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<DIV>Linda </DIV>
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<DIV>The sad part is he is. But my question is where do they get this
opinion? It is not in the JSBA or JSC rule books.</DIV>
<DIV>I know some prefer markings some don't but it is acceptable trait. I
wanted to find out who really feels this way in our association. </DIV>
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<DIV>Peggy</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:patchworkfibers@alltel.net
href="mailto:patchworkfibers@alltel.net">Linda</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:messen@socket.net
href="mailto:messen@socket.net">Mark Essen</A> ; <A
title=mailto:jacob-list@jacobsheep.com
href="mailto:jacob-list@jacobsheep.com">jacob-list</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:52
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Jacob-list] Opinion
regarding "true Jacob"</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Very well said, Mark.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Peggy, I find it very disturbing that a
Jacob breeder would say such a thing. I would have to think that it was
not a breeder that belonged to either JSBA or JSC and certainly not one that
ever registered.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Linda<BR> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=p style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><A
title=http://www.patchworkfibers.com/
href="http://www.patchworkfibers.com"><B>www.patchworkfibers.com</B></A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=p style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><B>Registered Jacob
Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn</B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> Are we competitive or
cynical? I prefer to think that we are</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> critical.
Anytime we look at prospective new flock members we</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> become very
critical. My picture perfect Jacob has four bold</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> symmetric horns with
nice eye and muzzle patches to match the nice</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> knee patches and
random black spots all over the rest of the white</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> petite body. I
will not put a two horn or white legged Jacobs into</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> my flock. But,
this is just a critical preference of what I want</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> in my flock. To
claim that somebody else's sheep are impure or</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> second class Jacobs
for these reasons would just simply be wrong. </I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> People used to say the
same things about red Angus and Holsteins. </I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> The other thing that
we should all strive for (have to keep</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> reminding myself of
this) is we have to be diplomatic. My critical</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> comments should never
be spoken is such a way that they be taken as</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> an insult. We
also have to be thick skinned enough to forgive or</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><I>> ignore those that fail
the diplomacy test.</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> ----- Original
Message -----</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> From: Marguerite
Van Beek</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> To:
jacob-list</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Sent: Tuesday,
June 03, 2008 8:54 AM</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Subject:
[Jacob-list] Opinion regarding "true Jacob"</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>></I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>></I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> To all Jacob
Breeders,.</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>></I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Do any of you
think that a Jacob that does not have leg markings</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> is not a "true
Jacob". That they are a crossbred. At the MSWF a</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Jacob breeder
approached some people that we looking and admiring</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> our flock can up
to them started a conversation and stated that</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> our Jacobs are
not "true Jacobs" because we have some that don't</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> have leg
markings. I guess the gentlemen didn't know that my</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> daughter was
standing right there when he said it.</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Are we as a
group becoming so critical in what consider a "true</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Jacob" should
be? I have full siblings in my flock where one has</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> leg marking and
another does not. So, the one without is not a</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> true Jacob even
thou he carriers that same gene pool as the one</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> that does.
What is going on with our group? Last year it was</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> the two horn
should be culled, this year it is the leg markings. </I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Gee, that would
eliminate a lot of Jacobs. Is this the path we</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> are heading
into. Have we become that competitive or cynical,</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> which is
it? </I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>></I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>>
Peggy</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>> Ridgecroft
Farms</I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>></I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>></I></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: maroon"><I>>>
_______________________________________________</I></SPAN></DIV>
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