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</head><BODY BGCOLOR="white" ><div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;">*smile*. I have to say that I'm going to miss Pete now that we've sold the last donkey. He's an interesting person and quite the story teller.</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;">We didn't worry as much about founder as the fact that anything extra makes the hooves grow at an accelerated rate, so more frequent trimming was required to maintain hoof health.  I also can't stand to see donkeys that start getting those fat deposits along their necks and spines. </SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;">I still miss our donkeys, though. Leading Arwen to the trailer on her way to her new home was a real tear jerker. If we ever get out of this drought, I'll probably be looking for another one!</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;">Linda<br /><br /></span></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> Have to keep rubbing in what a good farrier you have huh?  ;-)  I</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> still am jealous as all get out.... I just got a new farrier, and</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> hope things will be OK! </I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> But ditto to what robin is saying Donkeys, specifically minis and</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> smaller ones are VERY prone to founder... so too much of anything</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> is a concern... Most do great on next to nothing!  We feed alfalfa</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> also, so I understand your worry.... I think a creep type set up to</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> keep the donkey out of the good stuff is a good plan</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> -----Original Message-----</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> From: Linda <patchworkfibers@alltel.net></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> To: Robin Lynde <rlynde@onramp113.org> Jacob-list@jacobsheep.com</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:14 am</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] corn gluten/ration</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> My experience, and the experience of our farrier (Pete Ramey</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> <a href="http://www.hoofrehab.com/">http://www.hoofrehab.com/</a>) is that alfalfa and grain are hell on a</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> donkey's feet. We did just sell our last donkey last month (we had</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> five at one time). I fed the sheep in an area with a creep gate and</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> kept the nutritional tubs in there, away from the donkeys. The</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> donkeys did vary as to how grain would affect hoof growth, but you</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> sure see the difference on all of them when they had access to</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> alfalfa or grain.</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> The hay in our area is of fairly good quality, although we don't</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> have access to alfalfa. I do feed alfalfa pellets and will be</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> adding grain soon. I feed alfalfa pellets and grain in order to</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> stretch our hay supply, which can be iffy. This year, it looks like</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> we have plenty, but if the drought continues into spring, we may</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> end up short.</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>> Linda</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:navy;"><I>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> I wouldn't feed something with questionable copper content no</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> matter how good a deal it seems. Also, is this because hay in your</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> area isn't of good quality? I feed hardly feed grain at all and my</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> sheep are fat on alfalfa. I do buy a little bit of grain but I use</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> if sparingly. During lambing season I mix a medium size bucket of</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> half COB and half alfalfa pellets (cheaper) and I spread that out</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> in all the feeders. But this is one bucket for 50-60 sheep and</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> goats so you know that they're all getting only a very small</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> amount. This is one way I have of checking to see who might not be</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> feeling good (ready to lamb).</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> Speaking of alfalfa, I just got a donkey and now I'm realizing</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> that</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> since I'll be feeding alfalfa all winter, the donkey will be</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> getting that too unless I separate her. I didn't want to make life</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> more complicated with this addition. Any advice from donkey</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> owners?</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> Robin Lynde</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> Meridian Jacobs</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> Vacaville, CA</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:maroon;"><I>>> www.meridianjacobs.com</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> ----- Original Message -----</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> From: Linda</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> To: Jacob-list@jacobsheep.com</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:12 AM</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> Subject: [Jacob-list] corn gluten/ration</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> Does anyone have any experience/information with feeding corn</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> gluten? Our local hay supplier uses it for his cattle during the</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> winter. It's 1/2 the price of whole corn.</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> From what I've been able to garner from the web, it wouldn't be</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> recommended as the complete diet. Also the copper content can be</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> variable. I didn't see the bag it came in, so didn't get a</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> chance</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> to read the label.</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> This year I'm going back to mixing my own feed ration. I did it</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> for about 8 years, but went to premixes when I got more sheep.</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> The sheep did very well on my mix. I liked the Blue Seal sheep</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> feed, but we just lost the Blue Seal dealer that was 35 miles</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> away in SC. The next closest is 65 miles in NC and the cost in</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> time and gas just doesn't make sense to me.</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> My sheep mix consists of whole corn, whole oats, soybean meal,</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> wheat bran, and livestock molasses. I'd appreciate hearing from</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> others that mix their own feeds and what home made mixes have</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> worked for you.</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> Thank you,</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>> Linda</I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="font-size:11pt;color:purple;"><I>>>></I></SPAN></div>
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