From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Jan 26 19:32:40 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (stephen yates) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:32:40 -0600 Subject: [KOML] (no subject) Message-ID: Looking for different lenses besides the 90mm f3.5. I understand there are two more available for my Knoi Omega Rapid 6X7, a wide and a telephoto. Does anyone know if these lenses are whorth searching for. I understand they are extremely slow (the wide I believe is only a f5.6). Are they very sharp? Do they cost much? Any info on these lenses for the K.O. Rapid would be deeply appreciated. Thank you _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Jan 26 19:57:10 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:57:10 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Range of lenses for the KO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 1:32 pm -0600 26/1/01, stephen yates wrote: >Looking for different lenses besides the 90mm f3.5. I understand >there are two more available for my Knoi Omega Rapid 6X7, a wide and >a telephoto. Does anyone know if these lenses are whorth searching >for. I understand they are extremely slow (the wide I believe is >only a f5.6). Are they very sharp? Do they cost much? Any info on >these lenses for the K.O. Rapid would be deeply appreciated. Hello Stephen, There are in fact three additional lenses, the 180mm, the 135mm, and the 58 (60)mm. All of the lenses are very high quality and very sharp so they are indeed worth searching for. The 135mm lens is usually very expensive as it was only produced for a couple of years. The other two lenses are more reasonably priced. Try a quick search on the web using Google and stick with a reputable dealer that offers a guarantee. Let us know how you get on. You could always place a wanted ad. in the koniomega.org classifieds. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Jan 27 00:28:16 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (stephen yates) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:28:16 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Range of lenses for the KO Message-ID:



>From: Clive Warren
>Reply-To: koml@koni-omega.org
>To: koml@koni-omega.org
>Subject: Re: [KOML] Range of lenses for the KO
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:57:10 +0000
>
>At 1:32 pm -0600 26/1/01, stephen yates wrote:
>>Looking for different lenses besides the 90mm f3.5. I understand
>>there are two more available for my Knoi Omega Rapid 6X7, a wide
>>and
>>a telephoto. Does anyone know if these lenses are whorth searching
>>for. I understand they are extremely slow (the wide I believe is
>>only a f5.6). Are they very sharp? Do they cost much? Any info
>>on
>>these lenses for the K.O. Rapid would be deeply appreciated.
>
Clive

Thank you so much for the information.  I'm very excited about outfitting my Koni Omega with the lenses you have told me about.  Once I find them,  I'll let you where I found them and what I paid for them. 

Happy shooting

 

Stephen

>Hello Stephen,

>
>There are in fact three additional lenses, the 180mm, the 135mm, and
>the 58 (60)mm. All of the lenses are very high quality and very
>sharp
>so they are indeed worth searching for.
>
>The 135mm lens is usually very expensive as it was only produced for
>a couple of years. The other two lenses are more reasonably priced.
>
>Try a quick search on the web using Google and stick with a
>reputable
>dealer that offers a guarantee.
>
>Let us know how you get on. You could always place a wanted ad. in
>the koniomega.org classifieds.
>
>--
>All the best,
>
> Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk
> Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment,
>Infrared FAQ
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From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Feb 6 23:30:06 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:30:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] 135mm lens -- 62mm filters? Message-ID: <20010206233006.13203.qmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, (Please forgive any duplicates, as I am sending to both 'old' and 'new' KOML addresses. Is that the protocol these days?) Does anyone have experience with lens filters for the 135mm lens? (I await delivery of a 135 for my Omegaflex, but it should be the same as the Rapid 135 for purposes of this inquiry.) Specifically, has anybody used 62mm filters with this lens? The manual indicates that after removal of the Series 8 insert, the 135 should have a 67mm filter ring. I'm wondering whether it is then necessary to use 67mm filters, or whether I could save a few bucks and use my current collection of 62mm filters via a step-down ring (since the Series 8 is smaller than 67mm anyway). Has anybody done this? With what results -- any vignetting or other problems? What about with a 62mm circular polarizer? Also, what size rubber stopper does it take to remove the Series 8 ring? Thanks in advance for any info. -Paul Reese groove211@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Feb 7 09:24:33 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:24:33 +0000 Subject: [KOML] 135mm lens -- 62mm filters? In-Reply-To: <20010206233006.13203.qmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010206233006.13203.qmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 3:30 pm -0800 6/2/01, Paul R. wrote: > >Hello all, > >(Please forgive any duplicates, as I am sending to >both 'old' and 'new' KOML addresses. Is that the >protocol these days?) > >Does anyone have experience with lens filters for the >135mm lens? (I await delivery of a 135 for my >Omegaflex, but it should be the same as the Rapid 135 >for purposes of this inquiry.) Specifically, has >anybody used 62mm filters with this lens? > >The manual indicates that after removal of the Series >8 insert, the 135 should have a 67mm filter ring. I'm >wondering whether it is then necessary to use 67mm >filters, or whether I could save a few bucks and use >my current collection of 62mm filters via a step-down >ring (since the Series 8 is smaller than 67mm anyway). > >Has anybody done this? With what results -- any >vignetting or other problems? What about with a 62mm >circular polarizer? > >Also, what size rubber stopper does it take to remove >the Series 8 ring? > >Thanks in advance for any info. > >-Paul Reese >groove211@yahoo.com Hello Paul, Well sending to both the lists is fine at the moment. In fact is is good to see some traffic :-) I have had discussions with Jim about the old list on several occasions and he is happy to change over to the new list when the koniomega web site is up and running. Given the usual time constraints I have not yet finished the web site and it has had to take a back seat to the more commercial activities that pay the bills.... I will probably announce on the web site that the list is now fully operational as it has been tested and is running well. Given that there has been no advertising it is gratifying to see that some people have found the site and subscribed to the new list. The more who sign up the merrier - if you want to tell people about the list that's great. Now, on to the real subject of your post. There is an Omegaflex 135mm lens sitting at home which I have never used as I do not have an Omegaflex body (any offers considered) and the original intention was to use the taking lens as a donor for a Rapid Omega body. Although the lens has been stripped and rebuilt I cannot remember if the series filter insert is still in place. Given the lens is a telephoto design you may get away with 62mm filters - the only way to find out is to experiment either with film, a ground glass or tracing paper at the film plane, or simply looking by eye from the open back. If you use the "by eye" method, then open the aperture and ascertain where the "edge" of the front of the lens appears (if at all) at the film plane with the back open and looking through the back towards the lens at an angle. Add the step-down ring and filter and check again. A significant intrusion into the film plane area indicates that there will probably be vignetting. Closing down the aperture will show you at which stop you will need to set the lens to stop any vignetting. Hope all of that made sense :-) Please let us know how you get on. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Feb 9 00:38:09 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:38:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] Diopters - size & placement Message-ID: <20010209003809.20858.qmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, I hope this post will be of interest to someone other than me! (And any physics experts ...) I'm considering the use of screw-in diopters with my Omegaflex 90 and 135 lenses for close-up work. My question is: What size (diameter) should I buy? I know that after removing the Series rings, I'll have 49mm and 67mm filter rings, respectively. I assume 49mm and 67mm diopters would do the job, and that's the simple answer. However, since I'll want to cover both taking and viewing lenses, that means at least 4 different diopters (or SETS of diopters!). (And you RF users think the auto-ups are inconvenient?!) ;-) I'd like to simplify this if possible. As indicated in a prior post, I'm going to try using my existing 62mm filter collection with the 135, via a step-down ring. Assuming I get no vignetting with the filters, could I also use a 62mm diopter with the step-down ring? Or will I run into problems, e.g. because the stepping ring will move the diopter slightly forward of the filter ring? Put another way, does the distance of the diopter in front of the front lens element matter (vignetting aside)? And can I expect any problems or increased distortion from using "all" of the 62mm diopter (i.e., to its outer edges)? If the 62mm diopters work on the 135, the idea would be to use them on the 90mm lens also, via a 49-62mm step-up ring (or rings). Again, this will place the diopter forward of the filter ring (even farther forward than on the 135, if multiple stepping rings are required). Also, the diopter will be substantially 'wider' than the designed filter ring. Any (optical) problems with this set-up? As always, thanks in advance for any help. Regards, -Paul Reese (groove211@yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Feb 9 09:28:25 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:28:25 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Diopters - size & placement In-Reply-To: <20010209003809.20858.qmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010209003809.20858.qmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 4:38 pm -0800 8/2/01, Paul R. wrote: >Hello all, > >I hope this post will be of interest to someone other >than me! (And any physics experts ...) > >I'm considering the use of screw-in diopters with my >Omegaflex 90 and 135 lenses for close-up work. My >question is: What size (diameter) should I buy? I >know that after removing the Series rings, I'll have >49mm and 67mm filter rings, respectively. I assume >49mm and 67mm diopters would do the job, and that's >the simple answer. However, since I'll want to cover >both taking and viewing lenses, that means at least 4 >different diopters (or SETS of diopters!). (And you >RF users think the auto-ups are inconvenient?!) ;-) > >I'd like to simplify this if possible. As indicated >in a prior post, I'm going to try using my existing >62mm filter collection with the 135, via a step-down >ring. Assuming I get no vignetting with the filters, >could I also use a 62mm diopter with the step-down >ring? Or will I run into problems, e.g. because the >stepping ring will move the diopter slightly forward >of the filter ring? Put another way, does the >distance of the diopter in front of the front lens >element matter (vignetting aside)? And can I expect >any problems or increased distortion from using "all" >of the 62mm diopter (i.e., to its outer edges)? > >If the 62mm diopters work on the 135, the idea would >be to use them on the 90mm lens also, via a 49-62mm >step-up ring (or rings). Again, this will place the >diopter forward of the filter ring (even farther >forward than on the 135, if multiple stepping rings >are required). Also, the diopter will be >substantially 'wider' than the designed filter ring. >Any (optical) problems with this set-up? > >As always, thanks in advance for any help. > >Regards, > >-Paul Reese (groove211@yahoo.com) > Paul, The optimum solution would be to use the same diameter diopters as the filter thread of the lenses. As you add more attachments to the front of the lens ie stepping rings etc the more likely it is that you have vignetting. This is particularly true of the 90mm lens which has a wider angle of view than the 135mm. However , as you are considering using 62mm diameter diopters this will not be so much of a problem. The distance of the diopter in front of the lens is not critical, but the further away fron the front of the lens, the more likely that the edges of the diopter will be in the image area. This is something which you can determine by inspection. The quality of diopters varies according to manufacturer - all of them will give you a lower quality image than that possible from using a lens without diopters. I guess you probably know that already.... If you can find diopters which have some sort of coating on both sides of the glass that will help with the quality of any photos taken with the set up. I use diopters on digital cameras but usually use my feet to walk closer when using film. I guess perspective can be everything for some shots so this is not always an option. Am being nosey - what are the photographic subjects that you shoot which require diopters? -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://clive.bel-epa.com Adventures in Cyberspace - Digital Art and Photos From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Feb 9 17:46:38 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:46:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] Diopters - size & placement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010209174638.25928.qmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to both Clive and Chuck for the helpful tips! To answer Clive's question, the intended close-up subjects are the usual flowers and other natural objects. I've also wondered whether the 135 will get me close enough to my human and animal portrait subjects without spooking them (remember, we're talking about the TLR here!), and whether a +1 or +2 diopter might help in that regard. I understand I may run into trouble with limited DOF in that context. Because I am new to the world of diopters, and the prices vary greatly -- probably roughly with the optical quality -- I thought I would start with a 62mm set of cheapies (+1, +2, +4, maybe +10 "macro"). After determining which strengths are most useful to me (if any), and whether I have any problems with vignetting, I can spring for 'real' ones, and maybe use the cheapies on my viewing lens(es). Of course, I also have my eye out for reasonably-priced spacers (extension tubes) for the Omegaflex. If anybody's using one for a doorstop or paperweight, let me know! Regards, -Paul --- Chuck Skinner wrote: > > > > > > I would suggest using the dual-element closeup > lenses made by Nikon and > Canon (and perhaps others); I use a 72mm Canon 500D > with outstanding > results. > > Chuck Skinner > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Feb 13 07:58:05 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:58:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] Spacing problem -- diagnosis? Message-ID: <20010213075805.7530.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, Tonight I picked up the first roll through my Omegaflex (in fact, my first medium format roll ever!). I'm happy to report pretty good results, including a few quite impressive-looking frames (at least, to my 35mm eyes). The others, I think I can chalk up to my own shortcomings and inexperience with the camera. I did have a frame-spacing problem with the 120 back, and I'm hoping you can help me diagnose it. Frames 2 through 10 are spaced nicely, with slightly more space between the last few frames, and adequate clearance even from 2 to 3. However, frame 1 overlaps the paper leader by about 1 cm, AND just 'kisses' frame 2 on the other side. In other words, the film did not advance far enough to start (even though the "1" was showing in the frame counter window), and then did not advance far enough after frame 1. After frame 2, all spacing was fine. I'm wondering whether I might have loaded the film improperly, so that the take-up spool slipped during the initial advancing and a bit after frame 1, then began to grip securely? I followed all instructions in the manual, including lining the "start" arrows up with the red dot on the lower take-up spindle. However, I may not have pulled enough of the leader through the spool to prevent slippage? (It's hard to tell what's happening on the take-up spool once it's completed one full turn, and I found it pretty hard to turn.) I read today in the KOML archive about how Fuji film leaders have a hole which fits over a peg in the middle of the take-up spool, which I would think would prevent slippage. I'll certainly try that next time. Meanwhile, any and all diagnoses/suggestions are welcome! Thanks, -Paul Reese __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Feb 13 10:15:10 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:15:10 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Spacing problem -- diagnosis? In-Reply-To: <20010213075805.7530.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010213075805.7530.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 11:58 pm -0800 12/2/01, Paul R. wrote: snip > >Frames 2 through 10 are spaced nicely, with slightly >more space between the last few frames, and adequate >clearance even from 2 to 3. However, frame 1 overlaps >the paper leader by about 1 cm, AND just 'kisses' >frame 2 on the other side. In other words, the film >did not advance far enough to start (even though the >"1" was showing in the frame counter window), and then >did not advance far enough after frame 1. After frame >2, all spacing was fine. > >I'm wondering whether I might have loaded the film >improperly, so that the take-up spool slipped during >the initial advancing and a bit after frame 1, then >began to grip securely? I followed all instructions >in the manual, including lining the "start" arrows up >with the red dot on the lower take-up spindle. >However, I may not have pulled enough of the leader >through the spool to prevent slippage? (It's hard to >tell what's happening on the take-up spool once it's >completed one full turn, and I found it pretty hard to >turn.) > >I read today in the KOML archive about how Fuji film >leaders have a hole which fits over a peg in the >middle of the take-up spool, which I would think would >prevent slippage. I'll certainly try that next time. >Meanwhile, any and all diagnoses/suggestions are >welcome! > >Thanks, > >-Paul Reese Film spacing can be a problem on earlier backs ie for the type fitted to the Koni-Omega Rapid cameras, however by the time the Omegaflex came out the backs had been redesigned and are generally pretty good. There is an issue with cam wear on the part of the mechanism which governs how far the wind on plunger returns into the body as the number of exposures increase. However it sounds to me as though your problem is indeed slippage on the take-up reel immediately after loading the film. As long as you ensure that the "flap" leader is poked through one of the slots in the take-up reel and remains in the slot as you manually rotate the take-up reel to the point that you have turned the reel one complete revolution, then all should be fine! The Fuji idea of a peg works very well and is very easy to load - clever people at Fuji as even loading the film makes you feel good :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Feb 17 17:03:45 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Tom A. Trottier) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:03:45 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Spacing problem -- diagnosis? In-Reply-To: <20010213075805.7530.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3A8E68A1.23481.CFB722@localhost> You could also fold the leader tongue backwards & put a hard crease in with your fingernails to hold it. Tom On 12 Feb 2001, at 23:58, sayeth Paul R. ... > Frames 2 through 10 are spaced nicely, with slightly > more space between the last few frames, and adequate > clearance even from 2 to 3. However, frame 1 overlaps > the paper leader by about 1 cm, AND just 'kisses' > frame 2 on the other side. In other words, the film > did not advance far enough to start (even though the > "1" was showing in the frame counter window), and then > did not advance far enough after frame 1. After frame > 2, all spacing was fine. > > I'm wondering whether I might have loaded the film > improperly, so that the take-up spool slipped during > the initial advancing and a bit after frame 1, then > began to grip securely? I followed all instructions > in the manual, including lining the "start" arrows up > with the red dot on the lower take-up spindle. > However, I may not have pulled enough of the leader > through the spool to prevent slippage? (It's hard to > tell what's happening on the take-up spool once it's > completed one full turn, and I found it pretty hard to > turn.) > > I read today in the KOML archive about how Fuji film > leaders have a hole which fits over a peg in the > middle of the take-up spool, which I would think would > prevent slippage. I'll certainly try that next time. > Meanwhile, any and all diagnoses/suggestions are > welcome! ... -----------------------------------(no spam please) Tom Trottier ICQ: 57647974 Abacurial Information Technology Consulting 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 __o +1 613 291-1168 fax:594-5412 (877)247-8796 _ \ < Vote for your favourite Olympus camera at (+)/'(+) http://www.freevote.com/booth/fav_camera Mensa http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MensaOttawa From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Feb 19 17:57:38 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:57:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] Koni cable release: revisited In-Reply-To: <200102190713.XAA14563@mail.attitude.com> Message-ID: <20010219175738.5695.qmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> --- sheba@attitude.com wrote: > The actuator pin is about 1/8" too short to operate > the shutter. The > threads are the same but it just won't reach far > enough to fire. And > no, it doesn't have to press hard, the film pressure > plate actuates > with the film advance rod. I think only the > original rapid worked this > way. Well, does anyone know where I can find a new > cable > release that will work? Are there any short enough > to attach to the > grip clip? > Randy > sheba@attitude.com Randy, I'm going through a similar headache w/my new Omegaflex. The other day at the photo store I spent 10 minutes removing various 'standard' release cables from their packages and comparing their operation and 'throw distance'. I found there is quite a lot of variation in the length of the actuator rods when fully extended. In a well-stocked photo store, there should also be a good variety of lengths, so hopefully you'll find one with the right combination of length and 'throw'. I think you'll find a lot of generic/store-branded cables, some of which are quite good, along with an outside brand or two. As for my problem ... I bought a short (12") cable with the longest 'throw' I could find. This cable reliably trips the shutter -- but also 'jams' in the shutter release mechanism about 1 out of 3 times. So after tripping the shutter I have to unscrew the cable from the release button, fiddle with the cable to get the throw rod to retract, then re-insert it for the next exposure. Very irritating. Unless someone on the list has a better suggestion, I think I'm going to return to the photo store w/camera in hand, and try every cable in the place until I find one that works well. I'm just afraid my beast will draw a crowd! Regards, -Paul Reese __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Feb 21 14:57:38 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:57:38 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Koni cable release: revisited In-Reply-To: <20010219175738.5695.qmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010219175738.5695.qmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 9:57 am -0800 19/2/01, Paul R. wrote: > >--- sheba@attitude.com wrote: > > >> The actuator pin is about 1/8" too short to operate >> the shutter. The >> threads are the same but it just won't reach far >> enough to fire. And >> no, it doesn't have to press hard, the film pressure >> plate actuates >> with the film advance rod. I think only the >> original rapid worked this >> way. Well, does anyone know where I can find a new >> cable >> release that will work? Are there any short enough >> to attach to the >> grip clip? >> Randy >> sheba@attitude.com > > >Randy, > >I'm going through a similar headache w/my new >Omegaflex. The other day at the photo store I spent >10 minutes removing various 'standard' release cables >from their packages and comparing their operation and >'throw distance'. I found there is quite a lot of >variation in the length of the actuator rods when >fully extended. In a well-stocked photo store, there >should also be a good variety of lengths, so hopefully >you'll find one with the right combination of length >and 'throw'. I think you'll find a lot of >generic/store-branded cables, some of which are quite >good, along with an outside brand or two. > >As for my problem ... I bought a short (12") cable >with the longest 'throw' I could find. This cable >reliably trips the shutter -- but also 'jams' in the >shutter release mechanism about 1 out of 3 times. So >after tripping the shutter I have to unscrew the cable >from the release button, fiddle with the cable to get >the throw rod to retract, then re-insert it for the >next exposure. Very irritating. > >Unless someone on the list has a better suggestion, I >think I'm going to return to the photo store w/camera >in hand, and try every cable in the place until I find >one that works well. I'm just afraid my beast will >draw a crowd! > >Regards, > >-Paul Reese > >KOML mailing list >KOML@koni-omega.org >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml The best solution is one of the original short cables if you are going to use it in the grip clip. They are very heavy duty and do have the correct throw. For most other uses, the cable is too short and the only solution is to find a heavy duty cable which will do the job by taking your KO along to the photo store. The situation for the earlier Koni-Omega is a lot worse as the cable also has to push the film plate forwards to flatten the film. Jessops in the UK sell a heavy duty cable which will do the job but only for a limited time (depending on how often you use it). Using the heavy duty cable with the earlier Koni-Omega After a while the inner cable compresses or the outer cover stretches - this results in a release cable which will not work for K-O cameras. The ideal solution would be a heavy duty cable with an adjuster for throw of actuating rod. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Feb 25 17:18:29 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:18:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] Simmon Omega 120 on eBay Message-ID: <20010225171829.4250.qmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Hello list, For those of you who have not seen one, there is a Simmon Omega 120 currently listed on eBay (#1217384796), with some good pictures of the camera -- the predecessor of our Konis. The family resemblance is very clear! -Paul Reese __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Mar 7 15:14:02 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:14:02 +0000 Subject: [KOML] film back clutch overhall In-Reply-To: <200103060934.BAA01983@mail.attitude.com> References: <200103060934.BAA01983@mail.attitude.com> Message-ID: At 1:41 am -0800 6/3/01, sheba@attitude.com wrote: > >Hello list, >I have just recently finished overhauling the clutches on the take up >side of the film backs for my Koni Omega M. Even though the >camera was a one owner and included a back made for the >Mamiya made model 200, the grease had turned to glue in both of >them and made the older one nearly impossible to use. I mention >this because I plan to upload a complete step by step tutorial >complete with pictures on the whole process. With the help of >Greg Webber I had no problem getting the last parts disassembled >and cleaned and I thank him for his help. For those that are >mechanically inclined this will be relatively easy. For those that >aren't it should at least be interesting to see how the device works. >I don't recommend the procedure to those who have no patience. I >have around 25 black and white photo's ( which I still have to >process) then I will assemble them with a written description and >upload them to my site in the next month. I will post the address >here. >Randy >sheba@attitude.com Randy, That would be very useful - look forward to hearing the URL. If you are interested in having the pages posted at the kon-omega.org web site and off course attributed to yourself, then please contact me off the list at info@koni-omega.org. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Mar 30 00:46:07 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:46:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] Konica Aerial 6x6 w/135/3.5 Message-ID: <20010330004607.35973.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, There is an extraordinary camera up on eBay that I thought might interest some of you. It is a Konica Aerial Camera, which appears to be a distant cousin of our Konis. 6x6 format (12 exposures per 120 roll) with a (wind-up) mechanical motor drive, and apparently a single, fixed lens: The sought-after Hexanon 135/3.5. In light of its dedicated purpose, there is no rangefinder -- only a sportsfinder. Apparently a constant infinity focus is assumed. Great pictures of the camera (and a few taken with it) are included in the listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1225868480&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=986422291&indexURL=0&rd=1 Or, just search for item #1225868480. Enjoy! -Paul Reese __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Mar 30 13:21:28 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:21:28 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Filters and removing that piece on the lens In-Reply-To: <3AC3F52B.68E3@mindspring.com> References: <3AC3F52B.68E3@mindspring.com> Message-ID: At 9:53 pm -0500 29/3/01, C.L.Zeni wrote: > > >Have seen in the archives discussions about removing an item from the >front of the lens to allow a more common filter to be used. > >Can somebody please give me some more detail on how to do this? > >Thanks, >-- >Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com >http://www.trainweb.org/zeniphotos/zenihome.html >http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html Craig, The easiest way to remove the Series filter lens insert from the front of the 90mm Hexanon or Omegon lens is to get someone else to do it :-) For a DIY approach, simply find a rubber bung the correct size to but against the insert or just inside it without touching the glass of the front element and unscrew the insert ant-clockwise. Sometimes they are a little reluctant but most come out fairly easily. You then have a 49mm filter thread which is a lot friendlier for modern filters. Keeping the insert is a good idea just in case you ever find a CloseUp attachment which needs the Series thread rate of the insert to attach top the lens. A suitable rubber bung should cost you around $2 from a plumber or DIY shop. Let us know how you get on. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Mar 30 13:37:44 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:37:44 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Konica Aerial 6x6 w/135/3.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 4:50 pm -0800 29/3/01, Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter) wrote: > >Paul, > >There is also a 135mm for the KO/Ro on ebay if you or others are interested. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1225637216&r=0&t=0&sh >owTutorial=0&ed=986001434&indexURL=0&rd=1 > >Peter K > snippety Yep, and it only has a slightly bent rangefinder register pin - seller has a buy it now for $450 ....... no bids yet :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Mar 30 13:42:04 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:42:04 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Konica Aerial 6x6 w/135/3.5 In-Reply-To: <20010330004607.35973.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010330004607.35973.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 4:46 pm -0800 29/3/01, Paul R. wrote: > >Hello all, > >There is an extraordinary camera up on eBay that I >thought might interest some of you. It is a Konica >Aerial Camera, which appears to be a distant cousin of >our Konis. 6x6 format (12 exposures per 120 roll) >with a (wind-up) mechanical motor drive, and >apparently a single, fixed lens: The sought-after >Hexanon 135/3.5. > >In light of its dedicated purpose, there is no >rangefinder -- only a sportsfinder. Apparently a >constant infinity focus is assumed. > >Great pictures of the camera (and a few taken with it) >are included in the listing: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1225868480&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=986422291&indexURL=0&rd=1 > >Or, just search for item #1225868480. > >Enjoy! > >-Paul Reese Thanks for the pointer Paul. Have seen one of these go on EBay before, it may even be the same camera. Great for infinity shots and an interesting piece of kit. Have a feeling that the aero peops will push the price up out of reach. Notice that the camera back is not as well designed as a standard KO and will probably not keep the film as flat. Shame to waste that lens on a bit of curled film ;-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Apr 2 09:11:13 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:11:13 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Koni-Omega mailing lists. In-Reply-To: <3AC53104.350950D9@home.com> References: <3AC53104.350950D9@home.com> Message-ID: > >What is the relationship between this mailing list >(koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com) and the one offered by >http://www.koni-omega.org at >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml? This second mailing list >appears to have eleven (+ 2 "private") subscribers, and Peter K. and >Clive W. are not among them (unless they're the "private" ones. Can >someone explain what's going on? Evolution or revolution? > >Wendell Hello Wendell, Your question seems to have sparked off a whole raft of people sending un* *sub messages to the list! As you may or may not know, I have been archiving the koni-omega@snoopy.cmagic.com list for a number of years. This has been a bit of an overhead as I am not the list manager. A while ago I set up the koni-omega.org web site with the intention that it should grow to be a repository of all things K-O - time has been rather limited recently so it has not grown as fast as initially hoped. As part of that web site I set up a mailing list which could be archived automatically. Before setting up the mailing list I approached Jim (the owner of the snoopy list) and asked whether he would be prepared to switch over to the new list for ease of management. Jim said that he would consider it when the site had matured a bit. I guess that the site is still maturing..... As part of the maturation process I have archived this list on the new web site at koni-omega.org and set up the KOML list. Yes I am subscribed to the KOML list but you may not recognise the EMail address. The list has been active for some time and just sitting there - some people subscribed even though it stated on the site front page that the list was for testing purposes only! So I simply removed the statement about testing from the front page and more people have subscribed. I have more or less stopped posting to this list as it means less work archiving the posts :-) Hope that explains all - evolution and revolution :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Apr 2 09:31:14 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:31:14 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Filters and removing that piece on the lens In-Reply-To: <3AC4DD73.4CBD@mindspring.com> References: <3AC3F52B.68E3@mindspring.com> <3AC4DD73.4CBD@mindspring.com> Message-ID: At 2:24 pm -0500 30/3/01, C.L.Zeni wrote: > >Clive Warren wrote: >> >> At 9:53 pm -0500 29/3/01, C.L.Zeni wrote: >> > >> > >> >Have seen in the archives discussions about removing an item from the >> >front of the lens to allow a more common filter to be used. >> > >> >Can somebody please give me some more detail on how to do this? > > > >> >Thanks, >> >-- >> >Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com >> >http://www.trainweb.org/zeniphotos/zenihome.html > > >http://www.mindspring.com/~clzeni/index.html >> >> Craig, >> >> The easiest way to remove the Series filter lens insert from the >> front of the 90mm Hexanon or Omegon lens is to get someone else to do >> it :-) >> >> For a DIY approach, simply find a rubber bung the correct size to but >> against the insert or just inside it without touching the glass of >> the front element and unscrew the insert ant-clockwise. Sometimes >> they are a little reluctant but most come out fairly easily. >> >> You then have a 49mm filter thread which is a lot friendlier for >> modern filters. >> >> Keeping the insert is a good idea just in case you ever find a >> CloseUp attachment which needs the Series thread rate of the insert >> to attach top the lens. >> >> A suitable rubber bung should cost you around $2 from a plumber or DIY shop. >> >> Let us know how you get on. > >Thanks to all who replied...I located a rubber plug at a local hardware >store and was able to loosen the insert - however it took the front lens >elements with it. I tightened it back up and went off to my local >camera shop...with the proprietor we pulled the insert back out and >loosened the setscrews on it that secured the insert to the front lens >elements. Concurrently, the good proprietor pulled out several junque >boxes full of Series bits and gubbins. I rooted about in them for a >while and was able to assemble a lovely Kodak Series 7 yellow filter, a >Brand X converters to hold it and a suitable lens cap that all fit very >nicely on the insert. Total cost: $5.00...I couldn't buy a used 49mm >filter that that small amount :) > >Lesson learned: A good competent local camera store is quite an asset >to have... >-- >Craig Zeni - REPLY TO -->> clzeni at mindspring dot com Craig, Have copied the whole thread above as someone may find it useful in the archives. As far as I recall the set screws are loosened to remove the front elements rather than the insert. Correct me if I am wrong as it has been a couple of years since I last removed an insert and I don't have a camera in front of mr. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Apr 4 09:39:48 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 09:39:48 +0100 Subject: [KOML] there's a hair in my soup ! In-Reply-To: <3AC6BEED.4D59B0B5@bellatlantic.net> References: <3AC3F52B.68E3@mindspring.com> <3AC6BEED.4D59B0B5@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: At 12:38 am -0500 1/4/01, P. RENNER wrote: > > >my 90mm lens has a hair in it . it is on the edge & does not interfere >with my final results [ as long as i keep the f-stop @ 11 on up ]. does >anyone know if it is possible to remove the hair myself ? >chip renner Am replying on this list as no one else has but will probably not be posting much if at all from now on..... the new list at http://www.koni-omega.org does auto archiving and saves me time :-) Anyway, the short answer is yes! The longer answer is it depends where the hair is. It is probably on the underside of the top elements or the top side of the bottom elements. You will need to remove the top or bottom set of elements to clean the glass and remove the hair. It is some time since I have dismantled a 90mm lens but it is not too difficult. Both bottom and top sets of elements screw into the shutter and are removable as sets. I can't remember if there are any set screws holding the complete sets in place as there most certainly are for at least the front individual elements. This is only a concern if you need to remove individual elements. The safest way to deal with the problem is take the lens into a trusted camera shop and ask them to clean it - the whole lens could probably do with a CLA anyway. Bet it hasn't had one for 20 years :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 5 02:17:41 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [KOML] Konica Aerial sold on eBay - for $656! Message-ID: <20010405011741.37716.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> So, the aero types bidded this camera up to $656. This for a 6x6, 120-only camera with a fixed lens, infinity focus only, no shutter speeds slower than 1/60, no interchangeable backs, no Koni flat-film just-in-time pressure plate system ... Am I missing something here? Is the grey aluminum housing and spring-loaded motor-wind worth more to an aerial photog. than interchangeable lenses, interchangeable backs, and useability on the ground (i.e., variable focus)?! Okay, maybe its a Rooney-esque rant, but I'm bored as well as amazed. Let's see how many 'unsubscribe' replies I generate (might as well separate the wheat from the chaff!). -Paul Reese __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 5 10:22:50 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:22:50 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Konica Aerial sold on eBay - for $656! In-Reply-To: <20010405011741.37716.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010405011741.37716.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 6:17 pm -0700 4/4/01, Paul R. wrote: > >So, the aero types bidded this camera up to $656. >This for a 6x6, 120-only camera with a fixed lens, >infinity focus only, no shutter speeds slower than >1/60, no interchangeable backs, no Koni flat-film >just-in-time pressure plate system ... > >Am I missing something here? Is the grey aluminum >housing and spring-loaded motor-wind worth more to an >aerial photog. than interchangeable lenses, >interchangeable backs, and useability on the ground >(i.e., variable focus)?! > >Okay, maybe its a Rooney-esque rant, but I'm bored as >well as amazed. Let's see how many 'unsubscribe' >replies I generate (might as well separate the wheat >from the chaff!). > >-Paul Reese Paul, Had a feeling that the camera would go for a bundle. It is rather unique and if you compare price of modern options then it is still probably a good deal for a working aero camera. The last one I saw on EBay went for more - it may be the same camera....... As you pointed out, there are severe limitations for use in anything other than aircraft. The spring-loaded motor is a great asset though if you are 2000ft higher than the nearest battery shop ;-) Have a feeling that the real potential of the 135mm lens is never seen because of the back design - it does seem to be the weak point of the camera. You shouldn't generate too many unsubscribe messages on this list :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 5 19:55:01 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [KOML] Konica Aerial sold on eBay - for $656! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010405185501.11873.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Yep, you called this one Clive. I appreciate the difficulties of ground-to-air and air-to-air battery resupply (though the possibilities are intriguing). And I guess motor drive must be a real asset for those solo pilot/photogs. who just can't take their hands off the controls to advance the film. Poor saps probably can't even refill their (non-alcoholic) drinks. But hey, isn't that what autopilot is for? And if they can't advance the film manually, they certainly can't reload. Must be terribly inconvenient to have to land after every 12 frames! -Paul P.S. I don't know if I can take credit for today's "unsubscribe"; it wasn't a 'reply' to my rant. Referee? --- Clive Warren wrote: > Paul, > > Had a feeling that the camera would go for a bundle. > It is rather > unique and if you compare price of modern options > then it is still > probably a good deal for a working aero camera. > > The last one I saw on EBay went for more - it may be > the same camera....... > > As you pointed out, there are severe limitations for > use in anything > other than aircraft. The spring-loaded motor is a > great asset though > if you are 2000ft higher than the nearest battery > shop ;-) > > Have a feeling that the real potential of the 135mm > lens is never > seen because of the back design - it does seem to be > the weak point > of the camera. > > You shouldn't generate too many unsubscribe messages > on this list :-) > > -- > All the best, > > Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk > Photographic Services, Filters > and Equipment, Infrared FAQ > http://www.f32.net > Large Format Travel and Stock Photography __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Apr 6 12:19:40 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:19:40 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Konica Aerial sold on eBay - for $656! In-Reply-To: <20010405185501.11873.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010405185501.11873.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 11:55 am -0700 5/4/01, Paul R. wrote: > >Yep, you called this one Clive. > >I appreciate the difficulties of ground-to-air and >air-to-air battery resupply (though the possibilities >are intriguing). And I guess motor drive must be a >real asset for those solo pilot/photogs. who just >can't take their hands off the controls to advance the >film. Poor saps probably can't even refill their >(non-alcoholic) drinks. But hey, isn't that what >autopilot is for? > >And if they can't advance the film manually, they >certainly can't reload. Must be terribly inconvenient >to have to land after every 12 frames! > >-Paul Wonder if there are any pilots on the list ;-) Maybe the back takes 220 film so there could be 24 frames? Anyway, I would imagine that a lot of aerial photography is now done using digital cameras. They are great for infrared, which is just what you need to cut through that 2000ft of haze :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Apr 25 01:04:31 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Benno Jones) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:04:31 -0700 Subject: [KOML] Hexanon vs Super-Omegon Message-ID: <3AE6148F.FBF6770E@qwest.net> I have Koni-Omega M with a Super-Omegon 90mm lens and a Koni-Omega Rapid with a Koni-Omega Hexanon 90mm lens. Is there any real difference between the two? The Super-Omegon has a shutter that will not fire (gummed shutter leaves, I think), but if it's truely a better lens I would have it fixed. Thanks for your help! Benno Jones From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Apr 25 02:56:27 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [KOML] Hexanon vs Super-Omegon In-Reply-To: <3AE6148F.FBF6770E@qwest.net> Message-ID: <20010425015627.29270.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Benno, I don't have any direct experience with both lenses (very few do), nor am I aware of any good comparative test data (maybe someone on the list is?). But the conventional wisdom seems to be that when it comes to optical quality, the variability among Hexanon 90s and among Super-Omegon 90s is probably greater than any difference between the Hexanons as a group and the Super-Omegons as a group. Chalk this up to inevitable manufacturing variances, especially 30+ years ago. So there's no compelling reason to fix the Super-Omegon -- except to restore what is probably a good lens to usable condition. Maybe Greg Weber or another dealer/repair person would buy it as is. For some comparisons of two Hexanon 58s vs. a Super-Omegon 58, as well as a good illustration of the variability among Hexanon 90s, check out http://www.hevanet.com/cperez/MF_testing.html -Paul Reese --- Benno Jones wrote: > I have Koni-Omega M with a Super-Omegon 90mm lens > and a Koni-Omega Rapid > with a Koni-Omega Hexanon 90mm lens. Is there any > real difference > between the two? The Super-Omegon has a shutter > that will not fire > (gummed shutter leaves, I think), but if it's truely > a better lens I > would have it fixed. > > Thanks for your help! > > Benno Jones > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Apr 25 17:20:50 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:20:50 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Hexanon vs Super-Omegon In-Reply-To: <3AE6148F.FBF6770E@qwest.net> References: <3AE6148F.FBF6770E@qwest.net> Message-ID: At 5:04 pm -0700 24/4/01, Benno Jones wrote: > >I have Koni-Omega M with a Super-Omegon 90mm lens and a Koni-Omega Rapid >with a Koni-Omega Hexanon 90mm lens. Is there any real difference >between the two? The Super-Omegon has a shutter that will not fire >(gummed shutter leaves, I think), but if it's truely a better lens I >would have it fixed. > >Thanks for your help! > >Benno Jones There are no real differences between the lenses in terms of glass and coatings. The later Super-Omegon lenses may have a different shutter depending on age. However, given that both the Hexanon and Super-Omegon lenses are around 20 years old, you may have a lightly used and well maintained Hexanon which will have a better shutter than a later Super-Omegon which has been well used.... You may be interested in an old post from Peter on this very subject in the list archive on the KoniOmega web site: http://www.koni-omega.org/KOWS/KO_Archive/KoniData/msg01201.html -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Apr 25 17:39:13 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:39:13 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Hexanon vs Super-Omegon In-Reply-To: <20010425015627.29270.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010425015627.29270.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 6:56 pm -0700 24/4/01, Paul R. wrote: > > >--- Benno Jones wrote: >> I have Koni-Omega M with a Super-Omegon 90mm lens >> and a Koni-Omega Rapid >> with a Koni-Omega Hexanon 90mm lens. Is there any >> real difference >> between the two? The Super-Omegon has a shutter >> that will not fire >> (gummed shutter leaves, I think), but if it's truely >> a better lens I >> would have it fixed. >> >> Thanks for your help! >> > > Benno Jones > >Benno, > >I don't have any direct experience with both lenses >(very few do), nor am I aware of any good comparative >test data (maybe someone on the list is?). But the >conventional wisdom seems to be that when it comes to >optical quality, the variability among Hexanon 90s and >among Super-Omegon 90s is probably greater than any >difference between the Hexanons as a group and the >Super-Omegons as a group. Chalk this up to inevitable >manufacturing variances, especially 30+ years ago. > >So there's no compelling reason to fix the >Super-Omegon -- except to restore what is probably a >good lens to usable condition. Maybe Greg Weber or >another dealer/repair person would buy it as is. > >For some comparisons of two Hexanon 58s vs. a >Super-Omegon 58, as well as a good illustration of the >variability among Hexanon 90s, check out >http://www.hevanet.com/cperez/MF_testing.html > >-Paul Reese There is no discernible difference between the 90mm Hexanon and the Super-Omegon with enlargements up to 11x14 made in my darkroom. You would probably have to take a microscope to the negs to even differentiate between a "good" and a "bad" lens of the same type. Seems a good idea to have the lens CLA'd so that you have two usable cameras without the hassle of switching lenses..... I would also recommend Greg Weber if you are based in the USA. gweber@teknetwork.com -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 26 06:19:36 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Benno Jones) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:19:36 -0700 Subject: [KOML] Hexanon vs Super-Omegon References: <20010425015627.29270.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3AE7AFE8.A49791C6@qwest.net> Thanks for all the comments. What I'm probably going to do is shoot with both bodies and see which I like the best/works the best and then sell the other with the non-working lens. But, then again I might keep them both and fix the lens. We'll see.... Benno Jones (Who is indeed in the USA... Seattle in particular.) From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 26 07:19:01 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [KOML] Hexanon vs Super-Omegon In-Reply-To: <3AE7AFE8.A49791C6@qwest.net> Message-ID: <20010426061901.41605.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> --- Benno Jones wrote: > Thanks for all the comments. > > What I'm probably going to do is shoot with both > bodies and see which I > like the best/works the best and then sell the other > with the > non-working lens. But, then again I might keep them > both and fix the > lens. We'll see.... > > Benno Jones > (Who is indeed in the USA... Seattle in particular.) > Or, fix the Super-Omegon, shoot with both lenses, see which you like better, and sell the other with one of the bodies ... that's probably what I'd do! -Paul Reese (formerly from Seattle, now in L.A.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 26 15:16:08 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:16:08 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Hexanon vs Super-Omegon In-Reply-To: <3AE7AFE8.A49791C6@qwest.net> References: <20010425015627.29270.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> <3AE7AFE8.A49791C6@qwest.net> Message-ID: At 10:19 pm -0700 25/4/01, Benno Jones wrote: > >Thanks for all the comments. > >What I'm probably going to do is shoot with both bodies and see which I >like the best/works the best and then sell the other with the >non-working lens. But, then again I might keep them both and fix the >lens. We'll see.... > >Benno Jones >(Who is indeed in the USA... Seattle in particular.) Well the M and the KO Rapid are quite different in look and handling.... I use a KO Rapid with a 90mm lens much more than a 200 because it is lighter and less bulky. When travelling long distances the 200 usually comes along for the trip together with a range of backs and three lenses..... One of the disadvantages with the KO Rapid (apart from non-interchangeable backs) is that it uses the action of the shutter release to move the film plate forwards - this trashes cable releases fairly quickly. The genuine Koni release cable is indestructible, but too short :-) Keeping both cameras would be good insurance in case you do have a problem with one which needs repair shop downtime. Hey, I bet you can think of a whole range of good reasons for keeping the two ;-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 26 15:31:05 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:31:05 -0600 Subject: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? Message-ID: Hey guys, I have just talked to a fellow here at work who says that he has 1940's-ish Koni that his dad had given him. He says that one camera store around here was offering $1,000 for it. I was under the impression that Koni's were only from around the 60's. (and camera stores would be idiots to pay $1000 for a Koni) Can this be right? He says that he'll bring it in for me to see. We'll see... Barbara From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Apr 26 17:00:21 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:00:21 +0100 Subject: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:31 am -0600 26/4/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > >Hey guys, >I have just talked to a fellow here at work who says that he has 1940's-ish >Koni that his dad had given him. >He says that one camera store around here was offering $1,000 for it. >I was under the impression that Koni's were only from around the 60's. (and >camera stores would be idiots to pay $1000 for a Koni) > >Can this be right? >He says that he'll bring it in for me to see. >We'll see... > >Barbara > Hello Barbara, Good to hear from you :-) Yep, there is a late forties/early fifties Simmons Omega which was the precursor to the KOs we know and love today. They are not that common, but then again there is no real interest in them either... The Omega used a Wollensak lens and Rapax style shutter - alloy bodies and look even more distinctive than the KO which is an unusual looking camera anyway.... I have a couple of Simmons Omegas from different years - one is in better condition than the other. The camera shop can have the 2nd best one for, say $800 ;-) As with anything old and photographic - it's worth whatever someone wants to pay for it. I would say somewhere between $150 and $350 for one which is working. Mint condition with manuals, case, strap, lock of the salesperson's hair, signed receipt, etc etc then maybe $500. Trouble is, when you see the thing you will probably want it :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Feb 22 07:29:56 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:29:56 -0800 Subject: [KOML] Koni cable release: revisited In-Reply-To: References: <20010219175738.5695.qmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200102220725.XAA01895@mail.attitude.com> Date sent: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:57:38 +0000 From: Clive Warren Subject: Re: [KOML] Koni cable release: revisited To: koml@koni-omega.org, Koni-Omega Mailing List Copies to: New Koni Mail List Send reply to: "Koni-Omega Mailing List" > At 9:57 am -0800 19/2/01, Paul R. wrote: > > > >--- sheba@attitude.com wrote: > > > > > >> The actuator pin is about 1/8" too short to operate > >> the shutter. The > >> threads are the same but it just won't reach far > >> enough to fire. And > >> no, it doesn't have to press hard, the film pressure > >> plate actuates > >> with the film advance rod. I think only the > >> original rapid worked this > >> way. Well, does anyone know where I can find a new > >> cable > >> release that will work? Are there any short enough > >> to attach to the > >> grip clip? > >> Randy > >> sheba@attitude.com > > > > > >Randy, > > > >I'm going through a similar headache w/my new > >Omegaflex. The other day at the photo store I spent > >10 minutes removing various 'standard' release cables > >from their packages and comparing their operation and > >'throw distance'. I found there is quite a lot of > >variation in the length of the actuator rods when > >fully extended. In a well-stocked photo store, there > >should also be a good variety of lengths, so hopefully > >you'll find one with the right combination of length > >and 'throw'. I think you'll find a lot of > >generic/store-branded cables, some of which are quite > >good, along with an outside brand or two. > > > >As for my problem ... I bought a short (12") cable > >with the longest 'throw' I could find. This cable > >reliably trips the shutter -- but also 'jams' in the > >shutter release mechanism about 1 out of 3 times. So > >after tripping the shutter I have to unscrew the cable > >from the release button, fiddle with the cable to get > >the throw rod to retract, then re-insert it for the > >next exposure. Very irritating. > > > >Unless someone on the list has a better suggestion, I > >think I'm going to return to the photo store w/camera > >in hand, and try every cable in the place until I find > >one that works well. I'm just afraid my beast will > >draw a crowd! > > > >Regards, > > > >-Paul Reese > > > >KOML mailing list > >KOML@koni-omega.org > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > The best solution is one of the original short cables if you are > going to use it in the grip clip. They are very heavy duty and do > have the correct throw. > > For most other uses, the cable is too short and the only solution is > to find a heavy duty cable which will do the job by taking your KO > along to the photo store. > > The situation for the earlier Koni-Omega is a lot worse as the cable > also has to push the film plate forwards to flatten the film. > Jessops in the UK sell a heavy duty cable which will do the job but > only for a limited time (depending on how often you use it). > > Using the heavy duty cable with the earlier Koni-Omega After a while > the inner cable compresses or the outer cover stretches - this > results in a release cable which will not work for K-O cameras. > > The ideal solution would be a heavy duty cable with an adjuster for > throw of actuating rod. > > -- > All the best, > > Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk > Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ > http://www.f32.net > Large Format Travel and Stock Photography > > Thanks everyone for your ideas. When I bought the camera it was supposed to have an original working Koni cable release. However, when I opened the shipping box I found the cable release in the bottom and the threaded tip stuck in the shutter release button. The former owner is reluctantly refunding me compensation for this as he thought it was in one piece. Well, I was able to get the broken tip out of the shutter button with the tip of an exacto knife. I am sending him his broken cable release back so he can see it for himself. The saddest part of all this is that I am still without a working cable release and I will have to go out of town to shop for one since we don't have a camera store locally. Wish me luck on finding one. Randy sheba@attitude.com From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Apr 7 18:57:19 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Tom A. Trottier) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:57:19 -0400 Subject: [KOML] there's a hair in my soup ! In-Reply-To: References: <3AC6BEED.4D59B0B5@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <3ACF1CBF.21344.A4557A@localhost> I'd suggest it doesn't make any difference to the photos, so leave it alone until something mor major comes along. Tom On 4 Apr 2001, at 9:39, sayeth Clive Warren > At 12:38 am -0500 1/4/01, P. RENNER wrote: > > > > > >my 90mm lens has a hair in it . it is on the edge & does not interfere > >with my final results [ as long as i keep the f-stop @ 11 on up ]. does > >anyone know if it is possible to remove the hair myself ? > >chip renner ... -----------------------------------(no spam please) Tom Trottier President, Abacurial.com ICQ: 57647974 400 Slater St. Suite 415, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7S7 +1 613 291-1168 fax:594-5412 toll free(877)247-8796 From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Jun 22 05:30:53 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (kp knoll) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:30:53 +0200 Subject: [KOML] closeup with koni-omega Message-ID: hi, does anyone know how close you can get with the koni-omegas? please e-mail me directly. thanks in davance! klaus k. -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + + + piece of cake tel + fax: +43-(0)1-953.0228 + + baumannstrasse 9 cellular: +43-(0)699-1077.2684 + + 1030 wien http://www.a-piece-of-cake.org + + + +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Jun 22 18:11:26 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:11:26 +0100 Subject: [KOML] closeup with koni-omega In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 6:30 am +0200 22/6/01, kp knoll wrote: >hi, >does anyone know how close you can get with >the koni-omegas? please e-mail me directly. >thanks in davance! >klaus k. Hi Klaus, There are two close-up attachments for use with the standard 90mm lens - the auto-up 1 and auto-up 2. The KO wasn't really designed as a macro camera, however use of the attachments does allow close focusing. They are a little strange to use - the auto-ups are essentially a diopter lens with an attachment that sits in front of the viewfinder to give you some idea of what you are going to get :-) The auto-up 2 will allow focusing to about 16 in. Remember to hang on to the series 6 adapter in the standard lens though as the auto-ups use this thread to screw into the 90mm lens. An alternative is to use extension tubes and a ground glass screen - these are allegedly available but I've never seen them advertised. There's nothing rapid about the close-up attachments ;-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Jul 6 01:04:07 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 01:04:07 +0100 Subject: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:00 pm +0100 26/4/01, Clive Warren wrote: >At 8:31 am -0600 26/4/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: >> >>Hey guys, >>I have just talked to a fellow here at work who says that he has 1940's-ish >>Koni that his dad had given him. >>He says that one camera store around here was offering $1,000 for it. >>I was under the impression that Koni's were only from around the 60's. (and >>camera stores would be idiots to pay $1000 for a Koni) >> >>Can this be right? >>He says that he'll bring it in for me to see. >>We'll see... > >Hello Barbara, > >Good to hear from you :-) Yep, there is a late forties/early >fifties Simmons Omega which was the precursor to the KOs we know and >love today. They are not that common, but then again there is no >real interest in them either... snip >As with anything old and photographic - it's worth whatever someone >wants to pay for it. I would say somewhere between $150 and $350 for >one which is working. Mint condition with manuals, case, strap, lock >of the salesperson's hair, signed receipt, etc etc then maybe $500. > >Trouble is, when you see the thing you will probably want it :-) What did you think of the old Simmons Omega? I still haven't got around to servicing the shutters on the two I have here but do plan to use them just to test out the lenses. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Jul 9 01:19:00 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jim Thomas or Debbie Thomas) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 20:19:00 -0400 Subject: [KOML] Koni Omega Rapid 100 problem Message-ID: <3B48F873.E912114B@erols.com> Hello-- I am fairly new to this list, having recently acquired a Koni Omega Rapid 100 in trade from a camera buddy of mine. I think I've come to the conclusion that the camera has a problem. Let me try to describe it as best I can in hopes that someone might recognize what's happening. When I shoot with the camera with the lens set to infinity, it seems to work all right, but when I focus out and then attempt to wind the film without returning the lens to infinity, I end up in a situation where the lens won't properly retract to infinity- it's hitting inside on the back. Now, I can usually fix this by reaching under the lens and manually returning the cocking lever to where it should be, which then allows the lens to go back to infitnity, but I don't understand why this is happening. It seems as though the lever attached to the camera linkage isn't making contact with the back when the lens is racked out. Does this make any sense to anyone? The problem occurs with both the 120 and 200 backs. Thanks for any advice anyone might be able to give. Sincerely, Jim Thomas jwthomas@erols.com ____________________________________________________________________ Jim Thomas Debbie Thomas Rockville, Maryland USA e-mail: jwthomas@erols.com webpage: http://geocities.com/novartelma/ "That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!" --Pine Top Smith ____________________________________________________________________ From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Jul 9 01:21:03 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jim Thomas or Debbie Thomas) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 20:21:03 -0400 Subject: [KOML] Re: Koni Omega Rapid 100 problem References: <3B48F873.E912114B@erols.com> Message-ID: <3B48F8EF.A0F235E3@erols.com> Jim Thomas or Debbie Thomas wrote: > Does this make any sense to anyone? The problem occurs with both the > 120 and 200 backs. > Oops, obviously meant to say 220, not 200! Sorry... From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Jul 9 09:03:08 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:03:08 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Koni Omega Rapid 100 problem In-Reply-To: <3B48F873.E912114B@erols.com> References: <3B48F873.E912114B@erols.com> Message-ID: At 8:19 pm -0400 8/7/01, Jim Thomas or Debbie Thomas wrote: > >Hello-- > >I am fairly new to this list, having recently acquired a Koni Omega >Rapid 100 in trade from a camera buddy of mine. I think I've come to >the conclusion that the camera has a problem. Let me try to describe it >as best I can in hopes that someone might recognize what's happening. > >When I shoot with the camera with the lens set to infinity, it seems to >work all right, but when I focus out and then attempt to wind the film >without returning the lens to infinity, I end up in a situation where >the lens won't properly retract to infinity- it's hitting inside on the >back. Now, I can usually fix this by reaching under the lens and >manually returning the cocking lever to where it should be, which then >allows the lens to go back to infitnity, but I don't understand why this >is happening. It seems as though the lever attached to the camera >linkage isn't making contact with the back when the lens is racked out. > >Does this make any sense to anyone? The problem occurs with both the >120 and 200 backs. > >Thanks for any advice anyone might be able to give. > >Sincerely, > >Jim Thomas >jwthomas@erols.com > >____________________________________________________________________ >Jim Thomas >Debbie Thomas >Rockville, Maryland >USA > >e-mail: jwthomas@erols.com > >webpage: http://geocities.com/novartelma/ > > >"That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!" >--Pine Top Smith Hello Jim, Welcome to the list. You have a great camera in the 100 - sorry to hear that you are having a problem with it. I don't recall having heard of this problem before, however it seems to be associated with the levers that cock the shutter when the film is advanced. It is probably a simple problem to fix for a repair shop. The KO cameras are built in a fairly solid and intuitive way and any competent repair person should be able to sort out the problem fairly easily. I would recommend that you send the camera to Greg Weber: (402) 721-3873 gweber@teknetwork.com Greg has a Konica dealership and has been working with KOs for years. He is probably the best person in the US to make your 100 well again. BTW, the Pine Top Boogie happens to be one of my all time favourite songs - "when I say stop, you don't move a peg" :-) Let us know how you get on with the 100. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Jul 9 15:24:36 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 10:24:36 EDT Subject: [KOML] just got a KO Rapid Message-ID: <106.2448f77.287b18a5@aol.com> Hi, I just bought a KO Rapid as an entry medium format camera with two 120 backs. Why is it that sometimes when I focus, the vertical alignment is off? the horizontal is fine though. is that ok, or will it affect my print? and my seals are pretty worn out. will this cause definite light leaks and can i replace it myself with regular adhesive black foam or does it have to be neoprene? thanks! From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 10 01:29:09 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jim Thomas or Debbie Thomas) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:29:09 -0400 Subject: [KOML] Koni Omega Rapid 100 problem References: <3B48F873.E912114B@erols.com> Message-ID: <3B4A4C54.BD699A9@erols.com> Clive Warren wrote: > > > Hello Jim, > > Welcome to the list. You have a great camera in the 100 - sorry to > hear that you are having a problem with it. > > I don't recall having heard of this problem before, however it seems > to be associated with the levers that cock the shutter when the film > is advanced. It is probably a simple problem to fix for a repair > shop. The KO cameras are built in a fairly solid and intuitive way > and any competent repair person should be able to sort out the > problem fairly easily. > > I would recommend that you send the camera to Greg Weber: > > (402) 721-3873 > gweber@teknetwork.com > > Greg has a Konica dealership and has been working with KOs for years. > He is probably the best person in the US to make your 100 well again. > > BTW, the Pine Top Boogie happens to be one of my all time favourite > songs - "when I say stop, you don't move a peg" :-) > > Let us know how you get on with the 100. > > -- > All the best, > > Clive Clive, Thank you for the response! I have heard only good things about Greg Weber, and am considering sending the camera off to him. I am going to see how the test shots come out before deciding, because I am trying to so this on the cheap, as always. In addition to the problem I mentioned, the shutter sticks at 1/2 sec and 1 sec- a minor thing, but I may ask him for an estimate on that as well. Oh, and it's so nice to find another Pine Top fan! I thought he was my little secret... I found some of his 78s a few years back and thought they were a real hoot. ( I collect old records and phonographs too ). Lots of hobbies, and so little money! Best wishes, Jim ____________________________________________________________________ Jim Thomas Debbie Thomas Rockville, Maryland USA e-mail: jwthomas@erols.com webpage: http://geocities.com/novartelma/ "That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!" --Pine Top Smith ____________________________________________________________________ From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 10 10:31:15 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:31:15 +0100 Subject: [KOML] just got a KO Rapid In-Reply-To: <106.2448f77.287b18a5@aol.com> References: <106.2448f77.287b18a5@aol.com> Message-ID: At 10:24 am -0400 9/7/01, Maianeo@aol.com wrote: > >Hi, I just bought a KO Rapid as an entry medium format camera with >two 120 backs. Why is it that sometimes when I focus, the vertical >alignment is off? the horizontal is fine though. is that ok, or will >it affect my print? > >and my seals are pretty worn out. will this cause definite light >leaks and can i replace it myself with regular adhesive black foam >or does it have to be neoprene? thanks! The rangefinder needs adjusting - a job best left to a repair shop. You have probably read an earlier thread where I recommended Greg Weber - well he is probably the best person to fix your problem - here are his details again: > (402) 721-3873 > gweber@teknetwork.com The problem with the rangefinder image alignment will not affect your prints as long as the rangefinder is still accurate. You could test this with a roll of film using wide apertures with the photographic subject at various distances from the camera. You could also try using a piece of ground glass across the film plane to check focus. It's easier to get the problem fixed :-) Best to replace the seals - again Greg could do this, or you can buy the correct foam precut in strips to do the job. The time consuming part of the job is removing the old foam. This subject has been comprehensively covered in earlier threads on the old list. Try a quick search on "foam" or "+light +seals" in the old KO mailing list archives at: http://www.koni-omega.org/KOWS/KO_Archive/KOarch.htm The place to buy the foam is Fargo at http://www.fargo-ent.com/ - they are a camera tools specialist and supply the right sort of foam. The foam is at the following URL: http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/restore.htm Hope this helps. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 10 10:38:01 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:38:01 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Koni Omega Rapid 100 problem In-Reply-To: <3B4A4C54.BD699A9@erols.com> References: <3B48F873.E912114B@erols.com> <3B4A4C54.BD699A9@erols.com> Message-ID: At 8:29 pm -0400 9/7/01, Jim Thomas or Debbie Thomas wrote: snip > > >> I would recommend that you send the camera to Greg Weber: >> >> (402) 721-3873 > > gweber@teknetwork.com snip > > BTW, the Pine Top Boogie happens to be one of my all time favourite > > songs - "when I say stop, you don't move a peg" :-) > > >> Clive > >Clive, > >Thank you for the response! I have heard only good things about Greg >Weber, and am considering sending the camera off to him. I am going to >see how the test shots come out before deciding, because I am trying to >so this on the cheap, as always. In addition to the problem I >mentioned, the shutter sticks at 1/2 sec and 1 sec- a minor thing, but I >may ask him for an estimate on that as well. > >Oh, and it's so nice to find another Pine Top fan! I thought he was my >little secret... I found some of his 78s a few years back and thought >they were a real hoot. ( I collect old records and phonographs too ). >Lots of hobbies, and so little money! Jim, You will be impressed by the results - those Hexanon lenses take a lot of beating :-) Having accurate shutter speeds helps - a good CLA is the way forwards. As for Pine Top - you were lucky to find those 78s - I have a few early jazz and blues 78s but if I had the Pine Top Boogie on 78 would be a happy man :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Jul 16 23:43:35 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:43:35 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Bye bye Message-ID: Gees, people finally start talking again and other people leave! Barbara From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Jul 16 23:52:10 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:52:10 -0600 Subject: [KOML] RE: Bye bye Message-ID: Oops, wrong mailing list. I meant to send it to the other Koni mailing list! Barbara L. Spinnenweber the almost blonde Koni user > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Lee Spinnenweber > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 5:44 PM > To: KOML mailing list (E-mail) > Subject: Bye bye > > Gees, people finally start talking again and other people leave! > > Barbara > From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 17 01:27:48 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 01:27:48 +0100 Subject: [KOML] RE: Bye bye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 4:52 pm -0600 16/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: >Oops, wrong mailing list. I meant to send it to the other Koni mailing list! > >Barbara L. Spinnenweber >the almost blonde Koni user > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barbara Lee Spinnenweber >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 5:44 PM >> To: KOML mailing list (E-mail) >> Subject: Bye bye >> >> Gees, people finally start talking again and other people leave! >> > > Barbara Hello Barbara, I haven't had any mail from the old list for a long time. Good to hear from you again though - I did post a message asking whether you had bought that old Simmon Omega 120 that you asked about a while back. What did you think of it - did you buy it in the end? Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 17 15:00:09 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:00:09 -0600 Subject: [KOML] RE: Bye bye Message-ID: Hi Clive! It was never my "intention" of buying that old 1940's Koni. ;-D The guy here at work hasn't even brought it in yet. Every time he sees me, he keeps saying that he'll bring it in. He's the shop manager and has a lot of stuff going on. So, I think it'll be awhile before he'll bring it in. I suppose I could bug him about it. Hopefully, I'll have my digital camera with me when he finally brings it in. Barbara > -----Original Message----- > From: Clive Warren [mailto:cocam@cableinet.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 7:28 PM > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: [KOML] RE: Bye bye > > > At 4:52 pm -0600 16/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > >Oops, wrong mailing list. I meant to send it to the other > Koni mailing list! > > > >Barbara L. Spinnenweber > >the almost blonde Koni user > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Barbara Lee Spinnenweber > >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 5:44 PM > >> To: KOML mailing list (E-mail) > >> Subject: Bye bye > >> > >> Gees, people finally start talking again and other people leave! > >> > > > Barbara > > Hello Barbara, > > I haven't had any mail from the old list for a long time. Good to > hear from you again though - I did post a message asking whether you > had bought that old Simmon Omega 120 that you asked about a while > back. What did you think of it - did you buy it in the end? > > Cheers, > > Clive > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 17 16:10:26 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:10:26 +0100 Subject: [KOML] RE: Bye bye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:00 am -0600 17/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Clive Warren [mailto:cocam@cableinet.co.uk] > > >> Hello Barbara, >> >> I haven't had any mail from the old list for a long time. Good to >> hear from you again though - I did post a message asking whether you >> had bought that old Simmon Omega 120 that you asked about a while >> back. What did you think of it - did you buy it in the end? >> >> Cheers, >> > > Clive > >Hi Clive! >It was never my "intention" of buying that old 1940's Koni. ;-D >The guy here at work hasn't even brought it in yet. Every time he sees me, >he keeps saying that he'll bring it in. He's the shop manager and has a lot >of stuff going on. So, I think it'll be awhile before he'll bring it in. I >suppose I could bug him about it. >Hopefully, I'll have my digital camera with me when he finally brings it in. Well you may be tempted when you see the camera! They are interesting pieces of kit. Mine need some work before they can be used but am looking forward to trying them out. They seem a lot lighter than the later KOs, probably because there is more use od alloys in the construction compared to the steel of the later cameras. The lens is made by Wollensak. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 17 22:46:02 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (P. RENNER) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:46:02 -0400 Subject: [KOML] the other list References: Message-ID: <3B54B21A.F2D0C485@bellatlantic.net> is there more conversation on the other list ? are the lists at all connected w/ each other ? why did everyone leave this one group ? what is the url 0of the other group ? any info would be appreciated. grays From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 17 23:17:56 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:17:56 -0600 Subject: [KOML] the other list Message-ID: I get the two list confused, but I think you have the right one. I know that one list was hard to archive or something and they found a better way to do it, so the other list was created. Or something like that. Well, I don't remember. The old list doesn't have a whole lot going on in it. I don't think you've missed anything. We are just a quite group. I suppose most of us are out taking pictures. ;-D Barbara > -----Original Message----- > From: P. RENNER [mailto:grays@bellatlantic.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 4:46 PM > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: [KOML] the other list > > > is there more conversation on the other list ? are the lists > at all connected w/ > each other ? > why did everyone leave this one group ? what is the url 0of > the other group ? > any info would be appreciated. > grays > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Jul 18 01:15:11 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:15:11 +0100 Subject: [KOML] the other list In-Reply-To: <3B54B21A.F2D0C485@bellatlantic.net> References: <3B54B21A.F2D0C485@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: >is there more conversation on the other list ? are the lists at all >connected w/ >each other ? >why did everyone leave this one group ? what is the url 0of the other group ? >any info would be appreciated. >grays Some explanation is called for! I have been a member of the old list for a long time and posted a lot there. I set up an archive for the list which became a little labour intensive. So a while ago I suggested to the old list owner that I would be happy to pay for hosting an automatically archived list running through the http://www.konio-omega.org web site. He preferred to wait until the site was better developed before changing over. The archive of the old list is at http://www.koni-omega.org. Well, the new list was active at that point but it stated on the KO web site that it was for testing purposes only. Surprisingly people started to subscribe and use the new list, so I simply removed the testing message and made it live! Traffic on the old list had died down almost completely before this. In fact there were large numbers of unsubscribe messages which seemed to indicate that the management was a bit slack also. I did make an announcement on the old list about the new list as a result of some questions and have had no mail from the old list since (several months now). So, the answer to your question is that there is almost no traffic on the old list and I no longer archive it. The new list is alive and well with auto archiving and you are on it! :-) The new list also has a web-based interface for users as you are probably aware - the old list had none of these facilities. Think that about covers it :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Jul 20 20:57:40 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 13:57:40 -0600 Subject: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? Message-ID: Hey Clive, Well he brought the camera in today. The camera guy that told him that it was a 1940s camera was very wrong. He has a 200. He was not very familiar with parts of the camera so I showed him. He was a little dissappointed that it wasn't the 40s model. But, I let him know that it still is an excellent camera and his dad had great taste. Incidently, I was browsing on ebay today and saw that they have a Simmons Omega up for bid. I think I typed "Koni*" in the search of medium format to get it. I'm buying a house, so I can not buy a camera. Thanks, Barbara > -----Original Message----- > From: Clive Warren [mailto:cocam@cableinet.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:04 PM > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: Re: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? > > > At 5:00 pm +0100 26/4/01, Clive Warren wrote: > >At 8:31 am -0600 26/4/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > >> > >>Hey guys, > >>I have just talked to a fellow here at work who says that > he has 1940's-ish > >>Koni that his dad had given him. > >>He says that one camera store around here was offering > $1,000 for it. > >>I was under the impression that Koni's were only from > around the 60's. (and > >>camera stores would be idiots to pay $1000 for a Koni) > >> > >>Can this be right? > >>He says that he'll bring it in for me to see. > >>We'll see... > > > >Hello Barbara, > > > >Good to hear from you :-) Yep, there is a late forties/early > >fifties Simmons Omega which was the precursor to the KOs we know and > >love today. They are not that common, but then again there is no > >real interest in them either... > snip > >As with anything old and photographic - it's worth whatever someone > >wants to pay for it. I would say somewhere between $150 and $350 for > >one which is working. Mint condition with manuals, case, strap, lock > >of the salesperson's hair, signed receipt, etc etc then maybe $500. > > > >Trouble is, when you see the thing you will probably want it :-) > > What did you think of the old Simmons Omega? I still haven't got > around to servicing the shutters on the two I have here but do plan > to use them just to test out the lenses. > > -- > All the best, > > Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk > Photographic Services, Filters and > Equipment, Infrared FAQ > http://www.f32.net > Large Format Travel and Stock Photography > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 24 09:42:00 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:42:00 +0100 Subject: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 1:57 pm -0600 20/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > >Hey Clive, >Well he brought the camera in today. The camera guy that told him that it >was a 1940s camera was very wrong. He has a 200. He was not very familiar >with parts of the camera so I showed him. He was a little dissappointed that >it wasn't the 40s model. But, I let him know that it still is an excellent >camera and his dad had great taste. > >Incidently, I was browsing on ebay today and saw that they have a Simmons >Omega up for bid. I think I typed "Koni*" in the search of medium format to >get it. I'm buying a house, so I can not buy a camera. > >Thanks, > >Barbara Ah well, at least you made the chap feel that he had a good camera even if it wasn't an Omega 120. Thanks for the pointer to the Simmon Omega on EBay - did have a quick look and unusually it is in very nice condition. Certainly better than mine :-) Have not looked for a couple of days but would imagine the final price will reflect the condition. Collectors do not generally seem to have picked up on the old Omega 120s..... Guess it's tricky choosing between buying a house or a camera - houses are more expensive here ;-) Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 24 14:35:31 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:35:31 -0600 Subject: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? Message-ID: Hey Clive, Do you happen to know where the manual can be found online? I used to have a couple copies and can't find a single one! I can't use the excuse of packing 'cause I haven't packed my photography stuff yet. I know I gave one or two to the fellows that I sold the cameras too, but surely I would have kept one for myself. I do have the "technical" book, that I bought on ebay. But, I don't think that's gonna help the "new" guy out. Thanks, Barbara > -----Original Message----- > From: Clive Warren [mailto:Clive.Warren@baesystems.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:42 AM > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: RE: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? > > > At 1:57 pm -0600 20/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > > > >Hey Clive, > >Well he brought the camera in today. The camera guy that > told him that it > >was a 1940s camera was very wrong. He has a 200. He was not > very familiar > >with parts of the camera so I showed him. He was a little > dissappointed that > >it wasn't the 40s model. But, I let him know that it still > is an excellent > >camera and his dad had great taste. > > > >Incidently, I was browsing on ebay today and saw that they > have a Simmons > >Omega up for bid. I think I typed "Koni*" in the search of > medium format to > >get it. I'm buying a house, so I can not buy a camera. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Barbara > > > Ah well, at least you made the chap feel that he had a good camera > even if it wasn't an Omega 120. > > Thanks for the pointer to the Simmon Omega on EBay - did have a quick > look and unusually it is in very nice condition. Certainly better > than mine :-) Have not looked for a couple of days but would imagine > the final price will reflect the condition. Collectors do not > generally seem to have picked up on the old Omega 120s..... > > Guess it's tricky choosing between buying a house or a camera - > houses are more expensive here ;-) > > Cheers, > Clive > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 24 16:25:36 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:25:36 -0600 Subject: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? Message-ID: Oops. Never mind. I found it. Barbara > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Lee Spinnenweber > [mailto:BSpinnenweber@toromontprocess.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:36 AM > To: 'koml@koni-omega.org' > Subject: RE: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? > > > Hey Clive, > Do you happen to know where the manual can be found online? I > used to have a > couple copies and can't find a single one! I can't use the > excuse of packing > 'cause I haven't packed my photography stuff yet. I know I > gave one or two > to the fellows that I sold the cameras too, but surely I > would have kept one > for myself. > > I do have the "technical" book, that I bought on ebay. > > But, I don't think that's gonna help the "new" guy out. > > Thanks, > > > Barbara > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Clive Warren [mailto:Clive.Warren@baesystems.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:42 AM > > To: koml@koni-omega.org > > Subject: RE: [KOML] 1940's Koni??? > > > > > > At 1:57 pm -0600 20/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > > > > > >Hey Clive, > > >Well he brought the camera in today. The camera guy that > > told him that it > > >was a 1940s camera was very wrong. He has a 200. He was not > > very familiar > > >with parts of the camera so I showed him. He was a little > > dissappointed that > > >it wasn't the 40s model. But, I let him know that it still > > is an excellent > > >camera and his dad had great taste. > > > > > >Incidently, I was browsing on ebay today and saw that they > > have a Simmons > > >Omega up for bid. I think I typed "Koni*" in the search of > > medium format to > > >get it. I'm buying a house, so I can not buy a camera. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Barbara > > > > > > Ah well, at least you made the chap feel that he had a good camera > > even if it wasn't an Omega 120. > > > > Thanks for the pointer to the Simmon Omega on EBay - did > have a quick > > look and unusually it is in very nice condition. Certainly better > > than mine :-) Have not looked for a couple of days but > would imagine > > the final price will reflect the condition. Collectors do not > > generally seem to have picked up on the old Omega 120s..... > > > > Guess it's tricky choosing between buying a house or a camera - > > houses are more expensive here ;-) > > > > Cheers, > > Clive > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 24 17:57:16 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:57:16 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Rapid Omega 200 Manual In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 7:35 am -0600 24/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > >Hey Clive, >Do you happen to know where the manual can be found online? I used to have a >couple copies and can't find a single one! I can't use the excuse of packing >'cause I haven't packed my photography stuff yet. I know I gave one or two >to the fellows that I sold the cameras too, but surely I would have kept one >for myself. > >I do have the "technical" book, that I bought on ebay. > >But, I don't think that's gonna help the "new" guy out. > >Thanks, > >Barbara At 9:25 am -0600 24/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > > >Oops. Never mind. I found it. > >Barbara Hello Barbara, Yes I do know but don't have the info. with me at the moment. Now that you've found the URL - how about posting it? :-) -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 24 18:01:34 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:01:34 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Rapid Omega 200 Manual Message-ID: Of course I'll share. The online manual: http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/komega/komanual.pdf Barbara > -----Original Message----- > From: Clive Warren [mailto:Clive.Warren@baesystems.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 11:57 AM > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: [KOML] Rapid Omega 200 Manual > > > At 7:35 am -0600 24/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > > > >Hey Clive, > >Do you happen to know where the manual can be found online? > I used to have a > >couple copies and can't find a single one! I can't use the > excuse of packing > >'cause I haven't packed my photography stuff yet. I know I > gave one or two > >to the fellows that I sold the cameras too, but surely I > would have kept one > >for myself. > > > >I do have the "technical" book, that I bought on ebay. > > > >But, I don't think that's gonna help the "new" guy out. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Barbara > At 9:25 am -0600 24/7/01, Barbara Lee Spinnenweber wrote: > > > > > >Oops. Never mind. I found it. > > > >Barbara > > > Hello Barbara, > > Yes I do know but don't have the info. with me at the moment. Now > that you've found the URL - how about posting it? :-) > > -- > All the best, > > Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk > Photographic Services, Filters and > Equipment, Infrared FAQ > http://www.f32.net > Large Format Travel and Stock Photography > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Jul 24 18:14:55 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (P. RENNER) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:14:55 -0400 Subject: [KOML] portrait lense References: Message-ID: <3B5DAD0E.9CAD35A@bellatlantic.net> could you please give me some info on the 135 & 180mm koni lenses . I want to take headshots & full body shots . which do you recommend . chip From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Jul 25 10:39:49 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:39:49 +0100 Subject: [KOML] portrait lense In-Reply-To: <3B5DAD0E.9CAD35A@bellatlantic.net> References: <3B5DAD0E.9CAD35A@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: At 1:14 pm -0400 24/7/01, P. RENNER wrote: > > >could you please give me some info on the 135 & 180mm koni lenses . >I want to take >headshots & full body shots . which do you recommend . >chip Hello Chip, Neither for headshots! That is if you want to fill the frame as the minimum focusing distances for both lenses will not allow this. There are allegedly spacing tubes available that fit between body and lens, but I have never seen one - you would have to work out another focusing method if the tubes were used as the rangefinder would no longer be calibrated. As for full body shots, the 180mm would be ideal - a lot cheaper, performs well and is easier to find. One of my favourite shots was taken using the 180mm full body against an ancient redwood tree. -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Aug 2 18:26:16 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:26:16 EDT Subject: [KOML] LENS AND EQUIPMENT FOR "M" Message-ID: <47.ed7d219.289ae738@aol.com> I AM INTERESTED IN GETTING THE FOLLOWING : 60MM/VIEW FINDER 135MM 180MM 120 BACK/COMPLETE THE LOCATION OF A REPAIR SERVICE SPECIALIST FOR KONI-OMEGA. ANY AND ALL INFO WILL BE MOST HELPFUL. THANK YOU From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Aug 2 22:21:22 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:21:22 +0100 Subject: [KOML] LENS AND EQUIPMENT FOR "M" In-Reply-To: <47.ed7d219.289ae738@aol.com> References: <47.ed7d219.289ae738@aol.com> Message-ID: At 1:26 pm -0400 2/8/01, GENDERWARS3@aol.com wrote: >I AM INTERESTED IN GETTING THE FOLLOWING : >60MM/VIEW FINDER >135MM >180MM >120 BACK/COMPLETE >THE LOCATION OF A REPAIR SERVICE SPECIALIST FOR KONI-OMEGA. > >ANY AND ALL INFO WILL BE MOST HELPFUL. > >THANK YOU Hello, This is a friendly list so please feel free to tell us your name! Oh, and did you know that upper case letters means you are shouting on a list? :-) MidWest Photo are a good source of Koni kit and they are usually good people to deal with http://www.mpex.com/ - tell them that KOML sent you.... As for repair specialists, there is only one that I would recommend and that is Greg Weber: (402) 721-3873 gweber@teknetwork.com Greg has a Konica dealership and has been working with KOs for years. He is probably the best person in the US for KO servicing. Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Aug 20 08:06:39 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Frank Earl) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:06:39 -0700 Subject: [KOML] Two RO 200's and stuff Message-ID: <003101c12946$a8a4b2a0$2184b118@santab1.ca.home.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C1290B.FC138000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realize that nearly everyone on this mailing list is probably already = an owner of a Koni- or Rapid-Omega, but I have enjoyed this list for a = long time (including the previous list) and would like to pass this by = list members before I go to ebay. I have enjoyed the RO's , but have = come to the decision that I am an SLR type person and just have to admit = it. So I have the following for sale. 2 Rapid Omega 200 bodies with 90mm lenses and 120 roll-film backs, no = covers. 2 additional 120 roll-film backs, 1 with home-made groundglass, no = covers 2 220 roll-film backs with covers 1 sportsfinder 1 nicely Xeroxed copy of the repair manual (purchased from a member of = this list) 1 20 page color advertising brochure from Berkey Marketing titled "Rapid Omega The professional system...because every shot counts." The brochure lists all the lenses and accessories with part-numbers for = the RO 100 and 200 and has pictures of most of them including the = auto-up, universal flash bracket and the compartment case. I would like to sell this as a package at a price of $400 plus shipping = and insurance. As a package, I have tried to price this less than each = part would go on ebay, but not so much less that someone would buy it = and break it up for sale. And I may be interested in a trade of some = sort. If you have an interest please email me at fbearl@home.com. I = would be happy to supply description, condition and pictures. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C1290B.FC138000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The brochure lists all the lenses and = accessories=20 with part-numbers for the RO 100 and 200 and has pictures of most of = them=20 including the auto-up, universal flash bracket and the compartment=20 case.
I would like to sell this as a package = at a price=20 of $400 plus shipping and insurance.  As a package, I have tried to = price=20 this less than each part would go on ebay, but not so much less that = someone=20 would buy it and break it up for sale.  And I may be interested in = a trade=20 of some sort.  If you have an interest please email me at fbearl@home.com.  I would be = happy to=20 supply description, condition and = pictures.
------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C1290B.FC138000-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Aug 26 12:43:47 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Medium-wide) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:43:47 -0300 Subject: [KOML] 20mm spacer Message-ID: <003c01c12e24$5ed80400$3d48de18@terryjam> Can someone please tell me what the "20mm spacer" is? Thanks! MW From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Aug 26 23:20:25 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:20:25 +0100 Subject: [KOML] 20mm spacer In-Reply-To: <003c01c12e24$5ed80400$3d48de18@terryjam> References: <003c01c12e24$5ed80400$3d48de18@terryjam> Message-ID: >Can someone please tell me what the "20mm spacer" is? > >Thanks! >MW This could be one of the legendary but rarely seen lens spacers for the Rapid Omegas to allow closer focusing - you would need to use a ground glass back as the rangefinder would be inaccurate with the spacer attached between the lens and body. It is more likely that it is a spacer for the Omegaflex - I did have one of these new in the box supplied for use with a Rapid Omega and had to return it. Never dealt with that company again as they had the cheek to charge me a restocking fee! If it is for a Rapid Omega and you are not interested then I am so please contact me off the list as I have been looking for one for a while. Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Sep 28 14:39:16 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Douglas Gallup) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:39:16 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Lens caps Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928073317.00a8c190@pop.et.byu.edu> Hello, My Rapid Omega 100 needs a lens cap. Unfortunately, I don't know any good camera stores around that might carry something like that, but I can buy some push on caps via mail order for various sizes. Does anybody know what size I would need and whether I should look for a screw on lens cap instead? I haven't removed that inside ring on the lens with a rubber bung like various people have mentioned, nor am I really interested in doing it. It looks to me like I'd need a 44mm or 45mm cap, but I'm not sure. --Doug From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Sep 28 14:50:25 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:50:25 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Lens caps References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928073317.00a8c190@pop.et.byu.edu> Message-ID: <000801c14824$878ef4c0$6986aec7@oemcomputer> I can't help you Doug. Can you help me find a 220 film insert for my rapid Omega 100? Thanks Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Gallup" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:39 AM Subject: [KOML] Lens caps > Hello, > My Rapid Omega 100 needs a lens cap. Unfortunately, I don't know any good > camera stores around that might carry something like that, but I can buy > some push on caps via mail order for various sizes. Does anybody know what > size I would need and whether I should look for a screw on lens cap > instead? I haven't removed that inside ring on the lens with a rubber bung > like various people have mentioned, nor am I really interested in doing > it. It looks to me like I'd need a 44mm or 45mm cap, but I'm not sure. > --Doug > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Sep 28 17:51:29 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Medium-wide) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:51:29 -0300 Subject: [KOML] Lens caps References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928073317.00a8c190@pop.et.byu.edu> Message-ID: <001101c1483d$d2e1c1a0$3d48de18@terryjam> Doug, I guess my inside ring was previously removed on my 90mm lens because it takes a 49mm cap, which is widely available. I'd be very interested in knowing where you can get push-on caps by mailorder. MW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Gallup" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: [KOML] Lens caps > Hello, > My Rapid Omega 100 needs a lens cap. Unfortunately, I don't know any good > camera stores around that might carry something like that, but I can buy > some push on caps via mail order for various sizes. Does anybody know what > size I would need and whether I should look for a screw on lens cap > instead? I haven't removed that inside ring on the lens with a rubber bung > like various people have mentioned, nor am I really interested in doing > it. It looks to me like I'd need a 44mm or 45mm cap, but I'm not sure. > --Doug > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Sep 28 17:58:28 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:58:28 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Lens caps Message-ID: My guess is that it is a series 7 (or was it 6?) with the ring and a 49mm w/o the ring. Barbara > -----Original Message----- > From: Medium-wide [mailto:mediumwide@bwr.eastlink.ca] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:51 AM > To: koml@koni-omega.org > Subject: Re: [KOML] Lens caps > > > Doug, > > I guess my inside ring was previously removed on my 90mm lens > because it > takes a 49mm cap, which is widely available. I'd be very > interested in > knowing where you can get push-on caps by mailorder. > > MW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Gallup" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:39 AM > Subject: [KOML] Lens caps > > > > Hello, > > My Rapid Omega 100 needs a lens cap. Unfortunately, I > don't know any good > > camera stores around that might carry something like that, > but I can buy > > some push on caps via mail order for various sizes. Does > anybody know > what > > size I would need and whether I should look for a screw on lens cap > > instead? I haven't removed that inside ring on the lens > with a rubber > bung > > like various people have mentioned, nor am I really > interested in doing > > it. It looks to me like I'd need a 44mm or 45mm cap, but > I'm not sure. > > --Doug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > KOML mailing list > > KOML@koni-omega.org > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Sep 28 18:29:48 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Douglas Gallup) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:29:48 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Lens caps Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928110955.00b1c060@pop.et.byu.edu> > My guess is that it is a series 7 (or was it 6?) with the ring and a 49mm > w/o the ring. > > Barbara I think I remember from reading old posts that it's a Series 6 with the inside ring (for the 90 mm lens) but I think I've heard that other lenses might be Series 7 and/or 8. Maybe I'll just pull out the inner ring and buy a 49 mm lens cap. Somebody more knowledgeable will have to correct me if I'm wrong about the series numbers for the lenses... As to requests for locations to buy lens caps and 220 backs, I only know a couple of places on the Internet that offer them. I've never personally ordered anything from them, but I've only heard good things about them (they're all in the US as far as I know). Here's some places I've looked at: bhphoto.com (lots of Koni Omega stuff, plus they have lens caps listed on-line of almost any size.... if someone knows the diameter of Series 6, that might work), adorama.com, and mpex.com. (I'm not trying to advertise here, just showing where you might get started on looking for extra stuff!). I'm sure if you look around, you'll probably find more places on the internet, but having a good local camera store where you can bring in and test equipment would probably be better! From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Sep 28 19:40:26 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:40:26 +0100 Subject: [KOML] Lens caps In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928073317.00a8c190@pop.et.byu.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928073317.00a8c190@pop.et.byu.edu> Message-ID: At 7:39 am -0600 28/9/01, Douglas Gallup wrote: >Hello, >My Rapid Omega 100 needs a lens cap. Unfortunately, I don't know >any good camera stores around that might carry something like that, >but I can buy some push on caps via mail order for various sizes. >Does anybody know what size I would need and whether I should look >for a screw on lens cap instead? I haven't removed that inside ring >on the lens with a rubber bung like various people have mentioned, >nor am I really interested in doing it. It looks to me like I'd >need a 44mm or 45mm cap, but I'm not sure. >--Doug Hello Doug, Push on caps may not be a particularly good solution as there should be an integrated lens shade on your 90mm lens that is fairly thin and could be put out of shape by the continual removal and fitting of a push-on lens cap. The best solution is to remove the series filter from the lens and open up the possibilities for use of modern 49mm filters, adapters and accessories. The only drawback to removing the series filter ring is that you won't be able to use the KO Auto-up close up lens accessories without it. Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Sep 28 20:32:09 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:32:09 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Lens caps Message-ID: Yes, you are correct. The 90 mm is a series 6 with the ring, 49 mm w/o ring. Series 7 is for the 58/60 mm lens. And the 135/180 both use 67 mm filters. I suppose you'd have to figure out which lenses you plan on owning and then go from there and get step up rings that might save you more money than buying a set for every lens. But with a step up ring with these lenses, you won't be able to stretch the lens hood out. Definitely keep the inner ring even if you decide to go the 49 mm route. The Auto-Up is a cool attachment that requires it! As far as stores, I've found KEH to be one of my favorites for Koni stuff. I got some nice things from them over the net and have pleasant dealings with them. I also use many other stores including B&H. Barbara From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Oct 5 07:26:54 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 02:26:54 EDT Subject: [KOML] RANGEFINDER TO DISTANCE SCALE CONGRUITY Message-ID: HOPE SOME ONE CAN HELP WITH THIS ? I RECENTLY OBTAINED TWO KO 'M' CAMERAS WITH 60/90/180 LENSES. ALL WERE GIVEN COMPLETE SERVICE BY GREG WEBER. MY PRIOR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN WITH TTL & TWIN LENS MEDIUM FORMAT AND VIEW CAMERAS. TO THE POINT : I'M HAVING GREAT DIFFICULTY FOCUSING THESE KO RANGEFINDERS UNDER FIELD AND TEST USE. THE LENS AND THE DISTANCE SCALES ARE CLOSE UP TO ~10 FEET. THEN THEY DIVERGE AS I FOCUS ON OBJECTS FARTHER AWAY. THE CAMERA SCALE READS CONSISTENTLY LOW. AN OBJECT 40 FEET AWAY WILL READ OUT BETWEEN 15-30 FEET AND THE JUMP BETWEEN 50 [90MM] OR 100 [180MM] FEET AND INFINITY IS STAGGERING. I MEAN I'VE FOCUSED ON A SUBJECT 100'S OF FEET AWAY AND STILL NOT HIT INFINITY. NO BIG DEAL? EXCEPT MY SHOTS ARE NOT SHARP. THE FOREGROUND IS IN FOCUS- THE SUBJECT AND BACKGROUND IS NOT! I'M STILL WORKING WITH THE CAMERAS AND I CRASHED AND BURNED USING THE 180MM...... SO ..... AM I UNIQUE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE?? OR IS THERE SOMETHING YOUR NOT TELLING ME? IS THIS RANGEFINDER SYSTEM A ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS ---- OR --- [ I HOPE] AM I ON THE LOW END OF THE LEARNING CURVE AND CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE TACK SHARP IMAGES THIS SYSTEM IS REPORTED TO RENDER? THANKS FOR ANY HELP, WILLIAM TUMATH From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 11 00:34:45 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:34:45 +0100 Subject: [KOML] RANGEFINDER TO DISTANCE SCALE CONGRUITY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >HOPE SOME ONE CAN HELP WITH THIS ? > >I RECENTLY OBTAINED TWO KO 'M' CAMERAS WITH 60/90/180 LENSES. ALL WERE GIVEN >COMPLETE SERVICE BY GREG WEBER. >MY PRIOR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN WITH TTL & TWIN LENS MEDIUM FORMAT AND VIEW >CAMERAS. >TO THE POINT : I'M HAVING GREAT DIFFICULTY FOCUSING THESE KO RANGEFINDERS >UNDER FIELD AND TEST USE. THE LENS AND THE DISTANCE SCALES ARE CLOSE UP TO >~10 FEET. THEN THEY DIVERGE AS I FOCUS ON OBJECTS FARTHER AWAY. THE CAMERA >SCALE READS CONSISTENTLY LOW. >AN OBJECT 40 FEET AWAY WILL READ OUT BETWEEN 15-30 FEET AND THE JUMP BETWEEN >50 [90MM] OR 100 [180MM] FEET AND INFINITY IS STAGGERING. I MEAN I'VE FOCUSED >ON A SUBJECT 100'S OF FEET AWAY AND STILL NOT HIT INFINITY. >NO BIG DEAL? EXCEPT MY SHOTS ARE NOT SHARP. THE FOREGROUND IS IN FOCUS- THE >SUBJECT AND BACKGROUND IS NOT! >I'M STILL WORKING WITH THE CAMERAS AND I CRASHED AND BURNED USING THE >180MM...... SO ..... AM I UNIQUE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE?? OR IS THERE SOMETHING >YOUR NOT TELLING ME? IS THIS RANGEFINDER SYSTEM A ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS ---- >OR --- [ I HOPE] AM I ON THE LOW END OF THE LEARNING CURVE AND CAN LOOK >FORWARD TO THOSE TACK SHARP IMAGES THIS SYSTEM IS REPORTED TO RENDER? > >THANKS FOR ANY HELP, > >WILLIAM TUMATH Hello William, Did you know that upper case is the equivalent of shouting in an EMail?! Anyway, the KO rangefinders are excellent and after a Greg Weber CLA they should be spot on and easy to use. Best plan is to call Greg and ask his advice. If both cameras exhibit the same problem then it may be something else.... Let us know how you get on. Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 11 02:26:11 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jack Fallon) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:26:11 -0400 Subject: [KOML] RANGEFINDER TO DISTANCE SCALE CONGRUITY References: Message-ID: <000701c151f3$b6f81920$835a89d0@smilinjack> Hey Clive..Good advise..I was thinking the same. Smilin' Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Clive Warren To: Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] RANGEFINDER TO DISTANCE SCALE CONGRUITY > >HOPE SOME ONE CAN HELP WITH THIS ? > > > >I RECENTLY OBTAINED TWO KO 'M' CAMERAS WITH 60/90/180 LENSES. ALL WERE GIVEN > >COMPLETE SERVICE BY GREG WEBER. > >MY PRIOR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN WITH TTL & TWIN LENS MEDIUM FORMAT AND VIEW > >CAMERAS. > >TO THE POINT : I'M HAVING GREAT DIFFICULTY FOCUSING THESE KO RANGEFINDERS > >UNDER FIELD AND TEST USE. THE LENS AND THE DISTANCE SCALES ARE CLOSE UP TO > >~10 FEET. THEN THEY DIVERGE AS I FOCUS ON OBJECTS FARTHER AWAY. THE CAMERA > >SCALE READS CONSISTENTLY LOW. > >AN OBJECT 40 FEET AWAY WILL READ OUT BETWEEN 15-30 FEET AND THE JUMP BETWEEN > >50 [90MM] OR 100 [180MM] FEET AND INFINITY IS STAGGERING. I MEAN I'VE FOCUSED > >ON A SUBJECT 100'S OF FEET AWAY AND STILL NOT HIT INFINITY. > >NO BIG DEAL? EXCEPT MY SHOTS ARE NOT SHARP. THE FOREGROUND IS IN FOCUS- THE > >SUBJECT AND BACKGROUND IS NOT! > >I'M STILL WORKING WITH THE CAMERAS AND I CRASHED AND BURNED USING THE > >180MM...... SO ..... AM I UNIQUE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE?? OR IS THERE SOMETHING > >YOUR NOT TELLING ME? IS THIS RANGEFINDER SYSTEM A ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS ---- > >OR --- [ I HOPE] AM I ON THE LOW END OF THE LEARNING CURVE AND CAN LOOK > >FORWARD TO THOSE TACK SHARP IMAGES THIS SYSTEM IS REPORTED TO RENDER? > > > >THANKS FOR ANY HELP, > > > >WILLIAM TUMATH > > Hello William, > > Did you know that upper case is the equivalent of shouting in an EMail?! > > Anyway, the KO rangefinders are excellent and after a Greg Weber CLA > they should be spot on and easy to use. Best plan is to call Greg > and ask his advice. If both cameras exhibit the same problem then it > may be something else.... > > Let us know how you get on. > > Cheers, > Clive > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 11 13:11:58 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:11:58 EDT Subject: [KOML] Re: Repairs Message-ID: --part1_f3.10719a02.28f6e68e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, anyone have the e-mail address for Greg Weber? Mr. Jean Chonoles, Naples, Fl. --part1_f3.10719a02.28f6e68e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, anyone have the e-mail address for Greg Weber?  Mr. Jean Chonoles, Naples, Fl. --part1_f3.10719a02.28f6e68e_boundary-- From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 11 14:40:38 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Barbara Lee Spinnenweber) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:40:38 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Re: Repairs Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C15259.AC0017E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. =A0 Greg Weber's email: gweber@teknetwork.com (I think) =A0 His address is: =A0 2022 E. 7th Street Fremont, NE 68025 (402) 721-3873 =A0 He's a very friendly guy. =A0 Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Jc0bones@aol.com [mailto:Jc0bones@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: koml@koni-omega.org Subject: [KOML] Re: Repairs Hi, anyone have the e-mail address for Greg Weber? =A0Mr. Jean = Chonoles, Naples, Fl.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C15259.AC0017E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi.
 
Greg Weber's email:
 
His address is:
 
2022 E. 7th Street
Fremont, NE 68025
(402) 721-3873
 
He's a very friendly guy.
 

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:12 AM
To: koml@koni-omega.org
Subject: [KOML] Re: Repairs

Hi, anyone have the e-mail address for Greg Weber?  Mr. Jean Chonoles, Naples, Fl.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C15259.AC0017E0-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Oct 6 05:53:37 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Robert Monaghan) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 23:53:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [KOML] re: accuracy In-Reply-To: <20011005160425.19EA453AE3@pairlist.net> Message-ID: mine is dead accurate on the RF, esp at infinity; this sounds like either an RF focusing adjustment is needed, or possibly a vision related issue? see http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/komega/komanual.pdf online manual be sure the lens and film are mounted correctly etc. and then guage or document the errors and contact Mr. Weber about your problem and see if you can't get the rangefinder alignment rechecked. regards bobm * Robert Monaghan POB752182 Southern Methodist University, Dallas Tx 75275 * * Third Party 35mm Lenses: http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/third/index.html * * Medium Format Cameras: http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/index.html * From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 18 02:10:40 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:10:40 EDT Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing Message-ID: <49.127ebdba.28ff8610@aol.com> --part1_49.127ebdba.28ff8610_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello; I'm wondering if anyone might be using a lab that they would recommend for 120/220 B&W processing and prints. Jean Chonoles; Naples, Florida --part1_49.127ebdba.28ff8610_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello; I'm wondering if anyone might be using a lab that they would recommend  for 120/220  B&W processing and prints.
Jean Chonoles; Naples, Florida --part1_49.127ebdba.28ff8610_boundary-- From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 18 03:27:02 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jack Fallon) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:27:02 -0400 Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing References: <49.127ebdba.28ff8610@aol.com> Message-ID: <000a01c1577c$606cf880$045a89d0@smilinjack> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1575A.D83E01A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jean...not to be confused with hygene..right down the corner from me = is a camera store with in store processing of good quality. There must = be plenty near you. If not e- mail me back for more info. P.S. my name is Jack and I request that no one say hi to me at = airports. Just hello will do. Who needs a HI Jack at an airport these = days? smilinjack@tds.net I have plenty of K.O. stuff for sale. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jc0bones@aol.com=20 To: koml@koni-omega.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing Hello; I'm wondering if anyone might be using a lab that they would = recommend for 120/220 B&W processing and prints.=20 Jean Chonoles; Naples, Florida=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1575A.D83E01A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jean...not to be confused with = hygene..right=20 down the corner from me is a camera store with in store processing of = good=20 quality.  There must be plenty near you.  If not e- mail me = back for=20 more info.
P.S.  my name is Jack and I = request that no=20 one say hi to me at airports.  Just hello will do.  Who needs = a HI=20 Jack at an airport these days?   smilinjack@tds.net  &nbs= p; I have=20 plenty of K.O. stuff for sale.
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Subject: [KOML] Medium Format = Film=20 Processing and Printing

Hello; I'm = wondering if=20 anyone might be using a lab that they would recommend  for = 120/220=20  B&W processing and prints.
Jean Chonoles; Naples, = Florida=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1575A.D83E01A0-- From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 18 12:28:37 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Michael Scott / ATT) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:28:37 -0400 Subject: [KOML] KOML - Rapid-M Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C157A6.80C200B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all: I have been a subscriber to this list in the past and have enjoyed all the helpful information and a few laughs provided by its particapents. At this time I am selling my Koni Omega gear. I would like to give you folks a crack at it before I go out to E-bay or some other route. Legend - VG = Very Good condition EX = Excellent condition Equipment: Koni-Omega Rapid M body - VG 90 MM lens VG 58 MM F5.6 lens with wide angle viewer and case. EX 180 MM F4.5 lens silver caseing and protecting case. EX+ 2 120 Film magazines VG 1 copy of manual 1 hand made focusing screen using part of 120 film magazine and frosted glass. The above I would like to sell as a kit for $600 I also have some spare bodies, magazines and a 90 mm lens all in need of repair which I still need to inventory and price. Please send all serious inquires to my email address at scot809@attglobal.net Thanks, Michael Scott ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C157A6.80C200B0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IiULAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAANEHCgASAAcAHAAAAAQAGwEB A5AGAFwHAAAiAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAB4AcAAB AAAADwAAAEtPTUwgLSBSYXBpZC1NAAACAXEAAQAAABYAAAABwVfIBwJO1KDXUTtBE515EOtig2q/ AAACAR0MAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlNDT1Q4MDlAQVRUR0xPQkFMLk5FVAAACwABDgAAAABAAAYOAGA1 8cdXwQECAQoOAQAAABgAAAAAAAAAjO6au61HcEWorsRVZRr+msKAAAALAB8OAQAAAAIBCRABAAAA agMAAGYDAACbBAAATFpGdRD08C4DAAoAcmNwZzEyNRYyAPgLYG4OEDAzM08B9wKkA+MCAGNoCsBz sGV0MCAHEwKAfQqBknYIkHdrC4BkNAxgDmMAUAsDC7UgSGVs5QkAIAdAbDoKogqECoCESSAQ8HZl IGIJ4eEUICBzdWIE8hWgBcCSdBQQdGgEACBsBAB/BUALgBbhFYAKsBdhAHBk4xVECfBqb3kJgBQi F7PhF9BscGZ1AyALgAIQcnIAwHRpAiAYQxXwZqMH0QtgdWdoBCBwA2CnEiABABhwYnkXgHQcEWMK wBrQY2FwCfAdAC5fEWAFQBbzGtAHgCAVMGGObRYAE+ELgGcgbRzQoksCIGkgTweAZxXwXGdlCsAd 8BUwdwhgbJsYcBdAaxWAFsFnaRVx7nkIYBtwBvBrBCAV8AUA/QDQaxQgF3EFQBWgGoEewh5nFBAI YB4hFBBFLWK2YRzQBbFzA3AVgG8XwbcFwANgJJBlHfAUekwgUAMJ8BhwLSBWRyA95yfgBJAc0Edv BHAi8AIgXmQc8BrhFHUBkSAqEEXiWCgRRXhjE+EdsSjf8RSDRXF1BSAHgAIwFGv1H+ItIDRSHZAc cAXQFZCvBHAc0CfSFHQ5EVBNLvAnKuEEIC+GNTgwIkY1/C42MFQD8BbwMiEBABhB+mcq4CASIhaR GFIdgBEgJx3wKkAUdDE4MBNGNOwuNTBUAJBsFXAFwDPi7x9yGFIcMSZgYxrQH4Ez5rIrFHQyIA4g EVBGAxD3HxAAwCBgeguAB5En8TRllSshcCUxZjlBbnUHQD86FxDwGGEAwDKhAhBjdf8AkB+BBPEV sjzkHTI64jjC/mY5GhhDA1EXYBkxMvAYEPsd4BR6VBfRAaAcUB7CIRw/HzIUICLCEmAFQBqBICT8 NjABQBSLB0AlgBVEJYOecwqxFYEEcAiQcyw5SfsbJDABbR8QMGMZYheRObCvGTE68QlwCrBpBcB3 FwD/EOAe0RdgAxADIEljFsELgP8VcAIwBbAc0DbEDeAmcBR6/lAq4DPxHyEbMhlxESAFEP8IYAQg C4AskQlwHnEUEB+x7mUAwAMRPHBkT4EiwQVApwTwJdA00DlAGsB0MvDSbyUQbC45sHRA3ABw1SKw LBR6TUpxYRPgBgAvUUFSexR0EeEAVqAAAAsAAYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAOFAAAAAAAA AwADgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEIUAAAAAAAADAAeACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABS hQAAfW4BAB4ACYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFSFAAABAAAABAAAADkuMAALAA2ACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAACChQAAAQAAAAsAOoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAAAAAwA8 gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADAD2ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAYhQAA AAAAAAsAUoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAaFAAAAAAAAAwBTgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAAYUAAAAAAAACAfgPAQAAABAAAACM7pq7rUdwRaiuxFVlGv6aAgH6DwEAAAAQAAAAjO6au61H cEWorsRVZRr+mgIB+w8BAAAAmgAAAAAAAAA4obsQBeUQGqG7CAArKlbCAABQU1RQUlguRExMAAAA AAAAAABOSVRB+b+4AQCqADfZbgAAAEM6XERvY3VtZW50cyBhbmQgU2V0dGluZ3NcbWljaGFlbHNc TG9jYWwgU2V0dGluZ3NcQXBwbGljYXRpb24gRGF0YVxNaWNyb3NvZnRcT3V0bG9va1xvdXRsb29r LnBzdAAAAAMA/g8FAAAAAwANNP03AAACAX8AAQAAADUAAAA8SEFFRktJS09FSUxMUFBLQkZETk5D RURMQ0RBQS5zY290ODA5QGF0dGdsb2JhbC5uZXQ+AAAAAAMABhARDKT0AwAHEM4CAAADABAQAAAA AAMAERAAAAAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASEVMTE9BTEw6SUhBVkVCRUVOQVNVQlNDUklCRVJUT1RISVNM SVNUSU5USEVQQVNUQU5ESEFWRUVOSk9ZRURBTExUSEVIRUxQRlVMSU5GT1JNQVRJT05BTkRBRkVX TEFVR0hTUAAAAADN1g== ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C157A6.80C200B0-- From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Oct 18 13:48:10 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:48:10 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing References: <49.127ebdba.28ff8610@aol.com> Message-ID: <002e01c157d3$255dba20$42e379a5@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C157A9.3BA5DDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jean. Yes I recommend you do it yourself. It's very easy and = much better than you'll get anywhere else. David R. Heald (Ron) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jc0bones@aol.com=20 To: koml@koni-omega.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing Hello; I'm wondering if anyone might be using a lab that they would = recommend for 120/220 B&W processing and prints.=20 Jean Chonoles; Naples, Florida=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C157A9.3BA5DDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
     Hi=20 Jean. Yes I recommend you do it yourself. It's very easy and much better = than=20 you'll get anywhere else. David R. Heald   = (Ron)
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From:=20 Jc0bones@aol.com=20
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Subject: [KOML] Medium Format = Film=20 Processing and Printing

Hello; I'm = wondering if=20 anyone might be using a lab that they would recommend  for = 120/220=20  B&W processing and prints.
Jean Chonoles; Naples, = Florida=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C157A9.3BA5DDA0-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Oct 20 21:46:12 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (P. RENNER) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:46:12 -0400 Subject: [KOML] flatbed scanners References: Message-ID: <3BD1E293.D48E6BEC@bellatlantic.net> I know this is not about infrared but what the heck... I am looking for a flatbed scanner that can scan 35mm , 120 & 4x5 . any recommendations ? I have heard that the microtek 4 is good for the larger negs - however the 35mm negs are not that great . thanks for any info , chip From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Oct 21 02:41:12 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:41:12 EDT Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing Message-ID: <8a.e372fd5.290381b8@aol.com> --part1_8a.e372fd5.290381b8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dave; Thanks for your observation to which I whole heartedly agree. I had started hand processing Verichrome Ortho in my bathroom when I was 12 Y.O. Contact printed the 6x7 negatives with a desk lamp and caught the bug. 20 years later set up a lab in a 3x4 closet in a N.Y.C. apartment using a Spiritone enlarger and did some good work except for suffocating a bit. 10 years after that, had a decent darkroom, small bedroom size with water. Retired in Florida I have been totally dissatisfied with the quality of work done by the local Publix, Eckert, etc. I should say that the local Wal-Mart, 1 Hour, using Fuji equipment, does the best so far. (The send-away at the same Wal-Mart has ruined 2 rolls of film already -135.) I have found several 'Pro' labs in the south Florida area and will let you know how the work turns out. Around Naples, no B+W services available. Probably TC400N processing using C-41, but never tried it yet. Just started using the K.O. 6x7 format again and anxiously await the results using the 90mm and 180mm. Jean, Naples, Florida --part1_8a.e372fd5.290381b8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dave; Thanks for your observation to which I whole heartedly agree. I had started hand processing Verichrome Ortho in my bathroom when I was 12 Y.O. Contact printed the 6x7 negatives with a desk lamp and caught the bug. 20 years later set up a lab in a 3x4 closet in a N.Y.C. apartment using a Spiritone enlarger and did some good work except for suffocating a bit. 10 years after that, had a decent darkroom, small bedroom size with water.
      Retired in Florida I have been totally dissatisfied with the quality of work done by the local Publix, Eckert, etc. I should say that the local Wal-Mart, 1 Hour, using Fuji equipment, does the best so far. (The send-away at the same  Wal-Mart has ruined 2 rolls of film already   -135.) I have found several 'Pro' labs in the south Florida area and will let you know how the work turns out. Around Naples, no B+W services available. Probably TC400N processing using C-41, but never tried it yet. Just started using the K.O. 6x7 format again and anxiously await the results using the 90mm and 180mm.
Jean,            Naples, Florida --part1_8a.e372fd5.290381b8_boundary-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Oct 21 12:39:17 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 06:39:17 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing References: <8a.e372fd5.290381b8@aol.com> Message-ID: <001401c15a25$050e5640$628faec7@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C159FB.1B45B0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jean. Thanks for replying to my suggestion (it really wasn't meant = in a smartass way). I'm retired myself and have been into photography = for more years than I'd like to admit. I was an autobody and painter by = profession, but my first love has always been photography. I had a = darkroom about the same size as the one you mention back in the sixties = and early seventies and it was cramped and I nearly choked to death, but = as I look back I realize I did some of my best work in that small = darkroom. I don't have a darkroom now, but I have about everything I = need to make one. I have two enlargers, trays dev. tanks, changing bags, = thermometer and many other things. I also have a Canon Rebel 2000 auto = everything lazy mans camera that I use for most everything now. I'm not = familiar with the film you mentioned. I still long for the days of = Panotomic X developed in Rodinol. I'm still a B&W person at heart. Hope = to hear from you again. Ron=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jc0bones@aol.com=20 To: koml@koni-omega.org=20 Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: [KOML] Medium Format Film Processing and Printing Dear Dave; Thanks for your observation to which I whole heartedly = agree. I had started hand processing Verichrome Ortho in my bathroom = when I was 12 Y.O. Contact printed the 6x7 negatives with a desk lamp = and caught the bug. 20 years later set up a lab in a 3x4 closet in a = N.Y.C. apartment using a Spiritone enlarger and did some good work = except for suffocating a bit. 10 years after that, had a decent = darkroom, small bedroom size with water.=20 Retired in Florida I have been totally dissatisfied with the = quality of work done by the local Publix, Eckert, etc. I should say that = the local Wal-Mart, 1 Hour, using Fuji equipment, does the best so far. = (The send-away at the same Wal-Mart has ruined 2 rolls of film already = -135.) I have found several 'Pro' labs in the south Florida area and = will let you know how the work turns out. Around Naples, no B+W services = available. Probably TC400N processing using C-41, but never tried it = yet. Just started using the K.O. 6x7 format again and anxiously await = the results using the 90mm and 180mm.=20 Jean, Naples, Florida=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C159FB.1B45B0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  Hi = Jean. Thanks for=20 replying to my suggestion (it really wasn't meant in a smartass way). = I'm=20 retired myself and have been into photography  for more years than = I'd like=20 to admit. I was an autobody and painter by profession, but my first love = has=20 always been photography. I had a darkroom about the same size as the one = you=20 mention back in the sixties and early seventies and it was cramped and I = nearly=20 choked to death, but as I look back I realize I did some of my best work = in that=20 small darkroom. I don't have a darkroom now, but I have about everything = I need=20 to make one. I have two enlargers, trays dev. tanks, changing bags, = thermometer=20 and many other things. I also have a Canon Rebel 2000 auto = everything lazy=20 mans camera that I use for most everything now. I'm not familiar with = the film=20 you mentioned. I still long for the days of Panotomic X developed in = Rodinol.=20 I'm still a B&W person at heart. Hope to hear from you again.  = Ron=20
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From:=20 Jc0bones@aol.com=20
Sent: Saturday, October 20, = 2001 8:41=20 PM
Subject: [KOML] Medium Format = Film=20 Processing and Printing

Dear Dave; = Thanks for=20 your observation to which I whole heartedly agree. I had started hand=20 processing Verichrome Ortho in my bathroom when I was 12 Y.O. Contact = printed=20 the 6x7 negatives with a desk lamp and caught the bug. 20 years later = set up a=20 lab in a 3x4 closet in a N.Y.C. apartment using a Spiritone enlarger = and did=20 some good work except for suffocating a bit. 10 years after that, had = a decent=20 darkroom, small bedroom size with water.=20
      Retired in Florida I have been = totally=20 dissatisfied with the quality of work done by the local Publix, = Eckert, etc. I=20 should say that the local Wal-Mart, 1 Hour, using Fuji equipment, does = the=20 best so far. (The send-away at the same  Wal-Mart has ruined 2 = rolls of=20 film already   -135.) I have found several 'Pro' labs in the = south=20 Florida area and will let you know how the work turns out. Around = Naples, no=20 B+W services available. Probably TC400N processing using C-41, but = never tried=20 it yet. Just started using the K.O. 6x7 format again and anxiously = await the=20 results using the 90mm and 180mm.
Jean,=20 =            Naples,= =20 Florida ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C159FB.1B45B0E0-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Oct 21 22:55:38 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 22:55:38 +0100 Subject: [KOML] flatbed scanners In-Reply-To: <3BD1E293.D48E6BEC@bellatlantic.net> References: <3BD1E293.D48E6BEC@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: At 4:46 pm -0400 20/10/01, P. RENNER wrote: >I know this is not about infrared but what the heck... I am looking for >a flatbed scanner >that can scan 35mm , 120 & 4x5 . any recommendations ? I have heard that >the microtek 4 is good for the larger negs >- however the 35mm >negs are not that great . > >thanks for any info , >chip Well it's not about KO kit either! The Microtek Scanmaker 4 scanner is a great piece of kit - I have one here. Have never tried it with 35mm but it is probably better than most flat bed scanners at this job. There is an under the glass scanning tray for trannies and negs that works very well. It will handle 8 x 10 trannies also! Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Oct 23 01:17:15 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:17:15 EDT Subject: [KOML] KONI SPORTS FINDER QUESTION Message-ID: <143.372d358.2906110b@aol.com> Hello, I recently purchased a sports finder for 90-135-180mm lens. The front end of the lower bracket is bent about 1/4" - 5/16" lower than the rear [ looking ] end. Is this normal? it appears to be damaged. The front frames bend about 10 degrees forward from perpendicular. thanks From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Oct 23 01:44:57 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:44:57 +0100 Subject: [KOML] KONI SPORTS FINDER QUESTION In-Reply-To: <143.372d358.2906110b@aol.com> References: <143.372d358.2906110b@aol.com> Message-ID: At 8:17 pm -0400 22/10/01, GENDERWARS3@aol.com wrote: >Hello, > I recently purchased a sports finder for 90-135-180mm lens. The front end >of the lower bracket is bent about 1/4" - 5/16" lower than the rear [ >looking ] end. > Is this normal? it appears to be damaged. The front frames bend about 10 >degrees forward from perpendicular. > >thanks Hello, The finder is indeed damaged - the bracket holding the front and rear frames should be straight. Best to return it or ask for a partial refund and see if you can straighten it. Depends on how far out of true it is - it may break if you try to straighten it..... Best of luck, Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Oct 24 13:19:11 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:19:11 -0400 Subject: [KOML] Post Offices considering "Irradiation" to counter anthrax Message-ID: <3BD6797F.25182.173B203@localhost> If our post offices start irradiating mail, our undeveloped film will be ruined. You may want to contact your political representatives about this. tOM Trottier ------------------- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ottawa-photo-clubs tOM A. Trottier, ICQ:57647974 http://abacurial.com 758 Albert St, Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 +1 613 860-6633 fax:231-6115 N45.412 W75.714 To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I confess, absurd in the highest degree. --Charles Darwin From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Nov 17 15:00:23 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:00:23 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower Message-ID: How many of you will be set up to take photos of the Leonid Meteor shower? Stayed up last night but the whole area of SW England was shrouded by cloud throughout the night. Still overcast today so am not holding up much hope for tomorrow before dawn..... There are fairly reliable predictions that meteor shower at its peak may produce thousands of meteors per hour. The Royal Observatory in Greenwich, England has a useful page on the showers: http://www.rog.nmm.ac.uk/leaflets/solar_system/leonids/2001/index.html NASA also has a section of its web site devoted to the Leonids - a result of the close path of the Temple-Tuttle comet to Earth. This will probably be more useful to you if you are based in the US. The Earths orbit passes close to the comet's orbit each year in November and during this time the Earth collides with particles of cometary debris which follow the comet's orbit. Predictions are for as many as 15000 meteors per hour this year! Some chaps recently came up with a way of predicting the meteor showers fairly accurately so it WILL be worth popping your head out of the window if nothing else..... -- All the best, Clive http://www.cocam.co.uk Photographic Services, Filters and Equipment, Infrared FAQ http://www.f32.net Large Format Travel and Stock Photography From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Nov 17 18:49:25 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 13:49:25 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower References: Message-ID: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> Clive, Here in the Washington DC area, the weather will be absolutely clear and predictions are that this will be spectacular! I may drive out to the rural area west of here and rent a motel room so I can get quick access to an area without city lights. Not sure if I can shoot with my favorite film (and what I have on hand) Fujichrome 100. I'll have to experiment with exposure times... Should be quite a sight though (if I don't oversleep). Peak viewing time should be between 3 and 5 AM Eastern... Jim ____________________________________________________________________ Jim Thomas Debbie Thomas Rockville, Maryland USA e-mail: jwthomas@erols.com webpage: http://geocities.com/novartelma/ "That's all!" --Annette Hanshaw ____________________________________________________________________ From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Nov 17 21:51:36 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jack Fallon) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:51:36 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower References: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> Message-ID: <002401c16fb2$087f3220$6d0501cf@smilinjack> TOO BAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE WE ALWAYS HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE SKY. IF I REACH UP AND CATCH ONE OF THE NICER METEORS I WILL U.P.S. IT TO YOU. SMILINJACK @TDS.NET ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower > Clive, > > Here in the Washington DC area, the weather will be absolutely clear and > predictions are that this will be spectacular! I may drive out to the > rural area west of here and rent a motel room so I can get quick access > to an area without city lights. Not sure if I can shoot with my > favorite film (and what I have on hand) Fujichrome 100. I'll have to > experiment with exposure times... Should be quite a sight though (if I > don't oversleep). Peak viewing time should be between 3 and 5 AM > Eastern... > > Jim > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Jim Thomas > Debbie Thomas > Rockville, Maryland > USA > > e-mail: jwthomas@erols.com > > webpage: http://geocities.com/novartelma/ > > > "That's all!" > --Annette Hanshaw > ____________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Nov 18 12:32:11 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:32:11 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower In-Reply-To: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> References: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> Message-ID: At 1:49 pm -0500 17/11/01, Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas wrote: >Clive, > >Here in the Washington DC area, the weather will be absolutely clear and >predictions are that this will be spectacular! I may drive out to the >rural area west of here and rent a motel room so I can get quick access >to an area without city lights. Not sure if I can shoot with my >favorite film (and what I have on hand) Fujichrome 100. I'll have to >experiment with exposure times... Should be quite a sight though (if I >don't oversleep). Peak viewing time should be between 3 and 5 AM >Eastern... > >Jim Jim, You people in the US are so lucky! We had 100% cloud cover here over the last two days and it is still overcast now. Didn't even get to see a faint meteor, let alone photograph a shower. So how was it? Did you get any good shots? Best film speed would probably have been around 400 or 800 ASA. I was going to push some B&W film to get the speed had everything worked out. The meteors are probably the same brightness as the brightest stars but move pretty fast so you need a fairly fast film with the lens wide open. Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Nov 18 12:33:40 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:33:40 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower In-Reply-To: <002401c16fb2$087f3220$6d0501cf@smilinjack> References: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> <002401c16fb2$087f3220$6d0501cf@smilinjack> Message-ID: >TOO BAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE WE ALWAYS >HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE SKY. IF I REACH UP AND CATCH ONE >OF THE NICER METEORS I WILL U.P.S. IT TO YOU. SMILINJACK @TDS.NET Hey Jack, Did you reach up and grab something with the camera? Watching the post box ;-) Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Nov 18 14:15:02 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jack Fallon) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:15:02 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower References: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> <002401c16fb2$087f3220$6d0501cf@smilinjack> Message-ID: <000901c1703b$6afc8540$595a89d0@smilinjack> Clive...I watched at 4:00am EST and it was spectacular. Better than I expected. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Clive Warren To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower > >TOO BAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE WE ALWAYS > >HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE SKY. IF I REACH UP AND CATCH ONE > >OF THE NICER METEORS I WILL U.P.S. IT TO YOU. SMILINJACK @TDS.NET > > Hey Jack, > > Did you reach up and grab something with the camera? > > Watching the post box ;-) > > Cheers, > Clive > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Nov 18 14:35:14 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:35:14 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower References: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> <002401c16fb2$087f3220$6d0501cf@smilinjack> <000901c1703b$6afc8540$595a89d0@smilinjack> Message-ID: <3BF7C722.991DD6CE@erols.com> Clive, We got socked in by fog! ARGHH... Tried first at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. No luck, drove all the way back down through Maryland into Virginia and couldn't even see a STAR. The fog was so thick at times that I could barely drive. I've been driving all night now with nothing to show for it. Well, I hope someone got to see the meteor shower because I completely missed it! Jim From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Nov 18 18:11:03 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jack Fallon) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:11:03 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower References: <3BF6B135.3A17B502@erols.com> <002401c16fb2$087f3220$6d0501cf@smilinjack> <000901c1703b$6afc8540$595a89d0@smilinjack> <3BF7C722.991DD6CE@erols.com> Message-ID: <002501c1705c$63781200$e151aad0@smilinjack> Jim..Sorry to hear your sad story..I'm serious..it was just too unbelievable up here in the mountains of New Hampshire. I set the clock for 4:00am est. Went out on my deck and sat there in awe. There was a continuous show to my southeast until my neck got stiff from looking up. It was something I will never forget. An eclipse is one thing..but this was spectacular. Sorry you missed it. smilinjack@tds.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower > > Clive, > > We got socked in by fog! ARGHH... Tried first at Gettysburg, > Pennsylvania. No luck, drove all the way back down through Maryland > into Virginia and couldn't even see a STAR. The fog was so thick at > times that I could barely drive. I've been driving all night now with > nothing to show for it. Well, I hope someone got to see the meteor > shower because I completely missed it! > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Nov 18 20:49:41 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Paul R.) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:49:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011118204941.18208.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1498689565-1006116581=:17822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Clive, Jim & Debbie and all, It was a great show in Los Angeles. Even fairly close in to the city, and with a bit of vapor in the air, I was able to see several bright streaks per minute between about 1:30 and 2:30 am Pacific time, with a few clusters of 4 or 5 in as many seconds. I've seen similar sights only on film ("Deep Impact"? "Independence Day"?). I did not have time this go-round to set up for any photos, but it would have been interesting to try some color film. The brighter streaks looked distinctly green to my eye. I would like to know whether that translates to color film. Like Clive, I'll be watching for any reports of successful photography (and hopefully some scans!). Regards to all, -Paul Reese Clive Warren wrote: >TOO BAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE WE ALWAYS >HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE SKY. IF I REACH UP AND CATCH ONE >OF THE NICER METEORS I WILL U.P.S. IT TO YOU. SMILINJACK @TDS.NET Hey Jack, Did you reach up and grab something with the camera? Watching the post box ;-) Cheers, Clive _______________________________________________ KOML mailing list KOML@koni-omega.org http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals. --0-1498689565-1006116581=:17822 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hello Clive, Jim & Debbie and all,

It was a great show in Los Angeles.  Even fairly close in to the city, and with a bit of vapor in the air, I was able to see several bright streaks per minute between about 1:30 and 2:30 am Pacific time, with a few clusters of 4 or 5 in as many seconds.  I've seen similar sights only on film ("Deep Impact"?  "Independence Day"?).

I did not have time this go-round to set up for any photos, but it would have been interesting to try some color film.  The brighter streaks looked distinctly green to my eye.  I would like to know whether that translates to color film.

Like Clive, I'll be watching for any reports of successful photography (and hopefully some scans!).

Regards to all,

-Paul Reese

 

  Clive Warren <cocam@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:

>TOO BAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE WE ALWAYS
>HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE SKY. IF I REACH UP AND CATCH ONE
>OF THE NICER METEORS I WILL U.P.S. IT TO YOU. SMILINJACK @TDS.NET

Hey Jack,

Did you reach up and grab something with the camera?

Watching the post box ;-)

Cheers,
Clive

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Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals. --0-1498689565-1006116581=:17822-- From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Nov 20 16:04:31 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:04:31 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower In-Reply-To: <3BF7C722.991DD6CE@erols.com> Message-ID: <3BFA38BF.9520.118DC4@localhost> The Canadian Meteorological service provides transparency & cloud maps of North America, and a local amateur astronomer has written a script to summarise them. Check out http://www.cleardarksky.com/csk/ It should save some gas next time you want to photograph the nite skies. Tom PS - it was great near Ottawa! On Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 9:35, Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas wrote re "Re: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower" saying: > > Clive, > > We got socked in by fog! ARGHH... Tried first at Gettysburg, > Pennsylvania. No luck, drove all the way back down through Maryland > into Virginia and couldn't even see a STAR. The fog was so thick at > times that I could barely drive. I've been driving all night now with > nothing to show for it. Well, I hope someone got to see the meteor > shower because I completely missed it! > > Jim ------- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur ----------------- ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_<, 758 Albert St., Ottawa Ontario Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*) ICQ:57647974 Tom@Abacurial.com N45.412 W75.714 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Nov 22 23:46:13 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:46:13 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower In-Reply-To: <3BFA38BF.9520.118DC4@localhost> References: <3BFA38BF.9520.118DC4@localhost> Message-ID: At 11:04 am -0500 20/11/01, Tom@Abacurial.com wrote: >The Canadian Meteorological service provides transparency & cloud >maps of North America, and a local amateur astronomer has written a >script to summarise them. > >Check out http://www.cleardarksky.com/csk/ > >It should save some gas next time you want to photograph the nite >skies. > >Tom Tom, Thanks for that URL - that is a great resource! We don't need one for the UK as it is always covered in cloud and mist ;-) Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Fri Nov 23 07:28:30 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:28:30 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower In-Reply-To: References: <3BFA38BF.9520.118DC4@localhost> Message-ID: <3BFDB44E.30200.DAC34DE@localhost> On Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 23:46, Clive Warren wrote re "Re: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower" saying: > At 11:04 am -0500 20/11/01, Tom@Abacurial.com wrote: > >The Canadian Meteorological service provides transparency & cloud > >maps of North America, and a local amateur astronomer has written a > >script to summarise them. > > > >Check out http://www.cleardarksky.com/csk/ > > > >It should save some gas next time you want to photograph the nite > >skies. > > > >Tom > > Tom, > > Thanks for that URL - that is a great resource! We don't need one > for the UK as it is always covered in cloud and mist ;-) Hope it doesn't dampen your enthusiasm. Makes for more "atmospheric" landscapes. Tom ------- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur ----------------- ,__@ Tom A. Trottier +1 613 860-6633 fax:231- 6115 _-\_<, 758 Albert St., Ottawa Ontario Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*) ICQ:57647974 Tom@Abacurial.com N45.412 W75.714 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laws are the spider's webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. --Solon, statesman (c.638-c558 BCE) "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Nov 24 13:54:20 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:54:20 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Leonid Meteor Shower In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 3:00 pm +0000 17/11/01, Clive Warren wrote: >How many of you will be set up to take photos of the Leonid Meteor shower? So, did anyone manage to take any photos of the meteor shower? I don't care if you didn't use your KO kit! Feel somewhat impoverished here and a little disappointed that in the UK we didn't even get to see them..... Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Sun Nov 25 15:46:55 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:46:55 -0600 Subject: [KOML] rondav1@earthlink.net Message-ID: <001401c175c8$6e01b840$d993aec7@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C17596.1E54C260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please remove me from the list. thanks David R. Heald=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C17596.1E54C260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C17596.1E54C260-- From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Nov 28 05:43:55 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:43:55 EST Subject: [KOML] AUTO UP ATTACHMENTS Message-ID: <158.4c3d4b0.2935d39b@aol.com> I have recently obtained the auto up/ close up attachments. The #2 [ closest focus] is in two peices. the close up lens is detached from the metal frame that holds the optics that cover the rangefinder/viewer. it appears to have been held in the frame with glue. Did this auto up have a jam nut type retaining ring to hold the lens in the frame????? The other close up attachment is held on with a jam nut type ring and turns smoothly for screwing into the camera lens. anyone have experience with these attachments???????????/ From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Nov 28 09:49:54 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:49:54 +0000 Subject: [KOML] AUTO UP ATTACHMENTS In-Reply-To: <158.4c3d4b0.2935d39b@aol.com> References: <158.4c3d4b0.2935d39b@aol.com> Message-ID: At 12:43 AM -0500 28/11/01, GENDERWARS3@aol.com wrote: > >I have recently obtained the auto up/ close up attachments. > >The #2 [ closest focus] is in two peices. the close up lens is detached from >the metal frame that holds the optics that cover the rangefinder/viewer. it >appears to have been held in the frame with glue. Did this auto up have a >jam nut type retaining ring to hold the lens in the frame????? > >The other close up attachment is held on with a jam nut type ring and turns >smoothly for screwing into the camera lens. > >anyone have experience with these attachments???????????/ Hello, I have both the auto-up attachments but have not even looked at them for a long time! Tend to use either a 2x3 Crown Graphic or a large format camera with a roll film back for 6x7 close photography. From memory the two attachments are very similar and the supplementary lenses should be held captive in the frame in a similar fashion. The #2 that you have seems to be in a sorry state. The auto-ups are not that common so you may have to bite the bullet on this one and perhaps ask for a partial refund on the cost of the #2. The auto-ups look pretty strange and add another dimension to the K-O when fitted. Let us know how you get with using them. Someone sent me a Japanese instruction sheet for using the auto-ups which helped a bit. There is a thread on using the auto-ups in the archive at http://www.koniomega.org Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Dec 5 06:51:25 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (gabe) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 06:51:25 GMT Subject: [KOML] help w/ a 120 back Message-ID: <20011205065125.3495.qmail@aux153.plano.net> Hi folks! Just got a sweet system w/ 3 lenses and two backs in original case w/brochure & manual! I am so stoked! Only problems were vertical alignment (which I fixed as described in an archive on Rob Monaghan's excellent page), and spacing on one of the backs. I have attempted to dissassemble the back, but have not been able to take the handle off the film advance. I tried a typical black jewelry screwdriver which twisted, and then got a hardened steel set which shattered. Those tiny screws are really on there. Anyone got any ideas? I thought maybe I'd take it to a machinist or something. Curiosly, I notice that the knob would stick out farther each stroke, as it is supposed to, but still the spacing is bad. The one difference I noticed between the backs was that the one with incorrect spacing starts off with the knob retracted about 1/8" closer to the back than the knob on the back which works correctly. If this is something to consider once I get the thing apart I'd appreciate a heads up on that too. Thanks in advance, Gabriel Regalbuto From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Dec 5 15:25:25 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Clive Warren) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:25:25 +0000 Subject: [KOML] help w/ a 120 back In-Reply-To: <20011205065125.3495.qmail@aux153.plano.net> References: <20011205065125.3495.qmail@aux153.plano.net> Message-ID: At 6:51 AM +0000 5/12/01, gabe wrote: > >Hi folks! > >Just got a sweet system w/ 3 lenses and two backs in original case >w/brochure & manual! I am so stoked! Only problems were vertical >alignment (which I fixed as described in an archive on Rob Monaghan's >excellent page), and spacing on one of the backs. I have attempted to >dissassemble the back, but have not been able to take the handle off the >film advance. I tried a typical black jewelry screwdriver which twisted, >and then got a hardened steel set which shattered. Those tiny screws are >really on there. Anyone got any ideas? I thought maybe I'd take it to a >machinist or something. > >Curiosly, I notice that the knob would stick out farther each stroke, as it >is supposed to, but still the spacing is bad. The one difference I noticed >between the backs was that the one with incorrect spacing starts off with >the knob retracted about 1/8" closer to the back than the knob on the back >which works correctly. If this is something to consider once I get the >thing apart I'd appreciate a heads up on that too. > >Thanks in advance, > >Gabriel Regalbuto Hello Gabriel, Sounds as though you have a good system there. There are two routes to taking off the handle - you can try to take off the black bakelite (plastic?) part alone or together with the right angled bracket that secures it to the plunger. The back handle is actually glued to the right angled bracket in addition to the screws that hold it. Inevitably the glue seeps around the screws and can make removal VERY difficult. The screws alone are not man enough for the job of holding the handle in place so the handle will have to be re-glued if you remove it. The right angled bracket is only slightly easier to remove because of accessibility to the screws using a screwdriver small enough to gain access. The first thing to remove is the captive nuts on the back of the screws before trying to remove them. Trying to unscrew the retaining screws without removing the captive nuts will break or bend most screwdrivers. Count on a few broken screwdrivers anyway as these screws are not easy to remove! As for the spacing - could be a worn cam. When you get the back apart this will become obvious. The only real cure is a replacement or re-engineered cam - or put up with the poor spacing! Hope this helps. Cheers, Clive From koml@koni-omega.org Thu Nov 29 05:40:28 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:40:28 EST Subject: [KOML] Re: KOML digest, Vol 1 #45 - 2 msgs Message-ID: <11f.807941a.2937244c@aol.com> OK, THANKS, BILL From koml@koni-omega.org Mon Dec 17 11:49:41 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 05:49:41 -0600 Subject: [KOML] Re: KOML digest, Vol 1 #45 - 2 msgs References: <11f.807941a.2937244c@aol.com> Message-ID: <000a01c186f0$ea7cb940$7795aec7@oemcomputer> you're welcome ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:40 PM Subject: [KOML] Re: KOML digest, Vol 1 #45 - 2 msgs > OK, > THANKS, > BILL > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Dec 19 23:07:39 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:07:39 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Serial Numbers Message-ID: <3C211DBB.10187F1C@erols.com> Can anyone tell me the significance of the serial number range as listed on Peter Lanczak's website at http://www.uuhome.de/Peter.Lanczak/koni2.htm Are these the first and last KNOWN serial numbers from submitted examples, or are these the actual first and last serial numbers produced? The reason I ask is that I've just acquired what appears to be the first made of a particular model, as listed on this site. I think Peter Lanczak is here from time to time, so maybe he could tell me? Thanks very much! Still in search of a better Omega Rapid system, piece by piece! Jim Thomas ____________________________________________________________________ Jim Thomas Debbie Thomas Rockville, Maryland USA e-mail: jwthomas@erols.com webpage: http://geocities.com/novartelma/ "That's all!" --Annette Hanshaw ____________________________________________________________________ From koml@koni-omega.org Wed Dec 19 23:40:15 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jack Fallon) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:40:15 -0500 Subject: [KOML] Serial Numbers References: <3C211DBB.10187F1C@erols.com> Message-ID: <000701c188e6$83994480$535a89d0@smilinjack> JIM THOMAS ... TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IN KONI-OMEGA ITEMS. I HAVE SOME EXTRA GOODIES THAT I AM NOT USING. smilinjack@tds.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Thomas / Debbie Thomas To: Koni-Omega List Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: [KOML] Serial Numbers > Can anyone tell me the significance of the serial number range as listed > on Peter Lanczak's website at > > http://www.uuhome.de/Peter.Lanczak/koni2.htm > > Are these the first and last KNOWN serial numbers from submitted > examples, or are these the actual first and last serial numbers > produced? > > The reason I ask is that I've just acquired what appears to be the first > made of a particular model, as listed on this site. I think Peter > Lanczak is here from time to time, so maybe he could tell me? > > Thanks very much! Still in search of a better Omega Rapid system, piece > by piece! > > Jim Thomas > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Jim Thomas > Debbie Thomas > Rockville, Maryland > USA > > e-mail: jwthomas@erols.com > > webpage: http://geocities.com/novartelma/ > > > "That's all!" > --Annette Hanshaw > ____________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 01:51:37 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:51:37 EST Subject: [KOML] (no subject) Message-ID: <10e.9a6dbc5.29554129@aol.com> --part1_10e.9a6dbc5.29554129_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks. --part1_10e.9a6dbc5.29554129_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks. --part1_10e.9a6dbc5.29554129_boundary-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 02:53:51 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (KOML Admin) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:53:51 +0000 Subject: [KOML] Happy Holidays and Message Boards In-Reply-To: <10e.9a6dbc5.29554129@aol.com> References: <10e.9a6dbc5.29554129@aol.com> Message-ID: At 8:51 pm -0500 21/12/01, Tim6609@aol.com wrote: >How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks. Tim, You must be psychic! Have recently set up a Discussion Forum on the koniomega web site, however have been waiting for a couple of things to happen before making it public. One of them is for traffic to increase here a bit first, the second is to complete the first version of the web site as it is currently rather light on content apart from the mailing list archives. So, you can post here as much as you want, however it may be a while yet before the board goes live. Happy holidays to everyone on the list and hope you have a merry and prosperous New Year. From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 03:04:59 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Daniel L. Schmutter/Beth R. Stearns) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:04:59 -0500 Subject: [KOML] (no subject) References: <10e.9a6dbc5.29554129@aol.com> Message-ID: <3C23F852.361A865B@bellatlantic.net> Uh. I think you just did. ;-) Tim6609@aol.com wrote: > How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks. From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 03:18:12 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:18:12 EST Subject: [KOML] (no subject) Message-ID: --part1_bb.18674bd8.29555574_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm totally confused. How do I post comments, question, answers on the Koni-Omega mailing list archive? I've subscribed, and was given this koml@koni-omega.org address address, but how do I post? Thanks, Tim > Uh. I think you just did. ;-) > > Tim6609@aol.com wrote: > > > --part1_bb.18674bd8.29555574_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm totally confused. How do I post comments, question, answers on the Koni-Omega mailing list archive? I've subscribed, and was given this koml@koni-omega.org address address, but how do I post?  Thanks, Tim




Uh.  I think you just did.  ;-)

Tim6609@aol.com wrote:

> How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks.


 --part1_bb.18674bd8.29555574_boundary-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 03:23:17 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:23:17 EST Subject: [KOML] ??? Message-ID: --part1_bb.18674bd9.295556a5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm totally confused. How do I post comments, question, answers on the=20 Koni-Omega mailing list archive? I've subscribed, and was given this=20 koml@koni-omega.org address address, but how do I post? =A0Thanks, Tim > Uh. =A0I think you just did. =A0;-)=20 >=20 > Tim6609@aol.com wrote:=20 >=20 > > --part1_bb.18674bd9.295556a5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm totally confused. How= do I post comments, question, answers on the Koni-Omega mailing list archiv= e? I've subscribed, and was given this koml@koni-omega.org address address,=20= but how do I post? =A0Thanks, Tim



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Tim6609@aol.com wrote:=20

> How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks.

--part1_bb.18674bd9.295556a5_boundary-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 03:26:13 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (koml@koni-omega.org) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:26:13 EST Subject: [KOML] ??? Message-ID: <11b.8f1b4d6.29555755@aol.com> --part1_11b.8f1b4d6.29555755_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This just bounced back to me with no answer. Is there a human there, or is a machine acting up? > > I'm totally confused. How do I post comments, question, answers on the > Koni-Omega mailing list archive? I've subscribed, and was given this > koml@koni-omega.org address address, but how do I post? Thanks, Tim > > > > > >> Uh. I think you just did. ;-) >> >> Tim6609@aol.com wrote: >> >> > > > > --part1_11b.8f1b4d6.29555755_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This just bounced back to me with no answer. Is there a human there, or is a machine acting up?


I'm totally confused. How do I post comments, question, answers on the Koni-Omega mailing list archive? I've subscribed, and was given this koml@koni-omega.org address address, but how do I post?  Thanks, Tim




Uh.  I think you just did.  ;-)

Tim6609@aol.com wrote:

> How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks.





 --part1_11b.8f1b4d6.29555755_boundary-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 03:31:23 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (pat) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:31:23 -0500 Subject: [KOML] ??? References: Message-ID: <3C23FE8B.4B5666BB@bellatlantic.net> just ask a question or make a statement & all the people on the list get a copy of your e-mail.-then check your mail to see if anyone answers . chip From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 14:46:41 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 08:46:41 -0600 Subject: [KOML] (no subject) References: <10e.9a6dbc5.29554129@aol.com> Message-ID: <002901c18af7$78819d00$b096aec7@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C18AC5.2D37B320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I dont even know how to get off this damn thing ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tim6609@aol.com=20 To: Koml@koni-omega.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: [KOML] (no subject) How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C18AC5.2D37B320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I dont even = know how to get=20 off this damn thing
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tim6609@aol.com=20
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 = 7:51=20 PM
Subject: [KOML] (no = subject)

How do I go = about=20 posting to the Koni message board? Thanks.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C18AC5.2D37B320-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 14:47:30 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 08:47:30 -0600 Subject: [KOML] ??? References: <11b.8f1b4d6.29555755@aol.com> Message-ID: <004201c18af7$95a41c00$b096aec7@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C18AC5.4A5A3220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm a machine ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tim6609@aol.com=20 To: koml@koni-omega.org=20 Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] ??? This just bounced back to me with no answer. Is there a human there, = or is a machine acting up?=20 I'm totally confused. How do I post comments, question, answers on = the Koni-Omega mailing list archive? I've subscribed, and was given this = koml@koni-omega.org address address, but how do I post? Thanks, Tim=20 Uh. I think you just did. ;-)=20 Tim6609@aol.com wrote:=20 > How do I go about posting to the Koni message board? Thanks. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C18AC5.4A5A3220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm a=20 machine
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tim6609@aol.com=20
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 = 9:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: [KOML] ???

This just = bounced back=20 to me with no answer. Is there a human there, or is a machine acting = up?=20


I'm totally confused. How do I post comments, = question,=20 answers on the Koni-Omega mailing list archive? I've subscribed, and = was=20 given this koml@koni-omega.org=20 address address, but how do I post?  Thanks, Tim =




Uh.  I think you just did.  ;-)=20

Tim6609@aol.com wrote:

> How do I go about = posting to=20 the Koni message board? = Thanks.




 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C18AC5.4A5A3220-- From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 14:48:06 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (David Heald) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 08:48:06 -0600 Subject: [KOML] ??? References: <3C23FE8B.4B5666BB@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <004901c18af7$ab595c40$b096aec7@oemcomputer> How do you know what your password is? ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [KOML] ??? > just ask a question or make a statement & all the people on the list get > a copy of your e-mail.-then check your mail to see if anyone answers . > chip > > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml > From koml@koni-omega.org Sat Dec 22 15:42:09 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (KOML Admin) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 15:42:09 +0000 Subject: [KOML] List Server Housekeeping Message-ID: Please accept my apologies for the spurious mails from various people. I have removed David Heald from the list and he is not welcome back! There is a minimal etiquette required for any list membership. We are fairly easygoing here but there are limits. As most of you are probably aware, all of the URLs and EMail addresses for managing your subscriptions are in the headers of each and every EMail that is sent out by the list. Passwords are selected by yourselves when subscribing and these can be emailed back to you on request if you have either mislaid or forgotten them. Any questions - please ask the KOML admin rather than posting admin requests to the list and clogging up people's mail boxes. All the best, KOML Admin KOMLadmin@koni-omega.org From koml@koni-omega.org Tue Nov 20 00:07:16 2001 From: koml@koni-omega.org (Jack Fallon) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:07:16 -0800 Subject: [KOML] Hand holding References: <1ADA16A4FECB094695DE73172A730E8EF5B7@tpshouex1.toromontprocess.com> Message-ID: <000501c17157$50c0f180$7fb3fea9@watavue> It all depends on how smooth you breathe, how steady your hand is, what speed film, and what your subject is, how you want your subject to appear. Speed is all a matter of preference. What size brush does an artist use?? Consider yourself as an artist when you use a Koni!!! Smilinjack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Lee Spinnenweber" To: "KOML mailing list (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:14 PM Subject: [KOML] Hand holding > Just out of curiosity, how many of you hand hold your Koni and at what > shutter speed do you begin to mess about with a cable release? 1/125? 1/60? > 1/30th. > > I hardly ever use a cable release. Well, I've had to a couple of times...and > I should have a couple of times.... > > Barbara > > _______________________________________________ > KOML mailing list > KOML@koni-omega.org > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/koml