645 w/ 1-to-1 > macro 120mm lens. > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:35 PM > Subject: [KOML] new subscriber > > > > Dear Omega fans, > > > > How dificult is it to find used Omega cameras and > > accesories. Im considering a Koni 200 rapid because > > of the interchangable film backs . I also would need > > the ground glass atachment to do close up work > > Thanks > > Bob > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From wicklund at eskimo.com Tue Aug 23 22:47:11 2005 From: wicklund at eskimo.com (Thomas Wicklund) Date: Tue Aug 23 22:47:29 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: new subscriber In-Reply-To: References: <004a01c5a770$a4991a00$f349f804@pwdspc001> Message-ID: <200508240247.TAA26982@eskimo.com> Eric Goldstein writes: > I second this. Close up is not the K-O's strength. Look at a Mamaya or > Pentax 67 with macro lens and tubes or bellows. 645 is ok if you don't mind > the step down in neg size... Agreed. An SLR is much better for close ups unless you really enjoy the process. Tom From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Tue Aug 30 12:57:49 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Tue Aug 30 12:57:52 2005 Subject: [KOML] THANKS FOR INFO Message-ID: <20050830165749.40489.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for your advice on the KONI OMEGA AT CLOSE UP USE. I have a good tripod that I use for 4x5 that may keep the camera in position with all the changing. Im use to looking and focusing on a ground glass. Much of the close up stuff I do is not super close up ( I use my 35mm for that with ext.tubes) . Is the viewfinder acurate say to around 4 or 5 feet . Thanks again Bob ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From egoldste at earthlink.net Tue Aug 30 16:13:04 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Tue Aug 30 16:13:19 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO In-Reply-To: <20050830165749.40489.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: BOB TOWNSED: > Thanks for your advice on the KONI OMEGA AT CLOSE > UP USE. > I have a good tripod that I use for 4x5 that may > keep the camera in position with all the changing. > Im use to looking and focusing on a ground glass. > Much of the close up stuff I do is not super close up > ( I use my 35mm for that with ext.tubes) . Is the > viewfinder acurate say to around 4 or 5 feet . It really can't be. Same for the omega-flex. Especially close in, you will see perspective errors; the position of objects relative to each other will be different between the viewing and taking lenses. The only way to deal with this on these cameras is to use the GG attachment or relocate the taking lens to the position of the viewing lens... a PIA. Eric Goldstein From afs760bf at cox.net Wed Aug 31 10:19:03 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Wed Aug 31 10:19:06 2005 Subject: [KOML] THANKS FOR INFO Message-ID: <20050831141904.DYRI29674.eastrmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> If you're using it that close, you'll have to use the ground glass anyway, so that will tell you exactly what will be in the frame, if you can keep the camera from moving while you replace the GG with the back, and remove the dark slide. The viewfinder on the Koni-Omega will not focus that closely. An Omegaflex will focus perhaps, but you're pushing the envelope at four feet, although I'm told that the flex will focus to about four feet. By the way, I have aquired an Omegaflex with 90 and 135mm lenses, so I'm going to get a chance to find out if that is the case. I'm looking forward to it, if I can ever find the time. Barry > > From: BOB TOWNSED > Date: 2005/08/30 Tue PM 12:57:49 EDT > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: [KOML] THANKS FOR INFO > > Thanks for your advice on the KONI OMEGA AT CLOSE > UP USE. > I have a good tripod that I use for 4x5 that may > keep the camera in position with all the changing. > Im use to looking and focusing on a ground glass. > Much of the close up stuff I do is not super close up > ( I use my 35mm for that with ext.tubes) . Is the > viewfinder acurate say to around 4 or 5 feet . > Thanks again > Bob > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Fri Sep 2 14:54:59 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:55:01 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050902185459.28915.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, Im under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does not allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the use of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid 100 is easier to find . How much should I pay for the ground glass attachment. Thanks, Bob --- Eric Goldstein wrote: > BOB TOWNSED: > > > Thanks for your advice on the KONI OMEGA AT CLOSE > > UP USE. > > I have a good tripod that I use for 4x5 that may > > keep the camera in position with all the changing. > > Im use to looking and focusing on a ground glass. > > Much of the close up stuff I do is not super close > up > > ( I use my 35mm for that with ext.tubes) . Is the > > viewfinder acurate say to around 4 or 5 feet . > > > It really can't be. Same for the omega-flex. > Especially close in, you will > see perspective errors; the position of objects > relative to each other will > be different between the viewing and taking lenses. > The only way to deal > with this on these cameras is to use the GG > attachment or relocate the > taking lens to the position of the viewing lens... a > PIA. > > > Eric Goldstein > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From afs760bf at cox.net Fri Sep 2 16:35:39 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:36:05 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO Message-ID: <20050902203539.FDGR20229.eastrmmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> The RO-100 does use interchangeable backs, but you can't change the back in mid-roll, because it does not provide for interchangeable magazines. It would be difficult to use the ground glass attachment without exposing the film. I guess maybe you could do it for one frame - the first one - but I'm not sure the GG would fit inside the magazine. You could focus with the ground glass, put the dark slide in place, place the back on the camera, advance to the first frame, remove the dark slide, set aperture, and take the shot. Your chances of not moving the camera while doing that are not good. I would suggest trying to pick up a RO-200 on ebay and plan to have it CLA'd, or buy one from Adorama or B&H, or some other reputable outfit. The ground glass, if you can find one, will cost you probably over a hundred bucks. Best, Barry > > From: BOB TOWNSED > Date: 2005/09/02 Fri PM 02:54:59 EDT > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid > . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, Im > under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does not > allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the use > of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid 100 is > easier to find . How much should I pay for the ground > glass attachment. > Thanks, > Bob > > --- Eric Goldstein wrote: > > > BOB TOWNSED: > > > > > Thanks for your advice on the KONI OMEGA AT CLOSE > > > UP USE. > > > I have a good tripod that I use for 4x5 that may > > > keep the camera in position with all the changing. > > > Im use to looking and focusing on a ground glass. > > > Much of the close up stuff I do is not super close > > up > > > ( I use my 35mm for that with ext.tubes) . Is the > > > viewfinder acurate say to around 4 or 5 feet . > > > > > > It really can't be. Same for the omega-flex. > > Especially close in, you will > > see perspective errors; the position of objects > > relative to each other will > > be different between the viewing and taking lenses. > > The only way to deal > > with this on these cameras is to use the GG > > attachment or relocate the > > taking lens to the position of the viewing lens... a > > PIA. > > > > > > Eric Goldstein > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Fri Sep 2 21:48:34 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Fri Sep 2 21:54:22 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO References: <20050902185459.28915.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c5b029$99a98aa0$344cf804@pwdspc001> Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s available....look under listings for "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". Although they`re basically the same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", and "200" have the film magazines that allow for mid-roll film changes.GG attachments usually sell for around $100 or thereabouts. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB TOWNSED" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid > . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, Im > under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does not > allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the use > of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid 100 is > easier to find . How much should I pay for the ground > glass attachment. > Thanks, > Bob > From steve at everett.cc Sun Sep 4 06:21:18 2005 From: steve at everett.cc (Steve Everett) Date: Sun Sep 4 06:21:31 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO References: <20050902185459.28915.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000e01c5b029$99a98aa0$344cf804@pwdspc001> Message-ID: <001f01c5b13a$64518210$6501a8c0@home> I've used the Koni-Omega a lot with ground glass. I found it difficult to find and I didn't want to pay the price for the original glass so I made my own. I had read cellophane tape works so I tried it. It worked but was a pain to remove before placing the back on the magazine. I read the original Koni glass was off-set by .008 which placed it down into the film rails. What I ended up doing was using Lexan, cutting .008 off the edges, where it sits on the film rails, then sand blasting the surface to give it a ground glass texture. I then mounted it on an extra magazine. Magazines are cheap and easy to get. I disabled the dark slide catches so that I can remove the magazine without inserting the dark slide. I found the sand blasted surface too grainy for accurate focusing and went to wet sanding. I've experimented with many of these Lexan GG and found that to get the sharpest, detailed, image I could I needed only a light rub with a 1500 wet and dry sandpaper. The draw back to this is the image is very dark. I used a magnifying glass too focus but found I couldn't hold the distance right so I bought a loop. I also discovered that the off-set was not necessary. A flat piece of Lexan works fine. After a while I grew tired of fighting with a loop while focusing and bought a 3X eye piece. I built a box, from Lexan, to hold the eye piece at the right distance from the GG. I painted the box flat black and attached it over the GG using the little clamps already in the magazine. Now using ground glass is not a half an hour chore. I insert my GG magazine, focus, remove, install the film magazine, cock shutter at the lens, remove the dark slide, and take the picture. It's still not a point and shoot but it allow me to use close up lens. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "ArcherEnterprises" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s available....look under listings for > "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". Although they`re basically the > same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", and "200" have the film > magazines that allow for mid-roll film changes.GG attachments usually sell > for around $100 or thereabouts. > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > >> Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid >> . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, Im >> under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does not >> allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the use >> of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid 100 is >> easier to find . How much should I pay for the ground >> glass attachment. >> Thanks, >> Bob >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Sun Sep 4 11:12:44 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Sun Sep 4 11:12:11 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO References: <20050902185459.28915.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com><000e01c5b029$99a98aa0$344cf804@pwdspc001> <001f01c5b13a$64518210$6501a8c0@home> Message-ID: <001a01c5b163$1b5410e0$bf4ef804@pwdspc001> I did the same thing....used a spare magazine with a piece of ground glass that I cut down to the proper size (you can often find pieces of GG on e-Bay at reasonable cost). This is a more cost-effective solution rather than paying the price for a real K-O GG. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Everett" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > I've used the Koni-Omega a lot with ground glass. I found it difficult to > find and I didn't want to pay the price for the original glass so I made my > own. I had read cellophane tape works so I tried it. It worked but was a > pain to remove before placing the back on the magazine. I read the original > Koni glass was off-set by .008 which placed it down into the film rails. > What I ended up doing was using Lexan, cutting .008 off the edges, where it > sits on the film rails, then sand blasting the surface to give it a ground > glass texture. I then mounted it on an extra magazine. Magazines are cheap > and easy to get. I disabled the dark slide catches so that I can remove the > magazine without inserting the dark slide. I found the sand blasted surface > too grainy for accurate focusing and went to wet sanding. I've experimented > with many of these Lexan GG and found that to get the sharpest, detailed, > image I could I needed only a light rub with a 1500 wet and dry sandpaper. > The draw back to this is the image is very dark. I used a magnifying glass > too focus but found I couldn't hold the distance right so I bought a loop. I > also discovered that the off-set was not necessary. A flat piece of Lexan > works fine. After a while I grew tired of fighting with a loop while > focusing and bought a 3X eye piece. I built a box, from Lexan, to hold the > eye piece at the right distance from the GG. I painted the box flat black > and attached it over the GG using the little clamps already in the magazine. > Now using ground glass is not a half an hour chore. I insert my GG magazine, > focus, remove, install the film magazine, cock shutter at the lens, remove > the dark slide, and take the picture. It's still not a point and shoot but > it allow me to use close up lens. > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ArcherEnterprises" > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s available....look under listings for > > "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". Although they`re basically the > > same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", and "200" have the film > > magazines that allow for mid-roll film changes.GG attachments usually sell > > for around $100 or thereabouts. > > > > Robert > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > >> Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid > >> . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, Im > >> under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does not > >> allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the use > >> of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid 100 is > >> easier to find . How much should I pay for the ground > >> glass attachment. > >> Thanks, > >> Bob > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Wed Sep 7 14:44:24 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Wed Sep 7 14:44:26 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: OLIVE OIL In-Reply-To: <001f01c5b13a$64518210$6501a8c0@home> Message-ID: <20050907184424.25723.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I use Olive oil or corn oil on my 4 x 5 ground glass to make it lighter(much lighter) . Take a piece of paper towel and put just a drop of oil on it . Spread it over the ground glass very thinly . Then whipe up the excess with a clean paper towel . Wipe very well. Note: once you do this it is impossible to return the glass to its original density. You may want to do just the center. The glass is way clearer so it may not be as projectable of the image . Also, it is much easier to see the corners of the image . With my 4 x 5 this is very important . The image is also sharper because of less difusion . Good luck; Bob --- Steve Everett wrote: > I've used the Koni-Omega a lot with ground glass. I > found it difficult to > find and I didn't want to pay the price for the > original glass so I made my > own. I had read cellophane tape works so I tried it. > It worked but was a > pain to remove before placing the back on the > magazine. I read the original > Koni glass was off-set by .008 which placed it down > into the film rails. > What I ended up doing was using Lexan, cutting .008 > off the edges, where it > sits on the film rails, then sand blasting the > surface to give it a ground > glass texture. I then mounted it on an extra > magazine. Magazines are cheap > and easy to get. I disabled the dark slide catches > so that I can remove the > magazine without inserting the dark slide. I found > the sand blasted surface > too grainy for accurate focusing and went to wet > sanding. I've experimented > with many of these Lexan GG and found that to get > the sharpest, detailed, > image I could I needed only a light rub with a 1500 > wet and dry sandpaper. > The draw back to this is the image is very dark. I > used a magnifying glass > too focus but found I couldn't hold the distance > right so I bought a loop. I > also discovered that the off-set was not necessary. > A flat piece of Lexan > works fine. After a while I grew tired of fighting > with a loop while > focusing and bought a 3X eye piece. I built a box, > from Lexan, to hold the > eye piece at the right distance from the GG. I > painted the box flat black > and attached it over the GG using the little clamps > already in the magazine. > Now using ground glass is not a half an hour chore. > I insert my GG magazine, > focus, remove, install the film magazine, cock > shutter at the lens, remove > the dark slide, and take the picture. It's still not > a point and shoot but > it allow me to use close up lens. > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ArcherEnterprises" > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s > available....look under listings for > > "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". Although > they`re basically the > > same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", and > "200" have the film > > magazines that allow for mid-roll film changes.GG > attachments usually sell > > for around $100 or thereabouts. > > > > Robert > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > >> Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid > >> . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, > Im > >> under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does > not > >> allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the > use > >> of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid > 100 is > >> easier to find . How much should I pay for the > ground > >> glass attachment. > >> Thanks, > >> Bob > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Wed Sep 7 14:58:39 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Wed Sep 7 14:58:41 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR ANSWER In-Reply-To: <20050902203539.FDGR20229.eastrmmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <20050907185839.19748.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes ,thats is what I have been hearing on the internet sites that the 100 omega will not allow mid roll film change. Bummer indeed . Im probably going to focus on the 200 Omega(get it , focus , ha ha) . 100 bucks is probably worth it considering the camera is inexpensive. Also how are the lenses ; Is the image sharp edge to edge ? Thanks again; Bob --- Barry F wrote: > The RO-100 does use interchangeable backs, but you > can't change the back in mid-roll, because it does > not provide for interchangeable magazines. It would > be difficult to use the ground glass attachment > without exposing the film. I guess maybe you could > do it for one frame - the first one - but I'm not > sure the GG would fit inside the magazine. You > could focus with the ground glass, put the dark > slide in place, place the back on the camera, > advance to the first frame, remove the dark slide, > set aperture, and take the shot. Your chances of > not moving the camera while doing that are not good. > I would suggest trying to pick up a RO-200 on ebay > and plan to have it CLA'd, or buy one from Adorama > or B&H, or some other reputable outfit. The ground > glass, if you can find one, will cost you probably > over a hundred bucks. > Best, > Barry > > > > From: BOB TOWNSED > > Date: 2005/09/02 Fri PM 02:54:59 EDT > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid > > . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, > Im > > under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does > not > > allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the > use > > of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid 100 > is > > easier to find . How much should I pay for the > ground > > glass attachment. > > Thanks, > > Bob > > > > --- Eric Goldstein wrote: > > > > > BOB TOWNSED: > > > > > > > Thanks for your advice on the KONI OMEGA AT > CLOSE > > > > UP USE. > > > > I have a good tripod that I use for 4x5 that > may > > > > keep the camera in position with all the > changing. > > > > Im use to looking and focusing on a ground > glass. > > > > Much of the close up stuff I do is not super > close > > > up > > > > ( I use my 35mm for that with ext.tubes) . Is > the > > > > viewfinder acurate say to around 4 or 5 feet . > > > > > > > > > It really can't be. Same for the omega-flex. > > > Especially close in, you will > > > see perspective errors; the position of objects > > > relative to each other will > > > be different between the viewing and taking > lenses. > > > The only way to deal > > > with this on these cameras is to use the GG > > > attachment or relocate the > > > taking lens to the position of the viewing > lens... a > > > PIA. > > > > > > > > > Eric Goldstein > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home > page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Wed Sep 7 20:02:55 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Wed Sep 7 20:05:49 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: OLIVE OIL References: <20050907184424.25723.qmail@web30714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003b01c5b408$ab0fbac0$8548f804@pwdspc001> Interesting.... I have a feeling that if you cleaned the GG *very* thorouhgly with naptha (Ronsonal or Zippo lighter fluid) it would be restored to it`s original state. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB TOWNSED" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: OLIVE OIL > I use Olive oil or corn oil on my 4 x 5 ground > glass to make it lighter(much lighter) . Take a piece > of paper towel and put just a drop of oil on it . > Spread it over the ground glass very thinly . Then > whipe up the excess with a clean paper towel . Wipe > very well. Note: once you do this it is impossible to > return the glass to its original density. You may want > to do just the center. The glass is way clearer so it > may not be as projectable of the image . Also, it is > much easier to see the corners of the image . With my > 4 x 5 this is very important . The image is also > sharper because of less difusion . > Good luck; > Bob > > > --- Steve Everett wrote: > > > I've used the Koni-Omega a lot with ground glass. I > > found it difficult to > > find and I didn't want to pay the price for the > > original glass so I made my > > own. I had read cellophane tape works so I tried it. > > It worked but was a > > pain to remove before placing the back on the > > magazine. I read the original > > Koni glass was off-set by .008 which placed it down > > into the film rails. > > What I ended up doing was using Lexan, cutting .008 > > off the edges, where it > > sits on the film rails, then sand blasting the > > surface to give it a ground > > glass texture. I then mounted it on an extra > > magazine. Magazines are cheap > > and easy to get. I disabled the dark slide catches > > so that I can remove the > > magazine without inserting the dark slide. I found > > the sand blasted surface > > too grainy for accurate focusing and went to wet > > sanding. I've experimented > > with many of these Lexan GG and found that to get > > the sharpest, detailed, > > image I could I needed only a light rub with a 1500 > > wet and dry sandpaper. > > The draw back to this is the image is very dark. I > > used a magnifying glass > > too focus but found I couldn't hold the distance > > right so I bought a loop. I > > also discovered that the off-set was not necessary. > > A flat piece of Lexan > > works fine. After a while I grew tired of fighting > > with a loop while > > focusing and bought a 3X eye piece. I built a box, > > from Lexan, to hold the > > eye piece at the right distance from the GG. I > > painted the box flat black > > and attached it over the GG using the little clamps > > already in the magazine. > > Now using ground glass is not a half an hour chore. > > I insert my GG magazine, > > focus, remove, install the film magazine, cock > > shutter at the lens, remove > > the dark slide, and take the picture. It's still not > > a point and shoot but > > it allow me to use close up lens. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ArcherEnterprises" > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s > > available....look under listings for > > > "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". Although > > they`re basically the > > > same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", and > > "200" have the film > > > magazines that allow for mid-roll film changes.GG > > attachments usually sell > > > for around $100 or thereabouts. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > > >> Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid > > >> . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, > > Im > > >> under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does > > not > > >> allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the > > use > > >> of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid > > 100 is > > >> easier to find . How much should I pay for the > > ground > > >> glass attachment. > > >> Thanks, > > >> Bob > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Wed Sep 7 20:43:56 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Wed Sep 7 20:46:51 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR ANSWER References: <20050907185839.19748.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008701c5b40e$65dc37c0$8548f804@pwdspc001> I`ve run a lot of Velvia through my Rapids, and usually do critical inspection of developed chromes through an 8-power loupe.... I`ve always been knocked out by the edge-to-edge detail in these slides. Somewhere on Robert Monaghan`s excellent Mega-Site, there`s a report of a comparison between Hassy and K-O lenses of (approx.) the same focal length, using identical film, same exposure, same scene, same tripod,developed under identical conditions.... after developing, negs were put on a light table, using masking tape to disguise the format of each.... several professional photogs were invited to critique the negs, and they all agreed that one was clearly superior. After unmasking, they were rather surprised to find that the K-O neg had trumped the mighty Hassleblad.... `nuff said? Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB TOWNSED" Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR ANSWER > Yes ,thats is what I have been hearing on the > internet sites that the 100 omega will not allow mid > roll film change. Bummer indeed . Im probably going to > focus on the 200 Omega(get it , focus , ha ha) . 100 > bucks is probably worth it considering the camera is > inexpensive. Also how are the lenses ; Is the image > sharp edge to edge ? > Thanks again; > Bob From afs760bf at cox.net Thu Sep 8 10:39:42 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Thu Sep 8 10:39:54 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR ANSWER Message-ID: <20050908143943.SEMI3718.centrmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> No problem with the lenses if you get clean ones. They are getting pretty old, and depending on storage are subject to mildew and fungus, but they are some of the best lenses ever made. You can do some googling on the web and find lens tests where the Koni lenses matched or beat anything else around. I have managed to get mint ones over the years for all except the 90. But the camera (once adjusted properly) and lenses are terrific. Best, Barry > > From: BOB TOWNSED > Date: 2005/09/07 Wed PM 02:58:39 EDT > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR ANSWER > > Yes ,thats is what I have been hearing on the > internet sites that the 100 omega will not allow mid > roll film change. Bummer indeed . Im probably going to > focus on the 200 Omega(get it , focus , ha ha) . 100 > bucks is probably worth it considering the camera is > inexpensive. Also how are the lenses ; Is the image > sharp edge to edge ? > Thanks again; > Bob > > --- Barry F wrote: > > > The RO-100 does use interchangeable backs, but you > > can't change the back in mid-roll, because it does > > not provide for interchangeable magazines. It would > > be difficult to use the ground glass attachment > > without exposing the film. I guess maybe you could > > do it for one frame - the first one - but I'm not > > sure the GG would fit inside the magazine. You > > could focus with the ground glass, put the dark > > slide in place, place the back on the camera, > > advance to the first frame, remove the dark slide, > > set aperture, and take the shot. Your chances of > > not moving the camera while doing that are not good. > > I would suggest trying to pick up a RO-200 on ebay > > and plan to have it CLA'd, or buy one from Adorama > > or B&H, or some other reputable outfit. The ground > > glass, if you can find one, will cost you probably > > over a hundred bucks. > > Best, > > Barry > > > > > > From: BOB TOWNSED > > > Date: 2005/09/02 Fri PM 02:54:59 EDT > > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > Where should I start looking for a Koni rapid > > > . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . Also, > > Im > > > under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 does > > not > > > allow the use of interchangeble film backs or the > > use > > > of the ground glass atachment . The Koni rapid 100 > > is > > > easier to find . How much should I pay for the > > ground > > > glass attachment. > > > Thanks, > > > Bob > > > > > > --- Eric Goldstein wrote: > > > > > > > BOB TOWNSED: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your advice on the KONI OMEGA AT > > CLOSE > > > > > UP USE. > > > > > I have a good tripod that I use for 4x5 that > > may > > > > > keep the camera in position with all the > > changing. > > > > > Im use to looking and focusing on a ground > > glass. > > > > > Much of the close up stuff I do is not super > > close > > > > up > > > > > ( I use my 35mm for that with ext.tubes) . Is > > the > > > > > viewfinder acurate say to around 4 or 5 feet . > > > > > > > > > > > > It really can't be. Same for the omega-flex. > > > > Especially close in, you will > > > > see perspective errors; the position of objects > > > > relative to each other will > > > > be different between the viewing and taking > > lenses. > > > > The only way to deal > > > > with this on these cameras is to use the GG > > > > attachment or relocate the > > > > taking lens to the position of the viewing > > lens... a > > > > PIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric Goldstein > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home > > page > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Wed Sep 14 13:34:40 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Wed Sep 14 13:34:47 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Thanks for reply In-Reply-To: <003b01c5b408$ab0fbac0$8548f804@pwdspc001> Message-ID: <20050914173440.28153.qmail@web30712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thats pretty amazing that the koni lenses are as good or better than Hassy's considering that the koni wide angle 50mm is 300.00 while the hassy is 1500 used . Iv'e been kinda hearing that on the iternet sites that I visited. The 6 x 7 format is more perferable to me, and the price is awsome for a medium format. Some one in Japan should set up production and build some more. Or at least let us . Thanks again, Bob P.S. Im thinking about developing in Pyro PMK . Is it ok to discuss this on The Koni thread. I hear that the pyro stuff has 1/2 the grain and the best acutance . If I push some asa 400 film 4 stops and develope in Pyro the grain should be low . This is relevant to the Koni discussion group because this amount of pushing would allow koni owners to hand hold the koni . This would put the Koni in a class by it self because there is no mirror slap to worry about. This would also allow user to use the Koni the way it was made to be used. Also the contrast created from pushing 4 stops could be offset by using Pyro HD , it is semi compensating. P.S.S It's nice to know that I may be able to remove the Olive oil from my ground glass if I need to. Thanks for the Idea . --- ArcherEnterprises wrote: > Interesting.... I have a feeling that if you cleaned > the GG *very* > thorouhgly with naptha (Ronsonal or Zippo lighter > fluid) it would be > restored to it`s original state. > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: OLIVE OIL > > > > I use Olive oil or corn oil on my 4 x 5 ground > > glass to make it lighter(much lighter) . Take a > piece > > of paper towel and put just a drop of oil on it . > > Spread it over the ground glass very thinly . Then > > whipe up the excess with a clean paper towel . > Wipe > > very well. Note: once you do this it is impossible > to > > return the glass to its original density. You may > want > > to do just the center. The glass is way clearer so > it > > may not be as projectable of the image . Also, it > is > > much easier to see the corners of the image . With > my > > 4 x 5 this is very important . The image is also > > sharper because of less difusion . > > Good luck; > > Bob > > > > > > --- Steve Everett wrote: > > > > > I've used the Koni-Omega a lot with ground > glass. I > > > found it difficult to > > > find and I didn't want to pay the price for the > > > original glass so I made my > > > own. I had read cellophane tape works so I tried > it. > > > It worked but was a > > > pain to remove before placing the back on the > > > magazine. I read the original > > > Koni glass was off-set by .008 which placed it > down > > > into the film rails. > > > What I ended up doing was using Lexan, cutting > .008 > > > off the edges, where it > > > sits on the film rails, then sand blasting the > > > surface to give it a ground > > > glass texture. I then mounted it on an extra > > > magazine. Magazines are cheap > > > and easy to get. I disabled the dark slide > catches > > > so that I can remove the > > > magazine without inserting the dark slide. I > found > > > the sand blasted surface > > > too grainy for accurate focusing and went to wet > > > sanding. I've experimented > > > with many of these Lexan GG and found that to > get > > > the sharpest, detailed, > > > image I could I needed only a light rub with a > 1500 > > > wet and dry sandpaper. > > > The draw back to this is the image is very dark. > I > > > used a magnifying glass > > > too focus but found I couldn't hold the distance > > > right so I bought a loop. I > > > also discovered that the off-set was not > necessary. > > > A flat piece of Lexan > > > works fine. After a while I grew tired of > fighting > > > with a loop while > > > focusing and bought a 3X eye piece. I built a > box, > > > from Lexan, to hold the > > > eye piece at the right distance from the GG. I > > > painted the box flat black > > > and attached it over the GG using the little > clamps > > > already in the magazine. > > > Now using ground glass is not a half an hour > chore. > > > I insert my GG magazine, > > > focus, remove, install the film magazine, cock > > > shutter at the lens, remove > > > the dark slide, and take the picture. It's still > not > > > a point and shoot but > > > it allow me to use close up lens. > > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "ArcherEnterprises" > > > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > > > > Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s > > > available....look under listings for > > > > "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". > Although > > > they`re basically the > > > > same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", > and > > > "200" have the film > > > > magazines that allow for mid-roll film > changes.GG > > > attachments usually sell > > > > for around $100 or thereabouts. > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > > > > > >> Where should I start looking for a Koni > rapid > > > >> . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . > Also, > > > Im > > > >> under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 > does > > > not > > > >> allow the use of interchangeble film backs or > the > > > use > > > >> of the ground glass atachment . The Koni > rapid > > > 100 is > > > >> easier to find . How much should I pay for > the > > > ground > > > >> glass attachment. > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Bob > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > relief effort. > > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From afs760bf at cox.net Wed Sep 14 14:17:06 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Wed Sep 14 14:17:10 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Thanks for reply Message-ID: <20050914181707.JBTQ20229.eastrmmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Actually, you can do pretty well hand-holding the Koni with 400 speed film. I have used a tripod for portraits, but have gotten some nice shots hand-held. It balances pretty well. BF > > From: BOB TOWNSED > Date: 2005/09/14 Wed PM 01:34:40 EDT > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Thanks for reply > > Thats pretty amazing that the koni lenses are > as good or better than Hassy's considering that the > koni wide angle 50mm is 300.00 while the hassy is 1500 > used . Iv'e been kinda hearing that on the iternet > sites that I visited. The 6 x 7 format is more > perferable to me, and the price is awsome for a medium > format. Some one in Japan should set up production and > build some more. Or at least let us . > Thanks again, > Bob > P.S. Im thinking about developing in Pyro PMK . Is it > ok to discuss this on The Koni thread. I hear that the > pyro stuff has 1/2 the grain and the best acutance . > If > I push some asa 400 film 4 stops and develope in Pyro > the grain should be low . This is relevant to the Koni > discussion group because this amount of pushing would > allow koni owners to hand hold the koni . This would > put the Koni in a class by it self because there is no > mirror slap to worry about. This would also allow user > to use the Koni the way it was made to be used. Also > the contrast created from pushing 4 stops could be > offset by using Pyro HD , it is semi compensating. > > P.S.S It's nice to know that I may be able to remove > the Olive oil from my ground glass if I need to. > Thanks for the Idea . > > --- ArcherEnterprises > wrote: > > > Interesting.... I have a feeling that if you cleaned > > the GG *very* > > thorouhgly with naptha (Ronsonal or Zippo lighter > > fluid) it would be > > restored to it`s original state. > > > > Robert > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: OLIVE OIL > > > > > > > I use Olive oil or corn oil on my 4 x 5 ground > > > glass to make it lighter(much lighter) . Take a > > piece > > > of paper towel and put just a drop of oil on it . > > > Spread it over the ground glass very thinly . Then > > > whipe up the excess with a clean paper towel . > > Wipe > > > very well. Note: once you do this it is impossible > > to > > > return the glass to its original density. You may > > want > > > to do just the center. The glass is way clearer so > > it > > > may not be as projectable of the image . Also, it > > is > > > much easier to see the corners of the image . With > > my > > > 4 x 5 this is very important . The image is also > > > sharper because of less difusion . > > > Good luck; > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Everett wrote: > > > > > > > I've used the Koni-Omega a lot with ground > > glass. I > > > > found it difficult to > > > > find and I didn't want to pay the price for the > > > > original glass so I made my > > > > own. I had read cellophane tape works so I tried > > it. > > > > It worked but was a > > > > pain to remove before placing the back on the > > > > magazine. I read the original > > > > Koni glass was off-set by .008 which placed it > > down > > > > into the film rails. > > > > What I ended up doing was using Lexan, cutting > > .008 > > > > off the edges, where it > > > > sits on the film rails, then sand blasting the > > > > surface to give it a ground > > > > glass texture. I then mounted it on an extra > > > > magazine. Magazines are cheap > > > > and easy to get. I disabled the dark slide > > catches > > > > so that I can remove the > > > > magazine without inserting the dark slide. I > > found > > > > the sand blasted surface > > > > too grainy for accurate focusing and went to wet > > > > sanding. I've experimented > > > > with many of these Lexan GG and found that to > > get > > > > the sharpest, detailed, > > > > image I could I needed only a light rub with a > > 1500 > > > > wet and dry sandpaper. > > > > The draw back to this is the image is very dark. > > I > > > > used a magnifying glass > > > > too focus but found I couldn't hold the distance > > > > right so I bought a loop. I > > > > also discovered that the off-set was not > > necessary. > > > > A flat piece of Lexan > > > > works fine. After a while I grew tired of > > fighting > > > > with a loop while > > > > focusing and bought a 3X eye piece. I built a > > box, > > > > from Lexan, to hold the > > > > eye piece at the right distance from the GG. I > > > > painted the box flat black > > > > and attached it over the GG using the little > > clamps > > > > already in the magazine. > > > > Now using ground glass is not a half an hour > > chore. > > > > I insert my GG magazine, > > > > focus, remove, install the film magazine, cock > > > > shutter at the lens, remove > > > > the dark slide, and take the picture. It's still > > not > > > > a point and shoot but > > > > it allow me to use close up lens. > > > > Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "ArcherEnterprises" > > > > > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:48 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s > > > > available....look under listings for > > > > > "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". > > Although > > > > they`re basically the > > > > > same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", > > and > > > > "200" have the film > > > > > magazines that allow for mid-roll film > > changes.GG > > > > attachments usually sell > > > > > for around $100 or thereabouts. > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Where should I start looking for a Koni > > rapid > > > > >> . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . > > Also, > > > > Im > > > > >> under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 > > does > > > > not > > > > >> allow the use of interchangeble film backs or > > the > > > > use > > > > >> of the ground glass atachment . The Koni > > rapid > > > > 100 is > > > > >> easier to find . How much should I pay for > > the > > > > ground > > > > >> glass attachment. > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > >> Bob > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > > relief effort. > > > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From egoldste at earthlink.net Wed Sep 14 14:38:46 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Wed Sep 14 14:38:51 2005 Subject: [KOML] Omegaflex Close Focusing and Hassy Prices Message-ID: <32343769.1126723126787.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> A while ago, someone questioned whether the Omegaflex could focus the 135 below four feet. Just wanted to confirm thatr in addition to my own personal measurement of a near distance under 4 feet, the manual puts the closest distance at 42 inches... Also, someone recently put Hasselblad Distagon prices at $1500... this is wildly out of date. With the price collapse of film cameras thse days, you can get a decent 500c with back and 50 Distagon for about $600. The O'flex 58 is still a relative bargain at about half this, plus the wider film format, but it's not an SLR with a broad range of lens choices... Eric Goldstein From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Wed Sep 14 20:29:14 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Wed Sep 14 20:30:37 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Thanks for reply References: <20050914181707.JBTQ20229.eastrmmtao02.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <003b01c5b98c$889a49e0$6a4df804@pwdspc001> If you need a little more speed, you can pick up an extra stop by using Fuji`s Reala 800.... it exceeded my expectations for such a fast film.And yes, Bob, most of us agree that the K-O setup offers a very high-quality bang for the buck.Fall is right around the corner.... if you want a real eye-opener, pick up a few rolls of Velvia (slide) film, and go shoot at the peak of color....those big transparencies will make a true believer out of you :-) Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry F" To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: [KOML] Re: Thanks for reply > Actually, you can do pretty well hand-holding the Koni with 400 speed film. I have used a tripod for portraits, but have gotten some nice shots hand-held. It balances pretty well. > BF > > > > From: BOB TOWNSED > > Date: 2005/09/14 Wed PM 01:34:40 EDT > > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: Thanks for reply > > > > Thats pretty amazing that the koni lenses are > > as good or better than Hassy's considering that the > > koni wide angle 50mm is 300.00 while the hassy is 1500 > > used . Iv'e been kinda hearing that on the iternet > > sites that I visited. The 6 x 7 format is more > > perferable to me, and the price is awsome for a medium > > format. Some one in Japan should set up production and > > build some more. Or at least let us . > > Thanks again, > > Bob > > P.S. Im thinking about developing in Pyro PMK . Is it > > ok to discuss this on The Koni thread. I hear that the > > pyro stuff has 1/2 the grain and the best acutance . > > If > > I push some asa 400 film 4 stops and develope in Pyro > > the grain should be low . This is relevant to the Koni > > discussion group because this amount of pushing would > > allow koni owners to hand hold the koni . This would > > put the Koni in a class by it self because there is no > > mirror slap to worry about. This would also allow user > > to use the Koni the way it was made to be used. Also > > the contrast created from pushing 4 stops could be > > offset by using Pyro HD , it is semi compensating. > > > > P.S.S It's nice to know that I may be able to remove > > the Olive oil from my ground glass if I need to. > > Thanks for the Idea . > > > > --- ArcherEnterprises > > wrote: > > > > > Interesting.... I have a feeling that if you cleaned > > > the GG *very* > > > thorouhgly with naptha (Ronsonal or Zippo lighter > > > fluid) it would be > > > restored to it`s original state. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:44 PM > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: OLIVE OIL > > > > > > > > > > I use Olive oil or corn oil on my 4 x 5 ground > > > > glass to make it lighter(much lighter) . Take a > > > piece > > > > of paper towel and put just a drop of oil on it . > > > > Spread it over the ground glass very thinly . Then > > > > whipe up the excess with a clean paper towel . > > > Wipe > > > > very well. Note: once you do this it is impossible > > > to > > > > return the glass to its original density. You may > > > want > > > > to do just the center. The glass is way clearer so > > > it > > > > may not be as projectable of the image . Also, it > > > is > > > > much easier to see the corners of the image . With > > > my > > > > 4 x 5 this is very important . The image is also > > > > sharper because of less difusion . > > > > Good luck; > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Everett wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've used the Koni-Omega a lot with ground > > > glass. I > > > > > found it difficult to > > > > > find and I didn't want to pay the price for the > > > > > original glass so I made my > > > > > own. I had read cellophane tape works so I tried > > > it. > > > > > It worked but was a > > > > > pain to remove before placing the back on the > > > > > magazine. I read the original > > > > > Koni glass was off-set by .008 which placed it > > > down > > > > > into the film rails. > > > > > What I ended up doing was using Lexan, cutting > > > .008 > > > > > off the edges, where it > > > > > sits on the film rails, then sand blasting the > > > > > surface to give it a ground > > > > > glass texture. I then mounted it on an extra > > > > > magazine. Magazines are cheap > > > > > and easy to get. I disabled the dark slide > > > catches > > > > > so that I can remove the > > > > > magazine without inserting the dark slide. I > > > found > > > > > the sand blasted surface > > > > > too grainy for accurate focusing and went to wet > > > > > sanding. I've experimented > > > > > with many of these Lexan GG and found that to > > > get > > > > > the sharpest, detailed, > > > > > image I could I needed only a light rub with a > > > 1500 > > > > > wet and dry sandpaper. > > > > > The draw back to this is the image is very dark. > > > I > > > > > used a magnifying glass > > > > > too focus but found I couldn't hold the distance > > > > > right so I bought a loop. I > > > > > also discovered that the off-set was not > > > necessary. > > > > > A flat piece of Lexan > > > > > works fine. After a while I grew tired of > > > fighting > > > > > with a loop while > > > > > focusing and bought a 3X eye piece. I built a > > > box, > > > > > from Lexan, to hold the > > > > > eye piece at the right distance from the GG. I > > > > > painted the box flat black > > > > > and attached it over the GG using the little > > > clamps > > > > > already in the magazine. > > > > > Now using ground glass is not a half an hour > > > chore. > > > > > I insert my GG magazine, > > > > > focus, remove, install the film magazine, cock > > > > > shutter at the lens, remove > > > > > the dark slide, and take the picture. It's still > > > not > > > > > a point and shoot but > > > > > it allow me to use close up lens. > > > > > Steve > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "ArcherEnterprises" > > > > > > > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:48 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try e-Bay to get an idea of what`s > > > > > available....look under listings for > > > > > > "Koni-Omega", "Rapid", and "Rapid Omega". > > > Although > > > > > they`re basically the > > > > > > same, only cameras designated "Rapid M", "M", > > > and > > > > > "200" have the film > > > > > > magazines that allow for mid-roll film > > > changes.GG > > > > > attachments usually sell > > > > > > for around $100 or thereabouts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > > > > > To: "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:54 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Re: THANKS FOR INFO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Where should I start looking for a Koni > > > rapid > > > > > >> . Is shutter bug ads a good place to look . > > > Also, > > > > > Im > > > > > >> under the impression that the Koni rapid 100 > > > does > > > > > not > > > > > >> allow the use of interchangeble film backs or > > > the > > > > > use > > > > > >> of the ground glass atachment . The Koni > > > rapid > > > > > 100 is > > > > > >> easier to find . How much should I pay for > > > the > > > > > ground > > > > > >> glass attachment. > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > >> Bob > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > > > relief effort. > > > > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > KOML mailing list > > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From jjy at f2s.com Thu Sep 15 11:14:54 2005 From: jjy at f2s.com (Young, J J) Date: Thu Sep 15 10:14:57 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Omegaflex Close Focusing Message-ID: <200509151414.j8FEEsch013502@outmail.freedom2surf.net> The manual states 46 inches, and 30 inches with one spacer or 25 inches with two. Distances are from the film plane. Regards, Jake Young ======= On 2005-09-14 at 14:38:46 EDT Eric Goldstein wrote: ======= >A while ago, someone questioned whether the Omegaflex could focus the >135 below four feet. Just wanted to confirm thatr in addition to my >own personal measurement of a near distance under 4 feet, the manual >puts the closest distance at 42 inches... From Rupert_Jessop at discovery-europe.com Thu Sep 15 13:40:15 2005 From: Rupert_Jessop at discovery-europe.com (Rupert_Jessop@discovery-europe.com) Date: Thu Sep 15 13:40:46 2005 Subject: [KOML] Rupert Jessop/UK/Europe/DCI is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 05/09/2005 and will not return until 19/09/2005. I am out of the office for two weeks - Please send your queries to Natasha Ross or Lisa Gartside ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From egoldste at earthlink.net Thu Sep 15 14:07:31 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Thu Sep 15 14:07:36 2005 Subject: [KOML] OT - Tonight: Recreating an AA Masterpiece In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4848982 Eric Goldstein From afs760bf at cox.net Thu Sep 15 14:13:05 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Thu Sep 15 14:13:07 2005 Subject: [KOML] OT - Tonight: Recreating an AA Masterpiece Message-ID: <20050915181305.SOPE15319.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Are they going to use a 'Flex or an RO to do it? Probably some fancy digital thing, I suppose. BF > > From: Eric Goldstein > Date: 2005/09/15 Thu PM 02:07:31 EDT > To: , , > > Subject: [KOML] OT - Tonight: Recreating an AA Masterpiece > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4848982 > > > Eric Goldstein > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From egoldste at earthlink.net Thu Sep 15 14:17:27 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Thu Sep 15 14:17:30 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: OT - Tonight: Recreating an AA Masterpiece In-Reply-To: <20050915181305.SOPE15319.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: Barry F wrote: > Are they going to use a 'Flex or an RO to do it? Probably some fancy digital > thing, I suppose. I dunno... Ansel likes his resolution and I think the original was shot 45... When the audio becomes available, hive it a listen. Interviewed is AA's last lab assistant, now a Nat'l Geo shooter in his own right... Eric Goldstein From mkochsch at shaw.ca Fri Sep 16 10:54:50 2005 From: mkochsch at shaw.ca (Michael Koch-Schulte) Date: Fri Sep 16 10:54:55 2005 Subject: [KOML] Remote External Shutter Release Message-ID: <05bd01c5bace$96db2220$9400a8c0@Sweetwood> Is there a gizmo I can screw into my K-O shutter release so that I can essentially have a self timer function? Thx. From egoldste at earthlink.net Fri Sep 16 11:35:49 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Fri Sep 16 11:36:10 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Remote External Shutter Release In-Reply-To: <05bd01c5bace$96db2220$9400a8c0@Sweetwood> Message-ID: Michael Koch-Schulte wrote: > Is there a gizmo I can screw into my K-O shutter release so that I can > essentially have a self timer function? Thx. Try this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Self-timer-for-Stereo-Cameras-Realist-etc-Useful_W0QQite mZ3839157680QQcategoryZ4692QQcmdZViewItem I believe he will let you return it if it does not work. You can also check Porter's... they have stuff like this... Eric Goldstein From mkochsch at shaw.ca Fri Sep 16 18:51:42 2005 From: mkochsch at shaw.ca (Michael Koch-Schulte) Date: Fri Sep 16 18:51:50 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Remote External Shutter Release References: Message-ID: <064701c5bb11$3523bd60$9400a8c0@Sweetwood> Eric Goldstein wrote: > Michael Koch-Schulte wrote: > >> Is there a gizmo I can screw into my K-O shutter release so that I >> can essentially have a self timer function? Thx. > > > Try this: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Self-timer-for-Stereo-Cameras-Realist-etc-Useful_W0QQite > mZ3839157680QQcategoryZ4692QQcmdZViewItem > > > I believe he will let you return it if it does not work. You can also > check Porter's... they have stuff like this... > > > Eric Goldstein > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml Do you think these ones have enough throw and push to fire a Koni-Omega? Thx for the link. From egoldste at earthlink.net Fri Sep 16 18:57:22 2005 From: egoldste at earthlink.net (Eric Goldstein) Date: Fri Sep 16 18:57:30 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Remote External Shutter Release In-Reply-To: <064701c5bb11$3523bd60$9400a8c0@Sweetwood> Message-ID: Michael Koch-Schulte wrote: > Do you think these ones have enough throw and push to fire a Koni-Omega? Thx > for the link. I don't know. This particular version has more throw than most. As I said, try to buy from someone who will accept a return... Eric Goldstein From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Tue Sep 20 14:39:06 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Tue Sep 20 14:39:09 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Remote External Shutter Release In-Reply-To: <064701c5bb11$3523bd60$9400a8c0@Sweetwood> Message-ID: <20050920183907.32490.qmail@web30707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Why not just get a 20 foot cable release ; you can trip the thing yourself from behind your back and no one will know the difference. Also using an ASA 1600 film does not have the best resoulution as a Tmax 400 film and pushing 2F. By using pyro you can reduce the grain in half because it creates a stain. You can therefore use ASA 100 , push 4f and get a ASA 1600 with ASA 100 resolution. Bob --- Michael Koch-Schulte wrote: > Eric Goldstein wrote: > > Michael Koch-Schulte wrote: > > > >> Is there a gizmo I can screw into my K-O shutter > release so that I > >> can essentially have a self timer function? Thx. > > > > > > Try this: > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Self-timer-for-Stereo-Cameras-Realist-etc-Useful_W0QQite > > mZ3839157680QQcategoryZ4692QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > I believe he will let you return it if it does not > work. You can also > > check Porter's... they have stuff like this... > > > > > > Eric Goldstein > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > Do you think these ones have enough throw and push > to fire a Koni-Omega? Thx > for the link. > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From raju at artexperiments.com Fri Oct 28 02:44:07 2005 From: raju at artexperiments.com (raju@artexperiments.com) Date: Fri Oct 28 03:09:25 2005 Subject: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. Message-ID: <4361cd67.34b.74.24394@artexperiments.com> We intend to call entries from photographers all over the world. We will select twelve unique entries of art, which would be exhibited in Waves Art Gallery and thereby be printed into 'Project Calendar 2006' The twelve selected entries would be awarded. Awards worth indian rupees 50000/-. Go to http://www.artexperiments.com/project_calendar/default.asp for downloading pdf registration form and/or submitting entries online! Last date of submitting the entries is 15th November 2005. Raju Sutar Artist/ Curator Waves Art Gallery B 204, Parmar Trade Centre, Sadhu Vaswani chawk, Pune 411001 (Maharashtra) INDIA +91 9860480681 From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Tue Nov 1 14:12:12 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Tue Nov 1 14:12:14 2005 Subject: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. In-Reply-To: <4361cd67.34b.74.24394@artexperiments.com> Message-ID: <20051101191213.21235.qmail@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How much is that in dollars. also, what rights do I have if I send you my images. Can you just copy away . --- raju@artexperiments.com wrote: > We intend to call entries from photographers all > over the > world. We will select twelve unique > entries of art, which would be exhibited in Waves > Art > Gallery and thereby be printed into 'Project > Calendar 2006' > > The twelve selected entries would be awarded. Awards > worth > indian rupees 50000/-. > > Go to > http://www.artexperiments.com/project_calendar/default.asp > for downloading pdf registration form and/or > submitting > entries online! > > Last date of submitting the entries is 15th November > 2005. > > > > Raju Sutar > > Artist/ Curator > Waves Art Gallery > B 204, Parmar Trade Centre, Sadhu Vaswani chawk, > Pune 411001 > (Maharashtra) > INDIA > +91 9860480681 > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From archerenterprises at earthlink.net Tue Nov 1 14:40:18 2005 From: archerenterprises at earthlink.net (ArcherEnterprises) Date: Tue Nov 1 14:34:43 2005 Subject: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. References: <20051101191213.21235.qmail@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005101c5df1c$17df0fa0$864ff804@pwdspc001> That prize is`nt worth dick....the Starbuck`s in Calcutta charges 60,000 rupees for a f***in` latte`... ----- Original Message ----- From: "BOB TOWNSED" To: ; "Koni-Omega Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. > How much is that in dollars. also, what rights > do I have if I send you my images. Can you just copy > away . > > --- raju@artexperiments.com wrote: > > > We intend to call entries from photographers all > > over the > > world. We will select twelve unique > > entries of art, which would be exhibited in Waves > > Art > > Gallery and thereby be printed into 'Project > > Calendar 2006' > > > > The twelve selected entries would be awarded. Awards > > worth > > indian rupees 50000/-. > > > > Go to > > > http://www.artexperiments.com/project_calendar/default.asp > > for downloading pdf registration form and/or > > submitting > > entries online! > > > > Last date of submitting the entries is 15th November > > 2005. > > > > > > > > Raju Sutar > > > > Artist/ Curator > > Waves Art Gallery > > B 204, Parmar Trade Centre, Sadhu Vaswani chawk, > > Pune 411001 > > (Maharashtra) > > INDIA > > +91 9860480681 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From egoldste at gmail.com Tue Nov 1 15:33:01 2005 From: egoldste at gmail.com (Eric Goldstein) Date: Tue Nov 1 15:33:08 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. In-Reply-To: <005101c5df1c$17df0fa0$864ff804@pwdspc001> References: <20051101191213.21235.qmail@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005101c5df1c$17df0fa0$864ff804@pwdspc001> Message-ID: <4367D0FD.2060402@gmail.com> Yes. Can you say "scam?" Eric Goldstein --- ArcherEnterprises wrote: > That prize is`nt worth dick....the Starbuck`s in Calcutta charges 60,000 > rupees for a f***in` latte`... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > To: ; "Koni-Omega Mail List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. > > > >>--- raju@artexperiments.com wrote: >> >> >>>We intend to call entries from photographers all >>>over the >>>world. We will select twelve unique >>>entries of art, which would be exhibited in Waves >>>Art >>>Gallery and thereby be printed into 'Project >>>Calendar 2006' >>> >>>The twelve selected entries would be awarded. Awards >>>worth >>>indian rupees 50000/-. >>> >>>Go to >>> >> >>http://www.artexperiments.com/project_calendar/default.asp >> >>>for downloading pdf registration form and/or >>>submitting >>>entries online! >>> >>>Last date of submitting the entries is 15th November >>>2005. >>> >>> >>> >>>Raju Sutar >>> >>>Artist/ Curator >>>Waves Art Gallery >>>B 204, Parmar Trade Centre, Sadhu Vaswani chawk, >>>Pune 411001 >>>(Maharashtra) >>>INDIA >>>+91 9860480681 From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Wed Nov 2 14:26:11 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:26:15 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. In-Reply-To: <4367D0FD.2060402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20051102192611.5252.qmail@web30711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Also, the 10 bucks per image to enter is also high. Futhermore this is a Koni Omega thread . A contest should only accept photos that relate to the koni camera in some way. Bob --- Eric Goldstein wrote: > Yes. Can you say "scam?" > > Eric Goldstein > > --- > > > ArcherEnterprises wrote: > > > That prize is`nt worth dick....the Starbuck`s in > Calcutta charges 60,000 > > rupees for a f***in` latte`... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > To: ; "Koni-Omega Mail > List" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline > 15th Nov 2005. > > > > > > > >>--- raju@artexperiments.com wrote: > >> > >> > >>>We intend to call entries from photographers all > >>>over the > >>>world. We will select twelve unique > >>>entries of art, which would be exhibited in Waves > >>>Art > >>>Gallery and thereby be printed into 'Project > >>>Calendar 2006' > >>> > >>>The twelve selected entries would be awarded. > Awards > >>>worth > >>>indian rupees 50000/-. > >>> > >>>Go to > >>> > >> > >>http://www.artexperiments.com/project_calendar/default.asp > >> > >>>for downloading pdf registration form and/or > >>>submitting > >>>entries online! > >>> > >>>Last date of submitting the entries is 15th > November > >>>2005. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Raju Sutar > >>> > >>>Artist/ Curator > >>>Waves Art Gallery > >>>B 204, Parmar Trade Centre, Sadhu Vaswani chawk, > >>>Pune 411001 > >>>(Maharashtra) > >>>INDIA > >>>+91 9860480681 > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From ck53ab at rocketmail.com Wed Nov 2 14:27:48 2005 From: ck53ab at rocketmail.com (BOB TOWNSED) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:27:50 2005 Subject: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. In-Reply-To: <005101c5df1c$17df0fa0$864ff804@pwdspc001> Message-ID: <20051102192748.5616.qmail@web30711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The only thing rupees are good for is to wipe your a** with. --- ArcherEnterprises wrote: > That prize is`nt worth dick....the Starbuck`s in > Calcutta charges 60,000 > rupees for a f***in` latte`... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > To: ; "Koni-Omega Mail > List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th > Nov 2005. > > > > How much is that in dollars. also, what > rights > > do I have if I send you my images. Can you just > copy > > away . > > > > --- raju@artexperiments.com wrote: > > > > > We intend to call entries from photographers all > > > over the > > > world. We will select twelve unique > > > entries of art, which would be exhibited in > Waves > > > Art > > > Gallery and thereby be printed into 'Project > > > Calendar 2006' > > > > > > The twelve selected entries would be awarded. > Awards > > > worth > > > indian rupees 50000/-. > > > > > > Go to > > > > > > http://www.artexperiments.com/project_calendar/default.asp > > > for downloading pdf registration form and/or > > > submitting > > > entries online! > > > > > > Last date of submitting the entries is 15th > November > > > 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > Raju Sutar > > > > > > Artist/ Curator > > > Waves Art Gallery > > > B 204, Parmar Trade Centre, Sadhu Vaswani chawk, > > > Pune 411001 > > > (Maharashtra) > > > INDIA > > > +91 9860480681 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > KOML mailing list > > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From afs760bf at cox.net Fri Nov 4 12:13:56 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Fri Nov 4 12:14:10 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. Message-ID: <20051104171311.QKMF20851.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Well, if you would all please send me as many photos as you want and include ten bucks entry fee for each photo, I'll decide who wins and send the winner ten bucks. Of course, I'll let everyone else know, and it will all be strictly above-board. Deal? BF > > From: Eric Goldstein > Date: 2005/11/01 Tue PM 03:33:01 EST > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > Subject: [KOML] Re: Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. > > Yes. Can you say "scam?" > > Eric Goldstein > > --- > > > ArcherEnterprises wrote: > > > That prize is`nt worth dick....the Starbuck`s in Calcutta charges 60,000 > > rupees for a f***in` latte`... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "BOB TOWNSED" > > To: ; "Koni-Omega Mail List" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [KOML] Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. > > > > > > > >>--- raju@artexperiments.com wrote: > >> > >> > >>>We intend to call entries from photographers all > >>>over the > >>>world. We will select twelve unique > >>>entries of art, which would be exhibited in Waves > >>>Art > >>>Gallery and thereby be printed into 'Project > >>>Calendar 2006' > >>> > >>>The twelve selected entries would be awarded. Awards > >>>worth > >>>indian rupees 50000/-. > >>> > >>>Go to > >>> > >> > >>http://www.artexperiments.com/project_calendar/default.asp > >> > >>>for downloading pdf registration form and/or > >>>submitting > >>>entries online! > >>> > >>>Last date of submitting the entries is 15th November > >>>2005. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Raju Sutar > >>> > >>>Artist/ Curator > >>>Waves Art Gallery > >>>B 204, Parmar Trade Centre, Sadhu Vaswani chawk, > >>>Pune 411001 > >>>(Maharashtra) > >>>INDIA > >>>+91 9860480681 > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From egoldste at gmail.com Fri Nov 4 12:19:24 2005 From: egoldste at gmail.com (Eric Goldstein) Date: Fri Nov 4 12:19:36 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. In-Reply-To: <20051104171311.QKMF20851.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> References: <20051104171311.QKMF20851.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Message-ID: <436B981C.4030902@gmail.com> Barry F wrote: > Well, if you would all please send me as many photos as you want and > include ten bucks entry fee for each photo, I'll decide who wins and > send the winner ten bucks. Of course, I'll let everyone else know, > and it will all be strictly above-board. Deal? Barry - why not charge 20 or 30 per? Go for it! ;-) Eric Goldstein From afs760bf at cox.net Sat Nov 5 16:32:14 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Sat Nov 5 16:32:19 2005 Subject: [KOML] Re: Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. Message-ID: <20051105213114.JPVS4942.centrmmtao03.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Well, I didn't want to be greedy, you know. I have to maintain my standard of ethics. BF > > From: Eric Goldstein > Date: 2005/11/04 Fri PM 12:19:24 EST > To: Koni-Omega Mail List > Subject: [KOML] Re: Call for Entries! Deadline 15th Nov 2005. > > Barry F wrote: > > > Well, if you would all please send me as many photos as you want and > > include ten bucks entry fee for each photo, I'll decide who wins and > > send the winner ten bucks. Of course, I'll let everyone else know, > > and it will all be strictly above-board. Deal? > > > > Barry - why not charge 20 or 30 per? Go for it! ;-) > > > Eric Goldstein > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From lfrisch at neoucom.edu Tue Dec 6 17:37:53 2005 From: lfrisch at neoucom.edu (Lawrence E. Frisch) Date: Tue Dec 6 17:37:56 2005 Subject: [KOML] Finding a Koni Omega? Message-ID: I would very much like to find a good quality 200 or M model with either a 90mm or (if findable) a 135mm lens. I'd consider an omegaflex, though I worry about focusing with my presbyopic trifocalized eyes. In either case, since the risks of buying a 30 year old camera on ebay are significant, I would much prefer to find one that is in known good condition. Any thoughts? Larry From afs760bf at cox.net Wed Dec 7 12:03:54 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:05:15 2005 Subject: [KOML] Finding a Koni Omega? Message-ID: <20051207170425.UKUZ22243.centrmmtao01.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Well, if you want one in known good condition, and you don't get any responses from this list, call Greg Weber and see if he has anything in stock. I would be pretty sure he'd have a 100 or 200 with a 90mm lens in stock, and it would be recently CLA'd and come with a six month warranty. He's probably got some other lenses, as well. Contact info: 2022 East 7th Steet. Fremont, NE 68025-1615 USA phone 402.721.3873 toll free 877.721.3873 fax 402.721.3838 gweber@webercamera.com www.webercamera.com Good luck, Barry > > From: "Lawrence E. Frisch" > Date: 2005/12/06 Tue PM 05:37:53 EST > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: [KOML] Finding a Koni Omega? > > I would very much like to find a good quality 200 or M model with > either a 90mm or (if findable) a 135mm lens. I'd consider an > omegaflex, though I worry about focusing with my presbyopic > trifocalized eyes. In either case, since the risks of buying a 30 year > old camera on ebay are significant, I would much prefer to find one > that is in known good condition. Any thoughts? > > Larry > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From afs760bf at cox.net Fri Dec 9 13:46:20 2005 From: afs760bf at cox.net (Barry F) Date: Fri Dec 9 13:47:42 2005 Subject: [KOML] Finding a Koni Omega? Message-ID: <20051209184603.XBDB13557.centrmmtao06.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Lawrence, For you or others interested, there is a complete Rapid M set on ebay which claims to have been CLA'd by Greg Weber recently. If this works, it is here: http://tinyurl.com/dhw3c If not, item number is 7570477673 BF > > From: "Lawrence E. Frisch" > Date: 2005/12/06 Tue PM 05:37:53 EST > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: [KOML] Finding a Koni Omega? > > I would very much like to find a good quality 200 or M model with > either a 90mm or (if findable) a 135mm lens. I'd consider an > omegaflex, though I worry about focusing with my presbyopic > trifocalized eyes. In either case, since the risks of buying a 30 year > old camera on ebay are significant, I would much prefer to find one > that is in known good condition. Any thoughts? > > Larry > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From Rupert_Jessop at discovery-europe.com Fri Dec 9 15:08:22 2005 From: Rupert_Jessop at discovery-europe.com (Rupert_Jessop@discovery-europe.com) Date: Fri Dec 9 15:08:30 2005 Subject: [KOML] Rupert Jessop/UK/Europe/DCI is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 08/12/2005 and will not return until 13/12/2005. I am out of the office for two weeks - Please send your queries to Natasha Ross or Lisa Gartside ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________